Kyle Lafferty.

[Forever Hearts]

7 hours ago, Notts1874 said:

He's not signing ..we never even spoke to him. Shall I say it again?

No. We got the message the first 18 times. 

[DarioHMFC]

10 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

No. We got the message the first 18 times. 

Clearly some haven’t...

[adam1998]

51 pages now - surely time to close this thread down and get it off the first page -  Lafferty is not coming back to Hearts.

 

People can always start a new 'pant wetting' thread in the January window 

[Who_put_the_ball_in...]

13 minutes ago, adam1998 said:

51 pages now - surely time to close this thread down and get it off the first page -  Lafferty is not coming back to Hearts.

 

People can always start a new 'pant wetting' thread in the January window 

Place amazes me people get an idea in the head with zero substance and it turns into a what time will he be announced 

[The Real Maroonblood]

35 minutes ago, DarioHMFC said:

Clearly some haven’t...

Some are as thick as shit.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

31 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Some are as thick as shit.

+1

[iainmac]

19 hours ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Levein didn't ask anyone to pump long balls to Uche and Washington on Saturday.

 

Naismith would not be at Hearts if our players were being asked to play shite football.

 

The manager can only do so much, once the whistle goes it's up to the players.

 

So he might gave mentioned this at HT & changed it possibly? 

[Gimme an H...]

Just now, iainmac said:

 

So he might gave mentioned this at HT & changed it possibly? 

I'm sure he did aye. Amongst alot of other things. 

 

Surely there's no one that actually still believes a manager (any manager, not just our one) would send a team full of decent, at this level, players out to pump it long to the main striker and continually refuse to change it... 

 

Surely no... 

[Forever Hearts]

Just now, Gimme an H... said:

I'm sure he did aye. Amongst alot of other things. 

 

Surely there's no one that actually still believes a manager (any manager, not just our one) would send a team full of decent, at this level, players out to pump it long to the main striker and continually refuse to change it... 

 

Surely no... 

So why do we keep doing it? Game after game after game?

[iainmac]

5 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

I'm sure he did aye. Amongst alot of other things. 

 

Surely there's no one that actually still believes a manager (any manager, not just our one) would send a team full of decent, at this level, players out to pump it long to the main striker and continually refuse to change it... 

 

Surely no... 

 

Have you watched Hearts over the last 3 years? 

 

Play from side to side along the back four at pedestrian pace, Berra / Souttar / Bobby then hoof it up to Uche who then engages in a "strongest man" competition before falling on his arse or giving away a free kick. 

 

It's almost as if it's deliberate. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:30 by iainmac

[Gimme an H...]

Just now, Forever Hearts said:

So why do we keep doing it? Game after game after game?

Because the players' confidence is absolutely shot at Tynecastle. The slightest wee mistake and they're absolutely slaughtered. 

 

I've used this already but do you really think a player of Naismiths/Wheelans quality would sign for a team that has a manager that wants to play mind numbing, punt it long football? 

 

The answer is no, they wouldn't. 

[Gimme an H...]

3 minutes ago, iainmac said:

 

Have you watched Hearts over the last 3 years? 

 

Play from side to side along the back four at pedestrian pace, Berra / Souttar / Bobby then hoof it up to Uche who then engages in a "strongest man" competition before falling on his arse or giving away a few kick. 

 

It's almost as if it's deliberate. 

 

Aye, unfortunately I have watched them. 

 

I'm not saying the football isn't all of the above. I'm saying the manager won't send them out with the tactic of 'pass it to whoever is free in our half, turn and punt it'... 

 

Absolutely no way that's happening. It's the players confidence that's the issue. 

[iainmac]

1 minute ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Aye, unfortunately I have watched them. 

 

I'm not saying the football isn't all of the above. I'm saying the manager won't send them out with the tactic of 'pass it to whoever is free in our half, turn and punt it'... 

 

Absolutely no way that's happening. It's the players confidence that's the issue. 

 

For 3 years? 

 

I think that answers it. 

[Forever Hearts]

5 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

Because the players' confidence is absolutely shot at Tynecastle. The slightest wee mistake and they're absolutely slaughtered. 

 

I've used this already but do you really think a player of Naismiths/Wheelans quality would sign for a team that has a manager that wants to play mind numbing, punt it long football? 

 

The answer is no, they wouldn't. 

We punt the ball long because the players are short on confidence? Really? Is it not because they are being very poorly coached and not working their arses off on the training ground all day every day on tactics and styles of play that could maybe break the opposition down? 

[kila]

So glad this isn't happening.

 

No time or patience for the big wank that he is, and since he went to Rangers what has he done? Nothing really. Fell out with the manager and whored himself back to Hearts as well as seemingly some young women.

 

 

[The Old Tolbooth]

13 minutes ago, iainmac said:

 

Have you watched Hearts over the last 3 years? 

 

Play from side to side along the back four at pedestrian pace, Berra / Souttar / Bobby then hoof it up to Uche who then engages in a "strongest man" competition before falling on his arse or giving away a free kick. 

 

It's almost as if it's deliberate. 

 

This is what I don't get with the fans defending Levein who want him to stay until October, nothing's going to change, he doesn't have a plan B, he barely has a plan A! He needs to go asap for the fairness of the fans. 

[kila]

6 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

We punt the ball long because the players are short on confidence? Really? Is it not because they are being very poorly coached and not working their arses off on the training ground all day every day on tactics and styles of play that could maybe break the opposition down? 

 

Is that not all related though? Lack of players confidence a direct outcome of poor coaching.

[Gimme an H...]

7 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

We punt the ball long because the players are short on confidence? Really? Is it not because they are being very poorly coached and not working their arses off on the training ground all day every day on tactics and styles of play that could maybe break the opposition down? 

 

And yet we are still able to sign players of decent caliber despite it being common knowledge that our players don't get coached properly. Aye that must be it. 

[Forever Hearts]

2 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

And yet we are still able to sign players of decent caliber despite it being common knowledge that our players don't get coached properly. Aye that must be it. 

We are utter shite so they are obviously NOT getting coached properly. 

[Rudy T]

7 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Aye, unfortunately I have watched them. 

 

I'm not saying the football isn't all of the above. I'm saying the manager won't send them out with the tactic of 'pass it to whoever is free in our half, turn and punt it'... 

 

Absolutely no way that's happening. It's the players confidence that's the issue. 

 

I know what your saying. I’m certain like you his instructions aren’t punt it the length of Tynie and hope for the best. 

 

What I think he tries to do is play, second ball football. Where we move it forward quickly to the strikers and the midfield push on to pick up the 2nd ball high up the pitch, or play it long to the wings for the wide men to deliver into the box. Problem is teams are wise to it, they squeeze or back 4 and allow Berra to have the ball, he can’t play so he hoofs it every time. Problem 2 occurs because Uche can’t hold the ball up so our midfield get caught in no mans land and our back line is exposed to the counter attack.

 

Its simple to change....get the thing down and pass through the lines and don’t let Berra get isolated and get Uche onto the bench and use him as an impact player till he learns how to control a ball and shoot!

[Hearts1975]

27 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

I'm sure he did aye. Amongst alot of other things. 

 

Surely there's no one that actually still believes a manager (any manager, not just our one) would send a team full of decent, at this level, players out to pump it long to the main striker and continually refuse to change it... 

 

Surely no... 

That’s not what happened. Don’t believe that for a second and Levein intimated that the defence started picking that option 

 

that said, the question still has to be asked why the players chose to do that ? 

 

If Levein/coaches don’t address, fix it and stop it from happening who will ? 

[Gimme an H...]

14 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

We are utter shite so they are obviously NOT getting coached properly. 

 

Right-o... 

 

7 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

That’s not what happened. Don’t believe that for a second and Levein intimated that the defence started picking that option 

 

that said, the question still has to be asked why the players chose to do that ? 

 

If Levein/coaches don’t address, fix it and stop it from happening who will ? 

 

I've really no idea why they're choosing to do it and I don't think a new manager would either. We need a run of wins.

 

Who remembers August - October last season? 

 

I do. And that was a Levein team playing football with confidence. Confidence is everything in football. 

[euan 10]

15 hours ago, Natural Orders said:

Why would you wash lafferty?

Washington, Lafferty,Walker I meant 

[Forever Hearts]

8 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Right-o... 

 

 

 

So we're not utter shite and we ARE getting coached properly? Make your mind up. 

[Hearts1975]

4 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Right-o... 

 

 

I've really no idea why they're choosing to do it and I don't think a new manager would either. We need a run of wins.

 

Who remembers August - October last season? 

 

I do. And that was a Levein team playing football with confidence. Confidence is everything in football. 

You make a real valid point re the start of last season. We then lost a bit of momentum, most folk, not all put it down to injuries. Since then it’s been a slide 

 

the Betfred group stage was the ideal time to get some goals and confidence going against some part time sides, but no, it never happened 

 

No question, on the park we were a different side start of last season and on paper we have a much stronger side now and I think some of the recent signings are really good. Why do we then just look berefit of ideas currently. We need a good result and a win on Friday and hopefully get some confidence back in the side 

[Gimme an H...]

11 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said:

So we're not utter shite and we ARE getting coached properly? Make your mind up. 

 

No, you've misunderstood me...

 

I don't agree with your assessment and I'm not interested in getting into a debate with someone who thinks it's as simple as 'we're shite so our coaching must be shite'...

[downunder jambo]

Thought this was a Kyle Lafferty thread! But as usual.................! Every bloody thread ends up the same!

Very tiresome, and very boring!

[Forever Hearts]

8 minutes ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

No, you've misunderstood me...

 

I don't agree with your assessment and I'm not interested in getting into a debate with someone who thinks it's as simple as 'we're shite so our coaching must be shite'...

We've lost 8 of our last 10 games and drawn the other 2 whilst playing horrendous football, that is my definition of utter shite. Can you tell me your definition?

[Allowayjambo1874]

1 hour ago, Gimme an H... said:

 

Aye, unfortunately I have watched them. 

 

I'm not saying the football isn't all of the above. I'm saying the manager won't send them out with the tactic of 'pass it to whoever is free in our half, turn and punt it'... 

 

Absolutely no way that's happening. It's the players confidence that's the issue. 

So if this is the case and the players continue to punt it because of their lack of confidence the manager then picks the same players the following week (after week after week)? Come on Berra is most experienced player we’ve got, if CL pulled him and told him if he continues to punt it he’s dropped I’ll guarantee you the next match the ball wouldn’t be launched. If players weren’t following managers instructions they would be dropped immediately.

 

The slow play along the back with easy passes then launch is a safety first tactic and that’s because of the way the players are being coached. 

 

Hearts are a big club in Scotland with a good reputation and outside chance of winning trophies, that’s what appeals to players. 

[Gimme an H...]

5 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said:

So if this is the case and the players continue to punt it because of their lack of confidence the manager then picks the same players the following week (after week after week)? Come on Berra is most experienced player we’ve got, if CL pulled him and told him if he continues to punt it he’s dropped I’ll guarantee you the next match the ball wouldn’t be launched. If players weren’t following managers instructions they would be dropped immediately.

 

The slow play along the back with easy passes then launch is a safety first tactic and that’s because of the way the players are being coached. 

 

Hearts are a big club in Scotland with a good reputation and outside chance of winning trophies, that’s what appeals to players. 

 

I agree. But they wouldn't sign if they're told the coaching is horrendous.

 

He picks the same players because they're the best we've got in that position.

[adam1998]

23 minutes ago, downunder jambo said:

Thought this was a Kyle Lafferty thread! But as usual.................! Every bloody thread ends up the same!

Very tiresome, and very boring!

 

Spot on - a thread on Lafferty that is nothing at all to do with him- Great reading 🤣

[Robbo-Jambo]

1 hour ago, iainmac said:

 

For 3 years? 

 

I think that answers it. 

Correct. 

 

Christ how many of the current players were even there then? 

 

We keep still doing the same thing with each team that has constantly changed over 3 years because there confidence has gone!!! 

 

Bit of a coincidence that. Look at the one constant that has been there over that period. 

 

It's not rocket science to work that one out is it. 🤔

[Tasavallan]

1 hour ago, iainmac said:

 

Play from side to side along the back four at pedestrian pace, Berra / Souttar / Bobby then hoof it up to Uche who then engages in a "strongest man" competition before falling on his arse or giving away a free kick. 

 

 

This is what infuriates me, Iain.  The number of times Hearts get the ball up to the opposition penalty box only for it to be passed back through midfield to the defence then back to Zlamal who blasts it up field for Uche to fall on his arse trying to control it. 

 

The biggest result from the lack of confidence is that nobody has the nouse to just take a shot but instead try to play tippy-tappy ball retention.

[Sagan]

2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Some are as thick as shit.

😂😂

[Sarah O]

On 13/08/2019 at 07:53, Des Lynam said:

 

 

Laff signed on again yet m8?

[Morgan]

12 hours ago, jake said:

 

 

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[Morgan]

17 hours ago, Natural Orders said:

Why would you wash lafferty?

[iainmac]

59 minutes ago, Tasavallan said:

 

This is what infuriates me, Iain.  The number of times Hearts get the ball up to the opposition penalty box only for it to be passed back through midfield to the defence then back to Zlamal who blasts it up field for Uche to fall on his arse trying to control it. 

 

The biggest result from the lack of confidence is that nobody has the nouse to just take a shot but instead try to play tippy-tappy ball retention.

 

I'd much rather we played through the 3rds quickly, got the ball wide & our wide players got to the bye line before putting dangerous balls into the box. 

 

Doesn't seem to happen enough with most of our crosses coming from middle 3rd, straight to opposition CH or GK. 

 

Hate to use across the city as an example but Boyle & Horgan go straight for the bye line when they get the ball. 

 

Infuriating! 

[Natural Orders]

48 minutes ago, Morgan said:

helpful as always!

[Morgan]

11 minutes ago, Natural Orders said:

helpful as always!

Glad to be of assistance!

 

Took me a moment to realise this was from yourself as there was an exclamation mark, and I’m soooo used to seeing question marks.

 

 

[MR INCREDIBLE]

1 hour ago, iainmac said:

 

I'd much rather we played through the 3rds quickly, got the ball wide & our wide players got to the bye line before putting dangerous balls into the box. 

 

Doesn't seem to happen enough with most of our crosses coming from middle 3rd, straight to opposition CH or GK. 

 

Hate to use across the city as an example but Boyle & Horgan go straight for the bye line when they get the ball. 

 

Infuriating! 

The issue is we don't really have any decent fast wide players... Mulrenay probably the best but not getting a game at present... Walker's not got the pace to be out and out winger... Zanatta could play there but never gets a run in the team. 

This is an area we should have been trying to sort out.... another black mark against the management team. 

[Robbo-Jambo]

58 minutes ago, Morgan said:

Glad to be of assistance!

 

Took me a moment to realise this was from yourself as there was an exclamation mark, and I’m soooo used to seeing question marks.

 

 

Wish he would change his name back things just aint the same.

[Tasavallan]

2 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

I'd much rather we played through the 3rds quickly, got the ball wide & our wide players got to the bye line before putting dangerous balls into the box. 

 

Doesn't seem to happen enough with most of our crosses coming from middle 3rd, straight to opposition CH or GK. 

 

Hate to use across the city as an example but Boyle & Horgan go straight for the bye line when they get the ball. 

 

Infuriating! 

 

What Hearts need is a Forrest Gump type that will go straight for the bye-line.

[Morgan]

19 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Wish he would change his name back things just aint the same.

What makes you say that?

 

What was his old name?

 

Is that a picture of your pet dog?

 

What is it’s name?

 

   

[Robbo-Jambo]

10 minutes ago, Morgan said:

What makes you say that?

 

What was his old name?

 

Is that a picture of your pet dog?

 

What is it’s name?

 

   

[TommiGronlund]

Wow....so in short lafferty is'nt signing.

 

end of.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

1 minute ago, TommiGronlund said:

Wow....so in short lafferty is'nt signing.

 

end of.

He's also as slithery as Pressley. 

[YouLetYourClubDie]

21 hours ago, jake said:

Couldn't make the bench at Rangers.

 

Plus hes a snide.

 

File under snake along with Pressley.

 

No one minded Hartley going to his boyhood club.

It's not just about football.

After all the support both players got they chose Tynecastle to metaphorically tell us we meant nothing.

 

Snake 1 pumping the Celtic badge 

Snake 2 pumping the Rangers badge.

 

Weeks after leaving.

Snake 1 tried to justify it like a little today rat.

Snake 2 doesnt understand what justify means hes just a rat.

 

Hope that's wow enough

 

Toady

He was on the bench most weeks at Rangers. Laff has to start games to maintain fitness.

 

A snide who we signed for nothing and punted for decent money a year later. If only we could do that with all players we sign. 

 

I had left the ground by the time Rangers were celebrating at the end but personally could not care less if he celebrated with their fans at the end.

 

He is a Rangers fan who loved his time at Hearts but wanted to sign for his boyhood club. In what way is he a rat? Ni transfer requests and he gave his all to the end including a fine goal against Celtic.

[jake]

7 minutes ago, YouLetYourClubDie said:

He was on the bench most weeks at Rangers. Laff has to start games to maintain fitness.

 

A snide who we signed for nothing and punted for decent money a year later. If only we could do that with all players we sign. 

 

I had left the ground by the time Rangers were celebrating at the end but personally could not care less if he celebrated with their fans at the end.

 

He is a Rangers fan who loved his time at Hearts but wanted to sign for his boyhood club. In what way is he a rat? Ni transfer requests and he gave his all to the end including a fine goal against Celtic.

And I've no problem with him wanting to go back to Rangers.

Or that he supported them.

 

I was there at the end.

I know he is meant to be thick but it riled me.

In the same way Presssssssley did.

Lack of respect which I happily return.

 

And it was some weeks emptied by Gerrard who obviously didnt appreciate his lack of professionalism.

 

[Newton51]

Sounds like he has spoken to linfield. They have qualified to the play off of europa league so could pay his wages if qualify