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8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm just pleased that you've finally been able to cut through that bureaucracy to get your jab! Well done on your persistence.

Cheers . Yes i got a letter last week about it. So all good.  

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7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm just pleased that you've finally been able to cut through that bureaucracy to get your jab! Well done on your persistence.


Indeed, that is massively impressive. Plus he managed to get himself quoted in some political propaganda as he managed to get his MSP to get him seem, when NHS said no.
 

@karenM48 I mean @JamesM48 you maybe take the matter for my old boy😂 I’ll even paying you for a result. (I’m not sure I’m fully joking) 
 

 

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18 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

It's just a meme that's doing the rounds at the moment and being lapped up by the anti-vaxxers (a subsection of the "We should just open everything up now, we don't want to make any sacrifices to save other people's lives, it's all a government conspiracy to oppress us all!" crowd), and that Chong cut and pasted. I wouldn't read anything into it, it's not meant to be anything other than a rallying cry to that crowd who are now quickly running out of things to get angry and anxious about.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I would like things to open up a bit quicker, especially after all the over 50's have had at least one dose :thumbsup:

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7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I'm just pleased that you've finally been able to cut through that bureaucracy to get your jab! Well done on your persistence.


Indeed, that is massively impressive. Plus he managed to get himself quoted in some political propaganda as he managed to get his MSP to get him seem, when NHS said no.
 

@karenM48 I mean @JamesM48 you maybe take the matter for my old boy😂 I’ll even paying you for a result. (I’m not sure I’m fully joking) 
 

 

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Scottish numbers: 8 April 2021

Summary

  • 364 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+75; down from 400 a week ago]
  • 26,582 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.6% of these were positive [+4,489; +0.1%]
  • 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-4]
  • 21 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
  • 174 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-18]
  • 2,608,831 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 500,376 have received their second dose [+14,899; +21,137]
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10 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:


Indeed, that is massively impressive. Plus he managed to get himself quoted in some political propaganda as he managed to get his MSP to get him seem, when NHS said no.
 

@karenM48 I mean @JamesM48 you maybe take the matter for my old boy😂 I’ll even paying you for a result. (I’m not sure I’m fully joking) 
 

 

I will take consultations...price negotiable...: how did you know Karen was my weekend name? :) 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 8 April 2021

Summary

  • 364 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+75; down from 400 a week ago]
  • 26,582 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.6% of these were positive [+4,489; +0.1%]
  • 1 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-4]
  • 21 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [=]
  • 174 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-18]
  • 2,608,831 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 500,376 have received their second dose [+14,899; +21,137]

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A new shop has opened here in Inverness with a “Corona virus” theory..........


Some people in here should pay a visit 😂

 

 

 

 

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The latest stats. Note that the historical comparison date has now been changed from 1 March to 1 April. The fairly significant drops in the 7-day vaccination figures are in part due to the "catch-up" elevated figures last Thursday, caused by the GP reporting issue, disappearing off the other end.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Scotland   42 43 -1   48 50 52 54 57 ... 59
Clackmannanshire 4 3 157 173 -16   202 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 233
West Lothian 4 3 81 90 -9   87 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 129
North Lanarkshire 4 3 75 74 +1   83 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 117
Glasgow City 4 3 71 72 -1   75 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 81
Renfrewshire 4 3 70 75 -5   85 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 103
East Ayrshire 4 3 56 61 -5   70 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 72
Fife 4 3 56 51 +5   50 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Stirling 4 3 52 51 +1   64 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 58
Falkirk 4 2 49 43 +6   60 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 90
East Lothian 4 3 47 46 +1   42 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 37
East Renfrewshire 4 3 42 39 +3   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 45
Dundee City 4 3 41 40 +1   51 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 64
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Perth & Kinross 4 3 37 34 +3   37 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 36
South Lanarkshire 4 3 37 41 -4   45 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 62
Angus 4 2 35 39 -4   43 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Moray 4 1 33 30 +3   33 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Edinburgh City 4 3 26 28 -2   32 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 50
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 26 28 -2   30 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 66
Aberdeenshire 4 3 25 23 +2   28 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 28
Aberdeen City 4 3 22 24 -2   29 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 44
North Ayrshire 4 3 20 24 -4   35 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 71
Highland Park 4/3 1 19 19 0   20 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Midlothian 4 3 18 28 -10   44 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 57
South Ayrshire 4 3 17 14 +3   17 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 19
Inverclyde 4 2 10 13 -3   15 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 9 8 +1   7 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   3 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 11
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 0 0   1 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 5
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 0 0   4 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Tests     19123 19033 +90   19898 20355 20509 21004 21570 ... 21722
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.0 0.0   2.1 2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 ... 2.4
Deaths     1 2 -1   3 4 4 4 5 ... 5
All Vaccinations     30974 36478 -5504   38108 40795 43838 45329 46806 ... 49063
1st Dose     16501 18695 -2194   20203 22208 24018 25297 27559 ... 29659
2nd Dose     14473 17783 -3310   17905 18587 19820 20032 19247 ... 19404
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     153 171 -18   175 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 194
ICU     21 21 0   21 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21
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3 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest stats. Note that the historical comparison date has now been changed from 1 March to 1 April. The fairly significant drops in the 7-day vaccination figures are in part due to the "catch-up" elevated figures last Thursday, caused by the GP reporting issue, disappearing off the other end.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Scotland   42 43 -1   48 50 52 54 57 ... 59
Clackmannanshire 4 3 157 173 -16   202 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 233
West Lothian 4 3 81 90 -9   87 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 129
North Lanarkshire 4 3 75 74 +1   83 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 117
Glasgow City 4 3 71 72 -1   75 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 81
Renfrewshire 4 3 70 75 -5   85 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 103
East Ayrshire 4 3 56 61 -5   70 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 72
Fife 4 3 56 51 +5   50 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Stirling 4 3 52 51 +1   64 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 58
Falkirk 4 2 49 43 +6   60 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 90
East Lothian 4 3 47 46 +1   42 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 37
East Renfrewshire 4 3 42 39 +3   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 45
Dundee City 4 3 41 40 +1   51 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 64
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Perth & Kinross 4 3 37 34 +3   37 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 36
South Lanarkshire 4 3 37 41 -4   45 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 62
Angus 4 2 35 39 -4   43 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Moray 4 1 33 30 +3   33 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Edinburgh City 4 3 26 28 -2   32 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 50
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 26 28 -2   30 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 66
Aberdeenshire 4 3 25 23 +2   28 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 28
Aberdeen City 4 3 22 24 -2   29 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 44
North Ayrshire 4 3 20 24 -4   35 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 71
Highland Park 4/3 1 19 19 0   20 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Midlothian 4 3 18 28 -10   44 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 57
South Ayrshire 4 3 17 14 +3   17 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 19
Inverclyde 4 2 10 13 -3   15 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 9 8 +1   7 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   3 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 11
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 0 0   1 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 5
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 0 0   4 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Tests     19123 19033 +90   19898 20355 20509 21004 21570 ... 21722
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.0 0.0   2.1 2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 ... 2.4
Deaths     1 2 -1   3 4 4 4 5 ... 5
All Vaccinations     30974 36478 -5504   38108 40795 43838 45329 46806 ... 49063
1st Dose     16501 18695 -2194   20203 22208 24018 25297 27559 ... 29659
2nd Dose     14473 17783 -3310   17905 18587 19820 20032 19247 ... 19404
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     153 171 -18   175 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 194
ICU     21 21 0   21 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21

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7 minutes ago, highlandjambo3 said:

A new shop has opened here in Inverness with a “Corona virus” theory..........


Some people in here should pay a visit 😂

 

 

 

 

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:) Ah, nostalgia. This is how the conspiracy theorists used to do it before the internet. Placards in the street, stickers in telephone boxes, or shop windows full of propaganda (very often using words cut out of newspapers). Times were much simpler then.

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2 hours ago, Chong said:

Imagine an untested vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it for a disease so deadly you have to be tested to know you have it. 

 

 

Real thing. Plenty people just died before they got it. Or seriously I'll. You can look that up.

 

See also Brazil.

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6 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

:) Ah, nostalgia. This is how the conspiracy theorists used to do it before the internet. Placards in the street, stickers in telephone boxes, or shop windows full of propaganda (very often using words cut out of newspapers). Times were much simpler then.

 

 

mmm sounds like you know too much about this

 

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45 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I would like things to open up a bit quicker, especially after all the over 50's have had at least one dose :thumbsup:

 

I've no doubt that we differ on how fast we want things to open up again, Nucky, but I definitely believe that there should be a constant "open things up some more - let things settle - open things up some more - etc.." cycle from here on in. The only thing I'm concerned about now I suppose is the opening up the borders aspect as regards bringing variants into the mix - I personally would prefer that this is done in a way in which there isn't such a huge volume of folk suddenly coming in from abroad that the testing for variants and the tracking of those sharing space with those found to have variants isn't compromised. I guess that I don't want all our hard work, deprivation and sacrifice to be wasted by a variant taking hold. Even that concern should go with time however if the vaccines prove to be fairly resistant to other variants.

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9 minutes ago, scott herbertson said:

mmm sounds like you know too much about this

 

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:D I have a few boxes of stickers still lying in the back of my cupboard if you want them.

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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

:D I have a few boxes of stickers still lying in the back of my cupboard if you want them.

 


I'll just check if I have my gieger counter and protective clothing  to hand....

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23 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest stats. Note that the historical comparison date has now been changed from 1 March to 1 April. The fairly significant drops in the 7-day vaccination figures are in part due to the "catch-up" elevated figures last Thursday, caused by the GP reporting issue, disappearing off the other end.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Scotland   42 43 -1   48 50 52 54 57 ... 59
Clackmannanshire 4 3 157 173 -16   202 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 233
West Lothian 4 3 81 90 -9   87 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 129
North Lanarkshire 4 3 75 74 +1   83 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 117
Glasgow City 4 3 71 72 -1   75 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 81
Renfrewshire 4 3 70 75 -5   85 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 103
East Ayrshire 4 3 56 61 -5   70 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 72
Fife 4 3 56 51 +5   50 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Stirling 4 3 52 51 +1   64 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 58
Falkirk 4 2 49 43 +6   60 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 90
East Lothian 4 3 47 46 +1   42 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 37
East Renfrewshire 4 3 42 39 +3   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 45
Dundee City 4 3 41 40 +1   51 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 64
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Perth & Kinross 4 3 37 34 +3   37 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 36
South Lanarkshire 4 3 37 41 -4   45 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 62
Angus 4 2 35 39 -4   43 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Moray 4 1 33 30 +3   33 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Edinburgh City 4 3 26 28 -2   32 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 50
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 26 28 -2   30 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 66
Aberdeenshire 4 3 25 23 +2   28 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 28
Aberdeen City 4 3 22 24 -2   29 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 44
North Ayrshire 4 3 20 24 -4   35 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 71
Highland Park 4/3 1 19 19 0   20 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Midlothian 4 3 18 28 -10   44 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 57
South Ayrshire 4 3 17 14 +3   17 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 19
Inverclyde 4 2 10 13 -3   15 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 9 8 +1   7 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   3 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 11
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 0 0   1 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 5
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 0 0   4 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Tests     19123 19033 +90   19898 20355 20509 21004 21570 ... 21722
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.0 0.0   2.1 2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 ... 2.4
Deaths     1 2 -1   3 4 4 4 5 ... 5
All Vaccinations     30974 36478 -5504   38108 40795 43838 45329 46806 ... 49063
1st Dose     16501 18695 -2194   20203 22208 24018 25297 27559 ... 29659
2nd Dose     14473 17783 -3310   17905 18587 19820 20032 19247 ... 19404
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     153 171 -18   175 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 194
ICU     21 21 0   21 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21

Its the first time in over a week ive looked at this chart. Edinburgh now at 26 ? Thats really good. Surely it would mean tier 1 if we opened up fully in May time?

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1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Its the first time in over a week ive looked at this chart. Edinburgh now at 26 ? Thats really good. Surely it would mean tier 1 if we opened up fully in May time?

 

There are a few different metrics but come the end of May we would be looking at tier 1. Though are we not all going into tier 3 as a country when we’re realised. 

 

@Footballfirst provides a forecast/projection every so often.

 

I personally not a fan of going back out into tiers.

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1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Its the first time in over a week ive looked at this chart. Edinburgh now at 26 ? Thats really good. Surely it would mean tier 1 if we opened up fully in May time?

 

It's excellent! There are other factors to be taken into consideration such as positivity rate when the final decision is made, and they may buffer things by putting everyone but the very lowest into Tier 3 for a short while beforehand (I have no idea whatsoever what they plan to do, but I assume caution will be shown) but things are looking very good indeed.

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6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Its the first time in over a week ive looked at this chart. Edinburgh now at 26 ? Thats really good. Surely it would mean tier 1 if we opened up fully in May time?

It would still be Level 2 according to WHO criteria.  You need to be below 20 for Level 1.

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3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

 

There are a few different metrics but come the end of May we would be looking at tier 1. Though are we not all going into tier 3 as a country when we’re realised. 

 

@Footballfirst provides a forecast/projection every so often.

 

I personally not a fan of going back out into tiers.

Yes i recall the other metrics regarding it. Not a fan of tiers either. Mainly due to geographical reasons as we are such a small country really. 

1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

It's excellent! There are other factors to be taken into consideration such as positivity rate when the final decision is made, and they may buffer things by putting everyone but the very lowest into Tier 3 for a short while beforehand (I have no idea whatsoever what they plan to do, but I assume caution will be shown) but things are looking very good indeed.

Yes I would think that maybe sorry hope that by end of April they would project what tiers places may be in Mid May? 

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2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes i recall the other metrics regarding it. Not a fan of tiers either. Mainly due to geographical reasons as we are such a small country really. 

Yes I would think that maybe sorry hope that by end of April they would project what tiers places may be in Mid May? 

 

I think May 17th is pencilled in for tier two, 1st of June tier one and the end of June tier 0. 

 

Might see things moved up a bit or changed though if the numbers continue the way they're going. Hopefully anyway!

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2 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

I think May 17th is pencilled in for tier two, 1st of June tier one and the end of June tier 0. 

 

Might see things moved up a bit or changed though if the numbers continue the way they're going. Hopefully anyway!

 

13 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

It would still be Level 2 according to WHO criteria.  You need to be below 20 for Level 1.

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Latest predictive levels as at 5 April  (the data from the last couple of days is incomplete so is not included).

 

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4 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

What untested vaccine?

 

 

 

You ignored me before when I asked how a 10 year clinical trial can be done 6 months

 

3 hours ago, Victorian said:

Imagine being such a total **** up that you need to lie about the vaccine being untested.  Imagine being that guy.  

 

It is a live trial. Again, how can a 10 year clinical trial possibly be complete in 6 months? Yeah, it can't. 

 

Not only putting blind faith in government, technology giants and pharmaceutical corporations but trying to put down anyone who questions the official agenda and narrative, full of hubris and ego. Imagine being that guy.

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11 minutes ago, Chong said:

 

You ignored me before when I asked how a 10 year clinical trial can be done 6 months

 

 

It is a live trial. Again, how can a 10 year clinical trial possibly be complete in 6 months? Yeah, it can't. 

 

Not only putting blind faith in government, technology giants and pharmaceutical corporations but trying to put down anyone who questions the official agenda and narrative, full of hubris and ego. Imagine being that guy.

 

Why does is need to be 10 years?

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5 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

Why does is need to be 10 years?

 

Truthfully it doesn't, average is 6 and a half years. To determine long term effects, vulnerable groups reaction, pregnancy, fertility, etc cant be done in 6 months 

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26 minutes ago, Chong said:

 

You ignored me before when I asked how a 10 year clinical trial can be done 6 months

 

 

It is a live trial. Again, how can a 10 year clinical trial possibly be complete in 6 months? Yeah, it can't. 

 

Not only putting blind faith in government, technology giants and pharmaceutical corporations but trying to put down anyone who questions the official agenda and narrative, full of hubris and ego. Imagine being that guy.

 

Because it was funded and manpower resourced to an unprecedented scale.  Agencies collaborating as they've never done.  Stages performed in parallel.  Scientific data submitted to regulators in parallel with ongoing trials.  A whole host of aspects accelerated and streamlined without compromising the core principles of rigorous evaluation of safety and efficacy.

 

Cheers.

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27 minutes ago, Chong said:

 

You ignored me before when I asked how a 10 year clinical trial can be done 6 months

 

 

It is a live trial. Again, how can a 10 year clinical trial possibly be complete in 6 months? Yeah, it can't. 

 

Not only putting blind faith in government, technology giants and pharmaceutical corporations but trying to put down anyone who questions the official agenda and narrative, full of hubris and ego. Imagine being that guy.

 

And while we're at it... you haven't offered a questioning approach.  You dumbly stated that the vaccine is untested,  which is abject ignorance.  You would have some degree of legitimacy if you had questioned the the finer details of how the vaccine was tested and approved so quickly.  But you didn't.  You just blankly said it is untested.  You are not owed any respect for such an idiotic view.

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8 hours ago, Lemongrab said:

Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but I can't be arsed looking back and I can't think of seeing anything anywhere else.  Would taking a course of low dose aspirin around the time of having the vaccine lessen the chance of getting a blood clot? GPs advocate it for patients who may be prone to a stroke, so why not for this?  Am I missing something obvious?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51176409

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4 hours ago, redjambo said:

The latest stats. Note that the historical comparison date has now been changed from 1 March to 1 April. The fairly significant drops in the 7-day vaccination figures are in part due to the "catch-up" elevated figures last Thursday, caused by the GP reporting issue, disappearing off the other end.

 

                           
    Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases                
Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Scotland   42 43 -1   48 50 52 54 57 ... 59
Clackmannanshire 4 3 157 173 -16   202 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 233
West Lothian 4 3 81 90 -9   87 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 129
North Lanarkshire 4 3 75 74 +1   83 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 117
Glasgow City 4 3 71 72 -1   75 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 81
Renfrewshire 4 3 70 75 -5   85 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 103
East Ayrshire 4 3 56 61 -5   70 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 72
Fife 4 3 56 51 +5   50 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Stirling 4 3 52 51 +1   64 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 58
Falkirk 4 2 49 43 +6   60 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 90
East Lothian 4 3 47 46 +1   42 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 37
East Renfrewshire 4 3 42 39 +3   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 45
Dundee City 4 3 41 40 +1   51 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 64
East Dunbartonshire 4 3 38 38 0   38 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Perth & Kinross 4 3 37 34 +3   37 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 36
South Lanarkshire 4 3 37 41 -4   45 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 62
Angus 4 2 35 39 -4   43 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 42
Moray 4 1 33 30 +3   33 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 56
Edinburgh City 4 3 26 28 -2   32 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 50
West Dunbartonshire 4 3 26 28 -2   30 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 66
Aberdeenshire 4 3 25 23 +2   28 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 28
Aberdeen City 4 3 22 24 -2   29 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 44
North Ayrshire 4 3 20 24 -4   35 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 71
Highland Park 4/3 1 19 19 0   20 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Midlothian 4 3 18 28 -10   44 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 57
South Ayrshire 4 3 17 14 +3   17 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 19
Inverclyde 4 2 10 13 -3   15 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21
Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 9 8 +1   7 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 7
Scottish Borders 4 1 3 3 0   3 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 11
Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 0 0 0   1 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 5
Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0   0 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 0
Shetland Islands 3 1 0 0 0   4 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 9
                           
                           
7-day averages     Today Yesterday     6 Apr 5 Apr 4 Apr 3 Apr 2 Apr ... 1 Apr
Tests     19123 19033 +90   19898 20355 20509 21004 21570 ... 21722
Positivity rate %     2.0 2.0 0.0   2.1 2.2 2.3 2.3 2.3 ... 2.4
Deaths     1 2 -1   3 4 4 4 5 ... 5
All Vaccinations     30974 36478 -5504   38108 40795 43838 45329 46806 ... 49063
1st Dose     16501 18695 -2194   20203 22208 24018 25297 27559 ... 29659
2nd Dose     14473 17783 -3310   17905 18587 19820 20032 19247 ... 19404
                           
Daily data                          
Hospital (non-ICU)     153 171 -18   175 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 194
ICU     21 21 0   21 N/A N/A N/A N/A ... 21

Looks like they have maybe stopped eating bat suppers for dinner in Clackmannanshire. 

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48 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Because it was funded and manpower resourced to an unprecedented scale.  Agencies collaborating as they've never done.  Stages performed in parallel.  Scientific data submitted to regulators in parallel with ongoing trials.  A whole host of aspects accelerated and streamlined without compromising the core principles of rigorous evaluation of safety and efficacy.

 

Cheers.

Cheers for what? You typing a steaming pile of shite, in no way have you answered my question. Checked 

 

44 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

And while we're at it... you haven't offered a questioning approach.  You dumbly stated that the vaccine is untested,  which is abject ignorance.  You would have some degree of legitimacy if you had questioned the the finer details of how the vaccine was tested and approved so quickly.  But you didn't.  You just blankly said it is untested.  You are not owed any respect for such an idiotic view.

 

Hubris and ego.

It is not ignorant to say it has not been through a clinical trial. It is currently a live trial as stated in the information on each vaccine makers websites. I look for no justification from you, talking as if I'm owed you anything.

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2 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Interesting claim regarding herd immunity, though I thought this would be much further away if achieveable at all:

 https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405



 

 

A bit of a notional concept imo.  I suppose it's a bit like the event horizon of a black hole.  Once crossed,  the virus can't,  in theory,  escape.  The trouble being that a theoretical new variant could essentially become as good as a different virus and the reservoir of immunity becomes redundant.

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1 hour ago, Gizmo said:

Interesting claim regarding herd immunity, though I thought this would be much further away if achieveable at all:

 https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405



 

It depends on the percentage of the population scientists define as achieving herd immunity.  ?  There seems to be differences about this. 

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1 hour ago, connlach said:

Looks like they have maybe stopped eating bat suppers for dinner in Clackmannanshire. 

 

Ran out of chips.

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2 hours ago, LMc said:

Thanks for that, and the comment from @JamesM48 which I've just read two.  I'm prescribed a daily aspirin anyway, so it doesn't make any difference to me.

 

James, I'm another who survived my first dose of the AZ at the Conference centre 5 weeks ago. ☺️

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9 minutes ago, Lemongrab said:

Thanks for that, and the comment from @JamesM48 which I've just read two.  I'm prescribed a daily aspirin anyway, so it doesn't make any difference to me.

 

James, I'm another who survived my first dose of the AZ at the Conference centre 5 weeks ago. ☺️

You can’t go wrong with an aspirin a day if you have heart issues but you need to take a tablet like omapprzole  to neutralise it so it doesn’t cause stomach bleeding . Not that I’m a doc but I do know that .😂 oh well another survivor of the EICC i should be optimistic but then I think that tends to mean the odds are shrinking. Lol 

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3 hours ago, Chong said:

 

You ignored me before when I asked how a 10 year clinical trial can be done 6 months

 

 

It is a live trial. Again, how can a 10 year clinical trial possibly be complete in 6 months? Yeah, it can't. 

 

Not only putting blind faith in government, technology giants and pharmaceutical corporations but trying to put down anyone who questions the official agenda and narrative, full of hubris and ego. Imagine being that guy.

Out of order Chong!

Dissenting views will not be tolerated.

You must believe the propaganda.

And don’t mention Alex Jones.

They’ll all be out now. The KB World Gov.com

You’re fired.

https://banned.video/watch?id=606e03a6a0f21c0bb3f37767

 

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4 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

Because it was funded and manpower resourced to an unprecedented scale.  Agencies collaborating as they've never done.  Stages performed in parallel.  Scientific data submitted to regulators in parallel with ongoing trials.  A whole host of aspects accelerated and streamlined without compromising the core principles of rigorous evaluation of safety and efficacy.

 

Cheers.

 

The Pfizer one seemed to be made very quickly though: 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-designed-in-hours-one-weekend-2020-12?op=1

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3 hours ago, Gizmo said:

Interesting claim regarding herd immunity, though I thought this would be much further away if achieveable at all:

 https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405



 

I don't see how.  Given the months and months when we were told that 1 in 80 etc had Covid at any point, the 60k "cases" every day, the fact this has been on the go for 14months, probably circulating for several months unknown before that, and given that 55 or 60% of adults have been vaccinated, I'm astounded we haven't reached herd immunity several times over.

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There has been a bit of a issue within the Muslim community. It’s Ramadan and many are fasting, there was concerns that receiving the vaccination would break the fast. 
 

Muslim leaders/scholars seem to be largely in agreement that getting the jab will not break the fast as it contains no nutrients, 

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9 hours ago, Captain Canada said:

 

The Oxford / AZ was designed very quickly as well.  But the trials for safety and efficacy were fully completed,  albeit highly accelerated.

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2 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

There has been a bit of a issue within the Muslim community. It’s Ramadan and many are fasting, there was concerns that receiving the vaccination would break the fast. 
 

Muslim leaders/scholars seem to be largely in agreement that getting the jab will not break the fast as it contains no nutrients, 

To accommodate this they could offer them the vaccine at night when they are allowed to eat. And doing that might help the uptake by bame people

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When traffic light system comes in Labour want everybody to quarantine in hotels when they come back from abroad and pay for it - hopefully bobble heid wont jump on that bandwagon up here and damage her "popularity" even more 

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13 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

To accommodate this they could offer them the vaccine at night when they are allowed to eat. And doing that might help the uptake by bame people


i think there some suggestion the govts are going to park some mobile vaccination centres outside certain mosques to try and facilitie.

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