Rab87 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Breaking now, he's had his asylum revoked by Ecuador. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 What's he been arrested for? I thought the rape charge finished years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab87 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, indianajones said: What's he been arrested for? I thought the rape charge finished years ago? Skipping bail. Doing a runner and hiding in the embassy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I hope he's extradited to the U.S and sings on Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Now arrested on behalf of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 His trial in America will be interesting. Would have been better going to Sweden all these years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Mental. Either the US were leaning hard on Ecuador or the boy was stinking out the bog too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: That's the "further arrest". Original arrest was for skipping bail in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Guy will end up killing himself. Which really means he'll be killed by those that oppose the truth he was spreading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Britain and American in cohoots, as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Britain and American in cohoots, as usual. Wasn't Ecuador involved in some fairly significant way? Edited April 11, 2019 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Wasn't Ecuador involved in some fairly significant way? Aye, threatened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Britain and American in cohoots, as usual. Good stuff. Could have avoided all this by going to Sweden. Which seemed more cowardly than principled. Poorly advised perhaps. Trial in US may help his cause though. Though they might do something different. I'll wait till thread develops to help put the case against him. Edited April 11, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Good stuff. Could have avoided all this by going to Sweden. Which seemed more cowardly than principled. Poorly advised perhaps. Trial in US may help his cause though. Though they might do something different. I'll wait till thread develops to help put the case against him. What did he do, anyway. Published secrets? I don't really follow the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, ri Alban said: What did he do, anyway. Published secrets? I don't really follow the story. The material published has embarrassed a lot of governments. Fair enough. And the first information included a video of US soldiers firing on Iraqi civilians. Really good to expose. But then they just dumped a mass of information. The stuff the young lad (now a woman) got the jail for till Obama pardoned him. That information will have led to people say Afghan informants for the US being targeted, killed or imprisoned. That to me was unacceptable. Totally irresponsible. Then there is his / Wikileaks links to Russia and others including Trump and some right wing groups including during the campaign versus Hilary Clinton including leaking her emails. That could make any trial interesting. Lots have speculated Trump would pardon him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: The material published has embarrassed a lot of governments. Fair enough. And the first information included a video of US soldiers firing on Iraqi civilians. Really good to expose. But then they just dumped a mass of information. The stuff the young lad (now a woman) got the jail for till Obama pardoned him. That information will have led to people say Afghan informants for the US being targeted, killed or imprisoned. That to me was unacceptable. Totally irresponsible. Then there is his / Wikileaks links to Russia and others including Trump and some right wing groups including during the campaign versus Hilary Clinton including leaking her emails. That could make any trial interesting. Lots have speculated Trump would pardon him. So he's a dicknut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, indianajones said: What's he been arrested for? I thought the rape charge finished years ago? Probably for just being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, indianajones said: What's he been arrested for? I thought the rape charge finished years ago? Curiously the original extradition request was from Sweden. Assange claimed asylum because he said Sweden might extradite him to US. But now its US. As said UK and US are tight. Not sure if Sweden would have. So poor judgement all along perhaps. But as said Assange surely would want a nice show trial in US to advertise everything he stands for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 About time he was made to face the world Who knows whether he is innocent or not but he has to face due process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 He’s a right weirdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Curiously the original extradition request was from Sweden. Assange claimed asylum because he said Sweden might extradite him to US. But now its US. As said UK and US are tight. Not sure if Sweden would have. So poor judgement all along perhaps. But as said Assange surely would want a nice show trial in US to advertise everything he stands for. Pretty sure he wont be relishing the thought of a US trial. That's why he was in the embassy in the first place . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Pretty sure this would have helped smooth things over - https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2019/03/11/ecuador-pr1972-imf-executive-board-approves-eff-for-ecuador Edited April 12, 2019 by Craig_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Curiously the original extradition request was from Sweden. Assange claimed asylum because he said Sweden might extradite him to US. But now its US. As said UK and US are tight. Not sure if Sweden would have. So poor judgement all along perhaps. But as said Assange surely would want a nice show trial in US to advertise everything he stands for. Well exactly. The real reason for claiming asylum was to avoid facing the rape charges in Sweden. He knew a lot of idiots would swallow the guff about avoiding extradition to the US, even though it was always more likely that Britain would extradite him than Sweden would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Socrates said: Well exactly. The real reason for claiming asylum was to avoid facing the rape charges in Sweden. He knew a lot of idiots would swallow the guff about avoiding extradition to the US, even though it was always more likely that Britain would extradite him than Sweden would. Can't really be guff about avoiding extradition to the US, since that's exactly what's transpired ! The Swedish charges were trumped up and now disappeared . Think he was right to fear extradition . Obviously thought he stood a better chance via UK / Ecuador. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Trump doesn't want this guy talking. He elected the clown with his boss Putin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Lots of interesting coverage on MSM yesterday. Will be extradited to U.S. on charges, will take a while for hearings etc. Some of the legal experts say the charges they are talking about just now involve his getting a password for the hacker, not serious, and some opine not even criminal as there is no suggestion he ac tually ha cked anything which is a crime. What was interesting was Trump who they showed in his Campaign expressing his love for Wikileaks on numerous occasions, showing documents he had received through Wikileaks, and yesterday he states he knows nothing about Wikileaks, never heard of them. If Assange is looking for help, its like Donald will throw the drowning man an anchor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, felix said: Can't really be guff about avoiding extradition to the US, since that's exactly what's transpired ! The Swedish charges were trumped up and now disappeared . Think he was right to fear extradition . Obviously thought he stood a better chance via UK / Ecuador. · 11 Apr My client and I have just recieved the news that Assange has been arrested in London. It did understandably come as a shock to my client that what we have been waiting and hoping for since 2012 has now finally happened. We are going to do everything we possibly can to get the swedish police investigation re-opened so that Assange can be extradited to Sweden and prosecuted for rape. No rape victim should have to wait 9 years to see justice be served. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cade Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The entire legal case is shaky AF. Relies on a single interpretation of a couple of throwaway comments made years ago. All about the USA lashing out against anybody uncovering their various war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing to do with the (also dodgy) sexual assault claims made in Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 11/04/2019 at 18:01, Mikey1874 said: The material published has embarrassed a lot of governments. Fair enough. And the first information included a video of US soldiers firing on Iraqi civilians. Really good to expose. But then they just dumped a mass of information. The stuff the young lad (now a woman) got the jail for till Obama pardoned him. That information will have led to people say Afghan informants for the US being targeted, killed or imprisoned. That to me was unacceptable. Totally irresponsible. Then there is his / Wikileaks links to Russia and others including Trump and some right wing groups including during the campaign versus Hilary Clinton including leaking her emails. That could make any trial interesting. Lots have speculated Trump would pardon him. He didnt do anything much. Wikileaks released Americas dirty war secrets not Assange personally but uncle Sam wont care. Just needs a scapegoat to incarcerate for a few decades for heehaw & May & her pals will loyally assist. Hes a dead man walking. Didnt do any worse that the NY times or the BBC. Farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) BREAKING: New Wikileaks File Dump Wikileaks releases massive file dump after arrest of Julian Assange. Iraq_OIF_Property_List. ? So very juicy stuff in there. https://file.wikileaks.org/file/ Edited April 14, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 He'll end up committing suicide inside a suitcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andsoitbegins Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Apparently he was into smearing his shite on the walls when he didn't get his own way. Dirty bassa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, andsoitbegins said: Apparently he was into smearing his shite on the walls when he didn't get his own way. Dirty bassa. To be fair, who isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 hours ago, AlphonseCapone said: He'll end up committing suicide inside a suitcase. Will the arrest of Assange help hide the atrocities uncovered by Wikileaks? Jokes aside , wonder if these MURDERED children and people would find your joke funny. Over 100, 000 civilians dead, oh but , but , but its just civilian collateral damage, (deaths). : injury inflicted on something other than an intended target specifically : civilian casualties of a military operation. These example sentences are selected automatically from various online news sources to reflect current usage of the word 'collateral damage.' Views expressed in ... Fecking brutal, mans inhumanity to man and fecking children, you got kids have you. "A U.S. diplomatic cable made public by WikiLeaks provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi" WikiLeaks: Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Will the arrest of Assange help hide the atrocities uncovered by Wikileaks? Jokes aside , wonder if these MURDERED children and people would find your joke funny. Over 100, 000 civilians dead, oh but , but , but its just civilian collateral damage, (deaths). : injury inflicted on something other than an intended target specifically : civilian casualties of a military operation. These example sentences are selected automatically from various online news sources to reflect current usage of the word 'collateral damage.' Views expressed in ... Fecking brutal, mans inhumanity to man and fecking children, you got kids have you. "A U.S. diplomatic cable made public by WikiLeaks provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi" WikiLeaks: Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says **** off ya roaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 17 hours ago, maroonlegions said: Will the arrest of Assange help hide the atrocities uncovered by Wikileaks? Jokes aside , wonder if these MURDERED children and people would find your joke funny. Over 100, 000 civilians dead, oh but , but , but its just civilian collateral damage, (deaths). : injury inflicted on something other than an intended target specifically : civilian casualties of a military operation. These example sentences are selected automatically from various online news sources to reflect current usage of the word 'collateral damage.' Views expressed in ... Fecking brutal, mans inhumanity to man and fecking children, you got kids have you. "A U.S. diplomatic cable made public by WikiLeaks provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi" WikiLeaks: Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says Good to publicise all that They also published the names and addresses of informants. Does that suggest Wikileaks supports those who might kill them like say the Taliban. Or that they are as reckless as the trigger happy soldiers who killed civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Good to publicise all that They also published the names and addresses of informants. Does that suggest Wikileaks supports those who might kill them like say the Taliban. Or that they are as reckless as the trigger happy soldiers who killed civilians. They unfortunately undo the potential good they could do by being so careless and endangering lives themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 USA only last week revoked the visa of an ICC investigator who was in the country collecting evidence of war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan. International Law itself is at risk these days and if the USA can simply ignore it and receive no consequences for doing so, then the entire system is undermined and International Law ceases to be a thing. (Not that this is AT ALL the first time the USA has ignored International Law, but covering up war crimes would be bad, even for them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Justin Z said: They unfortunately undo the potential good they could do by being so careless and endangering lives themselves. Would argue there's more good than harm done. Innocent lives lost reported by Wikileaks - 66,000 plus Lives lost as a result of information uploaded to Wikileaks - none. There also has to be journalistic freedom to responsibly publish truths about Guantanamo ; Scientology or whatever banking scandal's hitting the news, without fear of shut down or arrest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, felix said: Would argue there's more good than harm done. Innocent lives lost reported by Wikileaks - 66,000 plus Lives lost as a result of information uploaded to Wikileaks - none. There also has to be journalistic freedom to responsibly publish truths about Guantanamo ; Scientology or whatever banking scandal's hitting the news, without fear of shut down or arrest. I definitely agree with your contention in a vacuum, it's just they keep doing this stuff where they dump everything without looking at it and it turns out to be secrets that actually ought to be secrets for the safety of those involved, as opposed to the secrets we as the public ought to be able to see, the ones governments make secrets to protect their own arses. They suck. Far less badly than our governments and their shadiness, but they still suck, and I wish this stuff was getting into the hands of responsible people instead of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Justin Z said: I definitely agree with your contention in a vacuum, it's just they keep doing this stuff where they dump everything without looking at it and it turns out to be secrets that actually ought to be secrets for the safety of those involved, as opposed to the secrets we as the public ought to be able to see, the ones governments make secrets to protect their own arses. They suck. Far less badly than our governments and their shadiness, but they still suck, and I wish this stuff was getting into the hands of responsible people instead of them. Wikileaks never existed in a vacuum though. Before most people had heard of them, they were feeding stories of corruption to The Guardian and later military data to the NY Times & Der Spiegel. One argument heard recently suggested , if Assange goes down - the MSM mentioned above, are also guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 15/04/2019 at 22:54, felix said: Wikileaks never existed in a vacuum though. Before most people had heard of them, they were feeding stories of corruption to The Guardian and later military data to the NY Times & Der Spiegel. One argument heard recently suggested , if Assange goes down - the MSM mentioned above, are also guilty. Agree with your points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 12/04/2019 at 15:37, Cade said: The entire legal case is shaky AF. Relies on a single interpretation of a couple of throwaway comments made years ago. All about the USA lashing out against anybody uncovering their various war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing to do with the (also dodgy) sexual assault claims made in Sweden. On 12/04/2019 at 23:44, Pans Jambo said: He didnt do anything much. Wikileaks released Americas dirty war secrets not Assange personally but uncle Sam wont care. Just needs a scapegoat to incarcerate for a few decades for heehaw & May & her pals will loyally assist. Hes a dead man walking. Didnt do any worse that the NY times or the BBC. Farce. It is strange there has been nothing about say Russia in Ukraine. Would have thought with their great reach Wikileaks could have got some intelligence there. Wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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