U.S. Politics megathread (merged)

[peter_hmfc]

Hurricane Florence will be "tremendously wet".

 

So now you know.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

1 hour ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said:

It's nothing new but it continues to amaze me -his lack of empathy is staggering. He has a absolutely no concept of the human experiences around 9/11. To him it's all just the movie-like quality of the images and the goodies v baddies rhetoric of the aftermath. He doesn't even seem to grasp in the tiniest way that people lost loved ones and lives were changed forever. 

He probably spent 9/11 watching the gorilla channel on TV.

[The Mighty Thor]

9 hours ago, Barack said:

More Presidential actions of comfort, as Trump greets people(supporters) gathered on the tarmac in Pennsylvania, on his way to Flight 93's memorial. 

 

Very Presidential, I'm sure we can all agree:

 

 

 

Saw that last night. 

 

It's been 17 years and time moves on  but WTF?

 

[ri Alban]

8 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

Hurricane Florence will be "tremendously wet".

 

So now you know.

Is she suing him anaw. 

[trotter]

9 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

Hurricane Florence will be "tremendously wet".

 

So now you know.

He's also now claiming that the US response was a 'tremendous success'.

 

When a country of several million people were left almost a year without power and had to rely on private corporations (some dubious and unhelpful) to restore it. Elon Musk had mobile solar plants there to provide essential services in a matter of days.

 

Not to mention the several thousand dead, and many more left homeless. 

 

Although in the interest of fairness, when Harvey hit here last year, HEB (massive superstore chain in Texas) had their disaster response out before FEMA got the finger out. 

[Arse 'Friends' Dyslexic?]

(Not my handiwork).

 

[Boris]

1 hour ago, Arse 'Friends' Dyslexic? said:

(Not my handiwork).

 

 

39 minutes ago, Barack said:

That's savage.

 

It is, but somehow still genius (imo).

[Justin Z]

Alex Jones accidentally shows transgender porn live on InfoWars
 

 

 

Half of Alex Jones’ job is promoting nonsensical conspiracy theories such as a pizza restaurant running a child sex trafficking ring in a basement that doesn’t exist. The other half is selling merch. And there’s nothing wrong with selling merch (you should buy ours in our store!), but the majority of merch Jones sells are supplements whose effects are suspect.

 

While showing off the site on his phone, Jones makes the mistake of minimizing his browser window, and for a brief moment displayed the other tabs he had open.
 

The title reads: Naughty tbabe Marissa Minx relieved of ("cockerel") hunger by stud
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2018 by Justin Z

[Sharpie]

3 hours ago, Arse 'Friends' Dyslexic? said:

(Not my handiwork).

 

 The Vietnnamese must be thanking their god for bone spurs. Can you imagine what they would have had to face if that strong threatening man had served in the military and they had to enter combat with him. How could the presidents of the day not have used a war machine like this.

[Governor Tarkin]

12 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Is she suing him anaw. 

 

[Sharpie]

Bought my copy of Fear today. Got thru about three chapters.Its interesting enough reading, but because its Trump you are not surprised at any of the content

 

[Bridge of Djoum]

On 11/09/2018 at 17:28, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

He probably spent 9/11 watching the gorilla channel on TV.

Where may one find this channel?

 

Asking for a friend...

[Justin Z]

2 hours ago, New York Fleapit said:

Where may one find this channel?

 

Asking for a friend...

 

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/6/16856826/gorilla-channel-trump-fire-and-fury

[Geoff the Mince]

Trump has described the Hurricane as "extremely wet "

[peter_hmfc]

5 dead in Bakersfield (California) shooting.

[Kalamazoo Jambo]

 

Trump now denying - via twitter - that 3,000 people died in Puerto Rico. Another example of how everything has to be about him, his thin skin and his ego.

 

[KineticBeat]

19 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said:

 

Trump now denying - via twitter - that 3,000 people died in Puerto Rico. Another example of how everything has to be about him, his thin skin and his ego.

 

 

It's just extraordinary. 

[peter_hmfc]

33 minutes ago, Kalamazoo Jambo said:

 

Trump now denying - via twitter - that 3,000 people died in Puerto Rico. Another example of how everything has to be about him, his thin skin and his ego.

 

 

Thought you were taking the piss or that you'd fallen for a fake tweet.

 

Holy ****, holy actual ****. Outstanding, absolutely outstanding.

 

"Shithole countries" and exploiting the Bataclan were outstanding lows, but denying the deaths of 3,000 of your own citizens is just... wow.

 

I guess he's got some literature back in his car or in his bag.

[Sharpie]

Trump states he has collected billions, yes billions for Puerto Rico relief, there is no evidence of this anywhere. He also claims it is all a plot by the Democrats to make him look bad. He states it is all lies, if anyone can identify a lie it should be him, he uses lots.

I have had my courses on physchology, and the main thing I learned wa that I definitely did not have the training, or ability to analyse mental health, but having dealt with many with problems I have a strong feeling that this man is on his way to a major breakdown. His achilles heel is criticism and he is open just now to  lots, his second problem is perceived disloyalty and he is facing it through the op-ed and Woodwards book, we are designed to realise when we are reaching a breaking point, good mental helth helps us recognise this, and take action, weakening mental health causes us to deny the problem and dig deeper into it. This as a long time traveller in life is as I see it the problem with the president, he probably deserves more sympathy than the disdain I have for him,but I am weak and will continue to be a severe critic of him.

[peter_hmfc]

3 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

Trump states he has collected billions, yes billions for Puerto Rico relief, there is no evidence of this anywhere. He also claims it is all a plot by the Democrats to make him look bad. He states it is all lies, if anyone can identify a lie it should be him, he uses lots.

I have had my courses on physchology, and the main thing I learned wa that I definitely did not have the training, or ability to analyse mental health, but having dealt with many with problems I have a strong feeling that this man is on his way to a major breakdown. His achilles heel is criticism and he is open just now to  lots, his second problem is perceived disloyalty and he is facing it through the op-ed and Woodwards book, we are designed to realise when we are reaching a breaking point, good mental helth helps us recognise this, and take action, weakening mental health causes us to deny the problem and dig deeper into it. This as a long time traveller in life is as I see it the problem with the president, he probably deserves more sympathy than the disdain I have for him,but I am weak and will continue to be a severe critic of him.

 

[Shanks said no]

 

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

[Shanks said no]

 

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.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

[Eldar Hadzimehmedovic]

Astonishing how insensitive and classless those tweets are. Again though, and this is one of the scariest things for me, he associates academic findings by two prestigious universities as the work of "the Democrats". Terrifying stuff straight from Fascism 101. 

[maroonlegions]

On 11/09/2018 at 20:40, Barack said:

More Presidential actions of comfort, as Trump greets people(supporters) gathered on the tarmac in Pennsylvania, on his way to Flight 93's memorial. 

 

Very Presidential, I'm sure we can all agree:

 

 

 

 

 

[ri Alban]

I wonder if Trump is planning on taking all of us out. Fuming!!! 

[ri Alban]

1 minute ago, Barack said:

He can afford it.

Mr Sharp will be first, I think.

[Sharpie]

15 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Mr Sharp will be first, I think.

 

His trying would be his 38,888th mistake, remember I done my time no bone spurs, learned how to kill with hands, feet, bombs bayonet, and I can if I tried even tell bigger and better lies, and my wife loves me.  I win.

[ri Alban]

4 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

 

His trying would be his 38,888th mistake, remember I done my time no bone spurs, learned how to kill with hands, feet, bombs bayonet, and I can if I tried even tell bigger and better lies, and my wife loves me.  I win.

Well played, superb! 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Spare your tears for Melania. She claimed to be going to visit a detention center where separated children were being held (which she didn't actually go to) and wore a jacket with "I DON'T REALLY CARE, DO U?" written in large letters on the back. She's a golddigger who hit big and yes, is getting dragged along for a public ride instead of living the isolated, empathy-less life of glamour that she thought she was going to get.

 

Also this. (not sure if this will embed...)

 

http://twitter.com/ManInTheHoody/status/1039731755404718080

Edited September 13, 2018 by Ugly American
twitter won't embed

[J.T.F.Robertson]

And I've always felt sorry for her. 

 

[JackLadd]

Dump calling the 2975 Puerto Rico dead fake news. Amazing what this scumbag gets away with.

[Maple Leaf]

24 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

And I've always felt sorry for her. 

 

 

No longer, I hope, Jim.

 

She's married to a liar and an adulterer, who openly admitted to sexually assaulting women.  Yet she stays with him, appears by his side at public events, and acts like the loyal wee wife.  By doing so, she's condoning his outrageous behaviour.  And she does it so that she can share in his money.

[Craig Gordons Gloves]

I wish the media, his own politicians and his own supporters would just come out and call out the fact he’s a liar. He’s genuinely a liar. ****in orange flump prick

[J.T.F.Robertson]

5 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

No longer, I hope, Jim.

 

She's married to a liar and an adulterer, who openly admitted to sexually assaulting women.  Yet she stays with him, appears by his side at public events, and acts like the loyal wee wife.  By doing so, she's condoning his outrageous behaviour.  And she does it so that she can share in his money.

 

Just a wee bit of sarcasm, Ron.  I'll signal () the next time. 

 

[Maple Leaf]

1 minute ago, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

Just a wee bit of sarcasm, Ron.  I'll signal () the next time. 

 

[peter_hmfc]

3 hours ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said:

I wish the media, his own politicians and his own supporters would just come out and call out the fact he’s a liar. He’s genuinely a liar. ****in orange flump prick

 

Astounding still people still believe it's everyone else that's "fake news". The right are atrocious hypocrites when it comes to "fake news" and lying and Trump the by FAR the worst of the lot.

[Sharpie]

Breaking news that Manafort has cut a deal with Mueller.  

[Craig Gordons Gloves]

4 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

Astounding still people still believe it's everyone else that's "fake news". The right are atrocious hypocrites when it comes to "fake news" and lying and Trump the by FAR the worst of the lot.

 

You’re spot on. The trappings of power are more important than morals to them. I know that all politics involves spin but the bare faced lies of this mob are staggering.

[The Real Maroonblood]

15 hours ago, peter_hmfc said:

 

Astounding still people still believe it's everyone else that's "fake news". The right are atrocious hypocrites when it comes to "fake news" and lying and Trump the by FAR the worst of the lot.

This.

[ri Alban]

12 hours ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said:

 

You’re spot on. The trappings of power are more important than morals to them. I know that all politics involves spin but the bare faced lies of this mob are staggering.

That's the point. He's demonised the press, so he can preach to the crayon munchers on twitter and @ these  overly frequent rallies. 

Edited September 14, 2018 by ri Alban

[I P Knightley]

21 hours ago, bobsharp said:

 

His trying would be his 38,888th mistake, remember I done my time no bone spurs, learned how to kill with hands, feet, bombs bayonet, and I can if I tried even tell bigger and better lies, and my wife loves me.  I win.

 

I reckon Melania loves me more than she loves Trump and we've not even met.

[Cade]

Manafort strikes plea bargain deal

 

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

21 minutes ago, Cade said:

Manafort strikes plea bargain deal

 

 

 

Isn't that the guy Trump was praising for not turning!

 

Cue the twitter tirade in 1...........2..............3.

 

[Sharpie]

The reports are a bit conflicting, I posted this late yesterday afternoon, but later in the evening the deal was declared as tentative, he had still not indicated what he had or was willing to offer. From what I understand he was willing to enter a guilty plea, but terms of time to be served etc were all dependent on what evidence he would give. There were some speculating it was to give Trump some incentive to start using the P word. If no deals are reached he will go to jail.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

34 minutes ago, Barack said:

 

Depends what he's been offered. Given up 3 expensive properties, a life insurance policy, and 4 bank accounts so far.

 

Better to be poor, than die in jail, I suppose. 

 

You'd have to be fairly sure (confident/hopeful) Mueller's let him off, (and that's what it is really,) with just that, in return for something(s) that are rather damaging.

 

All rats abandon sinking ships in the end. Self-preservation is best found nowhere else, than in political/elitist society. 

 

How very true, I wonder who Trump will turn on when it's his turn to go down?

[Dawnrazor]

11 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

How very true, I wonder who Trump will turn on when it's his turn to go down?

I don't think he "goes down" 

[milky_26]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

I don't think he "goes down" 

Only for a big Mac and coke

[Sharpie]

O.K. just listened to the current news reports. White House lawyer and communications agent Sanders and Giuliani state these charges and Guilty pleas have nothing to do with the president, which is absolutely true. What is relevant is that no conditions have been reached with Mueller. Manafort has given nothing so far but when he does open up he must give the whole story particularly his time with the Trump campaign. He was at the infamous Tower meeting if he blows that out of the water, young Donald can be charged if with nothing else lying to the Senate. If and he was deep into money from Russians and Ukraineans he states that there was any direct involvement with these people during the campaign especially with Trumps's knowledge the collusion would be proven. Again his direct evidence of that particular meeting if Trump had knowledge the question  of obstruction becomes more likely to be able to have proven.

So far at least one of his estates has been seized by the government an estimated value of ten million dollars. His other assets are also subject to seizure. He is apparently broke, and has difficulty paying his exorbitant legal fees, so even if he gets off with the current charges he still has serious problems, a Pardon in fact without some monitory compensation is in my mind useless.

Trump may get away with a lot if Kavanaugh gets to the Supreme Court before the manure hits the fan, but members of his family may be jailed for extensive periods, my estimation of Trump is he does not really care who goes under the bus as long as it ain't him, however even Republicaans in Congress and the Senate have to sit up and consider their own futures if the president is proved as a liar, is proved to have colluded with Russia, and again if the relationship with Putin is linked to Putins power over Trump is due to the exchange of cash for favors. As was said by myself and others the adage follow the money was always the key to this whole farce of a Trump presidency, show us your tax returns Dondo, here comes the judge, here comes the judge. ( taken from Laugh In1970's)

 

[Bridge of Djoum]

On 13/09/2018 at 07:07, peter_hmfc said:

5 dead in Bakersfield (California) shooting.

There's already a thread on gun control etc.

 

Uhh, you started it..

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

[milky_26]

4 minutes ago, Barack said:

 

"Rudy Giuliani, Trump's lawyer for the Russia probe, said: "Once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump campaign."

"The reason: the President did nothing wrong and Paul Manafort will tell the truth," Giuliani said.

Within minutes of Giuliani issuing that statement, another Trump lawyer, Jay Sekulow, sent a "corrected statement" to reporters that said the same thing but omitted the words "and Paul Manafort will tell the truth."

 

 

 

There may be trouble ahead

But while there's moonlight and music

And love and romance

Let's face the music and dance.

 

 

Jared Kushner, & Donald Junior next, please. 

 

Then...

Melania will dispute the love and romance