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Finished 3-2 to LTHV at Linlithgow.  Ex Hearts youngster Brodie Strang also came on as a sub for Linlithgow in the 2nd half.

 

Other FT scores 

Blackburn 0-1 Crossgates

Hill of Beath 0 - 3 Jeanfield

Easthouses 5-0 Lochgelly

Sauchie 5-0 Inverkeithing

 

FTs in the Lowland League

Bo'ness 4-4 BSC

East Stirling 2-3 Cumbernauld

 

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2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Result of the day in an East of Scotland derby!

 

Thornton Hibs 1-5 Kennoway Star Hearts


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Callum Elliot and his brother have appeared as second half subs for Tranent away to Ardeer Thistle.Tranent 8-0 up at ht

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This week's results from the latest round of LL games.

 

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The League table is starting to take on a familiar look, with the cream coming to the top and the also rans already jockeying to avoid the relegation trapdoor.

 

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And the EOS Premier league after this week's games.

 

  Club P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Tranent Juniors 10 7 3 0 33 14 19 24
2 Jeanfield Swifts 8 6 2 0 24 6 18 20
3 Musselburgh Athletic 9 6 1 2 26 20 6 19
4 Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale 9 6 0 3 19 17 2 18
5 Broxburn Athletic 8 5 0 3 18 14 4 15
6 Penicuik Athletic 6 4 1 1 15 5 10 13
7 Tynecastle 9 4 1 4 25 17 8 13
8 Linlithgow Rose 8 3 4 1 15 10 5 13
9 Dundonald Bluebell 7 4 1 2 11 8 3 13
10 Newtongrange Star 10 4 1 5 20 18 2 13
11 Hill of Beath Hawthorn 9 4 0 5 14 18 -4 12
12 Camelon Juniors 7 3 2 2 15 10 5 11
13 Sauchie Juniors 9 2 3 4 19 17 2 9
14 Crossgates Primrose 8 1 4 3 8 15 -7 7
15 Dunbar United 10 2 1 7 10 26 -16 7
16 Blackburn United 9 1 0 8 11 30 -19 3
17 Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts 7 1 0 6 5 24 -19 3
18 Whitehill Welfare 7 0 0 7 7 26 -19 0
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Meanwhile in leagues and competitions where players appear motivated to give their best .......

 

Two games in the 1st Preliminary Round of the Scottish Cup today.

 

Penicuik 2-3 (aet) Musselburgh - both teams ended up with 10 men.

LTHV 2-1 (aet) St Cuthbert Wanderers.

 

Muzzy's reward for the win is the not too short trip to Wick. 

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18 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Some notable results today in the Lowland League  which is proving to be ultra competitive.

 

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Oooft!

Interesting. Do you know anything about this free pass to withdraw in December from the LL?

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15 minutes ago, RobboM said:

Oooft!

Interesting. Do you know anything about this free pass to withdraw in December from the LL?

It was mooted before the league started in October, but I haven't seen anything formalised since then.

 

I can understand why they would want to give clubs that guarantee in the absence of fans, but I'm unsure whether or not any clubs would take up the option, now that most teams have played 10 or more games.

 

The cynic in me would say that it would be in the interests of Vale of Leithen, Edinburgh Uni and Dalbeattie to take up the option, thus avoiding any risk of relegation. 

 

I think the the LL rules were amended to allow them to run with a league of 18.  That could be an issue for promotion from tier 6, particularly if a team from the HL wins the SPFL play-off and a team is demoted to the LL, e.g. Albion Rovers

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Other wins for EOS sides against higher ranked teams

 

BSC 2-3 Haddingon

Deveronvale 1-4 Camelon

Edinburgh University 1-2 Tranent

Blackburn 1-1 Civil Service Strollers (playing ET)

LTHV 3-3 Lossiemouth (playing ET)

 

In other cup games

Spartans 2-1 East Kilbride

Nitten 0-4 Rothes

Tynecastle 2-3 Cumbernauld Colts

Dunipace 1-3 Berwick Rangers

Dundonald 4-2 Easthouses

Hill of Beath 2-1 Whitehill Welfare

Newton Stewart 0-3 Broxburn

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36 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Blackburn 1-1 Civil Service Strollers (playing ET)

LTHV 3-3 Lossiemouth (playing ET)

CSS won 4-2 on pens

LTHV won 4-2 on pens (game finished 4-4).

LTHV's equaliser in ET came from ex Hearts academy youngster Mikey Mbewe. 

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6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Scottish Cup 1st Round draw

 

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Home draw for Tranent,hope some supporters can get in on Boxing Day

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20 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Grant funding

 

Tier 5 clubs to receive £33k each (HL & LL)

Tier 6/7 clubs to receive between £13k and £2.5k each (EOS, WOS, SOS)

Godsend for these clubs.

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Whitehill rightly unhappy with the SFA.

 

https://www.whitehillwelfare.co.uk/news/club-statement-2591249.html

 

CLUB STATEMENT

BY JAMES STOUT
2 HOURS AGO
Scottish FA Disciplinary Tribunal

Following our Scottish Cup 2nd Preliminary Round tie with Hill of Beath Hawthorn on Saturday 12 December, The Club was made aware that one of the opposition players was potentially ineligible and should have been serving a suspension. The Club raised this matter with the Scottish FA on Monday morning and asked them to investigate.

The Club received an email late this afternoon from The Scottish FA to inform us that a Disciplinary Tribunal met this afternoon and has censured Hill of Beath Hawthorn and issued a £2,000 fine, which is suspended until the end of the 2020/21 season.

The Club finds this outcome baffling and inconsistent with The Scottish FA’s own rules for the competition and previous sanctions where a club has been found to have fielded an ineligible player.

As far as The Club can ascertain, regardless of circumstances, the Judicial Panel Protocol is clear that there is a mandatory ejection from The Scottish Cup for fielding an ineligible player (Rule 303, associated with Scottish Cup Rule 12).

To further compound our sense of injustice, the tribunal has reinstated the players suspension, resulting in the player missing the next round of The Scottish Cup.

Our supporters can be rest assured that The Club are raising this matter directly with The Scottish FA as a matter of urgency and will provide an update as and when they see fit to respond. The Club has however, been told that we have no right of appeal.

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14 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Whitehill rightly unhappy with the SFA.

 

https://www.whitehillwelfare.co.uk/news/club-statement-2591249.html

 

CLUB STATEMENT

BY JAMES STOUT
2 HOURS AGO
Scottish FA Disciplinary Tribunal

Following our Scottish Cup 2nd Preliminary Round tie with Hill of Beath Hawthorn on Saturday 12 December, The Club was made aware that one of the opposition players was potentially ineligible and should have been serving a suspension. The Club raised this matter with the Scottish FA on Monday morning and asked them to investigate.

The Club received an email late this afternoon from The Scottish FA to inform us that a Disciplinary Tribunal met this afternoon and has censured Hill of Beath Hawthorn and issued a £2,000 fine, which is suspended until the end of the 2020/21 season.

The Club finds this outcome baffling and inconsistent with The Scottish FA’s own rules for the competition and previous sanctions where a club has been found to have fielded an ineligible player.

As far as The Club can ascertain, regardless of circumstances, the Judicial Panel Protocol is clear that there is a mandatory ejection from The Scottish Cup for fielding an ineligible player (Rule 303, associated with Scottish Cup Rule 12).

To further compound our sense of injustice, the tribunal has reinstated the players suspension, resulting in the player missing the next round of The Scottish Cup.

Our supporters can be rest assured that The Club are raising this matter directly with The Scottish FA as a matter of urgency and will provide an update as and when they see fit to respond. The Club has however, been told that we have no right of appeal.


Discussed at length on Pie & Bovril. Seems to be a complicated situation involving a player (Daniel Watt) who had suspensions arising from two separate competitions (last year’s south challenge cup and the East of Scotland league this year). But perhaps crucially, he was shown on the  SFA 10 December list of outstanding suspensions as having only one game left to serve and that to be an East of Scotland league game. On that basis Hill of Beath played him in the cup tie. So the issue seems to me to be how far should clubs be held responsible for errors made by the SFA. Perhaps the fairest outcome would have been a replay of the cup tie. It would also help if the rules were simplified so that only offences in the Scottish Cup could give rise to players being suspended in that competition.

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5 hours ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

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So the issue seems to me to be how far should clubs be held responsible for errors made by the SFA. Perhaps the fairest outcome would have been a replay of the cup tie. It would also help if the rules were simplified so that only offences in the Scottish Cup could give rise to players being suspended in that competition.


This is only my reading of it btw.

The player was suspended from the South Cup from last season. He was sent off in a league match and received an immediate two game ban plus a futher East league ban (here's a link to the game and the red card at 9:30 .... the video is x-rated 😁 )

I think both the club and the player would (should?) have know that adds up to 4 games suspended, albeit in different competitions After missing this season's South Cup match the updated Suspension list effectively shows that one game counted as two games. I think player and club probably thought they won a watch and, rather than clarify, chose to keep quiet. Even more so when the next again week showed him down to an East League ban only.

I'd be amazed if club secretaries weren't up to date on their own player suspensions, I'd be less amazed if the player didn't have a clue.

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On 13/12/2020 at 12:24, systemx said:

Home draw for Tranent,hope some supporters can get in on Boxing Day


Musselburgh have had their game against Wick postponed 3 times at short notice! 
Round trip of 540 miles up there with travel and accommodation costs involved!

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8 minutes ago, Thomaso said:


Musselburgh have had their game against Wick postponed 3 times at short notice! 
Round trip of 540 miles up there with travel and accommodation costs involved!


Short notice?
Posponed last fri morning before last Sat 3pm ko
Posponed Mon morning before Tue 7:30pm ko
Posponed Fri afternoon before Sat 3pm ko
Unlucky for Musselburgh no doubting but there'd be questions asked if Wick called it off any earlier and even more questions if they called it off any later surely?

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21 minutes ago, RobboM said:


Short notice?
Posponed last fri morning before last Sat 3pm ko
Posponed Mon morning before Tue 7:30pm ko
Posponed Fri afternoon before Sat 3pm ko
Unlucky for Musselburgh no doubting but there'd be questions asked if Wick called it off any earlier and even more questions if they called it off any later surely?


So basically the 3 games were called off the day before. I believe Musselburgh had to travel up the day before due to the distance up there. Not much notice for the accommodation booked.

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So basically the 3 games were called off the day before. I believe Musselburgh had to travel up the day before due to the distance up there. Not much notice for the accommodation booked.

Were they called off due to weather issues?

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18 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Were they called off due to weather issues?


Don’t know Dave. 🤷‍♂️

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On 19/12/2020 at 19:56, Thomaso said:


Musselburgh have had their game against Wick postponed 3 times at short notice! 
Round trip of 540 miles up there with travel and accommodation costs involved!

Finally going ahead tonight.

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

FT (aet) Wick 3-1 Musselburgh

 

Musselburgh finished with 9 men.

Long way to go, several times, to lose. 

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1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

FT (aet) Wick 3-1 Musselburgh

 

Musselburgh finished with 9 men.


And two penalties given to Wick! 😡

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12 hours ago, RobboM said:

10 man Musselburgh equalise on 83 minutes
only 3 subs, inc sub gk

The goalie was their goalie coach apparently, and then when he got sent off it went to their under 20s keeper.

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15 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

FT (aet) Wick 3-1 Musselburgh

 

Musselburgh finished with 9 men.

 

A total shambles that the game was played on a Monday night.

 

Wick is 270 miles away from Musselburgh.

 

Utter nonsense at that level that a team had to drive 5 and a half hours on a Monday to play a match.

 

Musselburgh were missing a few of their first team players because they had booked time off their work and then couldn't get it changed when the game was suspended and then rescheduled.

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Rules are rules - don't enter the cup if you can't put out a team. Similar sounds to Albion Rovers claiming it's too far to Brora to have them in the league as "we can't afford the bus fares."

 

I'm reminded of the very first league season in 1890 when Morton or some other Western team moaned about having to come to play Hearts in Edinburgh. Hearts' answer was "we have to go to the Glasgow area every second week!" (Hearts were the only non-West team).

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8 minutes ago, JTJ said:

Rules are rules - don't enter the cup if you can't put out a team. Similar sounds to Albion Rovers claiming it's too far to Brora to have them in the league as "we can't afford the bus fares."

 

I'm reminded of the very first league season in 1890 when Morton or some other Western team moaned about having to come to play Hearts in Edinburgh. Hearts' answer was "we have to go to the Glasgow area every second week!" (Hearts were the only non-West team).

How old are you JTJ? 😲

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Postponed games in the cup have always resulted in midweek games for non league teams.

I was playing for Vale in the early 80,s and we drew with Stranraer on the Saturday (game was postponed the previous Saturday) and had to go to Stranraar on the Monday night.

Edinburgh to Stranraar via Innerleithen in heavy rain was bad enough but the pitch was waterlogged.

Ref was from Glasgow as were a number of their players, option return on Wednesday or play.

 

We played and lost 2-0 in heavy rain and strong wind.

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2 hours ago, Lambo85 said:

 

A total shambles that the game was played on a Monday night.

 

Wick is 270 miles away from Musselburgh.

 

Utter nonsense at that level that a team had to drive 5 and a half hours on a Monday to play a match.

 

Musselburgh were missing a few of their first team players because they had booked time off their work and then couldn't get it changed when the game was suspended and then rescheduled.

It had already been postponed three times and the next round is on boxing day.

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3 hours ago, Lambo85 said:

 

A total shambles that the game was played on a Monday night.

 

Wick is 270 miles away from Musselburgh.

 

Utter nonsense at that level that a team had to drive 5 and a half hours on a Monday to play a match.

 

Musselburgh were missing a few of their first team players because they had booked time off their work and then couldn't get it changed when the game was suspended and then rescheduled.


Reading the local newspaper report it looks like Musselburgh got a rough deal from the referee! 

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