ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, rick witter said: **** him and **** his staff!!!! Losers. He will be getting told that on Friday at the bookies. Enough is enough Aw gie's peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, ri Alban said: Aw gie's peace. Loser mentality like the “gaffer” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, rick witter said: **** him and **** his staff!!!! Losers. He will be getting told that on Friday at the bookies. Enough is enough You'll be tellin, nae can't, anything. Ya chocolate hardman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: You'll be tellin, nae can't, anything. Ya chocolate hardman. Chocolate??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, rick witter said: Chocolate??? Aye, made of chocolate and if the heat appears, you'd melt. Big CL would stiffin' ye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Aye, made of chocolate and if the heat appears, you'd melt. Big CL would stiffin' ye. Hahaha. Ok big stuff no probs. Are you happy with big Craig and the squad of losers??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, rick witter said: Chocolate??? Saft as shite! I want a new manager, but I'll no bad mooth CL. Criticise, yes. But, FFS, your seriously out of order, at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Saft as shite! I want a new manager, but I'll no bad mooth CL. Criticise, yes. But, FFS, your seriously out of order, at times. Why I’m I out of order??? For wanting better for my club? You will just stand by watching is get pumped everyone before you agree we need a change???? How does that make me soft Edited April 21, 2019 by rick witter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rick witter said: Hahaha. Ok big stuff no probs. Are you happy with big Craig and the squad of losers??? No, but I'll no be abusing/booing anyone who wears the maroon. Yes I'll get angry on here, at times, but FFS, come on. Relax a bit, I don't think they mean to lose, do you? Edited April 21, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, rick witter said: Why I’m I out of order??? For wanting better for my club? You will just stand by watching is get pumped everyone before you agree we need a change???? Ok, fine, wire in. C'mon Hearts, is all I'll say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Ok, fine, wire in. C'mon Hearts, is all I'll say. 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Ok, fine, wire in. C'mon Hearts, is all I'll say. Totally agree cmon Hearts. Will seem so much better without Levein there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, frankblack said: Yeah because the situations are so comparable. The 2012 Hearts team were put together on a considerably larger budget than this current team. Even with this budget he managed to get us to a storming 5th position in the league, behind St Johnstone IIRC. well done tiresomely predictable - but I will remind you that hearts were the long-priced 2nd favourites in the semi-final but rather than our bottle crashing at harthill we turned up just about no-one will be happier than me if we win this cup final but there's not a lot to be confident about - leveins record against the old firm in Glasgow is beyond atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: well done tiresomely predictable - but I will remind you that hearts were the long-priced 2nd favourites in the semi-final but rather than our bottle crashing at harthill we turned up just about no-one will be happier than me if we win this cup final but there's not a lot to be confident about - leveins record against the old firm in Glasgow is beyond atrocious What is it that is so difficult for you to understand that this Hearts team is run on a fraction of the budget that the 2012 team were? Man for man, how many of our current squad would have got into that team? That team was stronger in all the key positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Time to unite behind Cathro’s twin Levein more like. If Levein loves Hearts so much why hasn’t he resigned ? If Ann Budge has Hearts best interests at heart why hasn’t she sacked Levein ? Wake up you Levein worshipers you either don’t know anything about football or you just don’t care about the crap football we are dished up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, frankblack said: What is it that is so difficult for you to understand that this Hearts team is run on a fraction of the budget that the 2012 team were? Man for man, how many of our current squad would have got into that team? That team was stronger in all the key positions. i think it is you who is actually struggling to grasp the concept of relative strength I've neither the time nor the inclination to help you with it further so have a reasonable evening Edited April 21, 2019 by MoncurMacdonaldMercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, mitch41 said: Time to unite behind Cathro’s twin Levein more like. If Levein loves Hearts so much why hasn’t he resigned ? Because he believes he can turn it around. If Ann Budge has Hearts best interests at heart why hasn’t she sacked Levein ? Because she believes he can turn it around. Wake up you Levein worshipers you either don’t know anything about football or you just don’t care about the crap football we are dished up. You can stop asking these questions now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, graygo said: You can stop asking these questions now. Question 1. Wrong Question 2. Wrong Poor graygo you go to the Dunces chair in the corner. Edited April 21, 2019 by mitch41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Whoever started this tread is either blind or doesn't know **** all about football ,has he been to a game or even watched on telly , Hearts have played the worst shitiest football you will ever see levein is a ****in dinosaur I actually watched the vermin playing their big brothers and they played football not hoofball ,hibs Will give us hiding Doon there no joke be afraid be very afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said: Whoever started this tread is either blind or doesn't know **** all about football ,has he been to a game or even watched on telly , Hearts have played the worst shitiest football you will ever see levein is a ****in dinosaur I actually watched the vermin playing their big brothers and they played football not hoofball ,hibs Will give us hiding Doon there no joke be afraid be very afraid Well said buzzbomb. Your views are not only supported by the majority of fans but also by many ex Hearts players who privately at functions agree the big man is not doing the job we the fans and team deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I watch Craig Levein sometimes, when he is being filmed or doing interviews. Since his health scare there has been a change. I am sure he realises he might have to go soon for the good of further progress but he will go with my blessing. So who next ? Not Mikey Stewart though he would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: i think it is you who is actually struggling to grasp the concept of relative strength I've neither the time nor the inclination to help you with it further so have a reasonable evening There you go, making ridiculous comparisons you can't justify and getting upset when challenged. My point is proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Alva-Jambo said: I watch Craig Levein sometimes, when he is being filmed or doing interviews. Since his health scare there has been a change. I am sure he realises he might have to go soon for the good of further progress but he will go with my blessing. So who next ? Not Mikey Stewart though he would love it. I am worrying about my sanity. I was watching Sky tonight and thought Nigel Pearson would make a good manager at Hearts. Regardless, there are a lot of decent ex-managers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Levein can **** off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 CL apologists love to slag off Mikey Stewart but the fact is he’s right. Under CL we have made little progress and signed a long list of duds many of whom don’t actually play for the club yet get paid. Our tactics are one dimensional with clubs like Livi outplaying us. What surprised me most about Saturday was the number of empty seats normally occupied by season ticket holders, before the game. Moral throughout the club and support is visibly poor and is a mile away from the feel good factor we used to have. it would do harm for the club to announce CL is retiring at the end of the season on health grounds. He deserves to be kept on as a non exec director but we need new blood to control all footballing matters. Otherwise we will drift back to something like the 1970’s . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Prof said: CL apologists love to slag off Mikey Stewart but the fact is he’s right. Under CL we have made little progress and signed a long list of duds many of whom don’t actually play for the club yet get paid. Our tactics are one dimensional with clubs like Livi outplaying us. What surprised me most about Saturday was the number of empty seats normally occupied by season ticket holders, before the game. Moral throughout the club and support is visibly poor and is a mile away from the feel good factor we used to have. it would do harm for the club to announce CL is retiring at the end of the season on health grounds. He deserves to be kept on as a non exec director but we need new blood to control all footballing matters. Otherwise we will drift back to something like the 1970’s . Youre very young, that's obvious. If you were there in the 70's, you would never compare what we have now to what we really didn't have back then. For sure, we're playing crap at the moment but we're building a solid foundation that will ensure we've never go back to the bad old days of the 70's or Romanov era again. It takes time but it's worth waiting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allowayjambo1874 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Finlay James said: Youre very young, that's obvious. If you were there in the 70's, you would never compare what we have now to what we really didn't have back then. For sure, we're playing crap at the moment but we're building a solid foundation that will ensure we've never go back to the bad old days of the 70's or Romanov era again. It takes time but it's worth waiting for. Sorry FJ I think harking back 40 years and comparing it with now is disingenuous, that would be like saying we were brilliant in the 50s it’s absolutely pathetic we’ve sunk so low. And btw I did watch Hearts in the 70’s. As for patience, how long does it take as after our first year back it looks like 5th, 6th and 6th finishes. I could give you last year with all the youngsters playing but the season it’s been appalling and the ‘playing academy ‘ players doesn’t ring true, Morrison is about the only one who’s played decent game time this season. Edited April 22, 2019 by Allowayjambo1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Finlay James said: Youre very young, that's obvious. If you were there in the 70's, you would never compare what we have now to what we really didn't have back then. For sure, we're playing crap at the moment but we're building a solid foundation that will ensure we've never go back to the bad old days of the 70's or Romanov era again. It takes time but it's worth waiting for. I agree with half what you say but it's a new era we need someone who has a knowledge of the modern game I'm afraid managers of levein and McLeish era have been left behind in tactical awareness it's time to look outside the box , how do the vermin manage to bring managers in that do a job it's bewildering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Allowayjambo1874 said: Sorry FJ I think harking back 40 years and comparing it with now is disingenuous, that would be like saying we were brilliant in the 50s it’s absolutely pathetic we’ve sunk so low. And btw I did watch Hearts in the 70’s. As for patience, how long does it take as after our first year back it looks like 5th, 6th and 6th finishes. I could give you last year with all the youngsters playing but the season it’s been appalling and the ‘playing academy ‘ players doesn’t ring true, Morrison is about the only one who’s played decent game time this season. I didnt hark back to the 70's, the poster that I was responding to did, he said we were heading backward to those days which is just not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Just now, buzzbomb1958 said: I agree with half what you say but it's a new era we need someone who has a knowledge of the modern game I'm afraid managers of levein and McLeish era have been left behind in tactical awareness it's time to look outside the box , how do the vermin manage to bring managers in that do a job it's bewildering I agree, I think that Levein has done well to lift the club post admin but now is time to move on. hes lost the plot and it's painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Finlay James said: I agree, I think that Levein has done well to lift the club post admin but now is time to move on. hes lost the plot and it's painful to watch. Hopefully the final will be Craig's swansong he will be remembered for what he done at Dundee it's and being a PHM but he will probably know himself it's time to enjoy his seat on the board,but and a very big but we have to get rid of the whole coaching side and pick a manager who will move this club forward with new coaches with new ideas ,I think this will have to happen to fill the ground with happy punters we deserve better imo Edited April 22, 2019 by buzzbomb1958 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Finlay James said: I didnt hark back to the 70's, the poster that I was responding to did, he said we were heading backward to those days which is just not true. Might not be true but I watched a poor Hearts during the 70's and there was a reason they were a poor teams... we had hehaw money to get decent players !! At the present time we are spunking money like confetti on duds that CL has brought to the side. So in summary CL is wasting shed loads of money on a bunch of players who are in the main not up to it, the rest of the under performing is down to his tactics and poor coaching. So while I agree with your post think a bit more deeply about it pound for pound we are actually back in the 70's performance vs pounds the money being lavished on players is not bringing the proper returns... in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonblood22 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I can't even be arsed to quote the many posts mentioning Sergio's apparently stronger financial position during THAT cup run. Comparing Sergio's operating conditions to the resources that CL has had is just laughable. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hearts/8992322/Hearts-ordered-by-SPL-to-pay-outstanding-players-wages.html "An SPL sub-committee met today after players' union PFA Scotland submitted a formal complaint on behalf of Hearts' first-team squad on Dec 16, when wages were not paid on time for a third consecutive month. December's pay remains outstanding and the SPL have made a series of demands in order to halt the financial uncertainty surrounding the club. An SPL statement read: "An SPL board sub-committee today adjudicated in the dispute between 14 players and Heart of Midlothian FC." The SPL board sub-committee has ordered December wages to be paid by Jan 11. "Interest on all sums overdue from October, November and December wages must also be paid by Jan 11. January salaries must be paid on time on Jan 16." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Sorry but time is up. The only way I will get behind Levein and his merry sidekicks now is to close the door behind them on their way out. I barely even feel love for the club nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Finlay James said: Youre very young, that's obvious. If you were there in the 70's, you would never compare what we have now to what we really didn't have back then. For sure, we're playing crap at the moment but we're building a solid foundation that will ensure we've never go back to the bad old days of the 70's or Romanov era again. It takes time but it's worth waiting for. Is the only answer. Even put as simply as that the screwballs still don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Why are we always comparing to the 1970's? How about he 1980's where a team of young academy talent and sensible purchases almost won the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Why are we always comparing to the 1970's? How about he 1980's where a team of young academy talent and sensible purchases almost won the league? My fav is "we almost went bust". Like that has anything to do with us getting horsed of the Huns on Sat. Edited April 22, 2019 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Why are we always comparing to the 1970's? How about he 1980's where a team of young academy talent and sensible purchases almost won the league? You can't compare the 80s either, the 90s is stretching it. Everyone over the age of 50 is a Dinosaur and football's changed apparently. Back to Cathro I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: My fav is "we almost went bust". Like that has anything to do with us getting horsed of the Huns on Sat. Spot on.. The Huns are a much better team than us, have much better players and pay 5 times the wages to a bigger squad. Good post i8, keeping it real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Spot on.. The Huns are a much better team than us, have much better players and pay 5 times the wages to a bigger squad. Good post i8, keeping it real. How did Hibs manage to get a draw against Celtic then? Celtic's budget is about 4 times that of Rangers. How have Aberdeen beaten Rangers twice this season? Edited April 22, 2019 by BOBTHEBRUCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Spot on.. The Huns are a much better team than us, have much better players and pay 5 times the wages to a bigger squad. Good post i8, keeping it real. We have lost to every team in the league (bar St J iirc), scored few conceded many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BOBTHEBRUCE said: How did Hibs manage to get a draw against Celtic then? Celtic's budget is about 4 times that of Rangers. How have Aberdeen beaten Rangers twice this season? You've got all the answers Bob, you don't need me interfering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: We have lost to every team in the league (bar St J iirc), scored few conceded many. Think we've also beaten every team in the league except Rangers. We're an average team in an average to poor league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: You've got all the answers Bob, you don't need me interfering. And you've got all the excuses ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BOBTHEBRUCE said: And you've got all the excuses ? Facts I like to call them personally, but you crack on getting yourself all flustered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Finlay James said: Youre very young, that's obvious. If you were there in the 70's, you would never compare what we have now to what we really didn't have back then. For sure, we're playing crap at the moment but we're building a solid foundation that will ensure we've never go back to the bad old days of the 70's or Romanov era again. It takes time but it's worth waiting for. First saw Hearts in late 1950’s and have been a regular since then. I’ve seen a good few great Hearts teams and players and I can state with some assurance that the likes of Uche, Dikamona, Vanacek, Bozanic and most of the other CL duds wouldn’t have got a sniff of a game in the 60’s, 80’s, and 90’s. As for the Romanov era- it was one of the most exciting times at Tynie. Although Hobos and that *rsehole The Tache, like to slag Vlad off, the only reason he went bankrupt was the 2007/8 financial crisis and not by ploughing money into Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Facts I like to call them personally, but you crack on getting yourself all flustered. Can I ask what it is that frightens you about Levein being replaced? Will you miss his tactics, the style of play? Perhaps the garbage that he mumbles post match? Why does he have such a hold over you? You'll still be able to go to the games and enjoy your day out. So, what is it that frightens you about an underperforming employee and his coaches being sacked. Nothing can surely be more frightening than looking at the league table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Think we've also beaten every team in the league except Rangers. We're an average team in an average to poor league. Outstanding resources available at our club and we are mid table of a very average league. Does that not resonate with you in any way? It seems like every week is a failure for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedBoy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Is the only answer. Even put as simply as that the screwballs still don't understand. Yep, look how long it’s taken Heckingbottom to reinvigorate a failing club. CL is totally uninspiring, on the radio, in person, and on the football pitch via his players. H1b5 are 9 without defeat. CL it seems has run out of ideas, he has hit his ceiling in my opinion. Thanks Craig, for all you have done. But even Kings have to fall on their swords some day ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonblood22 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Facts I like to call them personally, but you crack on getting yourself all flustered. Facts? We finished 5th the season before last We finished 6th last season We're currently 6th (with a -5 goal difference) We are currently 11 points and 21 goals behind 3rd placed Aberdeen We're only 8 points clear of 9th placed newly promoted Livingston who actually have a better goal difference than us (they've also conceded 12 less than us) We got pumped 5-0 off newly promoted Livingston this season We lost at home to bottom placed Dundee who have only won 4 games all season and have a -45 goal difference At a time when our club is in it's most stable off-field position in years I just cannot understand how any Hearts supporter would be happy for this 'progress' to continue under Levein's 'stewardship'. Edited April 22, 2019 by Maroonblood22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: Outstanding resources available at our club and we are mid table of a very average league. Does that not resonate with you in any way? It seems like every week is a failure for us. You gave up years ago so of course you see everything as failure. You see a Cup final appearance as failure. If I ever felt like that I'd have given up years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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