Hearts_fan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Double post Edited September 17, 2019 by Hearts_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Gambo said: Well done Levein. 3 months. He’ll probably extend his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, CJGJ said: Then rather than think like some poor posters use your brain and think logically If we believe those posters all the medical staff are incompetent, all the training staff are incompetent, all the dieticians and their support teams are incompetent...clear them all out they cry..madness They work out of a top class facility, have been employed at other good sized clubs, are qualified to do their job BUT some posters no better than mystic megs are leading you along like a dog on a leash to their point of view When I buy a house I'll trust the professional to do the electrics rather than some random JKB poster who has no qualification but insists he can do the job telling all and sundry it's easy and the qualified electrician has no idea what he is doing Cursed mate, cursed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nelly Terraces said: BBC reporting Washington out for 3 months apparently. FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. Edited September 17, 2019 by Robbo-Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. The manager is desperate, and it's showing. One calamity to the next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: The manager is desperate, and it's showing. One calamity to the next It smacks of desperation but also of complete ******** stupidness when it happens continually. Wonder of Washington wanted to be on the bench because I know Michael Smith for a fact did not want to start at Parkhead and was told to by our clueless pr*ck of a manager. Now he has done it again !!!!! Is he trying to get the ****** sack and a pay off I am seriously beginning to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 People arguing if its a medical team problem, a training problem or just pure bad luck. No matter what it is you do not play a player who is carrying an injury like Smith and Washington and make it worse. You do not also bring players back before they are ready. ie. Berra and Naismith last season. Its not rocket science ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennant's 6's Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Nelly Terraces said: BBC reporting Washington out for 3 months apparently. Just seen that , Jesus, it never ends. Can this still be viewed as purely bad luck, or sheer incompetence of some sort. Time for Keena or Curry, or heaven forbid, Wighton, to step up. Christ.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Guarantee Mulraney (who to be honest wont be missed as he is pish) or Naismith will be the next long term muscle injury. Mulraney has been holding his hamstring in the last two matches and Naismith is being rushed back as we are desperately needing him in the team. Watch this space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Tennant's 6's said: Just seen that , Jesus, it never ends. Can this still be viewed as purely bad luck, or sheer incompetence of some sort. Time for Keena or Curry, or heaven forbid, Wighton, to step up. Christ.. Wightons still injured 🙄🙄 Probably a blessing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tennant's 6's said: Just seen that , Jesus, it never ends. Can this still be viewed as purely bad luck, or sheer incompetence of some sort. Time for Keena or Curry, or heaven forbid, Wighton, to step up. Christ.. If it is true that Washington had a tight hamstring before the match then that rules out bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, amadjambo said: If it is true that Washington had a tight hamstring before the match then that rules out bad luck. No idea if it is true, but if anyone still thinks it is simply bad luck, then I am afraid they are deluded, or have their head in the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, amadjambo said: If it is true that Washington had a tight hamstring before the match then that rules out bad luck. It is getting to the stage now where it is basically impossible to put it all down to bad luck. Is it down to anything that is happening up at Riccarton, I'm not convinced by that. I do think players are being played when they shouldn't be and being rushed back in too early. That, despite the number of signings made, could suggest that outwith what is deemed to be the starting 1st eleven (difficult to determine I admit, given the constant changes in personnel and playing positions/style) there is limited options within the squad. Edited September 17, 2019 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. But Mr Levein said McLean started because Uche was desperate to play and he always plays better with he old man alongside him. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 This season is an absolute bust already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 We shouldn't be risking players like this instead we should be giving young players a chance. I can see the point in loaning out young prospects to give them game time but we seem to loan out the ones that should be first in line to step in when experienced players are not match fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: People arguing if its a medical team problem, a training problem or just pure bad luck. No matter what it is you do not play a player who is carrying an injury like Smith and Washington and make it worse. You do not also bring players back before they are ready. ie. Berra and Naismith last season. Its not rocket science ffs. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. stick on that Jake does his hamstring on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 How many points have we picked up thanks to playing someone who isn't fully fit ? How many months have players missed due to playing when fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, portobellojambo1 said: It is getting to the stage now where it is basically impossible to put it all down to bad luck. Is it down to anything that is happening up at Riccarton, I'm not convinced by that. I do think players are being played when they shouldn't be and being rushed back in too early. That, despite the number of signings made, could suggest that outwith what is deemed to be the starting 1st eleven (difficult to determine I admit, given the constant changes in personnel and playing positions/style) there is limited options within the squad. All very true. The players we are playing with injuries or coming back too early does seem ridiculous. The thing I don't get is why can't we learn from it instead of doing the same thing again and again and players are breaking down or aggravating their injuries. Why keep risking it and it backfiring on us continually. It makes no sense and is smacking more and more of desperation like throwing a dice in a casino with your eyes closed and hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Aw for actual effing effs sake. Misery after misery at the moment. So of our summer signings, Walker, Pareira and Washington all goosed. Scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 What the hell were the NI coaches and Michael O'Neill doing in training?????!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. Reeks of desperation in trying to get a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: All very true. The players we are playing with injuries or coming back too early does seem ridiculous. The thing I don't get is why can't we learn from it instead of doing the same thing again and again and players are breaking down or aggravating their injuries. Why keep risking it and it backfiring on us continually. It makes no sense and is smacking more and more of desperation like throwing a dice in a casino with your eyes closed and hoping for the best. There could be other reasons but the one conclusion you can easily draw is that there is a lack of confidence and/or ability in the potential replacements. It could be a lack of depth in the squad and/or a lack of confidence in players based up at Riccarton being either ready or able to step in when required. It is more noticeable to us I guess as we are watching HMFC every week, so I have no idea what other clubs do in such situations and what sort of back ups they have in place. Edited September 17, 2019 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Tennant's 6's said: Just seen that , Jesus, it never ends. Can this still be viewed as purely bad luck, or sheer incompetence of some sort. Time for Keena or Curry, or heaven forbid, Wighton, to step up. Christ.. Not Wighton. Just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 There is clearly a systematic issue somewhere. It’s impossible it’s just “bad luck”. Part of it is definitely CL putting in players when he shouldn’t. WHAT. A. MESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 There's NFL teams don't have this many injuries. Something isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Wonder who the next player out injured will be.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Someone posted earlier we're averaging more than one serious injury per game this season, so no doubt someone will be affected, although hopefully not! I really hope we don't risk Smith or Naismith after them being out for a while. It seems pointless having a squad and not trusting the fringe players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Its the levein hex everyone....the bloke is not only hapless but a ****ing hoodoo on his players in one form or another. im nearly weeping at this juncture,a support that has put so much into the club in the recent past does not deserve this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. It's the symptom of the cause. Make a poor decision to try & rectify several other poor ones. Dreadful mismanagement from those in charge. Think it's what's termed in common parlance 'An Utter Cluster***k' A bit like the entire club at the moment really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: FFS This is ridiculous. Apparently his hamstring was a bit tight that was why MacLean started. Exact same scenario as with Michael Smith but the outcome is even worse. WTF is wrong with this club that they cant learn a lesson. Beyond belief how dense and thick they are coming across as with regard to injuries. Lets just risk him eh, even though he could be out for 3 months. It's the symptom of the cause. Make a poor decision to try & rectify several other poor ones. Dreadful mismanagement from those in charge. Think it's what's termed in common parlance 'An Utter Cluster***k' A bit like the entire club at the moment really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: Someone posted earlier we're averaging more than one serious injury per game this season, so no doubt someone will be affected, although hopefully not! I really hope we don't risk Smith or Naismith after them being out for a while. It seems pointless having a squad and not trusting the fringe players. I was thinking something similar today. With the position both clubs are in at the moment my thoughts were Sunday probably isn't the best time to be bringing back anyone just recovering from injury. While I think the game probably is destined to finish 0-0 and I'd like to see us put out a team to win I also have a feeling it has the potential to get a bit rough and tumble and risking both is a major risk if we lose either/both of them again through injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: I was thinking something similar today. With the position both clubs are in at the moment my thoughts were Sunday probably isn't the best time to be bringing back anyone just recovering from injury. While I think the game probably is destined to finish 0-0 and I'd like to see us put out a team to win I also have a feeling it has the potential to get a bit rough and tumble and risking both is a major risk if we lose either/both of them again through injury. There is a good chance of him taking another risky decision on Sunday imo. Michael Smith will start I think and Naismith will at the very least be on the bench, if not starting. He is a desperate man who is clutching at straws and prepared to gamble with those two although it could result in another Washington type scenario and cause more long term injuries for the sake of the 2 next games. It's a shambolic state of affairs tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 More bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothump Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 You get to thinking, players would rather be "injured", than play in the teams, this manager sets up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Jambothump said: You get to thinking, players would rather be "injured", than play in the teams, this manager sets up ? Not sure you can fake a hamstring tear or broken leg really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said: Uche and MacLean up front again on Sunday then. Great. Probably the most ineffectual strike strike partnership in world football. Combined to score last time at Hibs to be fair - McLean improved us when we came on also. Edited September 18, 2019 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Jambothump said: You get to thinking, players would rather be "injured", than play in the teams, this manager sets up ? Lol - I don’t think Washington could con a hamstring injury that has been scanned to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Combined to score last time at Hibs to be fair - McLean improved us when we came on also. While that is true, I’m more concerned with how they performed in their last game for Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Dunphy said: While that is true, I’m more concerned with how they performed in their last game for Hearts. Uche scored. He also was the architect of the chance Clare had which has managed to grow into a social media debate on another thread. Big man can be a match winner. Our problems are not up front. The goals we are conceding are school boy errors. It's shocking to see the goals we are giving teams these days. If we didn't concede so many shite goals we probably wouldn't be hounding levein out the door because we score plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 “We have a football department that is second to none” oh yes Ann you can say that again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, Bauld said: Uche scored. He also was the architect of the chance Clare had which has managed to grow into a social media debate on another thread. Big man can be a match winner. Our problems are not up front. The goals we are conceding are school boy errors. It's shocking to see the goals we are giving teams these days. If we didn't concede so many shite goals we probably wouldn't be hounding levein out the door because we score plenty. He also created Motherwells 2nd goal. No-one would be more delighted than me if he scored the winner on Sunday, I’m just more realistic about his chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 17/09/2019 at 14:18, NaturalOrder74 said: Its all fallen to shit since we pushed Neilson away and who was to blame for that? No doubt Levein according to the multitude of numpties on this forum!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Combined to score last time at Hibs to be fair - McLean improved us when we came on also. McLean should have never got a 2 year deal. He done ok at the start of last season when we started really well but since then he has been shite imo. He does not work hard enough for me and thinks he is better than he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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