thehibsareintheirbeds Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Retaking that penalty was just nonsense...90% of pens have goalies of line...so harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt 1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Football with VAR is just unwatchable. Awful. I would seriously consider giving up football if its introduced in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leith_dude Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Scotland blew it but the penalty retake decision was harsh and there should have been another 10 minutes of time. The ref was horrendous though. Really really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sarah O said: That was a great game. It was. It was an amazing game. Scotland just need a few more decent players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It may produce "the right decision" but VAR is killing football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Folk greeting about VAR as if it's to blame. ? The correct decisions were made going by the rules of the game. They were? I thought the rules of the game were 90 minutes plus additional time...not 88 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 As the lassie is saying just now, the ref let the free kick that led to pen be taken as Scotland were making a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tenor said: What a weird comment... Why? I've enjoyed pretty much every game so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: As harsh as it seems I think VAR got that right, it was a penalty and by the letter of the, shit that it is, law she shouldn’t have jumped a foot off her line. The scandal was the lack of injury time, either the referee didn’t know the rules about adding the time on or just lost the plot. She wasn’t a great advert for the women’s game. I still don't think both feet were completely ahead of the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The lack of added time too, quite incredible The penalty VAR claim began at 86:07 The penalty was finally scored after a retake on 93:18 Ref blows for full time on 95:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: As harsh as it seems I think VAR got that right, it was a penalty and by the letter of the, shit that it is, law she shouldn’t have jumped a foot off her line. The scandal was the lack of injury time, either the referee didn’t know the rules about adding the time on or just lost the plot. She wasn’t a great advert for the women’s game. Womens football is poor full stop, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, BarneyBattles said: Not disagreeing that The decisions were correct, hence why I said I don’t like when teams get beat by incorrect decisions. Main gripe is lack of added on time. That was crazy. Surely off field officials should also tell the ref how much time to add on. WE have taken the crucial decisions out of the referee.s hands, but have left the referee to get the simplest item of timekeeping totally wrong. We can give VAR the highest levels of technology' but not a watch?? Farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Gambo said: As the lassie is saying just now, the ref let the free kick that led to pen be taken as Scotland were making a sub. And there was a clear foul in midfield in the lead up to the first Argie goal. That referee set out to get a job in Scottish football and she is the clear favourite for the Premiership now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Should have taken Mitchell from Arsenal as a full back, but we stuck with what we had. Manager must go as it was her total failure to replace defenders who were awful the whole game until it was far too late. On a separate matter, Smith should never play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Well pink doesn't work. Perhaps we should try green and white hoops next time? That was ridiculous, but our defence is utterly rubbish and so is the coach. Why did she not put fresh legs on after the first goal conceded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Scotland management decisions not even being called into question. I find that weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 How many penalties are re taken in the men's game when the goalie is off the line and saves it. Virtually none. Absolute disgraceful referee and what happened to the injury time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 and a half minutes from play being stopped to the 1st pen being taken. Another 3 minutes until the re-take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Never a dull moment with Scotland in tournament finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: They were? I thought the rules of the game were 90 minutes plus additional time...not 88 minutes? VAR didn't make any decisions about the extra time to be applied, that's all on the ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Robbo-Jambo said: How many penalties are re taken in the men's game when the goalie is off the line and saves it. Virtually none. Absolute disgraceful referee and what happened to the injury time. But this is how FIFA are going to implement the rule in the men's game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Wouldn’t surprise me if the ref is now thinking “****, I forgot to play injury time”. Wasn’t even the odd minute, she was at least 5 mins short. She won’t ref in this tournament again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 WTF just happened? We were 3 up last time I looked on. Not seen Argentina's first two goals but bugger me that VAR/retake episode was harsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Ray Gin said: VAR didn't make any decisions about the extra time to be applied, that's all on the ref. So the rules on the game weren't correctly applied as you said...the ref was all over the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: VAR didn't make any decisions about the extra time to be applied, that's all on the ref. But why? They have taken every other important decision away from the ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 So sooooo Scotland. I cant bring myself to say hard lines anymore it’s just par for the course we blow shit like this all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Taffin said: So the rules on the game weren't correctly applied as you said...the ref was all over the shop. I was referring to the ones applied by VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 All the focus will be on VAR and the fact that the useless ****ers put themselves in the position where VAR could have an influence will be completely forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Move onto what mate? It’s the World Cup There are other games. You do know that. Scotland are building. 4/5 players needed to come through and it's a good team. Better than first men's world cup performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Lots of the refs have looked out of their depths under the watch of cameras etc, VAR seriously needs tweaked (more so the human side of it) and explained better as its taking over from the game as talking points which is not what it's for. For Scotland the strengths and weaknesses have shown through out the tournament, but it's fair to say the refs and var hasn't been our friend, it disappeared for much of the Japan game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Folk greeting about VAR as if it's to blame. ? The correct decisions were made going by the rules of the game. What about the timing though? Decisions are being scrutinised and analyses based on millimetres and yet we don’t know how long the game is lasting? Should have been 10 extra minutes and it cost both teams the chance to qualify. Its all all very well in a “lesser” tournament but imagine that in the men’s tournament? Carnage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gambo said: As the lassie is saying just now, the ref let the free kick that led to pen be taken as Scotland were making a sub. North Korean, says Thought that was wrong, the TV showed the Scottish sub coming on and when the shot changed back to the pitch the free-kick had already been taken! The ref was North Korean, wonder what sort of international experience she has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: There are other games. You do know that. Scotland are building. 4/5 players needed to come through and it's a good team. Better than first men's world cup performance. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: But this is how FIFA are going to implement the rule in the men's game too. Ffs every penalty will be retaken then. The goalie is nearly always slightly off the line when the ball is struck. Least we might score a few more pens though on the brightside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gambo said: As the lassie is saying just now, the ref let the free kick that led to pen be taken as Scotland were making a sub. Correct. When you watch it back the ref blows the whistle for the free kick to be taken before the sub has even entered the field of play. You can see the Argentine player taking the free kick in the background here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Horrible way to go out but if any team can blow a 3 goal lead Scotland can. Smith was the weakest link - absolute bombscare she is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jambokev Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Folk greeting about VAR as if it's to blame. ? The correct decisions were made going by the rules of the game. Why did they not use VAR in Japan game when Scotland could have had two pens and won the game then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecjambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: VAR didn't make any decisions about the extra time to be applied, that's all on the ref. Is the 4th official not supposed to help with time keeping. Either way it was a cock up. My view is if we’re turning to VAR for decisions it needs to be all or nothing. Why isn’t one of those VAR officials keeping a proper account of time to be added on? What happens if a goal comes from a throw in that should’ve been given to the other team, or a free kick that wasn’t a free kick? Will that be reviewed? I’d be raging if I was in the stadium without a clue what was going on as they take 10mins for a decision to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Wouldn’t surprise me if the ref is now thinking “****, I forgot to play injury time”. Wasn’t even the odd minute, she was at least 5 mins short. She won’t ref in this tournament again. She lost the plot at the end tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Ronnie Biggs and his cronies would have been pleased with that performance. Can only assume Platini had a few bob on a score draw. Was enjoying this tournament but after that, um out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Central Belt 1874 said: Football with VAR is just unwatchable. Awful. I would seriously consider giving up football if its introduced in Scotland. I agree with this sentiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: What about the timing though? Decisions are being scrutinised and analyses based on millimetres and yet we don’t know how long the game is lasting? Should have been 10 extra minutes and it cost both teams the chance to qualify. Its all all very well in a “lesser” tournament but imagine that in the men’s tournament? Carnage. The timing is the ref's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Ref played on when Scotland making a sub. Ref doesn’t give a pen as Scottish girl got a touch on the ball then spends 6 minutes looking at it and changes her mind. Thought VAR was for clear cut decisions. Keeper saves pen has left foot on line when taken VAR orders retake. The ref doesn’t signal how much added time and is short by about six minutes. Absolutely outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said: She lost the plot at the end tbh. The ref ended it as she'd lost control. There were some tasty tackles going in and a lot of chatter. Can you imagine having 22 women nipping at you all at the same time? I'd blow my whistle too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Ray Gin said: The timing is the ref's fault. Yes, but was this not considered when they introduced VAR? Timing should have been taken out of the refs hands ages ago anyway. It’s way too erratic. VAR for every decision is awful. If a linesman can spot an offside then they can check if a keeper encroaches too far off the line. Fans don’t care about a few centimetres here and there except when it comes to he ball being over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Ref played on when Scotland making a sub. Ref doesn’t give a pen as Scottish girl got a touch on the ball then spends 6 minutes looking at it and changes her mind. Thought VAR was for clear cut decisions. Keeper saves pen has left foot on line when taken VAR orders retake. The ref doesn’t signal how much added time and is short by about six minutes. Absolutely outrageous. I'm completely of this opinion too. Her heel is to my eyes not completely over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Taffin said: Most male goalies are more off the line than that and no retake is ever given. Got to give a goalie a bit of leeway surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 VAR killing the game. Refs are so out of their depth with a complete inability to properly control game. So many tackles unpunished and yet they couldn't time a game to 90 minutes plus extra time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Robbo-Jambo said: Most male goalies are more off the line than that and no retake is ever given. Got to give a goalie a bit of leeway surely. I don't think she is off the line. I think her left heel is still partly above the line in that photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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