glynnlondon Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The press and mainstream media are too frightened to address the elephant in the room for fear of rocking the (mainly) west coast boat. They've had their eyes shut and fingers in their ears for decades in the vain hope that it will go away. It won't and never will , and an independent Scotland won't be solving it either. All Jock Tamsons bairns my arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, luckydug said: It's a matter of personal choice surely. Can't be bothered with the Poppy facists that appear at this time of year. Personally speaking I am proud to buy and wear my poppy but that's my choice. The two world wars are now becoming history soon everyone who sacrificed will be dead. Some people view the poppy as a political stunt. Sadly, it is political. Only today, Labour and the Tories announced plans to aid veterans. If there wasn’t an election, I’d doubt if anything would have been said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Boab said: Sadly, it is political. Only today, Labour and the Tories announced plans to aid veterans. If there wasn’t an election, I’d doubt if anything would have been said. Agree entirely. Gets on my nerves the way forces and other charities try and guilt trip ordinary people with TV ads. When their pleas would be unnecessary if the government ( of whatever shade) would face up to their responsibilities. It's the politicians who send forces off to war it is they who should foot the bill not the honest Joe who is struggling anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Italian Lambretta said: And to think just the other day loads of so called Hearts fans on this forum where defending them over the Rome Trouble Hearts fans for you though I.L. Very selective in their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, dannymack said: Hearts fans for you though I.L. Very selective in their opinions. I'd prefer to call it open minded. Unlike some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The last truth is the 'get out of jail card' for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, dannymack said: The last truth is the 'get out of jail card' for some. I believe that that quite succinctly answers most if not all the questions people may have about the Poppy at this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, luckydug said: I'd prefer to call it open minded. Unlike some. Selective or open minded regardless, the Celtic institution is a horrible and disgusting one, they have inflicted misery over 'our' football club for many years with very little returned in the name of revenge, the innocent fans who adopt the three monkeys stance over many issues that hang over 'their' great club are just as bad, the powerful club they claim to be cannot handle a group that continually bring the name of their wonderful club into disrepute. For me all the more reason to despise every single ounce that relates itself to them. For the record they don't live rent free in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 They spend the last 2 weeks railing against Fascist behavior by Lazio fans... then sing songs about ''**** your poppy", a symbol of respect for those who defeated Fascism. They just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: I believe that that quite succinctly answers most if not all the questions people may have about the Poppy at this time of year. There will always be an ' ah but ' 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, busby1985 said: Show me a video of Celtic Park booing the song..... This isn't Alexa... go look yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Crete said: Celtic fans are attention seekers always trying to be controversial it’s time for us all to ignore this waste of space scum that they are. Ashamed of nothing offended by everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: This isn't Alexa... go look yourself. That made me cackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, dannymack said: The last truth is the 'get out of jail card' for some. Probably the best post on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: This isn't Alexa... go look yourself. Hahaha soz alexa. My point was more in jest. In this day and age of people videoing everything, am surprised the papers haven’t picked up on this said booooooooo’ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 E ery year. Rinse and repeat. Horrible *******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Noticed a few Hibs players didn't have a poppy on their shirts. Haven't seen the Celtic shirts so can't comment. Watched West From and Stoke last week. Only one player without a poppy shirt. No prizes for guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Laff Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I’ve no idea why people choose to get wound up about it anymore. It’s old news that they’re scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Last Laff said: I’ve no idea why people choose to get wound up about it anymore. It’s old news that they’re scum. I had never heard them do this before which is why I started the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Celtic this, Rangers that, get everything relating to these two of the Jambos Kickback forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 hours ago, JJ93 said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4938654/celtic-green-brigade-boycott-silence-remembrance-poppy-chant/ The best fans in the world? A British football team? Let us also never forget that Ireland remained ‘neutral’ in the War. Unfathomable. This is a shocking example of how tribal, robotic and deeply irrational football ‘attendees’ can be. Sickening. The term British football team applies to two specific Olympic teams, go google it. As for Celtic ever being described as this its a joke, foreign owners/players/managers/fans, just like most of the teams in the EPL. They are a disgrace though, thousands of Irish died in WWI&II including my grandad and a bit of respect for them at least wouldn’t go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, farin said: Bang on the money 100% there but I’d drop the “wonderful “. . 😆 I was being sarcastic using those words of description... Through gritted teeth 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, dannymack said: The last truth is the 'get out of jail card' for some. Can we question how much money General Haig and his family have made in the last 100 years from jobs etc? Does everyone know that you buy the tins and poppies from them for a certain amount and keep the money you collect? Does everyone know that military charities have £327m in the bank doing nothing to help the people they allegedly support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Can we question how much money General Haig and his family have made in the last 100 years from jobs etc? Does everyone know that you buy the tins and poppies from them for a certain amount and keep the money you collect? Does everyone know that military charities have £327m in the bank doing nothing to help the people they allegedly support? I thought Haig family had nothing to do with poppies anymore? I know my old grandad detested the Poppy appeal when it was the Earl Haig fund but thought that had stopped years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kxf51 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: I believe that that quite succinctly answers most if not all the questions people may have about the Poppy at this time of year. Not for celtic fans, ( don't know if it's the club or just the green brigade ) apparently they have a problem with mith no:2, if the poppy was worn only to remember ww1 and ww2 they would happily wear one but because it now includes all conflicts, including the Irish troubles they won't wear one. Odd bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Rousset1 said: I like Celtic fans. Their obvious presence gives me something to laugh at when I'm out and about in Glasgow. Don’t forget when at the airport. Never fail to see a FKW at either Edinburgh or Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Every year the same thing happens and the same faux outrage. Yup. Same old same old. They'll never change and we shouldn't expect them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Can we question how much money General Haig and his family have made in the last 100 years from jobs etc? Does everyone know that you buy the tins and poppies from them for a certain amount and keep the money you collect? Does everyone know that military charities have £327m in the bank doing nothing to help the people they allegedly support? Did you not read what you quoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Hearts played a fund raising match for the Scottish National War Memorial in May, 1920. Celtic were the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, TheBigO said: Away from the actual subject, all the "hoops" chat in articles about them bugs me. Even in a negative story, its all pally vernacular. I agree. The same publication regularly refers to Hearts as Jambos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, JJ93 said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4938654/celtic-green-brigade-boycott-silence-remembrance-poppy-chant/ The best fans in the world? A British football team? Let us also never forget that Ireland remained ‘neutral’ in the War. Unfathomable. This is a shocking example of how tribal, robotic and deeply irrational football ‘attendees’ can be. Sickening. No great lover of the Irish... but firstly there were two wars fought in the 20th century and in the first of those wars a lot of very brave Irishmen gave their lives. The second some 800 odd soldiers from Ireland broke their country's law and fought against Hitler's regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngleParkMenace Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Can we question how much money General Haig and his family have made in the last 100 years from jobs etc? Does everyone know that you buy the tins and poppies from them for a certain amount and keep the money you collect? Does everyone know that military charities have £327m in the bank doing nothing to help the people they allegedly support? Is that a fact? I’ve seen the same people selling poppies for years. I thought they were just volunteering but if they’ve bought the box and keep the money in the tin that’s shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, AngleParkMenace said: Is that a fact? I’ve seen the same people selling poppies for years. I thought they were just volunteering but if they’ve bought the box and keep the money in the tin that’s shocking Indeed it is, I checked all the boxes I could in the Gorgie area ( I know a lot of the workers) to check. They don’t put the names on them now but it’s still them that collect it . It is disgusting and I’ve told as many folk as I can without getting myself in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 hours ago, JJ93 said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4938654/celtic-green-brigade-boycott-silence-remembrance-poppy-chant/ The best fans in the world? A British football team? Let us also never forget that Ireland remained ‘neutral’ in the War. Unfathomable. This is a shocking example of how tribal, robotic and deeply irrational football ‘attendees’ can be. Sickening. No great lover of the Irish... but firstly there were two wars fought in the 20th century and in the first of those wars a lot of very brave Irishmen gave their lives. The second of those wars saw some 800 odd soldiers from Ireland, out of the many thousands who joined the British army brake and their country's law's, die fighting against Hitler's regime. So don't knock the individual Irishman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, gorgie rd eh11 said: Did you not read what you quoted? Yeah some of it was rhetorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Indeed it is, I checked all the boxes I could in the Gorgie area ( I know a lot of the workers) to check. They don’t put the names on them now but it’s still them that collect it . It is disgusting and I’ve told as many folk as I can without getting myself in trouble. ****ing hell!! Absolutely everything is a total piss take these days it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Indeed it is, I checked all the boxes I could in the Gorgie area ( I know a lot of the workers) to check. They don’t put the names on them now but it’s still them that collect it . It is disgusting and I’ve told as many folk as I can without getting myself in trouble. If what you're posting here is the truth, why would you get into trouble? And trouble from whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, XB52 said: I thought Haig family had nothing to do with poppies anymore? I know my old grandad detested the Poppy appeal when it was the Earl Haig fund but thought that had stopped years ago I think if you try to find out online where the offices are it’s different from the boxes, I think the family is still involved but haven’t checked register house where it might confirm it or not. Unfortunately most charities have issues that put people off, Save the Children have had a few controversies itself over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Maple Leaf said: If what you're posting here is the truth, why would you get into trouble? And trouble from whom? Will DM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The glorious irony of the Green Brigade's initials... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, 4marsbars said: I deplore the twisted, nonsensical antics of the Green Brigade. But as the poem about Glasgow sectarianism says: 'deplore what is to be deplored and then find out the rest' I noticed in the article that the Green Brigade were booed by Celtic fans from all the other sections of the ground. Good. We have idiots who sing loyalist songs that have no relevance whatsoever to HMFC. But we would never claim that all Hearts fans, or HMFC in general, are loyalists (whatever that means; after more than half a century going to Tynecastle I still have no idea). Let's not pretend that the Green Brigade represent Celtic. To be clear, Celtic fans died fighting alongside our parents and grandparents in all kinds of conflicts, or as civilians (e.g. in the Clydebank blitz) and we will remember them, including today at 11.00, just as the vast majority of those at Parkhead remembered yesterday. Great post. Someone with common sense and a bit of perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Will DM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Grappelli Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 8 hours ago, phoenix said: The offensive banners, flares and poppy debacle I get. But what's wrong with going to mass at the Vatican 😮 I was wondering that myself. Some of the posts on this thread are embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I think if you try to find out online where the offices are it’s different from the boxes, I think the family is still involved but haven’t checked register house where it might confirm it or not. Unfortunately most charities have issues that put people off, Save the Children have had a few controversies itself over the years. Poppy Scotland is 'owned' by The British Legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 10 hours ago, 4marsbars said: I deplore the twisted, nonsensical antics of the Green Brigade. But as the poem about Glasgow sectarianism says: 'deplore what is to be deplored and then find out the rest' I noticed in the article that the Green Brigade were booed by Celtic fans from all the other sections of the ground. Good. We have idiots who sing loyalist songs that have no relevance whatsoever to HMFC. But we would never claim that all Hearts fans, or HMFC in general, are loyalists (whatever that means; after more than half a century going to Tynecastle I still have no idea). Let's not pretend that the Green Brigade represent Celtic. To be clear, Celtic fans died fighting alongside our parents and grandparents in all kinds of conflicts, or as civilians (e.g. in the Clydebank blitz) and we will remember them, including today at 11.00, just as the vast majority of those at Parkhead remembered yesterday. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Great post. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, AngleParkMenace said: Is that a fact? I’ve seen the same people selling poppies for years. I thought they were just volunteering but if they’ve bought the box and keep the money in the tin that’s shocking I can assure you when my mum sold poppies she never kept a penny. All money went to the Earl Haig fund(as it was called). I find it absolutely unbelievable that people collecting keep the money, in fact I know for a fact they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 One difference between our fans and theirs, is that they tend to close ranks when there is any negative stories about their club’s supporters. They recognise the power of good PR. We shout out bigots down and speak out against them more. I’ll leave you all to draw your own conclusions about whether that’s a good or bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: Indeed it is, I checked all the boxes I could in the Gorgie area ( I know a lot of the workers) to check. They don’t put the names on them now but it’s still them that collect it . It is disgusting and I’ve told as many folk as I can without getting myself in trouble. It's worrying that people will believe the absolute garbage you are spouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, XB52 said: I can assure you when my mum sold poppies she never kept a penny. All money went to the Earl Haig fund(as it was called). I find it absolutely unbelievable that people collecting keep the money, in fact I know for a fact they don't I think it will be extremely sad if it is a myth, and because it is getting publicly perpetuated, it causes a drop in collections. Hope folk are being very clear about what they are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts