Levein post match interiew

[GinRummy]

8 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said:

 

Found this bit interesting: "With everything else that's happened with injuries with Washington and Naismith being out, if we lose Uche for a period of time then it leaves us with next to nothing".

 

Admission that Wighton + McLean + Keena = next to nothing (or near zero in mathematical terms)

 

 

Also hints at SN not being fit anytime soon.

[annushorribilis III]

7 minutes ago, Tokyo Drifter said:

 

Found this bit interesting: "With everything else that's happened with injuries with Washington and Naismith being out, if we lose Uche for a period of time then it leaves us with next to nothing".

 

Admission that Wighton + McLean + Keena = next to nothing (or near zero in mathematical terms)

 

I had a wee chuckle on reading that. The Levein Loyalists on here will be furious - they've been defending Mclean (in particular) and Wighton against any criticism on here. 

[Nelly Terraces]

4 minutes ago, Mid Calder Jambo said:

Been saying it for a while now.  Her management of the club is now negligent.  If we were regulated she would have been up before the beaks long before now.

Completely agree.

 

It's now become totally obvious, except to those who like in cloud cuckoo land, that she hasn't got what it takes to run a football club. If she, and he, had anything about them they'd be looking to leave & let others who have the necessary competency to take over & run things.

[Mid Calder Jambo]

Just now, Nelly Terraces said:

Completely agree.

 

It's now become totally obvious, except to those who like in cloud cuckoo land, that she hasn't got what it takes to run a football club. If she, and he, had anything about them they'd be looking to leave & let others who have the necessary competency to take over & run things.

It's two huge egos we have to move on though.  Won't be easy but we have, as fans, worked miracles in the past. Some in the support just need to wake up as we can't let this go on much longer.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said:

This all day long. After yet another shambolic display followed by that interview his position - at EVERY level of the club is completely untenable.

 

It's hard to think of anyone who's more arrogant, & who accepts no responsibility whatsoever, while being so utterly useless. Ann Budges' inaction here is amounting to willful mismanagement.

Agreed, only Boris Johnson or Donald Trump spring to mind.

[Jambof3tornado]

2 hours ago, Holyrood_Hearts said:

It’s not just weeks. He played JM as left wing back v Raith at the start of last season’s Betfred Cup game & he was horrendous. Levein’s obsession with a back 3 & wingbacks when it’s never worked is a massive concern. 

 

On the few occasions we’ve won with this shape was at ER (Olly Lee’s goal) when we were awful to watch & 2-1 at Rugby Park (Clare & Naismith) when again we weren’t great & Killie continually attacked our left hand side cos Mulraney was too far up the park & Berra was having to cover him all night.  

The back 3 pish is to cover Berra's form/recovery from injury/whatever else it is.

[Getintaethem]

If you have only two fit strikers and leave both on the bench and start with none, what does that say to Maclean and Keena?  No wonder some of the players lack confidence.  Levien decided at the start of the season that both Maclean and Keena were good enough for the first team squad.  Yet won't play them when all his other strikers are out.  Bizarre.

[pettigrewsstylist]

2 hours ago, Tokyo Drifter said:

 

Found this bit interesting: "With everything else that's happened with injuries with Washington and Naismith being out, if we lose Uche for a period of time then it leaves us with next to nothing".

 

Admission that Wighton + McLean + Keena = next to nothing (or near zero in mathematical terms)

 

There is no way Wighton + Mclean + Keena equates to zero

Wighton + Maclean = minus 50 for a start.

Keena has promise but cant be scored that high yet.

[pettigrewsstylist]

4 minutes ago, Getintaethem said:

If you have only two fit strikers and leave both on the bench and start with none, what does that say to Maclean and Keena?  No wonder some of the players lack confidence.  Levien decided at the start of the season that both Maclean and Keena were good enough for the first team squad.  Yet won't play them when all his other strikers are out.  Bizarre.

If you are Harry Cochrane and you watch Sean Clare for last 12 months getting how many appearances?

[thewiseone]

More bizarre decisions, nothing he does or says makes sense.

Think he's playing a blinder, might even be wanting that severance package afterall and doing his utmost to force her hand.

[The Real Maroonblood]

19 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said:

Completely agree.

 

It's now become totally obvious, except to those who like in cloud cuckoo land, that she hasn't got what it takes to run a football club. If she, and he, had anything about them they'd be looking to leave & let others who have the necessary competency to take over & run things.

It’s maybe not fair to compare but even though it was Celtic Fergus McCann seemed to get it right after he set up the business side then left.

Ann Budge has the business in good shape but is now letting the football side go tits up.

[Newton51]

1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

It’s maybe not fair to compare but even though it was Celtic Fergus McCann seemed to get it right after he set up the business side then left.

Ann Budge has the business in good shape but is now letting the football side go tits up.

mccann is a good comparison. Saves the club and built the new stadium whilst competing for the league. They did Eventually turn on him and seen as penny pinching before he finally left. He was booed at one point when unfurling the league flag but probably only realised now the good job he had done 

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

mccann is a good comparison. Saves the club and built the new stadium whilst competing for the league. They did Eventually turn on him and seen as penny pinching before he finally left. He was booed at one point when unfurling the league flag but probably only realised now the good job he had done 

When Ann Budge eventually leaves I hope it is with fondness but the ways things are at the moment maybe not.

[Sherbet]

19 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Agreed, only Boris Johnson or Donald Trump spring to mind.

At least they are doing good jobs

[Uilleam]

Deflection is seen as a narcissistic abuse tactic used to control the mind and emotions of others.CL has tried to direct criticism attention  away from him self towards the players.  

 

 

 

[Bauld]

2 hours ago, Uilleam said:

Deflection is seen as a narcissistic abuse tactic used to control the mind and emotions of others.CL has tried to direct criticism attention  away from him self towards the players.  

 

 

 

 

Levein has taken the blame for this teams performances for a year now.

 

At some point you have to give the players a rocket as well. They were and have been ****ing awful.

 

Levein has set us up to attack teams in most games. Even when playing a back 3 he's doing it to try and get 4 men attacking the other team. One as a target man and 3 behind operating between the lines and in wide areas to create chances and get into dangerous areas. He wants us moving the ball with pace and attacking in numbers.

 

Yet despite that and despite the clear game plan we go into matches with we end up looking ****ing terrible, the players make a ***** of simple passing, they make a ***** of shots on goal, they make a ***** of set pieces. Sometimes you have to look past the manager and ask yourself is this team, every man on the pitch, really giving everything they have for the badge?

 

The injuries have been extremely damaging. You can see how much it hurts teams just by looking at Man City just now. Despite a billion worth of talent spread over a big squad if you lose a couple of mainstay defenders and a creative midfielder you will not be as good as you can be. We've not got the finances to have a squad of equally good players for every position so when we lose 7-10 players most of which would make the first 11 it is going to be crippling.

 

It's nice to see some fire from Levein again. When he took the job he didn't look like he wanted to be there. Within a few weeks of him replacing Cathro we started to look much better and he looked like he had found his groove again, he was arrogant, winding the media up and looking like he had the fire burning again. Since his health scare he hasn't looked like that man, he's looked like the guy who doesn't want to be there again.

 

I think he's only still doing this because we are in another Semi final. If we didn't have a chance at a trophy he would probably walk. But he's determined to get a winners medal before he ends his career in management again, this time probably forever.

[Paul Shark]

When our Superstars get back fit. Levein has been taking the piss for months and anyone that believes his shite is the definition of gullible !! We need to go on a run of 10-15 games where we win the vast majority of them. Does anyone really believe that Naismith, Haring and Walker are suddenly all going to be able to play 10 consecutive games !! **** off !!

[Robbo-Jambo]

1 hour ago, Paul Shark said:

When our Superstars get back fit. Levein has been taking the piss for months and anyone that believes his shite is the definition of gullible !! We need to go on a run of 10-15 games where we win the vast majority of them. Does anyone really believe that Naismith, Haring and Walker are suddenly all going to be able to play 10 consecutive games !! **** off !!

 Correct.

 

Spoke to a friend yesterday who knows one of the youth team coaches and told my mate the club knew a week past Saturday ie. the St mirren game that Souttar needed an operation and was booked in last Friday to get it done in London. 

 

Now, so 5 days after the St Mirren game Levein on the Wednesday did an interview saying that Naismith and Haring would be back in 2 or 3 weeks??? plus he also said Souttar was making good progress and would be back at about the same time as the other 2.

 

With the interview being 2 days before his operation, last Wednesday  he is clearly a bare faced liar and taking the piss out of the fans. 

 

Not for the first time he has lied about injuries to try and take some heat off himself. 

 

Levein was one of my favourite players growing up but because of the fact he won't resign with his atrocious record and has reverted to stupid, see through lies, I am quickly losing any semblance of respect for him. 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

22 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

 Correct.

 

Spoke to a friend yesterday who knows one of the youth team coaches and told my mate the club knew a week past Saturday ie. the St mirren game that Souttar needed an operation and was booked in last Friday to get it done in London. 

 

Now, so 5 days after the St Mirren game Levein on the Wednesday did an interview saying that Naismith and Haring would be back in 2 or 3 weeks??? plus he also said Souttar was making good progress and would be back at about the same time as the other 2.

 

With the interview being 2 days before his operation, last Wednesday  he is clearly a bare faced liar and taking the piss out of the fans. 

 

Not for the first time he has lied about injuries to try and take some heat off himself. 

 

Levein was one of my favourite players growing up but because of the fact he won't resign with his atrocious record and has reverted to stupid, see through lies, I am quickly losing any semblance of respect for him. 

this

reminds me of McCoist when he was rangers manager

[Enzo Chiefo]

2 hours ago, Bauld said:

 

Levein has taken the blame for this teams performances for a year now.

 

At some point you have to give the players a rocket as well. They were and have been ****ing awful.

 

Levein has set us up to attack teams in most games. Even when playing a back 3 he's doing it to try and get 4 men attacking the other team. One as a target man and 3 behind operating between the lines and in wide areas to create chances and get into dangerous areas. He wants us moving the ball with pace and attacking in numbers.

 

Yet despite that and despite the clear game plan we go into matches with we end up looking ****ing terrible, the players make a ***** of simple passing, they make a ***** of shots on goal, they make a ***** of set pieces. Sometimes you have to look past the manager and ask yourself is this team, every man on the pitch, really giving everything they have for the badge?

 

The injuries have been extremely damaging. You can see how much it hurts teams just by looking at Man City just now. Despite a billion worth of talent spread over a big squad if you lose a couple of mainstay defenders and a creative midfielder you will not be as good as you can be. We've not got the finances to have a squad of equally good players for every position so when we lose 7-10 players most of which would make the first 11 it is going to be crippling.

 

It's nice to see some fire from Levein again. When he took the job he didn't look like he wanted to be there. Within a few weeks of him replacing Cathro we started to look much better and he looked like he had found his groove again, he was arrogant, winding the media up and looking like he had the fire burning again. Since his health scare he hasn't looked like that man, he's looked like the guy who doesn't want to be there again.

 

I think he's only still doing this because we are in another Semi final. If we didn't have a chance at a trophy he would probably walk. But he's determined to get a winners medal before he ends his career in management again, this time probably forever.

Absolute nonsense.  It doesn't matter what formation you play if you coach them to play a slow passing game and pick players purely because of their size and strength. Levein's whole footballing philosophy is about set pieces, attacking and defending them. A rigid system with slow, meaningless passing,, long throws, brute strength, everyone back defending,  coaching wingers to cut inside, winning free kicks around the box. It's prehistoric. Our biggest priblem for several years has been the lack of movement and the lack of pace in our play. The problem has persisted whether Washington, Uche  Naismith, Walker or any other of our injured players has played or not. We need a fresh approach from a manager who will instill a quicker passing game, hammering home the importance of moving off the ball, offering an option, allowing players to cut inside or hit the bye line, permitting players to express themselves and , to an extent,  do their own thing. The players will breath a sigh of relief when Levein is moved on and there won't be a seat to be had at the new gaffer's first game in charge. I would expect an immediate change in atmosphere throughout the club and amongst the supporters.

 

 

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolute nonsense.  It doesn't matter what formation you play if you coach them to play a slow passing game and pick players purely because of their size and strength. Levein's whole footballing philosophy is about set pieces, attacking and defending them. A rigid system with slow, meaningless passing,, long throws, brute strength, everyone back defending,  coaching wingers to cut inside, winning free kicks around the box. It's prehistoric. Our biggest priblem for several years has been the lack of movement and the lack of pace in our play. The problem has persisted whether Washington, Uche  Naismith, Walker or any other of our injured players has played or not. We need a fresh approach from a manager who will instill a quicker passing game, hammering home the importance of moving off the ball, offering an option, allowing players to cut inside or hit the bye line, permitting players to express themselves and , to an extent,  do their own thing. The players will breath a sigh of relief when Levein is moved on and there won't be a seat to be had at the new gaffer's first game in charge. I would expect an immediate change in atmosphere throughout the club and amongst the supporters.

 

 

Everyone who wants the club to get out of the rut we are in surely can see there is only one thing to change the fortunes of the team and that is a new manager. 

The players are being hindered by the tactics and whilst this team is far from our best in terms of quality it is still capable of much better and would flourish under good coaching and a management plan that believes in taking the game to our opponents.

[busby1985]

On 06/10/2019 at 11:13, GinRummy said:

 

Also hints at SN not being fit anytime soon.

Levein pretty much said at the HMSA meeting that he doesn’t really expect Naismith to be back playing regular and fit until he gets his 50th cap. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

1 minute ago, busby1985 said:

Levein pretty much said at the HMSA meeting that he doesn’t really expect Naismith to be back playing regular and fit until he gets his 50th cap. 

He changes like the wind. Full of shit

[annushorribilis III]

22 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Levein pretty much said at the HMSA meeting that he doesn’t really expect Naismith to be back playing regular and fit until he gets his 50th cap. 

No offence, but can you expand on that - I'm not getting the point/connection. 

[Pasquale for King]

6 hours ago, Sherbet said:

At least they are doing good jobs

Let’s not get into that.

[Pasquale for King]

27 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Levein pretty much said at the HMSA meeting that he doesn’t really expect Naismith to be back playing regular and fit until he gets his 50th cap. 

Macphee said that too?

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Absolute nonsense.  It doesn't matter what formation you play if you coach them to play a slow passing game and pick players purely because of their size and strength. Levein's whole footballing philosophy is about set pieces, attacking and defending them. A rigid system with slow, meaningless passing,, long throws, brute strength, everyone back defending,  coaching wingers to cut inside, winning free kicks around the box. It's prehistoric. Our biggest priblem for several years has been the lack of movement and the lack of pace in our play. The problem has persisted whether Washington, Uche  Naismith, Walker or any other of our injured players has played or not. We need a fresh approach from a manager who will instill a quicker passing game, hammering home the importance of moving off the ball, offering an option, allowing players to cut inside or hit the bye line, permitting players to express themselves and , to an extent,  do their own thing. The players will breath a sigh of relief when Levein is moved on and there won't be a seat to be had at the new gaffer's first game in charge. I would expect an immediate change in atmosphere throughout the club and amongst the supporters.

 

 

Fantastic post 👍🏽

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

 Correct.

 

Spoke to a friend yesterday who knows one of the youth team coaches and told my mate the club knew a week past Saturday ie. the St mirren game that Souttar needed an operation and was booked in last Friday to get it done in London. 

 

Now, so 5 days after the St Mirren game Levein on the Wednesday did an interview saying that Naismith and Haring would be back in 2 or 3 weeks??? plus he also said Souttar was making good progress and would be back at about the same time as the other 2.

 

With the interview being 2 days before his operation, last Wednesday  he is clearly a bare faced liar and taking the piss out of the fans. 

 

Not for the first time he has lied about injuries to try and take some heat off himself. 

 

Levein was one of my favourite players growing up but because of the fact he won't resign with his atrocious record and has reverted to stupid, see through lies, I am quickly losing any semblance of respect for him. 

Good post, when the dates are laid out like this it’s pretty clear.

[TheGoodLord]

It would appear the best way now to get yourself a start is be out injured (not too long I hope) let the other players make a complete arse of it and then walk into the team on your return to fitness. An added bonus in Walkers case is that folks may have forgotten how poor he’d been playing up to the point he was injured. 

[busby1985]

28 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said:

No offence, but can you expand on that - I'm not getting the point/connection. 

Levein was asked about it, Naismith fitness, and he said something along the lines of we’d start to see Naismith back fit once he got his 50th cap out the way. Said that milestone meant a lot to him and we’d start to see him once that was out the way. Something along those lines, it was paraphrased in the notes so I may be way off with my take from it. 

[wavydavy]

1 hour ago, busby1985 said:

Levein pretty much said at the HMSA meeting that he doesn’t really expect Naismith to be back playing regular and fit until he gets his 50th cap. 

 

Are you sure it wasn't his 50th Birthday?

[busby1985]

2 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

Are you sure it wasn't his 50th Birthday?

😂😂😂

[annushorribilis III]

32 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Levein was asked about it, Naismith fitness, and he said something along the lines of we’d start to see Naismith back fit once he got his 50th cap out the way. Said that milestone meant a lot to him and we’d start to see him once that was out the way. Something along those lines, it was paraphrased in the notes so I may be way off with my take from it. 

Ta.

[Shaggy2]

Took a couple of days to get round to it but here is the full Radio Scotland interview including reaction from Dick and Mick. You can still hear the unedited version on BBC Sounds by searching for Off The Ball Saturday Supplement.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2019 by Shaggy2

[1874robbo]

25 minutes ago, Shaggy2 said:

Took a couple of days to get round to it but here is the full Radio Scotland interview including reaction from Dick and Mick. You can still hear the unedited version on BBC Sounds by searching for Off The Ball Saturday Supplement.

 

 

Cheers for that.

michael Stewart bang on again.

[Maroon Sailor]

I can actually empathise with Levein in that radio interview.

 

That group of players who stepped out on to that pitch in a maroon shirt on Saturday were an absolute disgrace.

 

Levein rightly takes the flack but some of those players are as weak as piss.

 

You'd think the fringe players would want to prove a point - make the most of their opportunity but they are bunch of pansies.

[kingantti1874]

8 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

I can actually empathise with Levein in that radio interview.

 

That group of players who stepped out on to that pitch in a maroon shirt on Saturday were an absolute disgrace.

 

Levein rightly takes the flack but some of those players are as weak as piss.

 

You'd think the fringe players would want to prove a point - make the most of their opportunity but they are bunch of pansies.

He wasn’t wrong, that’s been the problem for the past ****ing year though.. also, changing shape every ****ing week, players out of position every week.. neither wonder we lost stupid goals .. neither wonder players don’t understand the runs to make

[Newton51]

1 hour ago, Shaggy2 said:

Took a couple of days to get round to it but here is the full Radio Scotland interview including reaction from Dick and Mick. You can still hear the unedited version on BBC Sounds by searching for Off The Ball Saturday Supplement.

 

 

who are the players coming back for the rangers game?  Thought everyone was out for longer. Maybe naisy?

[corkie64]

Got to say, like him or loathe him Michael Stewart is bang on the money, Levein sounded like a beaten man, deflection his only friend it would appear...

[OTT]

22 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

I can actually empathise with Levein in that radio interview.

 

That group of players who stepped out on to that pitch in a maroon shirt on Saturday were an absolute disgrace.

 

Levein rightly takes the flack but some of those players are as weak as piss.

 

You'd think the fringe players would want to prove a point - make the most of their opportunity but they are bunch of pansies.

 

Yeah. Sadly its been going on too long though. 

[Shaggy2]

8 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

who are the players coming back for the rangers game?  Thought everyone was out for longer. Maybe naisy?

Been reported today that Walker hopes to be back. I’m sure Haring was running again at the back end of last month? 

[Thomaso]

27 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

I can actually empathise with Levein in that radio interview.

 

That group of players who stepped out on to that pitch in a maroon shirt on Saturday were an absolute disgrace.

 

Levein rightly takes the flack but some of those players are as weak as piss.

 

You'd think the fringe players would want to prove a point - make the most of their opportunity but they are bunch of pansies.

Pansies signed by who again? 🤔

[Thomaso]

1 minute ago, Shaggy2 said:

Been reported today that Walker hopes to be back. I’m sure Haring was running again at the back end of last month? 

Surely these guys will not be up to match fitness!

[Maroon Sailor]

1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

Pansies signed by who again? 🤔

 

Well exactly 

 

He believed in them and they don't bother putting the effort in. They get away with it as well as all the attention is on Levein.

[ramrod]

Some rallying  call that lol 

Firstiy who are these players ready to come back for the Rangers game ?And secondly our next 3 games are Sevco home , Livvy away St Johnstone away . There is no way this bunch of spineless chancres are getting a win there . 1pt absolute max . 

He will be slavering the same shite at the start of next month  and the next 

[Coco]

Who are the players who aren't going to be protected any more?

 

Pereira, Meshino and Whelan have just arrived.  I don't think anyone questions the effort of Smith, Berra or Dikamona.  Even Levein surely wouldn't lower himself to criticise young players like Irving or Hickey.  Damour played for a little while despite the hamstring injury Levein was not bothered about the previous week.

 

So that leaves Clare and Mulraney.  Both have played nearly every week.  Clare has been terrible but was yet again played out of position.  And a player Levein had said in the press just needed his confidence built!  Mulraney couldn't be more obviously not a wing back yet Levein and MacPhee play him there.

 

So they are the two players he's going to stop protecting?  What a cowardly inadequate he is. 

[Guest ToqueJambo]

1 hour ago, 1874robbo said:

Cheers for that.

michael Stewart bang on again.

 

Has Michael Stewart in all his rants and snidey Twitter posts ever even acknowledged the injury crisis we've faced last season or this? I get Levein and the players are failing miserably to overcome it, but here's what a professional, unbiased assessment of a manager in trouble reads like - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49964486

 

This could be written about us right now - I wish someone would write an honest non-personal assessment - in terms of where we are in the table and decisions needing to be made about the manager.

 

Also, the injuries Man Utd - one of the richest in the world - have are nowhere near ours, yet they are presented here as a big part of their current form.

[Shaggy2]

26 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

Surely these guys will not be up to match fitness!

You wouldn’t think so. He desperately needs guys who’ll have 100% to give. Like you, I’m not convinced.

 

[1874robbo]

22 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Has Michael Stewart in all his rants and snidey Twitter posts ever even acknowledged the injury crisis we've faced last season or this? I get Levein and the players are failing miserably to overcome it, but here's what a professional, unbiased assessment of a manager in trouble reads like - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49964486

 

This could be written about us right now - I wish someone would write an honest non-personal assessment - in terms of where we are in the table and decisions needing to be made about the manager.

 

Also, the injuries Man Utd - one of the richest in the world - have are nowhere near ours, yet they are presented here as a big part of their current form.

I wish Michael Stewart was allowed to interview Craig Levein, maybe then the searching questions would be asked.

something our other journalists seem incapable of doing.

i personally feel outwith Michael Stewart, Craig Levein gets an easy ride from the press.

[Flimsy]

26 minutes ago, Coco said:

Who are the players who aren't going to be protected any more?

 

Pereira, Meshino and Whelan have just arrived.  I don't think anyone questions the effort of Smith, Berra or Dikamona.  Even Levein surely wouldn't lower himself to criticise young players like Irving or Hickey.  Damour played for a little while despite the hamstring injury Levein was not bothered about the previous week.

 

So that leaves Clare and Mulraney.  Both have played nearly every week.  Clare has been terrible but was yet again played out of position.  And a player Levein had said in the press just needed his confidence built!  Mulraney couldn't be more obviously not a wing back yet Levein and MacPhee play him there.

 

So they are the two players he's going to stop protecting?  What a cowardly inadequate he is. 

Great analysis. This is the 2019 version of his 'wage thief' diatribe in around 2003. It's his last desperate throw of the dice. It won't work this time.