Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Whatever said: Bottom of the ****in league. Lucky to have accumulated 2 points. I couldn’t give a shiny shite about Robinson at Oldham, Levein at Leicester or Cathro at Hearts. His race is run. Finished. He should be gone. I stated 8 hours ago that Robinson done nothing for me. That doesn’t mean Levein should spend another day in position. So you're willing to sack a manager with a proven track record based on 5 league games. That's your prerogative. You don\t mind if I don't join you in what I see as a knee jerk reaction (there you go, I've even set you up for a witty response). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: Side issue but I really hate how tabloid papers speculate on a manager's replacements before the manager has even left. Happens down south all the time and just seems really disrespectful. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, Noah Claypole said: The only name on your illustrious list that wasn't turned on is Burley. So, I'll stick with my original point, the cycle will remain. Your post was about how long they got before they were turned on while initial poor results were being blamed on previous manager. are you changing it to something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 10 pages for robbo , only 7 for McCann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Spoleto said: So you're willing to sack a manager with a proven track record based on 5 league games. That's your prerogative. You don\t mind if I don't join you in what I see as a knee jerk reaction (there you go, I've even set you up for a witty response). You can't be talking about Levein.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: 😂😂😂 Had to laugh at that mis type ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spoleto said: So you're willing to sack a manager with a proven track record based on 5 league games. That's your prerogative. You don\t mind if I don't join you in what I see as a knee jerk reaction (there you go, I've even set you up for a witty response). I don’t think anyone is wanting levein sacked due to just the first 5 league games this season. We have been on a downward spiral since October last year and it’s culminated in us being bottom of the league after 5 games. Week after week he says he will fix it and get us moving up the table but he has failed to do this for 11 months and we are currently on the worst run in the history of our club. What makes you think he can turn this round as all available evidence say the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 🥴 Just got an e-mail from Hearts punting a hospitality with Tam Cowan. £25+ VAT to get the pish ripped out of you by a Motherwell fan. Masochists get your tickets now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Are you saying then that you want the next Hearts manager to be installed based on his record in 5 league games? Did you read my post? SR has a substantially better record in the past year (give or take) than CL. It’s not rocket science. JJ and BB didn’t exactly have wonderful records before coming to Hearts and we all know what happened then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: Despite horrendous injuries he finished top 6 last year and took us to a semi and a SC Cup final which we were unlucky not to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Is he? Where did Motherwell finish last season? Who are Motherwell playing in the League Cup? They're above us in the league and they just beat us at home. I can do this too. See how easy it is? Are you saying that CL is doing a better job at Hearts than SR is at Motherwell or are you just playing devil's advocate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Spoleto said: So you're willing to sack a manager with a proven track record based on 5 league games. That's your prerogative. You don\t mind if I don't join you in what I see as a knee jerk reaction (there you go, I've even set you up for a witty response). We’re on a run of results that equals anything as bad in 145 years. No wins in half a calendar year. We haven’t won a game since March. We’ve won about 4 league games in 12 months. Now, had this seasons results (5 of them as you state) been in isolation and not a continuation of what was served last season, I’d be willing to give him longer. It isn’t. Do you see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Russ1977 said: I don’t think anyone is wanting levein sacked due to just the first 5 league games this season. We have been on a downward spiral since October last year and it’s culminated in us being bottom of the league after 5 games. Week after week he says he will fix it and get us moving up the table but he has failed to do this for 11 months and we are currently on the worst run in the history of our club. What makes you think he can turn this round as all available evidence say the exact opposite. Thank you for asking. I'm disregarding last seasons final games. I've said before that due to injuries and trying to save players for the Cup Final I feel they are irrelevant. I was pleased with our efforts in the Cup final and though we were unlucky to lose it. This season has been patchy. I thought we were the better team away to Aberdeen and but for a stupid sending off we would have taken 3 points. I think some of our play this season has been quite exciting but individual errors and lack of form for key players like Berra have cost us dearly. We are still in the League Cup. Injuries continue to plague us, Levein seems to never have had a chance to play the same starting x1 two weeks in a row. However I think when fit we have a good squad of players with a manager with a proven track record. I'm not ready for throwing In the towel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Spoleto said: Thank you for asking. I'm disregarding last seasons final games. I've said before that due to injuries and trying to save players for the Cup Final I feel they are irrelevant. I was pleased with our efforts in the Cup final and though we were unlucky to lose it. This season has been patchy. I thought we were the better team away to Aberdeen and but for a stupid sending off we would have taken 3 points. I think some of our play this season has been quite exciting but individual errors and lack of form for key players like Berra have cost us dearly. We are still in the League Cup. Injuries continue to plague us, Levein seems to never have had a chance to play the same starting x1 two weeks in a row. However I think when fit we have a good squad of players with a manager with a proven track record. I'm not ready for throwing In the towel. A manager with a proven track record of having won absolutely nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Swanny17 said: Did you read my post? SR has a substantially better record in the past year (give or take) than CL. It’s not rocket science. JJ and BB didn’t exactly have wonderful records before coming to Hearts and we all know what happened then. And I'll say again ....... Where did Motherwell finish last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: A manager with a proven track record of having won absolutely nothing Hearts 2017 present 99 41 24 34 41.41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, cosanostra said: They're above us in the league and they just beat us at home. I can do this too. See how easy it is? Are you saying that CL is doing a better job at Hearts than SR is at Motherwell or are you just playing devil's advocate? CL isn't doing better for Hearts than SR is currently doing for Motherwell, that said we are two very different clubs and managing at Motherwell where the only hint of expectation is that you beat and finish above Hamilton is in no way shape or form preparation for the Hearts job where the support (rightly or wrongly) expect you to beat 10 out of the 12 teams in the league and have a right good go at the two we can't get close to financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, David McCaig said: ?? "plummeting to new depths", is what I taken you meant? "plumbing new depths"?...………….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: "plummeting to new depths", is what I taken you meant? "plumbing new depths"?...………….. 🤦🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ribble said: CL isn't doing better for Hearts than SR is currently doing for Motherwell, that said we are two very different clubs and managing at Motherwell where the only hint of expectation is that you beat and finish above Hamilton is in no way shape or form preparation for the Hearts job where the support (rightly or wrongly) expect you to beat 10 out of the 12 teams in the league and have a right good go at the two we can't get close to financially. Agree with all of that. I just don't think the guy would do any worse than CL. Not exactly a glowing endorsement but it's all i have for SR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: "plummeting to new depths", is what I taken you meant? "plumbing new depths"?...………….. Have you seriously never heard the phrase plumbing new depths... Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: "plummeting to new depths", is what I taken you meant? "plumbing new depths"?...………….. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/to-plumb-new-depths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Title should be changed to - Hearts eye nobody. Levein is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, cosanostra said: They're above us in the league and they just beat us at home. I can do this too. See how easy it is? Are you saying that CL is doing a better job at Hearts than SR is at Motherwell or are you just playing devil's advocate? I'm saying that I judge a manager over a season - not 5 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Very good points back and forth on this thread. Shame our fanbase is so split and unless a highly successful manager arrives shortly I can’t see that changing anytime soon. I’ve no idea who is the answer, my pick would be Michael O’Neill although it’s never gonna happen. Robinson and McCann would be hounded out this job and we would be back to square one. The never ending cycle of replacing managers and rebuilding the squad. It’s hard to see any manager being here longer than 2/3 years unless they are meeting fans expectations. When a 60% win ratio manager and a manger who has us possibly heading to Hampden for a 3rd time in less than a year couldn’t keep the fans off their back. I genuinely don’t see who will. Ive always stuck by levein but personally can’t see how he turns things around at this point purely based off the pressure from fans. I also always assumed he would see out this season. I think a commented as much last week, without sounding ITK because I’m not. We all hear things from people, some you believe and some you don’t. I’ve been told that isn’t the case and he will be replaced. Wether that’s as just manager or aswell as DOF or who’s coming in, I’ve no idea. Budge recent comments and statements say otherwise but time will tell, I believe as with neilson, the fans are getting what they want. Edited September 18, 2019 by SuperstarSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, David McCaig said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.collinsdictionary.com/amp/english/to-plumb-new-depths Every day is a school day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Every day is a school day! Sorry if I was a bit grumpy...Ann's statement has me in a very bad mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 18 hours ago, afanderson33 said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4731176/stephen-robinson-hearts-motherwell-target-axe-craig-levein/ hope not. seems like an absolute looney judging by his antics during games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Well Ann’s just crushed that one! No matter what she is NOT sacking her golden boy!! 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Spoleto said: I'm saying that I judge a manager over a season - not 5 games. After the 5-0 defeat at Livingston, the defeat at St Mirren and defeat at home to Dundee he should have gone. Add to that the poor goal scoring record and rank rotten football Levein should be emptied. I could also mention the poor transfer business wasting money that could have been spent on better options. The list is endless the man is a loser and is now dragging the club in the direction of the Championship. Edited September 18, 2019 by Class of 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb102 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Unusual, but it seems that in light of a recent statement directly from Ann Budge that this is absolute pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Seems like this was a pile of shite then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Class of 75 said: After the 5-0 defeat at Livingston, the defeat at St Mirren and defeat at home to Dundee he should have gone. Add to that the poor goal scoring record and rank rotten football Levein should be emptied. I could also mention the poor transfer business wasting money that could have been spent on better options. The list is endless the man is a loser and is now dragging the club in the direction of the Championship. Hearts 2017 present 99 41 24 34 41.41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 An excellent statement from Ann Budge. Time for all supporters to get behind the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, Spoleto said: I'm saying that I judge a manager over a season - not 5 games. Cmon Ann we know it’s you... just come clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Seems like Robinson’s agent has be touting him to the club and then leaked the ‘information’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, jb102 said: Unusual, but it seems that in light of a recent statement directly from Ann Budge that this is absolute pish. Suggests Robinson is interested in the job and his agent could be the source of The Sun story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: "plummeting to new depths", is what I taken you meant? "plumbing new depths"?...………….. What an utter simpleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, Spoleto said: Hearts 2017 present 99 41 24 34 41.41 Mate you can throw all the stats you want the team under him is rank rotten. 4 league wins in 2019 is not a platform for success and would see any other manager emptied a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Spoleto said: An excellent statement from Ann Budge. Time for all supporters to get behind the team Your timing today was/is impeccable, sir ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The bookies. I get it. Yes of course, no harm in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 From the man himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Is that a little bit spit that gathers on his bottom lip? Noticed it a few times. Irritates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 That's Motherwell lost at home again, Anyone still wanting Robinson as manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sagan said: That's Motherwell lost at home again, Anyone still wanting Robinson as manager? Yes, absolutely. The issue is what he could do with greater resources and better players. Don't forget they are still 8 points above us and horsed us lsst week. Alessio at Killie was also getting stick on here from the Levein fan boys before getting over what he, Levein, would describe as a "mini hurdle" and now sits 5 above us after 5. So in short YES, absolutely. If CL loses tomorrow he is finished. No way he will have the cojones to front up at Tynecastle on Wed if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Yes, absolutely. The issue is what he could do with greater resources and better players. Don't forget they are still 8 points above us and horsed us lsst week. Alessio at Killie was also getting stick on here from the Levein fan boys before getting over what he, Levein, would describe as a "mini hurdle" and now sits 5 above us after 5. So in short YES, absolutely. If CL loses tomorrow he is finished. No way he will have the cojones to front up at Tynecastle on Wed if that happens. Similar if not better resources than Ross County i would imagine. I'm not sure he's the answer. Though if that's the sort of level we're looking at, i would be weighing up Gary Holt as a possibility as well. They lost today at home to Aberdeen but he's still got Livi banging above their weight and he seemed pretty angry after defeat, not something you see with levein very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sagan said: Similar if not better resources than Ross County i would imagine. I'm not sure he's the answer. Though if that's the sort of level we're looking at, i would be weighing up Gary Holt as a possibility as well. They lost today at home to Aberdeen but he's still got Livi banging above their weight and he seemed pretty angry after defeat, not something you see with levein very often. Yes, fair enough Sagan . Holt may be a good option too. I would prefer either to Neil Mccann tbh. Not sure what market we will be looking in though. I think Moyes or Warnock would be outwith our budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, Sagan said: That's Motherwell lost at home again, Anyone still wanting Robinson as manager? Nah, if we replace CL it needs to be someone bigger and better than Robinson. Even we've managed to beat them at home during our worst run ever. He should be ruled out on that alone. 😂 I am for replacing CL but not just for the flavour of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Yes, fair enough Sagan . Holt may be a good option too. I would prefer either to Neil Mccann tbh. Not sure what market we will be looking in though. I think Moyes or Warnock would be outwith our budget. Yeah, At least those 2 have shown something, McCann was a bit of a failure. Moyes and Warnock are above our pay packet, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Sagan said: That's Motherwell lost at home again, Anyone still wanting Robinson as manager? Next manager to win 2 games on the trot is next in the frame Sags and Terry Mac, Paulo and Lockey of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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