Jump to content
Section Q

Washington injury.........?

Recommended Posts

Section Q

Anyone know anything.....?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1971fozzy

No idea but looked to me like a hamstring?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hercules

Looked a bad one. Brilliant. That carthorse up front next week. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GorgieFifeLife

Will not be missed. Yet another Hearts striker who cant score goals. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TheBigO

4 weeks out. In 4 weeks, sent to specialist. 8 weeks, rushed on to bench. July, hoping to be back for the League Cup group games.

 

Not itk.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rick witter
Just now, GorgieFifeLife said:

Will not be missed. Yet another Hearts striker who cant score goals. 

He is a better option than Uche but you’re right he just doesn’t seem to know how to score. Great chance again yesterday missed and when you watch him midweek fail to score from one yard out for Northern Ireland then you do worry a bit about his ability to score. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
David McCaig

I'd like to know why he was on the bench?  Hopefully not because he was feeling his hamstring.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Newton51

Not a number nine, more of a support striker. Looks like someone lacking in confidence and even his goal from open play was a rebound from a terrible penalty, hope he wasn’t on the bench cos of a hamstring strain

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1971fozzy
5 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I'd like to know why he was on the bench?  Hopefully not because he was feeling his hamstring.

 

If that was the case (no idea if so) and he has done it in, then I can’t put into words what I think of the management and physio staff.

I can’t believe they would be so stupid............

......oh wait

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
E6 Inc

Folk writing off an international striker who starts up top for a team that will qualify for the next major tournament, managed by a manager who everyone would give their left nut for him to manage us. 

 

🤦‍♂️

Edited by E6 Inc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GorgieFifeLife
12 minutes ago, rick witter said:

He is a better option than Uche but you’re right he just doesn’t seem to know how to score. Great chance again yesterday missed and when you watch him midweek fail to score from one yard out for Northern Ireland then you do worry a bit about his ability to score. 

Has decent movement and runs about a lot but we need a player with finishing ability whose all round game may not be rounded but please just someone to put it in the net.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jamhammer

I thought it might have been his knee. Landed awkwardly. Has hamstring been confirmed anywhere?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Special Agent Dale Cooper

Definitely a hamstring. Source: Craig's interview on Hearts TV, no idea about the severity though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mort

Other reason that we should have signed another striker and yet another striker we are stuck with that doesn’t score goals. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tynecastlesmychurch

In my opinion.

People saying he's not a number 9 is absolute nonsense. We've played to his strengths once this season. Away to Motherwell. And in that game he was fantastic. He's a hard worker that does a lot for his team mates. For me his lack of goals so far is down to the way the management set the team up. No cohesion, no game plan, no team work. 

I really hope it's only a couple of weeks that hes out. I suppose it helps on a personal note that for the next few games at least. Or to be clear until Craig either walks or is given the sack. I'm not really bothered. Feeling so indifferent towards the club right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Section Q

We don't seem to play to anyone's strengths these days....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
richiehmfc
3 minutes ago, Tynecastlesmychurch said:

In my opinion.

People saying he's not a number 9 is absolute nonsense. We've played to his strengths once this season. Away to Motherwell. And in that game he was fantastic. He's a hard worker that does a lot for his team mates. For me his lack of goals so far is down to the way the management set the team up. No cohesion, no game plan, no team work. 

I really hope it's only a couple of weeks that hes out. I suppose it helps on a personal note that for the next few games at least. Or to be clear until Craig either walks or is given the sack. I'm not really bothered. Feeling so indifferent towards the club right now.

Exactly this. He would/will be an excellent signing playing with someone who can pick out his runs (naismith) not hump the ball up the park as we currently do. A change in manager and style would see a new lease of life in a number of our players. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
AndyNic

Tore his hamstring. Out for 4 or 5 months. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
AndyNic

Source: me deciding he's out for 4 or 5 months.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jambof3tornado
10 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

I thought it might have been his knee. Landed awkwardly. Has hamstring been confirmed anywhere?

Not his knee. Clutched his hamstring right away.

 

As mentioned I hope he wasnt nursing a wee strain. If he was keena shoukd have come on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rick witter
3 minutes ago, AndyNic said:

Source: me deciding he's out for 4 or 5 months.

We will be told he has a slight chance of making the next game only to still be wait to see him again 6 weeks from now 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
busby1985

We have a squad of players where the managers approach seems to be “hi son, so

you're left footed and play mainly as a wing back, so am thinking you’ll be great playing as a sitting midfielder”. We don’t play to anyone’s strengths, we play to what Levein thinks could be their strengths. If anyone knows or has spent any time in a professional football environment, will know that players like simplicity. Sean Clare being asked to play right back, Washington/Uche being asked to play off long balls, Trying to make Berra a ball carrying centre back.........the list is endless. Play to their strengths and I bet we’d see a difference. This tinker football has been killing us for years. I couldn’t even tell you the last time we started back to back starting 11’s. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TheBigO
Just now, Jambof3tornado said:

Not his knee. Clutched his hamstring right away.

 

As mentioned I hope he wasnt nursing a wee strain. If he was keena shoukd have come on.

Why else would he be on the bench? If MacLean was simply prefered, i just, well, I, just, I. I want to cry.

 

And if he did have a strain, like Smith and Naismith before him, he shouldnt have been on the bloody bench, and Meshino or Keena or someone else should've started with MacLean MAYBE making the bench.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Snedescu

It’s a bit of a tangent but I assume Aidy White is injured as well?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Russ1977
21 minutes ago, Tynecastlesmychurch said:

In my opinion.

People saying he's not a number 9 is absolute nonsense. We've played to his strengths once this season. Away to Motherwell. And in that game he was fantastic. He's a hard worker that does a lot for his team mates. For me his lack of goals so far is down to the way the management set the team up. No cohesion, no game plan, no team work. 

I really hope it's only a couple of weeks that hes out. I suppose it helps on a personal note that for the next few games at least. Or to be clear until Craig either walks or is given the sack. I'm not really bothered. Feeling so indifferent towards the club right now.

He is a decent player who works hard but to blame the management for his poor finishing isn’t fair. He has had quite a few decent chances this season and so far his finishing has been poor. As a few other have mentioned his finishing for his country the other day was very poor as well so it is a worry if we are going to rely on him to score consistently for us. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Captain Canada

How long until the injuries are put down to 'bad luck' again and used as an excuse?

 

We're just going round in circles here and it's beyond embarrassing now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
EIEIO
48 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

4 weeks out. In 4 weeks, sent to specialist. 8 weeks, rushed on to bench. July, hoping to be back for the League Cup group games.

 

Not itk.

Stranger things have happened.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wavydavy
54 minutes ago, David McCaig said:

I'd like to know why he was on the bench?  Hopefully not because he was feeling his hamstring.

Probably spot on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
132goals1958
23 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

Why else would he be on the bench? If MacLean was simply prefered, i just, well, I, just, I. I want to cry.

 

And if he did have a strain, like Smith and Naismith before him, he shouldnt have been on the bloody bench, and Meshino or Keena or someone else should've started with MacLean MAYBE making the bench.

 

It really annoys me when I hear that someone is fit to take a place on the bench. You are either fit to play or you are not. I am 75 and would happily wander over from the Wheatfield stand

and plant my last verse on the bench 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
portobellojambo1
54 minutes ago, Newton51 said:

Not a number nine, more of a support striker. Looks like someone lacking in confidence and even his goal from open play was a rebound from a terrible penalty, hope he wasn’t on the bench cos of a hamstring strain

 

He played well against Motherwell at Fir Park. That was in the one game this season where the ball was kept on the ground, played through the midfield and there were players moving into wide positions on both sides of the park. The ball was played into him at his feet and he did very well to bring others into play to keep the forward movement going. Like many before him he looks a much poorer player when asked to operate up front on his own, whatever pre match line up and formation is announced (something which is waste of time announcing when it degenerates into a long ball game to 1 man left up front on their own). He won't be the only player wasted when the continued view of success on the touchline appears to be to try and play out goalless draws. One day those on the touchline will work out that the very best form of defence is attack.

Edited by portobellojambo1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tynecastlesmychurch
13 minutes ago, Russ1977 said:

He is a decent player who works hard but to blame the management for his poor finishing isn’t fair. He has had quite a few decent chances this season and so far his finishing has been poor. As a few other have mentioned his finishing for his country the other day was very poor as well so it is a worry if we are going to rely on him to score consistently for us. 

I get your point. And please know I'm not being snarky. However I must point out I wasn't blaming the management for his finishing although I think I'd be well within my rights too as if his finishing needs worked on then doesn't that fall to the management to work on it with him? 

With that being said what I meant was he needs the ball played into his feet. Or played into space for him to run on to. Or even dinked balls over the top for him to run on to. The point is we don't have a style of play. Players don't seem to know what their own jobs are never mind their teamates roles in the team. If we played to Washingtons strengths as we should because he's our main man up top he'd most likely have far more shots at goal. And because of that he'd probably be a lot more prolific too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Marvin
40 minutes ago, rick witter said:

We will be told he has a slight chance of making the next game only to still be wait to see him again 6 weeks from now 

 

That's what I am thinking.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mr Kipling

I was watching on Hearts TV, and Jimmy Sandison and Laurie Dunsyre were saying it is a hamstring injury. Also, not sure if anyone else has noticed but Jake Mulraney appears to be holding his hamstring during the games, as if he has tweaked something. 

 

Hamstrings appear to be a big problem at Hearts at the moment. I'm going to bet my yearly wage that the management, coaches etc have no idea what they are doing. I.e. proper warm ups and warm downs, stretching, nutrition etc etc etc.

Edited by Mr Kipling

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hearts_fan
1 hour ago, Jamhammer said:

I thought it might have been his knee. Landed awkwardly. Has hamstring been confirmed anywhere?

 

From Section S it looked 10,000% like a hamstring.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
karipidis

And people think all these injuries are just a coincidence...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hearts_fan

I'd add, when leaving the field, why on earth was he hobbling at such a pace?? The physio is with him... he's injured and clearly in a great deal of pain causing him to severely limp and hop – get him telt to either slow the hell down, take a lean, or get on a stretcher FFS. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dayman
41 minutes ago, Mr Kipling said:

I was watching on Hearts TV, and Jimmy Sandison and Laurie Dunsyre were saying it is a hamstring injury. Also, not sure if anyone else has noticed but Jake Mulraney appears to be holding his hamstring during the games, as if he has tweaked something. 

 

Hamstrings appear to be a big problem at Hearts at the moment. I'm going to bet my yearly wage that the management, coaches etc have no idea what they are doing. I.e. proper warm ups and warm downs, stretching, nutrition etc etc etc.

“The 27-year-old has a rich pedigree, having spent the past five years at English Premier League side West Ham.

A graduate of Swansea University with a first-class honours degree and masters in sports science, Tom spent five years as a sports scientist with the Hammers before ascending to the position of First-team Fitness Coach in 2015.” - Our Head sport scientists bio. I’m sure he knows a little bit. I’m a strength and conditioning coach that is nowhere near his level and know exactly how to run the fitness side of a football team.

 

I also know how to coach and have f

done for 7+ years.... maybe I should send them my CV

 

Edit: I got distracted from my main point. You don’t get to the SPL never mind the EPL without extensive talent. It’s probably the most competitive job in a football team. There’s hundreds of applicants for one job and each applicant will have the 6 or so years of qualifications and experience. If you’re a coach, you have the option of head coach, 1 of the 2/3 first team coaches, reserve coaches. Under 20s coaches, goalkeeping coaches, and at some teams attack/defense coaches. As a sport scientist there will usually be 1 head sport scientist and an inexperienced assistant. 

 

I do agree though that SOMETHING is going on. The management not listening to the sport scientist and doing their own thing would be my guess ? Levein could be seen as “old school” and when it comes to fitness there has been a lot of change in the last 2 years never mind 20 years. 

Edited by Dayman

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
upgotheheads
1 hour ago, Snedescu said:

It’s a bit of a tangent but I assume Aidy White is injured as well?

 

Just name any hearts player and it a 50/50 bet that you can or can't say he's injured.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
maroonlegions

Just WTF is going on with us signing players  that are made of glass. Every fercking season. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
farin
1 hour ago, Special Agent Dale Cooper said:

Definitely a hamstring. Source: Craig's interview on Hearts TV, no idea about the severity though.

 

Was pretty obvious tbh. He’ll have to have a scan to ascertain the damage. Hopefully not a bad tear or he could be out for a while. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
letsalldothebeattie

Looked very bad when he was coming off. Could hardly put weight down on it 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
braveheart

Just picking off what it's got on Wikipedia say he scored 13 goals in 92 appearances for QPR and zero goals in 15 appearances for Sheffield United. No idea how many of those appearances were from the bench but not exactly prolific. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mr Kipling
15 minutes ago, Dayman said:

“The 27-year-old has a rich pedigree, having spent the past five years at English Premier League side West Ham.

A graduate of Swansea University with a first-class honours degree and masters in sports science, Tom spent five years as a sports scientist with the Hammers before ascending to the position of First-team Fitness Coach in 2015.” - Our Head sport scientists bio. I’m sure he knows a little bit. I’m a strength and conditioning coach that is nowhere near his level and know exactly how to run the fitness side of a football team.

 

I also know how to coach and have f

done for 7+ years.... maybe I should send them my CV

 

Edit: I got distracted from my main point. You don’t get to the SPL never mind the EPL without extensive talent. It’s probably the most competitive job in a football team. There’s hundreds of applicants for one job and each applicant will have the 6 or so years of qualifications and experience. If you’re a coach, you have the option of head coach, 1 of the 2/3 first team coaches, reserve coaches. Under 20s coaches, goalkeeping coaches, and at some teams attack/defense coaches. As a sport scientist there will usually be 1 head sport scientist and an inexperienced assistant. 

 

I do agree though that SOMETHING is going on. The management not listening to the sport scientist and doing their own thing would be my guess ? Levein could be seen as “old school” and when it comes to fitness there has been a lot of change in the last 2 years never mind 20 years. 

Yeah, I know! I'm just getting frustrated by the same things that are happening every week. Hamstring injury, bad tactics, rubbish performance etc. 

 

I agree that CL etc is probably overruling him on a lot of things but it could also be that Tom maybe isn't so good at his job, although it is just a guess and food for thought. All this combined, (CL being old school, bad coaching, overruling Tom etc) will infiltrate into the first team resulting in bad performances. The solution is wholesale changes IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Mort
1 hour ago, Snedescu said:

It’s a bit of a tangent but I assume Aidy White is injured as well?

Still can’t believe we gave him a two year deal. Unreal. Was picking up a salary months before he was even close to fit enough for the first team.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
tian447
1 hour ago, Section Q said:

We don't seem to play to anyone's strengths these days....

 

Apart from Ross County, Hamilton and Motherwell's... :whistling:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
RobboM
34 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said:

I'd add, when leaving the field, why on earth was he hobbling at such a pace?? The physio is with him... he's injured and clearly in a great deal of pain causing him to severely limp and hop – get him telt to either slow the hell down, take a lean, or get on a stretcher FFS. 


I felt the same. Looked a hammy immediately but he's maybe never had one before and didn't realise, even trying to play on.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Newton51
18 minutes ago, Mort said:

Still can’t believe we gave him a two year deal. Unreal. Was picking up a salary months before he was even close to fit enough for the first team.

 

Not sure about this but thought it might be pay as you play contract. If not then more mismanagement 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dayman
46 minutes ago, Mr Kipling said:

Yeah, I know! I'm just getting frustrated by the same things that are happening every week. Hamstring injury, bad tactics, rubbish performance etc. 

 

I agree that CL etc is probably overruling him on a lot of things but it could also be that Tom maybe isn't so good at his job, although it is just a guess and food for thought. All this combined, (CL being old school, bad coaching, overruling Tom etc) will infiltrate into the first team resulting in bad performances. The solution is wholesale changes IMO.

Yeah I totally agree. I do remember when we acquired Tom that it was somewhat of a coup though. It would be strange if he was the issue. 

 

At the end end of the day a sport scientist or s+c coach at the likes of Alloa should be able good enough to ensue we don’t have all these issues. The technology we have available would take a month or two to get used to but it’s incredible. It should make these issues near impossible to have. It’s as if our fitness people haven’t even got their level 2 fitness cert and are purely guessing their way through

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Jambof3tornado
1 hour ago, Mr Kipling said:

I was watching on Hearts TV, and Jimmy Sandison and Laurie Dunsyre were saying it is a hamstring injury. Also, not sure if anyone else has noticed but Jake Mulraney appears to be holding his hamstring during the games, as if he has tweaked something. 

 

Hamstrings appear to be a big problem at Hearts at the moment. I'm going to bet my yearly wage that the management, coaches etc have no idea what they are doing. I.e. proper warm ups and warm downs, stretching, nutrition etc etc etc.

Jake has said himself he feels a tightness in his calfs during games due to the sprint stop start nature of his game. Its nothing to worry about as he can feel it coming on.

 

All the other injuries I'm just not buying into the unlucky chat.

 

Plus the number of players returning only to drop out again very soon after.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Robbo-Jambo
3 hours ago, David McCaig said:

I'd like to know why he was on the bench?  Hopefully not because he was feeling his hamstring.

Very good chance of that. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




×
×
  • Create New...