busby1985 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: I'm not convinced by that at all. Cathro was hopelessly out of his depth. Yeah he was. At the beginning tho there was signs that the team had started to buy into what he was selling. After the Dundee collapse it was pretty clear he was out his depth and the players couldn’t be bothered with him. All my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshades Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: More than half the managers in top league are non-Scottish. Did any of them in the studio mention that? So in reality only Livingston .hibs,Hamilton and Aberdeen have a Scottish manager .Ross county have joint managers and could you imagine their response if we did that the steam would be coming out their ears Edited December 10, 2019 by Blackshades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said: Berra’s afraid stendel might introduce something called a football to training sessions. Seriously though he’s a good guy and been a good servant but it’s time to move on and he knows it. Wish him all the best but a club captain shouldn’t ever be sitting on his arse when meeting a new manager. Completely disrespectful. Sorry but for me he’s been in and met them all. Marketing team then come in and go...right lads we’re going to film you all meeting him for the first time to put out on social. Players reaction is more to do with the cringe factor of staging it than what they think of the new manager. That’s my take on it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: I try Geoff. I try mate edit, not David, Daniel It was the David I was reacting to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Sorry but for me he’s been in and met them all. Marketing team then come in and go...right lads we’re going to film you all meeting him for the first time to put out on social. Players reaction is more to do with the cringe factor of staging it than what they think of the new manager. That’s my take on it anyway. That’s what I hoped, but I must admit it didn’t make good viewing. Think he’s got an instant soft spot for Big Uche though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I don't think there has been any problem of them not 'getting stuck in'. Hearts have one of the worst disciplinary records in the league. A result of 'getting stuck in' That's not getting stuck in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, innerjambo said: Let's hope he separates the wheat from the chaff, and players like Berra are shown the door pronto. Players who are old, make far too many mistakes, and are very very slow, will have no place in this team. Well that will see Whelan away then as well..oh and Maclean as well Edited December 10, 2019 by CJGJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Sorry but for me he’s been in and met them all. Marketing team then come in and go...right lads we’re going to film you all meeting him for the first time to put out on social. Players reaction is more to do with the cringe factor of staging it than what they think of the new manager. That’s my take on it anyway. Mine too. Scottish players always seem very self-conscious on film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Very much so because if McCann had got the job JJ would have been SD and a coaching role for Locke as well. They were gutted when she terminated the interview. I’m glad we are trying something new and not an ex player. Stendel more intriguing and won’t just lie down to the old firm since new to it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Indeed. Sad to say I don’t think JJ was much better than them there, either. And you know what there will no doubt be players with the same attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Well that will see Whelan away then as well..oh and Maclean as well Maclean yes, I agree, but Whelan has more quality about him than the other two. Better passer of the ball, better positioning, better football brain, played at a higher standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, vegas-voss said: And you know what there will no doubt be players with the same attitude Indeed. A fair few supporters too, I’d suspect. Fingers crossed he gets off to a good start and buys himself some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: That’s what I hoped, but I must admit it didn’t make good viewing. Think he’s got an instant soft spot for Big Uche though 👍 Think we’ve yet to see the best of Uche with stendels style and uches work rate I think he’s still going to be a key player. Him and Washington up top with Naismith behind can close down defences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mdoug79 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Sorry but for me he’s been in and met them all. Marketing team then come in and go...right lads we’re going to film you all meeting him for the first time to put out on social. Players reaction is more to do with the cringe factor of staging it than what they think of the new manager. That’s my take on it anyway. I hope your right coZ if not that is shocking!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Maclean yes, I agree, but Whelan has more quality about him than the other two. Better passer of the ball, better positioning, better football brain, played at a higher standard. He's old, he's very slow and that was what you stated would see Berra out as well as others I am not a fan on what we have seen so far and he needs to get his finger out for all I am seeing is a player looking to keep fit for the Republic in case they make the Euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just watched it. I thought Budge came across ok enough to be fair and DS seems a VERY likeable guy. I think the players will really take to him. Kinda all pointless though hearing that the losing common denominators are still very much about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, CJGJ said: He's old, he's very slow and that was what you stated would see Berra out as well as others I am not a fan on what we have seen so far and he needs to get his finger out for all I am seeing is a player looking to keep fit for the Republic in case they make the Euros Then I'll rephrase for arguments sake. Berra is finished, error prone, and becoming a bit of a liability.............Whelan imo, still has a couple of seasons in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Just watched it. I thought Budge came across ok enough to be fair and DS seems a VERY likeable guy. I think the players will really take to him. Kinda all pointless though hearing that the losing common denominators are still very much about. Still need to clear out the talentless dead wood. We might have to wait until the end of the season though, unless they've all brainwashed Budge. I exclude Donald Park and Andy Kirk from that, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: To the words of 'last Christmas' 'This year, to save me from tears, I'll spend it with David Stendel' that should catch on like a Sydney bushfire no probs Gorgie pubs will have this on repeat after the boxing day game if all goes well n all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: It's fine lines. I don't think Cathro had it in him to command a dressing room, but I do wonder if we hadn't lost Paterson in particular that things might have gone differently for him and his team, just as if we hadn't lost Naismith when we did it might have gone differently for Levein. In both cases it was like losing 2 or 3 players, and seriously reducing our ability to attack. Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 BBC Glasgow are fast becoming a total disgrace to Scottish football (and they already are traitors to Scotland). I heard their sports news bulletin earlier, at 5pm I think, and – once again – their sumary of Daniel Stendel was loaded with prejudice as they detailed his final 10 game record at Barnsley without any mention of his achievements the previous season. Any impartial reporting would have reported both his most recent record and his outstanding achievements last season, but they didn't. They don't want Scotland to hear positive things about Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Who cares what the guys on sportsound have to say!! Had we appointed a Scottish manager they would have still found a way to make it negative. I'm delighted we've got it done at last and I'm cautiously optimistic. He's got a mammoth task on his hands and I really hope the players will buy in to his philosophy and style. All the same, absolutely buzzing for Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, CJGJ said: Well that will see Whelan away then as well..oh and Maclean as well Disagree re Whelan. Under Stendels way of playing, he's the ideal kind of player to sit in front of the back two imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Then I'll rephrase for arguments sake. Berra is finished, error prone, and becoming a bit of a liability.............Whelan imo, still has a couple of seasons in him. Berra may be finished in your mind but we'll miss his aerial ability and probably lose goals if he's not adequately replaced. Halkett lacks aerial command, Souttar is injured and Dikamona hasn't overly impressed so far. DS probably won't be able to bring in too many players in January and I'll be surprised if he doesn't see his priorities as being on the wing and in MF. If he rectifies/improves our shortcomings further forward, it is likely there will be less pressure on our defence anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Daniel talks like Klopp same kind of personality I think he is going to excel here ..... possibly take a bit of time but this is going to work 👍 well done AB getting this man loving the approach we want to try something different. Anne budge well done 👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 IMO if the players try and continue this below par situ we won’t be on the managers case, they have had the benefit of the doubt for far too long now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, maroonlegions said: uber alles (correctly written in German "ueber alles") has nothing to do with the Nazis, but was a line of a poem written in 1841 which was used for the German National Anthem. It does not translate as "above all" (that would be "ueber allen") but rather "more than anything else", as in "ich liebe Dich ueber alles in der Welt" (I love you more than anything else in the world). A misleading translation was purposely chosen by the Allies during the second world war for propaganda purposes. Or am i missing something here. I think uber is perfectly good German provided it has the umlaut above the "U" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The rat catcher Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: BBC Glasgow are fast becoming a total disgrace to Scottish football (and they already are traitors to Scotland). I heard their sports news bulletin earlier, at 5pm I think, and – once again – their sumary of Daniel Stendel was loaded with prejudice as they detailed his final 10 game record at Barnsley without any mention of his achievements the previous season. Any impartial reporting would have reported both his most recent record and his outstanding achievements last season, but they didn't. They don't want Scotland to hear positive things about Hearts. Yes - Thats why I won't watch that hideous BBC1 glasgow ned channel or listen to their BBC Glasgow Sportspish radio. Edited December 10, 2019 by The rat catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, NB GIN said: Daniel talks like Klopp same kind of personality I think he is going to excel here ..... possibly take a bit of time but this is going to work 👍 well done AB getting this man loving the approach we want to try something different. Anne budge well done 👏👏👏 Yeah, never underestimate how much extra a likeable, confident, enthusiastic manager can get from players and fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The players have to want to play for the club and new manager Stendel. If the players still adopt negative football hope Stendel gets rid of the negative players a brings in players who want to play his style of football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Berra may be finished in your mind but we'll miss his aerial ability and probably lose goals if he's not adequately replaced. Halkett lacks aerial command, Souttar is injured and Dikamona hasn't overly impressed so far. DS probably won't be able to bring in too many players in January and I'll be surprised if he doesn't see his priorities as being on the wing and in MF. If he rectifies/improves our shortcomings further forward, it is likely there will be less pressure on our defence anyway. Stendel will suss out Berra in 5 minutes, only a loser with very low expectations would keep a player as slow as Berra at the heart of our defence. Hallett he can work on and improve, and my guess is he'll bring in someone to replace Berra as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 One of the headlines on BBC News at 10. Establishment club Heart of Midlothian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, innerjambo said: Stendel will suss out Berra in 5 minutes, only a loser with very low expectations would keep a player as slow as Berra at the heart of our defence. Hallett he can work on and improve, and my guess is he'll bring in someone to replace Berra as soon as possible. You seem to have a real down on Berra. He has been playing below par but IMO there is no one to match him in the air. My guess is that DS will suss out our lack of wing power and lack of MF pace first and if he does that, Berra will be under much less pressure. I don't think he (DS) will have the resources to do much in January so he will want to spend what pennies he is given to best effect. A loan keeper wouldn't be far down anyone's list of priorities either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Stendel will suss out Berra in 5 minutes, only a loser with very low expectations would keep a player as slow as Berra at the heart of our defence. Hallett he can work on and improve, and my guess is he'll bring in someone to replace Berra as soon as possible. Forget it. Edited December 10, 2019 by Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, JamboAl said: You seem to have a real down on Berra. He has been playing below par but IMO there is no one to match him in the air. My guess is that DS will suss out our lack of wing power and lack of MF pace first and if he does that, Berra will be under much less pressure. I don't think he (DS) will have the resources to do much in January so he will want to spend what pennies he is given to best effect. A loan keeper wouldn't be far down anyone's list of priorities either. as I understand it geggenpress doesn’t base its formation on wingers - it’s a narrow formation which relies upon width from attacking full backs I am sure there are variations but that’s as I understand the basics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 We played some great football under Cathro but when the going got tough he wasn't a great man manager and because of that the players stopped playing for him. The guy is obviously good at what he does though and is probably involved in the tactics side of things in someway at Wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, JamboAl said: You seem to have a real down on Berra. He has been playing below par but IMO there is no one to match him in the air. My guess is that DS will suss out our lack of wing power and lack of MF pace first and if he does that, Berra will be under much less pressure. I don't think he (DS) will have the resources to do much in January so he will want to spend what pennies he is given to best effect. A loan keeper wouldn't be far down anyone's list of priorities either. His aerial play as of late has been hopeless as well. headers spinning out for throw ins under no pressure or just completely mis-reading the ball. Think it's a confidence issue more than anything though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: as I understand it geggenpress doesn’t base its formation on wingers - it’s a narrow formation which relies upon width from attacking full backs I am sure there are variations but that’s as I understand the basics. I think we're all getting a bit hung up re geggenpress. It might be suitable against the likes of Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen and maybe even Killie and Hibs if we can identify enough players capable of carrying it out. I'm less sure it will work quite so well against teams who sit in. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77Mackay77 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just throwing in my tuppence worth. There are going to be a few players that under the new regime are going to surprise some of the people on here. They’re not all sh@t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, JamboAl said: I think we're all getting a bit hung up re geggenpress. It might be suitable against the likes of Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen and maybe even Killie and Hibs if we can identify enough players capable of carrying it out. I'm less sure it will work quite so well against teams who sit in. Time will tell. I know what you mean but my feeling is if it can work in League One it can work well in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, The rat catcher said: Yes - Thats why I won't watch that hideous BBC1 glasgow ned channel or listen to their BBC Glasgow Sportspish radio. You talking about the BBC Scotland channel? I've watched some great things on that recently. Three brilliant documentaries, one about the Timex strike in Dundee, one about the fight for Skye bridge, and Nae Pasaran. And not a weegie ned in site. Anyway, we're goin off topic here. But its a decent station, just wanted to say that 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, Morgan said: Forget it. I just did the same but never posted it 😂 9 minutes ago, 77Mackay77 said: Just throwing in my tuppence worth. There are going to be a few players that under the new regime are going to surprise some of the people on here. They’re not all sh@t. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, JamboAl said: I think uber is perfectly good German provided it has the umlaut above the "U" I know my missus and her mate don't even bother with the umlaut over here. They just use U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, 77Mackay77 said: Just throwing in my tuppence worth. There are going to be a few players that under the new regime are going to surprise some of the people on here. They’re not all sh@t. I hope so, otherwise Herr Stendel will be commencing his rebuild from the Championship next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6 Inc Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 hours ago, graygo said: Your first point was actually the other way round, he even turned to Ann and apologised for it. He still knows we are the big team though, Watch it again, he said he had heard of Hearts but when Heckingbottom moved to Hibs was the first time he had heard of Hibs. He apologised then said "actually not sorry". Slightly broken English but he knew us before his move to England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Bluesy1874 said: Hopefully it turns out to be a more enjoyable experience for them than we thought initially!. They'll love the gegenpress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Hearts_fan said: BBC Glasgow are fast becoming a total disgrace to Scottish football (and they already are traitors to Scotland). I heard their sports news bulletin earlier, at 5pm I think, and – once again – their sumary of Daniel Stendel was loaded with prejudice as they detailed his final 10 game record at Barnsley without any mention of his achievements the previous season. Any impartial reporting would have reported both his most recent record and his outstanding achievements last season, but they didn't. They don't want Scotland to hear positive things about Hearts. Advert for sports journalist in the Herald A leading TV company based in Glasgow is looking for a sports journalist to join their exciting team amongst the attributes we expect the candidate to display: Your school record, which must be non kefflick, will be mediocre at best ideally you will have had a trial at Rangers Despite claiming you are Protestant, you will never have actually been to church Your knowledge of football players will be limited to Glasgow and the Old Firm Although you will be a Rangers diehard, you will pretend to support Airdrie Preference will be given to those with either a drink or gambling problem Membership of the Ludge is preferred but will be fast tracked if necessary Criminal convictions for rioting at any Rangers game would advantageous No kefflicks need apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: He said that the Aberdeen forum is pure bob kack and you're not famous anymore 👍😉 I agree that the Aberdeen forums are pretty poor, but at least we know what famous is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 hours ago, E6 Inc said: Watch it again, he said he had heard of Hearts but when Heckingbottom moved to Hibs was the first time he had heard of Hibs. He apologised then said "actually not sorry". Slightly broken English but he knew us before his move to England. Even Herr Stendel seems confused. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5052365/damiel-stendel-sorry-never-heard-hearts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: I agree that the Aberdeen forums are pretty poor, but at least we know what famous is Yes, if you are over 40 years old you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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