The Treasurer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Mort said: Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. You do understand how the loan system works ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Disco Ball said: Maybe he wants to be an involved parent .... his missus has moved back south ffs We should have done our due diligence then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Mort said: Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. We didn’t want rid of him, he wanted to move back down south. CL said he would still be a squad player if no one came in for him. If we wanted him to go his contract would have been terminated. We wanted a fee for him, that why he’s went on loan because Gillingham (and Southend) don’t want to put up the fee we’re asking for. Seems a good passer of the ball and can hit a shot but I’ve said it for month, the Scottish game is too fast paced for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: You do understand how the loan system works ? Very much so and in this case, I fail to see how it really benefits us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, indianajones said: Means we don't get to hear that song ever again. Excellent. He's back across the border To join a smaller team His wife she hated Scotland He hated Craig Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mort said: Very much so and in this case, I fail to see how it really benefits us. A player who won't get much (if any) game time, off the wage bill, but still under contract so it's possible we will get a fee for him further down the line. Sounds like a decent outcome for us for a player we signed for nothing a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Armageddon said: He's back across the border To join a smaller team His wife she hated Scotland He hated Craig Levein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Does this mean Gary Naysmith will have to go down to Gillingham to watch him play? He’ll be looking forward to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, GorgieFifeLife said: He will end up at League 1 playing against players far superior to what he will face most of the time in Scotland. He looked slow and ponderous because our movement is awful and he was attempting to keep the ball rather than lumping it under pressure. I think our English based posters would disagree with your views on League one English football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, luckydug said: I think our English based posters would disagree with your views on League one English football. I've tried to get him to explain his reasoning but he seems to be ignoring me. He does watch the highlights on Quest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Any player that mouths off about the club/manager at an official function should be prepared to pack his bags. For the player who had lost appearances last season to loan anout lack of game time reeks of someone trying to work their way out of the club for whatever reason. Given that so many others have extended their contracts it’s probably because he is a knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I've seen a lot of people on social media wishing Olly was back in the starting 11. I'm not sure if they are completely clueless or things just really are that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Sagan said: I've seen a lot of people on social media wishing Olly was back in the starting 11. I'm not sure if they are completely clueless or things just really are that bad. Completely clueless revisionism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Mort said: Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. Where did you learn we are getting rid of him for no fee? He's going on loan not being transferred permanently. If eventually he does go for nowt that is the amount we paid for him so no financial loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 What has he said about Levein ? I've never heard of any fall out between the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl1965 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Good luck to him. Seems a decent lad. Never really coped with the pace of the game unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Once you fall out with CL then your days are numbered. The wife not liking Scotland was convenient He didn’t fall out with Levein tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Sagan said: I've seen a lot of people on social media wishing Olly was back in the starting 11. I'm not sure if they are completely clueless or things just really are that bad. I genuinely would have no problem with Lee starting ahead of Sean Flair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: I genuinely would have no problem with Lee starting ahead of Sean Flair. Nut, not for me. He was living off that goal against hibs. The rest of the time he was mostly anonymous. It is a closer call than i'd like to think though. Doesn't say much for Claire. Edited August 29, 2019 by Sagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Sagan said: Nut, not for me. He was living off that goal against hibs. The rest of the time he was mostly anonymous. 6 goals and 12 assists from midfield kinda suggests he wasn’t living off 1 goal at ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Lee contributed more goals and assists combined than anyone last season. He also had more goals than assists than Milinkovic for example. Folk are glad Lee is gone, some of the same folk want Milinkovic to come back. Fitbaw fans, eh? Good luck to the lad. He'll be replaced, a decent player but we can do better. Edited August 29, 2019 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: Lee contributed more goals and assists combined than anyone last season. He also had more goals than assists than Milinkovic for example. Folk are glad Lee is gone, some of the same folk want Milinkovic to come back. Fitbaw fans, eh? Good luck to the lad. He'll be replaced, a decent player but we can do better. Yeah, the stats don't lie, or do they? He just wasn't for me, I didn't see enough from him, he seemed to crawl into his cave a lot of the time. He was no Ryan Stevenson lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Lee made 41 appearances in maroon last season, scoring six goals and claiming 12 assists, but became frustrated after dropping out of the starting line-up in the second half of the campaign. He wasn't an excellent all rounder for us but 12 assists and 6 goals? I challenge any of our current midfielders to better that this season. I think we will miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bauld said: Lee made 41 appearances in maroon last season, scoring six goals and claiming 12 assists, but became frustrated after dropping out of the starting line-up in the second half of the campaign. He wasn't an excellent all rounder for us but 12 assists and 6 goals? I challenge any of our current midfielders to better that this season. I think we will miss him. Those are very good stats, considering first season and acclimatising to the frantic nature of Scottish football I'd say he did pretty well (although I do feel overall he was lacking, too slow). Shame really. Hope we can try and get something for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The hate for Levein is so bad that he gets ripped for such a big squad, yet when we trim it he gets doubly ripped! Another example of a zero win situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 He’ll get better every game he doesn’t play for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Whoever is last to leave is better than Sean Clare and should be in the team ahead of him. It was zanatta, now it's Lee. Who will be next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Olly Lee wasn’t very good. He was last seasons Tony Watt. Everyone who didn’t understand football thought he was absolutely brilliant, meanwhile people who actually understood the game could spot he was crap from the beginning. Good luck Olly but I’m glad you’re gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Jamhammer said: He’ll get better every game he doesn’t play for us so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 17 hours ago, DG_HMFC said: All these things should be considered before signing a contract then. I am sure he discussed the move with his wife at length and they considered they could settle in our lovely City ... but sadly for him they didnt. The 1 hour flying home once a week doesnt work for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 16 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: We should have done our due diligence then Dont think our due diligence stretches to whether a players family relationship is strong enough to cope with a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 51 minutes ago, Arnaud Djoum said: Olly Lee wasn’t very good. He was last seasons Tony Watt. Everyone who didn’t understand football thought he was absolutely brilliant, meanwhile people who actually understood the game could spot he was crap from the beginning. Good luck Olly but I’m glad you’re gone. Which camp were you in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, farin said: All the best to him, he’ll be quickly forgotten about tbh. Agree. apart from the song and his goal at Fester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 17 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: We should have done our due diligence then Can you explain what you mean by "due diligence" in this case/context. Are you saying we should have known or been able to work out that his wife would not settle in Scotland, or are you saying we should not sign players outside of Scotland in case they or their wives don't settle here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheile Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Lee contributed more goals and assists combined than anyone last season. He also had more goals than assists than Milinkovic for example. Folk are glad Lee is gone, some of the same folk want Milinkovic to come back. Fitbaw fans, eh? Good luck to the lad. He'll be replaced, a decent player but we can do better. Perfectly and rationally summed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Luton Town fan getting above their station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Couple of games in the championship and they think they're big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Disco Ball said: Dont think our due diligence stretches to whether a players family relationship is strong enough to cope with a move Probably not given how amateur we are but a lot of clubs pay close attention to the issue of how well a player is likely to settle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Disco Ball said: Dont think our due diligence stretches to whether a players family relationship is strong enough to cope with a move or more likely, everyone is ok with a move then folk change their mind once they move. This place is mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Probably not given how amateur we are but a lot of clubs pay close attention to the issue of how well a player is likely to settle Do you think it should and how do we put this into practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Probably not given how amateur we are but a lot of clubs pay close attention to the issue of how well a player is likely to settle "Given how amateur we are" ... would love to know what non amateur clubs obtain as personal background information, and still manage to sell themselves as an attractive club to join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) Scored twice on his debut for Gillingham Edited August 31, 2019 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Scored twice on his debut for Gillingham Against Bolton who have no players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, indianajones said: Against Bolton who have no players... Do they not count ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Bolton have let in 5 goals in each of the last 4 league games they've played. Hard to judge anything or anybody when playing them this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 goals and an MoM on his debut at Gillingham. Annoying on a day like today. Ryan Edwards scored for Burton too I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Dalstonjambo said: 2 goals and an MoM on his debut at Gillingham. Annoying on a day like today. Ryan Edwards scored for Burton too I see. Neither were good enough for us and don’t think they would improve us now. If you could merge Edwards engine with Lee’s ability then you would have a top player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 All we need is a vanecek goal and today is a real shitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: Neither were good enough for us and don’t think they would improve us now. If you could merge Edwards engine with Lee’s ability then you would have a top player. Perhaps neither were good enough, but others who are less good enough (certainly in the case of Lee) for us started today in positions in the team that they otherwise could have filled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, TheStig said: All we need is a vanecek goal and today is a real shitter Its a real shitter then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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