Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Once you fall out with CL then your days are numbered. The wife not liking Scotland was convenient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. Yeah I know. Boooooooo. F*****g booooooo! I demand a sliding door, perhaps French windows. Good luck, Olly. Thanks for the Hibs goal and the semi final display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. He's still got two years left on his contact so I'd imagine a loan might suit all as we'd obviously not cancel his contact and Gillingham might not be able to afford a fee. If they cover most of his wages then we should be able to replace him no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thanks for the winner against hibs 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Clearly had a disagreement with CL and off he goes. One player who I felt could make something happen in games. Good luck olly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, TheBigO said: Yeah I know. Boooooooo. F*****g booooooo! I demand a sliding door, perhaps French windows. Good luck, Olly. Thanks for the Hibs goal and the semi final display Really weird comment. Was highlighting the fact that the squad changes a bit too frequently in my opinion and we really don't put up much of a fight when it comes to offloading players for cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 He's pish, no big loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Let him go with a 50% sell on fee, get him off the wage bill and use his wages to sign Skinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Will free up some money, he will be one of our highest earners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 No longer have to listen to his song on repeat too. Today is a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, cosanostra said: Let him go with a 50% sell on fee, get him off the wage bill and use his wages to sign Skinny. If only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I liked him and his scouse brow. Best of luck to him. Not a dud, but we also must do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. Because we want them to leave and this of greater use than the £30,000 we’d maybe get for Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Clearly had a disagreement with CL and off he goes. One player who I felt could make something happen in games. Good luck olly. He hasnt his family cant settle its been made clear for a while. And i thought he generally contributed little apart from the occasional delivery of a dead ball but all about opinions. Edited August 29, 2019 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, Mort said: Really weird comment. Was highlighting the fact that the squad changes a bit too frequently in my opinion and we really don't put up much of a fight when it comes to offloading players for cash. And everything n here has to have a negative edge, right. I don't tend to get involved. Thing is though, every team in the world signs players with all levels of success rate. Teams in our market tend to have a massive turnover of players every year. Look at the other comings and goings at other Scottish clubs and many lower div English too. Not getting dosh for players... well who wanted to pay for Olly? So should we keep someone who doesn't want to be here, who we don't particularly want and continue to pay him? Happens to bigger and apparently cleverer clubs than us. Look at Sanchez, look at Bale, look at Courtois, Koscielny. Not everything is the clubs fault. And also we've done OK at getting fees for players. Guys like Rossi & Sow, we did amazingly to get good deals for. These are football problems, not Hearts problems. Olly is gone, we have Whelan and Damour. It's good business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. He didn't cost us anything and gets him off the wage bill. Makes sense. Not a big fan of him, although I think he's better than Clare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Because we want them to leave and this of greater use than the £30,000 we’d maybe get for Lee. Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. Because that’s how football at this level works. It’s not hard to get your head round. The usual idiots spouting their bile on social media as per. ”wheRz the muny fur LeE. GTF leveIn !!11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenks Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Clearly had a disagreement with CL and off he goes. One player who I felt could make something happen in games. Good luck olly. Looking too much into it. It's not clear at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Clearly had a disagreement with CL and off he goes. One player who I felt could make something happen in games. Good luck olly. Anything to suggest this? I thought it was pretty common knowledge the family (primarily his wife) hadn't settled? And we weren't standing in his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, TheBigO said: And everything n here has to have a negative edge, right. I don't tend to get involved. Thing is though, every team in the world signs players with all levels of success rate. Teams in our market tend to have a massive turnover of players every year. Look at the other comings and goings at other Scottish clubs and many lower div English too. Not getting dosh for players... well who wanted to pay for Olly? So should we keep someone who doesn't want to be here, who we don't particularly want and continue to pay him? Happens to bigger and apparently cleverer clubs than us. Look at Sanchez, look at Bale, look at Courtois, Koscielny. Not everything is the clubs fault. And also we've done OK at getting fees for players. Guys like Rossi & Sow, we did amazingly to get good deals for. These are football problems, not Hearts problems. Olly is gone, we have Whelan and Damour. It's good business. Fair enough. 👍 Personally feel the turnover of the squad is slightly alarming but that's what i was alluding to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mort said: Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. He's not good enough for a fee. We have better options now and both Lee and hearts will be happy about the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Dalstonjambo said: Anything to suggest this? I thought it was pretty common knowledge the family (primarily his wife) hadn't settled? And we weren't standing in his way. They had a fall out about game time and him getting dropped. This was before his injury... Source - the horses mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Because that’s how football at this level works. It’s not hard to get your head round. The usual idiots spouting their bile on social media as per. ”wheRz the muny fur LeE. GTF leveIn !!11 Mature response. Felt we could have got a fee for someone who contributed a decent goals/assists ratio last year. Not sure what "bile" you are referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: They had a fall out about game time and him getting dropped. This was before his injury... Source - the horses mouth Fair enough - wasn't aware of it and hadn't heard anything, but a lot about the family stuff. Fair enough. As someone that lives down here, i find it quite amusing that she is home sick whilst in Edinburgh, and moving to Gillingham will solve it. Not many nice areas round there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Means we don't get to hear that song ever again. Excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Goodluck to the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: He hasnt his family cant settle its been made clear for a while. And i thought he generally contributed little apart from the occasional delivery of a dead ball but all about opinions. This but don't let facts get in the way of the agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Good luck to him. We'll miss his set piece delivery but I think we now have better all round players in midfield than what he offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: He's not good enough for a fee. We have better options now and both Lee and hearts will be happy about the move. Fair enough, it remains to be seen if we have better options. I would certainly argue he's miles better than Bozanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. If he's going out on loan we aren't letting him go without a fee though? He's still under contract with us for next season so if he performs well at Gillingham this season we could quite reasonably ask them to pony up to sign him permanently or some other team may become interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Because we want them to leave and this of greater use than the £30,000 we’d maybe get for Lee. What £30k? He has been available for months now and, apart from Southend, no one seems to have been willing to pay £30 for him, let alone £30k. Can you back up your cynicism with links to your £30k or do you agree you post negative tripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mort said: Mature response. Felt we could have got a fee for someone who contributed a decent goals/assists ratio last year. Not sure what "bile" you are referring to. Did he though? The fact he wasn’t getting game time shows he’s not maybe at this level and lower league England suits him. His derby winner won me a small fortune so I’ll wish him the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Disappointing. A skilful player who would still add a different dimension to our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, TheStig said: He's pish, no big loss. Not a fan then, good luck to him at his new club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Just now, Harry Potter said: Not a fan then, good luck to him at his new club. He had the odd good performance here and there but felt he was a passenger most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Did he though? The fact he wasn’t getting game time shows he’s not maybe at this level and lower league England suits him. His derby winner won me a small fortune so I’ll wish him the best. I think 6 goals and 12 assists is a good return for a CM. I would be delighted if anyone gets more than 12 assists this year from any position. Not meaning to go back and forth debating on the topic, just feel he had more to contribute this year so slightly sad to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 That's fine, sideways step for him career wise He favours the backwards pass too much in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: He hasnt his family cant settle its been made clear for a while. And i thought he generally contributed little apart from the occasional delivery of a dead ball but all about opinions. He actually has had a row. He mouthed off about Levein at a player/fan function and didn't hold back. Obviously Levein got to hear about it through the grapevine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Not the best, not the worst. Certainly not the standard we're hoping or aiming for. Good luck, and thanks for a great goal at Easter Rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheStig said: He had the odd good performance here and there but felt he was a passenger most of the time. I thought he was a tad slow bud, anyway, onwards and upwards. Lets get a win on saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, TheStig said: No longer have to listen to his song on repeat too. Today is a good day. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, indianajones said: Means we don't get to hear that song ever again. Excellent. A popular, positive, song about a player that the majority of the fans enjoyed singing? Yeah,. who needs that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Good luck to him. Decent at corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 33 minutes ago, Mort said: Given he played 41 times last year, scoring 6 goals and provided 12 assists, it seems strange that we suddenly just want rid of him for no fee. We do want a fee for him, that’s why we haven’t just released him. Nobody wants to pay a fee for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 A player is only worth whatever a team is willing to pay for them, and that applies at all levels. We appear to be fairly easy to deal with in terms of letting players go if they don’t want to be here so the fact no one has stumped up with whatever fee we’d be demanding is telling. As someone has pointed out above Lee is under contract for another 2 years, so hopefully he does well at Gillingham next season and attracts interest from a number of clubs so we can perhaps gain a decent return. One things for sure I don’t think we’ll see him in a Hearts top again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mort said: Really weird comment. Was highlighting the fact that the squad changes a bit too frequently in my opinion and we really don't put up much of a fight when it comes to offloading players for cash. You’ve a point. While I accept many factors can influence whether a player is successful or not, we’ve struggled to settle the bulk of a squad over the last while to enable work at improving and finding a groove. This can certainly point to poor recruitment. If players aren’t good enough then there’s only one thing you can do though and this brings the cycle of too many changes. Hopefully hit the jackpot soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Good luck to him. Wanted him to be so good but he plays at snail's pace and slowed us down even more if that is possible. Southend were not even paying all his wages so we could still be paying him during this deal as all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mort said: On loan. Revolving door of Tynecastle continues. Not sure why we let players go without fees so often. Maybe they can't afford a fee? At least he'll be off the wage bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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