Armed Forces Day.

[Thomaso]

5 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

If this event is so important in helping to protect the country, don't you want to see other clubs doing these events? 

I'm baffled by that.  

 

Easily baffled.....

[FruitJuice]

24 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Easily baffled.....

No really. If these events are important to sustaining the armed forces that are going to protect us, i thought you would be advocating that other clubs do it as well.  But that's not as important to you as having enough army recruits.  

You still haven't answered if other clubs have refused to do this or haven't been approached.  I wonder how many clubs down south are doing this.  

You surely must see why, if it's only us and rangers are doing it, we are open to the mini tag? 

But I suppose you dont give a feck about other clubs.  Feck the nations safety as it's not as important as you letting us know how much of a PHM you are.

If we had more fans like you, crowds wouldn't go down when we were shite. 

You fancy holding PHM days at schools etc to help recruit new Proper Hearts Fans..?  

[Thomaso]

21 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

No really. If these events are important to sustaining the armed forces that are going to protect us, i thought you would be advocating that other clubs do it as well.  But that's not as important to you as having enough army recruits.  

You still haven't answered if other clubs have refused to do this or haven't been approached.  I wonder how many clubs down south are doing this.  

You surely must see why, if it's only us and rangers are doing it, we are open to the mini tag? 

But I suppose you dont give a feck about other clubs.  Feck the nations safety as it's not as important as you letting us know how much of a PHM you are.

If we had more fans like you, crowds wouldn't go down when we were shite. 

You fancy holding PHM days at schools etc to help recruit new Proper Hearts Fans..?  

 

“Feck the nations safety”??? What the feck are you rambling about???

How the feck would I know if other Clubs were approached and refused????

I support the young men and women as individuals for the job they do today in protecting our freedom - not because it’s some sort of recruiting drive, or condoning British imperialism, or that I’m your definition of a PHM!!

Edited October 5, 2019 by Thomaso

[FruitJuice]

17 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

“Feck the nations safety”??? What the feck are you rambling about???

How the feck would I know if other Clubs were approached and refused????

I support the young men and women as individuals for the job they do today in protecting our freedom - not because it’s some sort of recruiting drive, or condoning British imperialism, or that I’m your definition of a PHM!!

I'm.just trying to understand why you dont give a feck about other clubs holding these events if they are for a good cause.  So the good cause isn't that important if you don't care about other clubs doing it.  If It was something i was supportive of, I'd be wanting as many clubs as possible to get involved. 

 

[FruitJuice]

22 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

“Feck the nations safety”??? What the feck are you rambling about???

How the feck would I know if other Clubs were approached and refused????

I support the young men and women as individuals for the job they do today in protecting our freedom - not because it’s some sort of recruiting drive, or condoning British imperialism, or that I’m your definition of a PHM!!

You ex army?

[ri Alban]

21 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said:

Recruiting on the plaza is accurate to a point however, there is no sergeant with a clipboard saying “sign here sunny and we will see you Monday morning”.  Seeing the military on the streets going about their business in general can help promote their image but does not directly target recruiting, it can however help to improve recruitment when someone decides “I could do that”.  There are a lot of people enquire then decide it’s not for them, there are also a lot who try to join but fail for some reason or another.  The vast majority of new recruits into the Army are encouraged by relatives and friends and, they had ambitions to join the military for a while.

 

Troops on the plaza are more about breaking down the stigma of joining up.  If you have no friends or family and, your military view is guided only by what you hear or see then your perception of the Army may be quite different to what it actually is.  In the main, a lot of young people believe you have to be some sort of physical superman to get through the training process and are immediate put off.  Talking to troops on the plaza can help break down that myth.

 

The SAS actively send out teams to the army to deliver presentations on their selection process.  They were desperately short of recruits as regular soldiers had the perception that SAS selection was almost impossible to pass, again a big myth, any trooper you meet will tell you to go and have a go (ps, you have to be in the military first though).   

You could do a helluva lot worse, than join the Army. Can be a Great career and life.

[jumpship]

9 hours ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Why did you post historical barbarism of the British Army when the Club are honouring the young men and women who protect our freedom TODAY???

In reply to the op talking about British history?

[jumpship]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

You could do a helluva lot worse, than join the Army. Can be a Great career and life.

Sadly, for many, once they leave the army life is not great.

[ri Alban]

Just now, jumpship said:

Sadly, for many, once they leave the army life is not great.

Yes, I know. But life's a bitch and then you die.

[Nookie Bear]

Turns out AF Day is a bit political after all 

[EIEIO]

Not for me happy with remembrance day not this stuff. My dad fought in WW2 and my older brother was in the Royal engineers and sent to  Northern Ireland a few times so I suppose I have a genuine link to the British  armed forces. Seems like a propaganda / recruitment exercise Hearts should have nothing to do with this.

[OBE]

11 hours ago, YouLetYourClubDie said:

If ypu read your history you will understand the blood thirsty nature of the Army we are meant to celebrate tomorrow. It is not in my name.

 

Sleep safe and sound last night? Sincere gratitude to everyone who contribute to our national & international security.

Edited October 5, 2019 by Old Blue Eyes

[OBE]

3 hours ago, ri Alban said:

You could do a helluva lot worse, than join the Army. Can be a Great career and life.

 

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Yes, I know. But life's a bitch and then you die.

 

Life, which is it?

[luckydug]

11 hours ago, stevie said:

Defo in my name,I'm proud of all of them including my Grandad who was in Burma in WW2 for nearly 4 years,none as a prisoner!

Sad that some can't acknowledge the sacrifices made by so many!

My dad was also in Burma.

The soldiers who had to fight the 2nd WW had no choice in the matter.

Remembrance day for me is always more about the men who saved civilisation and less about the modern day professional soldier . I respect them and honour their sacrifice but the fact is that the modern soldier should know what he is getting into and is really no better than other public service personnel who save lives and put themselves in danger in the process.

The club should be more even handed when honouring 'heroes' .You don't have to be in the armed forces to deserve 'hero' status.

Having said all that I am a bit uneasy about military personnel getting the run of our stadium.

[jumpship]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Yes, I know. But life's a bitch and then you die.

Eh? 

 

That's a pretty poor attitude. Is that your reply to the thousands who are abandoned to a life on the streets and left suffering with PTSD. 

[stevie]

30 minutes ago, luckydug said:

My dad was also in Burma.

The soldiers who had to fight the 2nd WW had no choice in the matter.

Remembrance day for me is always more about the men who saved civilisation and less about the modern day professional soldier . I respect them and honour their sacrifice but the fact is that the modern soldier should know what he is getting into and is really no better than other public service personnel who save lives and put themselves in danger in the process.

The club should be more even handed when honouring 'heroes' .You don't have to be in the armed forces to deserve 'hero' status.

Having said all that I am a bit uneasy about military personnel getting the run of our stadium.

 

Well put,I’ve no problem with today’s events.As some have suggested,it’d be nice to do similar for Our emergency services 

[redjambo]

12 minutes ago, stevie said:

 

Well put,I’ve no problem with today’s events.As some have suggested,it’d be nice to do similar for Our emergency services 

 

Yup.

[Jambof3tornado]

10 hours ago, FruitJuice said:

I'm.just trying to understand why you dont give a feck about other clubs holding these events if they are for a good cause.  So the good cause isn't that important if you don't care about other clubs doing it.  If It was something i was supportive of, I'd be wanting as many clubs as possible to get involved. 

 

Other clubs can do what they like. It doesn't matter in the slightest.

 

I'm proud to have served my country, I also dislike fans bringing union jacks to a football match with the sole purpose of using it as a tool to wind up opponents.

 

 

[Jambof3tornado]

47 minutes ago, luckydug said:

My dad was also in Burma.

The soldiers who had to fight the 2nd WW had no choice in the matter.

Remembrance day for me is always more about the men who saved civilisation and less about the modern day professional soldier . I respect them and honour their sacrifice but the fact is that the modern soldier should know what he is getting into and is really no better than other public service personnel who save lives and put themselves in danger in the process.

The club should be more even handed when honouring 'heroes' .You don't have to be in the armed forces to deserve 'hero' status.

Having said all that I am a bit uneasy about military personnel getting the run of our stadium.

I can guarantee that none of the military staff attending today will see themselves as heroes.

 

Why are you uneasy at military personnel getting the run of our stadium??

[ri Alban]

41 minutes ago, jumpship said:

Eh? 

 

That's a pretty poor attitude. Is that your reply to the thousands who are abandoned to a life on the streets and left suffering with PTSD. 

No. But it isn't just Armed forces vets that struggle with problems.

 

The UK government from all colours have a lot to answer for. Take your grievance up with them.

[Governor Tarkin]

Just now, ri Alban said:

No. But it isn't just Armed forces vets that struggle with problems.

 

The UK government from all colours have a lot to answer for. Take your grievance up with them.

 

 

[ri Alban]

30 minutes ago, stevie said:

 

Well put,I’ve no problem with today’s events.As some have suggested,it’d be nice to do similar for Our emergency services 

Indeed.  The horrors these people have seen, I wouldn't want to experience.

[Governor Tarkin]

30 minutes ago, stevie said:

 

Well put,I’ve no problem with today’s events.As some have suggested,it’d be nice to do similar for Our emergency services 

 

Well we already organise a 'Police and Ambulance service day' when Celtic are in town.

 

 

[luckydug]

32 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

I can guarantee that none of the military staff attending today will see themselves as heroes.

 

Why are you uneasy at military personnel getting the run of our stadium??

We are a football club not a branch of the armed forces.

I have no objection to them having collections outside the stadium and perhaps a mention on the PA system.

In short they should be treated the same as every other charity/good cause.

[Jambof3tornado]

12 minutes ago, luckydug said:

We are a football club not a branch of the armed forces.

I have no objection to them having collections outside the stadium and perhaps a mention on the PA system.

In short they should be treated the same as every other charity/good cause.

We have invited a small number into the ground. We are not forming up anotheŕ battalion ffs.

[Morph]

I was down at the plaza this morning, seen them setting up.  They do have the recruitment stalls but was to be expected.

 

Got chatting to a Celtic soldier who said he’s supporting the hertz today.  Thought he might’ve seen me saying I didn’t like armed forces day on kickback and wanted to batter me  

[jumpship]

36 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

No. But it isn't just Armed forces vets that struggle with problems.

 

The UK government from all colours have a lot to answer for. Take your grievance up with them.

So the whole thing about supporting our troops is a load of p1sh then... fake support apart from a couple of hours waving flags and lies about how much we support them. 

 

Once it's over, see ya... 

[ri Alban]

23 minutes ago, jumpship said:

So the whole thing about supporting our troops is a load of p1sh then... fake support apart from a couple of hours waving flags and lies about how much we support them. 

 

Once it's over, see ya... 

There's not much I can do, other than vote, clap and donate. I wish it wasn't the case, but, it is what it is. 

 

 

[ri Alban]

2 hours ago, Old Blue Eyes said:

 

 

Life, which is it?

It's up to you!

[Shanks said no]

Some snaps 

[John Findlay]

Bit of a damp squib on the plaza to tell the truth.

[jumpship]

2 hours ago, ri Alban said:

There's not much I can do, other than vote, clap and donate. I wish it wasn't the case, but, it is what it is. 

 

 

https://www.volunteeredinburgh.org.uk/

 

If you vote for a party but don't like their greed, mismanagement, lies Etc...

Stop voting for them... 

 

[ri Alban]

13 minutes ago, jumpship said:

https://www.volunteeredinburgh.org.uk/

 

If you vote for a party but don't like their greed, mismanagement, lies Etc...

Stop voting for them... 

 

I did

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

I am sure a few new recruits would be signing up today, just to be as far away from Tynecastle on a match day as possible. 

[Thomaso]

17 hours ago, FruitJuice said:

You ex army?

No just a citizen of this country that is happy to honour the young men  and women who protect our freedom.

What are you??

[FruitJuice]

6 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

No just a citizen of this country that is happy to honour the young men  and women who protect our freedom.

What are you??

The same.  I just don't feel comfortable bringing this sort of stuff into football.  Especially match day. We can we just agree to disagree?  If not, you're lucky I canny fight...

[Thomaso]

2 minutes ago, FruitJuice said:

The same.  I just don't feel comfortable bringing this sort of stuff into football.  Especially match day. We can we just agree to disagree?  If not, you're lucky I canny fight...

Think we’re done now.......TBH my heed is thumping after another shit performance!!! 

[FruitJuice]

1 minute ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

Think we’re done now.......TBH my heed is thumping after another shit performance!!! 

I'm the same.  

[Goonieref]

What a disgrace today we invite the army band to play at half time and that clown announcer plays music blaring out from the tannoy.  They then play the Hearts song and he talks over them ,what a buffoon.  Time for him to go a total embarrassment to the club.

[Fly the Saltire]

It's time Hearts abandoned this Armed Forces Day Farce.  It was a total embarrassment this afternoon.

We had  a band playing tunes no one recognised plus  a stadium announcer playing pop music  and making loud announcements  thus drowning out  the band's best efforts.

Then a upper class English Officer encouraging more cannon fodder from the plebs.

It's  a divisive  total embarrassment  that all socialists  should oppose and as I understand Rangers are the only other club in Scotland to support this nonsense its time we stopped this charade.

As one who has bought  wreathes for November 11th events at Haymarket  and strongly recommends  watching A Game of Two Halves which does not glorify war  I  applaud Hearts efforts to remember the sacrifice many have made but that is very different from encouraging recruitment for armed forces.    

 

 

[Sexton Hardcastle]

Scott Wilson blaring some rotten music over the band summed up the whole day. 
 

Thought the band sounded good from what I could hear.

[been here before]

8 minutes ago, Fly the Saltire said:

It's time Hearts abandoned this Armed Forces Day Farce.  It was a total embarrassment this afternoon.

We had  a band playing tunes no one recognised plus  a stadium announcer playing pop music  and making loud announcements  thus drowning out  the band's best efforts.

Then a upper class English Officer encouraging more cannon fodder from the plebs.

It's  a divisive  total embarrassment  that all socialists  should oppose and as I understand Rangers are the only other club in Scotland to support this nonsense its time we stopped this charade.

As one who has bought  wreathes for November 11th events at Haymarket  and strongly recommends  watching A Game of Two Halves which does not glorify war  I  applaud Hearts efforts to remember the sacrifice many have made but that is very different from encouraging recruitment for armed forces.    

 

 

 

They played Baggy Trousers.

 

Anyhow while you fight a losing battle with your space bar Ill perhaps take a look at the 6 page thread about this in the Shed.

Edited October 5, 2019 by been here before

[McCrae]

13 minutes ago, Fly the Saltire said:

It's time Hearts abandoned this Armed Forces Day Farce.  It was a total embarrassment this afternoon.

We had  a band playing tunes no one recognised plus  a stadium announcer playing pop music  and making loud announcements  thus drowning out  the band's best efforts.

Then a upper class English Officer encouraging more cannon fodder from the plebs.

It's  a divisive  total embarrassment  that all socialists  should oppose and as I understand Rangers are the only other club in Scotland to support this nonsense its time we stopped this charade.

As one who has bought  wreathes for November 11th events at Haymarket  and strongly recommends  watching A Game of Two Halves which does not glorify war  I  applaud Hearts efforts to remember the sacrifice many have made but that is very different from encouraging recruitment for armed forces.    

 

 

The only thing that is embarrassing is your post and the prejudices within it.

 

why do you assume the officer was English and why does it matter?

 

Stop being a racist.

Edited October 5, 2019 by McCrae

[Last Laff]

8 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

They played Baggy Trousers.

 

Anyhow while you fight a losing battle with your space bar Ill perhaps take a look at the 6 page thread about this in the Shed.

 

Hun/Chelsea song. 

[Last Laff]

2 minutes ago, McCrae said:

The only that is embarrassing is your post and the prejudices within it.

 

why do you assume the officer was English and why does it matter?

 

Stop being a racist.

 

Sorry but there’s no such race as English. 

[Fly the Saltire]

t's time Hearts abandoned this Armed Forces Day Farce.  It was a total embarrassment this afternoon.

We had  a band playing tunes no one recognised plus  a stadium announcer playing pop music  and making loud announcements  thus drowning out  the band's best efforts.

Then a upper class English Officer encouraging more cannon fodder from the plebs.

It's  a divisive  total embarrassment  that all socialists  should oppose and as I understand Rangers are the only other club in Scotland to support this nonsense its time we stopped this charade.

As one who has bought  wreathes for November 11th events at Haymarket  and strongly recommends  watching A Game of Two Halves which does not glorify war  I  applaud Hearts efforts to remember the sacrifice many have made but that is very different from encouraging recruitment for armed forces.    

[McCrae]

1 minute ago, Last Laff said:

 

Sorry but there’s no such race as English. 

Whatever 

[3fingersreid]

2 minutes ago, Last Laff said:

 

Hun/Chelsea song. 

Are you not thinking of One Step Beyond ? Either way it’s a Madness song and any Madness song is better than the song he played at half time that was about Hearts but written and sung by a 6 year old by the sound of it . 

I’m sure the band played Hearts of Glory too 

 

 

[Peebo]

Half time was all a bit weird, but more than happy for the club to support and promote this. 

[Last Laff]

1 minute ago, 3fingersreid said:

Are you not thinking of One Step Beyond ? Either way it’s a Madness song and any Madness song is better than the song he played at half time that was about Hearts but written and sung by a 6 year old by the sound of it . 

I’m sure the band played Hearts of Glory too 

 

 

 

Chelsea/Huns have the link with madness for s reason.  Is the same band used when they visit Ibrox incidentally or was this independent of them? I’m not offended by the day or them being st the ground regardless, there’s much more shit going down that people moaning about clapping a few soldiers looking for a free game of football.