The January Transfer Window Super Thread

[kingm616]

39 minutes ago, Alan_R said:

 

Would improve us. Hopefully comes off.

 

Just on your last point. And this isn't just me looking for reasons to critise, but only slight reservation is that we are going back to the same old shortlist... Doesn't seem a very stendel signing?

 

Happy to see what pans out, DS should be having final say either way.

I have no idea what the shortlists are. I was asked earlier on in the thread to ask if there was genuine interest from hearts previously which i was told there had been. Im pretty sure DS will have a final say on who signs or not. I cant imagine him taking the job otherwise

[johnthomas]

5 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Was just an attempt at answering your question. I’ve no problem with people recommending players to Daniel, as long as he gets the final say and it’s a reasonably wide pool of players he has to choose from. I’d add, I’m not saying we’ll definitely be able to get the first choice players he wants. 

Most managers sign a wide variety of players . 

Our choice of player is limited by availability and affordability . Sometimes think many on here have unrealistic expectations

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, johnthomas said:

Most managers sign a wide variety of players . 

Our choice of player is limited by availability and affordability . Sometimes think many on here have unrealistic expectations

I suppose you’ll always get that on fan forums. Most of the names mentioned seem possible so far.

[VALDOS']

52 minutes ago, Alan_R said:

 

Would improve us. Hopefully comes off.

 

Just on your last point. And this isn't just me looking for reasons to critise, but only slight reservation is that we are going back to the same old shortlist... Doesn't seem a very stendel signing?

 

Happy to see what pans out, DS should be having final say either way.

I think you have a fair point, it's possibly a shortlist provided for him, rather than by him. 

[jambonian]

An out-and-out penalty box player is just what we need. How many times is the ball in the box and no-one gets on the end of it? Liam Boyce seems to fit into that category, the John Robertson type so hope it comes off. If you have people like Washington, Walker, Uche, (hopefully) Naismith, Meshino and others around he'd get enough attempts at goal. Two strikers would be preferable but if he's the only one then it'll have to do. Hopefully we find a dominant centre-half also. I also hope Stendel has a few connections in Germany or elsewhere.

[busby1985]

Hearts have been speaking to Craig Gordon via Gary McKay, have been for a few weeks now. 

[AndyNic]

1 minute ago, busby1985 said:

Hearts have been speaking to Craig Gordon via Gary McKay, have been for a few weeks now. 

 

Back up / coaching role.

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

55 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Not a Northern Ireland international? A German? Barnsley youth player?

Somebody he is aware of from his time in, and a player that scored against his team, in League One?

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

4 minutes ago, AndyNic said:

 

Back up / coaching role.

Ideal.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

10 hours ago, ramrod said:

Sammon , McClean , Uche , Whighton , Vanachek 

Its a coup G it's a coup 👌🏻

Ah I see 

 

One I always hoped we would go for. Excellent strike rate for County

[busby1985]

4 minutes ago, AndyNic said:

 

Back up / coaching role.

Don’t know. Just know that McKay has been the go between, between both parties and have had lengthy discussions about Gordon going back. 

[DH1986]

10 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Hearts have been speaking to Craig Gordon via Gary McKay, have been for a few weeks now. 

Why would we use Gary MacKay ? 
 

Craig Gordon is with a specialised GK agency so surely we’d just go with them rather than a guy who writes a column in the local rag once a week.....and who rarely says a good thing about Hearts.

 

He’s not exactly the mediator I’d be choosing for this. I also don’t know why CL wouldn’t just speak to Gordon directly as he clearly has his phone number......

Edited January 2, 2020 by DH1986

[bazman]

Stendel likes a goalkeeper that can play with his feet. Was well publicised when Gordon was dropped at Celtic is that was one of the mains reasons

[busby1985]

Just now, DH1986 said:

Why would we use Gary MacKay ? 
 

Craig Gordon is with a specialised GK agency so surely we’d just go with them rather than a guy who writes a column in the local rag once a week.....and who rarely says a good thing about Hearts.

 

He’s not exactly the mediator I’d be choosing for this. I also don’t know why CL wouldn’t just speak to him directly as he clearly has his phone number......

Gordon wouldn’t answer the phone to CL and the fact that CL is no longer the manager is a huge part of the reason Gordon is interested in coming back. 
 

I am assuming Gordon has asked McKay to do it rather than us using McKay but I don’t know that detail. 
 

Third parties are used when people are sounding each other out. Ex team mates at other clubs, ex coaches, ex agents or football pals. Saves the clubs having to make a formal approach only to be told “no” straight away. Put some feelers out, sound each other out and then decide to take things more formal. Kyle Lafferty was sitting in his car at Murray Park, having never “spoke” to Rangers, before we had accepted their offer. He knew exactly what his contract was going to be. 

[busby1985]

10 minutes ago, bazman said:

Stendel likes a goalkeeper that can play with his feet. Was well publicised when Gordon was dropped at Celtic is that was one of the mains reasons

Yeah but like Stendel said yesterday, we need players for right now and right now we have 3 goal keepers who can’t stop the ball going in our net. Gordon would be a HUGE improvement on what we have currently. 

[DH1986]

3 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Gordon wouldn’t answer the phone to CL and the fact that CL is no longer the manager is a huge part of the reason Gordon is interested in coming back. 
 

I am assuming Gordon has asked McKay to do it rather than us using McKay but I don’t know that detail. 
 

Third parties are used when people are sounding each other out. Ex team mates at other clubs, ex coaches, ex agents or football pals. Saves the clubs having to make a formal approach only to be told “no” straight away. Put some feelers out, sound each other out and then decide to take things more formal. Kyle Lafferty was sitting in his car at Murray Park, having never “spoke” to Rangers, before we had accepted their offer. He knew exactly what his contract was going to be. 

Gordon has a beef with CL ?

[DH1986]

2 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Yeah but like Stendel said yesterday, we need players for right now and right now we have 3 goal keepers who can’t stop the ball going in our net. Gordon would be a HUGE improvement on what we have currently. 

As much as I’d be delighted to see CG back at Hearts I’d be utterly shocked if Lennon and Celtic do us any favours by freeing him.

 

 

[busby1985]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

Gordon has a beef with CL ?

No idea if it’s beef or just doesn’t like his style of football/coaching etc but what I was told in the summer window was that Gordon wouldn’t come to Hearts as he wouldn’t work with Levein. That, again, was from Gary McKay. 

[DH1986]

2 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

No idea if it’s beef or just doesn’t like his style of football/coaching etc but what I was told in the summer window was that Gordon wouldn’t come to Hearts as he wouldn’t work with Levein. That, again, was from Gary McKay. 

Gary MacKay.

 

Ok......

[busby1985]

2 minutes ago, DH1986 said:

Gary MacKay.

 

Ok......

Ok. 

[Gambo]

1 hour ago, vegas-voss said:

Stendel said he wanted a goalscorer in.Boyce is a goalscorer

Stendel would also have seen him last season in league 1.

[NlGHTMARE]

Not sure if you’re starting to see it yet or not, but with Stendels brand of football, it’s not all about scoring goals and passing attacking football, that’s just a by product of the main priority, working your socks off when the opposition have the ball, that’s what it’s all about pure and simple hard graft, some teams just can’t cope with it, so a typical Stendel signing is young, extremely fit, hard working, wanting to learn and improve, comfortable on the ball, mobile and 100% committed to the plan, as long as your transfer targets have them attributes it’ll not matter one jot to Daniel who scouts them, represents them, where they’re from, or who signs them, if they meet his criteria he’ll be able to get a song from them. 

Edited January 2, 2020 by NlGHTMARE

[Jamhammer]

4 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said:

Not sure if you’re starting to see it yet or not, but with Stendels brand of football, it’s not all about scoring goals and passing attacking football, that’s just a by product of the main priority, working your socks off when the opposition have the ball, that’s what it’s all about pure and simple hard graft, some teams just can’t cope with it, so a typical Stendel signing is young, extremely fit, hard working, wanting to learn and improve, and 100% committed to the plan, as long as your transfer targets have them attributes it’ll not matter one jot to Daniel who scouts them, represents them, where they’re from, or who signs them, if they meet his criteria he’ll be able to get a song from them. 

Certainly evidence of this Sunday. Not sure Gordon is the keeper we need, better though he is than what we have

[Lfhearts]

Don't see us being able to afford Boyce or Lindsay re fees involved, Craig Gordon using Gary Mackay as a go between that's funny as!

[jambonian]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

As much as I’d be delighted to see CG back at Hearts I’d be utterly shocked if Lennon and Celtic do us any favours by freeing him.

 

 

 

The goalkeepers are hardly doing themselves any favours when they get their chance so a new keeper could be vital in the rundown to the seasons end. Whether or not that is Gordon or if he would be good enough is debatable. Wouldn't mind him in goalkeeping coach in future perhaps, Gallagher doesn't seem to improve the ones there.

I remember a few weeks, back rumours going around Hearts would be signing two Celtic players, one being Gordon and the other (unbelievably) was Griffiths! If this had been/was true then my thinking wasn't so much on Gordon, he may well be looking to leave Celtic in the summer anyway but the intriguing one for me was Griffiths. A couple of reasons....one, why would Celtic or Neil Lennon ever want to help out Hearts!? Two, is it a ploy as he feels Celtic's championship aspirations are under threat and Griffiths would be able to play against Rangers and not Celtic? I brushed it off as impossible. Then just before Christmas, driving along from Balgreen/Murrayfield I was behind a white 4x4, a private number plate to me that had all the initials/numbers possible for Leigh Griffiths. It reminded me of that story, wondered if it was him but couldn't get alongside to check. Got directly behind him at Drumbrae roundabout and caught a glimpse in his rear-view and side mirrors, looked very much like him, wee tiny heid bobbin about. He went straight ahead towards Glasgow as I turned up Drumbrae. Did make me wonder though. If it definitely was him he could quite easily been here visiting friends/family, or he might well have been at Tynecastle having discussions.

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, Lfhearts said:

Don't see us being able to afford Boyce or Lindsay re fees involved, Craig Gordon using Gary Mackay as a go between that's funny as!

Why is it funny? Not saying you’re wrong but Gary was club ambassador during Gordon’s time and surely knows him so why not?

[ramrod]

7 minutes ago, NlGHTMARE said:

Not sure if you’re starting to see it yet or not, but with Stendels brand of football, it’s not all about scoring goals and passing attacking football, that’s just a by product of the main priority, working your socks off when the opposition have the ball, that’s what it’s all about pure and simple hard graft, some teams just can’t cope with it, so a typical Stendel signing is young, extremely fit, hard working, wanting to learn and improve, comfortable on the ball, mobile and 100% committed to the plan, as long as your transfer targets have them attributes it’ll not matter one jot to Daniel who scouts them, represents them, where they’re from, or who signs them, if they meet his criteria he’ll be able to get a song from them. 

Duno how many players he brought in at Barnsley but was he patient when perusing players or was it a case off I want you that's the offer if you don't want to come we move on to other targets. 

Our old  regime were in the habit of chasing players for ages trying to convince them to come which I never see as a good sign re the player . 

[Lfhearts]

Coz its funny.

[bazman]

31 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Yeah but like Stendel said yesterday, we need players for right now and right now we have 3 goal keepers who can’t stop the ball going in our net. Gordon would be a HUGE improvement on what we have currently. 

He will also get caught out on the ball or the ball will just end up getting hoofed

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, Lfhearts said:

Coz its funny.

I got that bit but it’s not what I asked. Seems plausible enough to me.

[busby1985]

5 minutes ago, bazman said:

He will also get caught out on the ball or the ball will just end up getting hoofed

Not disagreeing. I took from Stendels interview yesterday that he wants players in now that’ll dig us out this mess and we can start looking to build his proper vision of how he wants us to play in the summer. A solid shot stopper and someone who’ll keep clean sheets and organise the defence will be a god send. 

[davemclaren]

31 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Why is it funny? Not saying you’re wrong but Gary was club ambassador during Gordon’s time and surely knows him so why not?

Is Gary still an agent?

[GinRummy]

Just now, davemclaren said:

Is Gary still an agent?

Don’t know. 

[busby1985]

32 minutes ago, Lfhearts said:

Coz its funny.

It’s true and funny then haha. 

[Holyrood_Hearts]

I hope the CG rumours aren’t true. He surely doesn’t fit the style Stendel wants? For all Pereira’s faults, how kicking/passing out from the back is pretty decent. He should maybe consider a change of position!

[Russ1977]

2 minutes ago, Holyrood_Hearts said:

I hope the CG rumours aren’t true. He surely doesn’t fit the style Stendel wants? For all Pereira’s faults, how kicking/passing out from the back is pretty decent. He should maybe consider a change of position!

We need a keeper that keeps the ball out the net first and foremost. Gordon would be a great stop gap till the end of the season. Pereira is brilliant with the ball at his feet but he’s woeful at stopping the ball going in the net. Surely keeping the ball out the net is the main thing you want from a keeper. 

Edited January 2, 2020 by Russ1977

[Jambo 4 Ever]

10 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

A proven Scottish premiership goal scorer, but your not convinced because hes northern Irish?

 

Ok

I’ve been right about a number of things on here before and got stick for it at the time

 

im not convinced we should be just going for northern Irish players or stoke rejects because of macphees contacts 

[Hungry hippo]

3 minutes ago, Russ1977 said:

We need a keeper that keeps the ball out the net first and foremost. Gordon would be a great stop gap till the end of the season. Pereira is brilliant with the ball at his feet but he’s woeful at stopping the ball going in the net. Surely keeping the ball out the net is the main thing you want from a keeper. 

 

Totally agree. We need a goalkeeper that can do the basics asap and can worry about a ball playing GK longer term.

[JamboAl]

3 minutes ago, Natural Orders said:

I’ve been right about a number of things on here before and got stick for it at the time

 

im not convinced we should be just going for northern Irish players or stoke rejects because of macphees contacts 

What makes you think we're JUST going for NI players or Stoke rejects?

[bazman]

6 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said:

 

Totally agree. We need a goalkeeper that can do the basics asap and can worry about a ball playing GK longer term.

I'm on both sides of fence. If a player is only good at half of the style of play we want to play we shouldn't compromise just because it's CG. By the sound of it the ex-Barnsley player would be a better fit as he is more all rounded 

Edited January 2, 2020 by bazman

[The Internet]

Jih such a luminary, operating on a different plane to the rest of us. 

[Coco]

I think we desperately need 2 strikers and someone who can make something happen from midfield either through positive passing or late runs into the box.

 

Just the easiest sort of players to find in a January window ...

[Jambo 4 Ever]

12 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

What makes you think we're JUST going for NI players or Stoke rejects?

Who else have we been linked with properly so far?

[JamboAl]

Just now, Natural Orders said:

Who else have we been linked with properly so far?

You are obviously going by what has been reported and you are taking that as our only efforts in the transfer market.  Not everything we do is reported!.

[Prof]

1 minute ago, Natural Orders said:

Who else have we been linked with properly so far?

Being linked with a player simply means the players agent has fed the story to the press in the hope something will happen.

[letsmakesomenoise]

1 hour ago, jambonian said:

 

The goalkeepers are hardly doing themselves any favours when they get their chance so a new keeper could be vital in the rundown to the seasons end. Whether or not that is Gordon or if he would be good enough is debatable. Wouldn't mind him in goalkeeping coach in future perhaps, Gallagher doesn't seem to improve the ones there.

I remember a few weeks, back rumours going around Hearts would be signing two Celtic players, one being Gordon and the other (unbelievably) was Griffiths! If this had been/was true then my thinking wasn't so much on Gordon, he may well be looking to leave Celtic in the summer anyway but the intriguing one for me was Griffiths. A couple of reasons....one, why would Celtic or Neil Lennon ever want to help out Hearts!? Two, is it a ploy as he feels Celtic's championship aspirations are under threat and Griffiths would be able to play against Rangers and not Celtic? I brushed it off as impossible. Then just before Christmas, driving along from Balgreen/Murrayfield I was behind a white 4x4, a private number plate to me that had all the initials/numbers possible for Leigh Griffiths. It reminded me of that story, wondered if it was him but couldn't get alongside to check. Got directly behind him at Drumbrae roundabout and caught a glimpse in his rear-view and side mirrors, looked very much like him, wee tiny heid bobbin about. He went straight ahead towards Glasgow as I turned up Drumbrae. Did make me wonder though. If it definitely was him he could quite easily been here visiting friends/family, or he might well have been at Tynecastle having discussions.

....  on his way back from the San Giro, or so my Hibs acquaintances would have you believe.

[Ak47]

13 minutes ago, Natural Orders said:

Who else have we been linked with properly so far?

 

[sadj]

34 minutes ago, Natural Orders said:

I’ve been right about a number of things on here before and got stick for it at the time

 

im not convinced we should be just going for northern Irish players or stoke rejects because of macphees contacts 

Right about a number of things? Like what? 

[sadj]

19 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Jih such a luminary, operating on a different plane to the rest of us. 

😂 That why he sees dogs in the queues for tickets? 

Maybe Hearts should employ him? 

[NlGHTMARE]

1 hour ago, ramrod said:

Duno how many players he brought in at Barnsley but was he patient when perusing players or was it a case off I want you that's the offer if you don't want to come we move on to other targets. 

Our old  regime were in the habit of chasing players for ages trying to convince them to come which I never see as a good sign re the player . 

 

http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/the-recruitment-process-according-to-gg.275879/

 

this was posted on our forum a year ago, it pretty much explains our transfer policy.