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portobellojambo1
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He seems to be a player that is creating quite extreme responses at both ends of the spectrum. Some in favour of him are possibly going a wee bit overboard, and yet more recently there has been huge negative responses due to a link placed on here. I said earlier in this thread I wouldn't be disappointed if he did arrive but neither would I be disappointed if he didn't. In the link placed on here he spoke positively about both us and Rangers, which in itself suggests he just wants to go somewhere to play football. I agree with others who have said it is highly unlikely Rangers will try to sign both Steve Davis and Adam (someone at work told me today the Davis deal has been done, but clearly it hasn't as yet). My thoughts remain the same if he does sign I won't be disappointed by that, but there again if he goes somewhere else so be it. But to react negatively to a link in which he spoke positively about both clubs seems a bit strange.

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To Be Frank
4 hours ago, Prof said:

The last thing we need at Tynecastle is another over the hill elderly ex "up to their knees" player. We should be encouraging our talented  young players not bringing ex- Huns so the bigots in Section N are happy.

 

I really hope this was tongue-in-cheek! ?

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Pasquale for King
3 hours ago, JyTees said:

 

 

Quite probably the most bizzare post of the year and would be gobsmacked if it's beaten over the next 12 months.

 

Congratulations Prof, and special mention to PfK for agreeing.

It’s only been two days, give me a week ??

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Pasquale for King
33 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said:

He seems to be a player that is creating quite extreme responses at both ends of the spectrum. Some in favour of him are possibly going a wee bit overboard, and yet more recently there has been huge negative responses due to a link placed on here. I said earlier in this thread I wouldn't be disappointed if he did arrive but neither would I be disappointed if he didn't. In the link placed on here he spoke positively about both us and Rangers, which in itself suggests he just wants to go somewhere to play football. I agree with others who have said it is highly unlikely Rangers will try to sign both Steve Davis and Adam (someone at work told me today the Davis deal has been done, but clearly it hasn't as yet). My thoughts remain the same if he does sign I won't be disappointed by that, but there again if he goes somewhere else so be it. But to react negatively to a link in which he spoke positively about both clubs seems a bit strange.

He was positive about Levein, not Hearts.

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johnthomas
5 hours ago, DC_92 said:

 

Yes, an article in which Naismith says all the same stuff Adam is saying. That hasn't worked out too badly.

To put it mildly !

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tcjambo
1 hour ago, Smithee said:

He's a Dundee fan, on record as wanting to play for them before he retires

Niemi is on record as wanting to play for us before he retires too. Djoum is on record as wanting a new contract with us.  Footballers do splaff some shit.

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tcjambo
10 minutes ago, johnthomas said:

To put it mildly !

Naismith is not Adam though. SN is a bright lad - not sure about CA.

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Nookie Bear

 

2 hours ago, Top Corner said:

Charlie Adam lives and breathes Rangers. 

Do you want another Lafferty? He's probably worse than Lafferty in that regard actually. 

 

Forget him. 

 

Apart from being a boyhood Dundee fan. 

 

Do do I want someone to come in and do a great job for a season and then move on for big profit? Yes. 

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johnthomas
1 hour ago, tcjambo said:

Naismith is not Adam though. SN is a bright lad - not sure about CA.

Correct

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GavK1012
4 hours ago, Top Corner said:

Charlie Adam lives and breathes Rangers. 

Do you want another Lafferty? He's probably worse than Lafferty in that regard actually. 

 

Forget him. 

 

....and the winner of the most ???? post of 2019 so far is......

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Smithee
6 hours ago, tcjambo said:

Niemi is on record as wanting to play for us before he retires too. Djoum is on record as wanting a new contract with us.  Footballers do splaff some shit.

Not really the point I was making though, he's a Dundee fan

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jamborich
6 hours ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

 

Apart from being a boyhood Dundee fan. 

 

Do do I want someone to come in and do a great job for a season and then move on for big profit? Yes. 

Big profit.how

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jambmoz

I think we’d be better giving this one a body swerve, he’s only interested in one thing and it ain’t us. 

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Wham Bam Austin McCann

Right, as I said his brother works in my work. Asked him as soon as I got in for the low-down.

 

He said he thinks he'll end up at Hearts. He said it all depends on Stoke paying off the rest of his contract as he won't leave unless he gets it, but he says based on when he spoke to Charlie Hearts have offered him a good deal.

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Nookie Bear
1 hour ago, jamborich said:

Big profit.how

 

How much did we buy/sell Lafferty for?

 

We got a good year and some money out of it. 

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doctor jambo

Lets face it - we cannot tell how good/bad he would be.

For every success from the EPL there has been a catastrophe.

 

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Clerry Jambo

No surprise but the papers this morning ramping up the Charlie to Huns story  - would love the post earlier about us being a strong possibility becoming reality

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pettigrewsstylist

Articles i have read with alleged quotes seem to have him issuing open call to Sevco. Let them have him for me. Spend money on someone who is keener to impress and progress in Maroon.

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Newton51

I would prefer not to sign Adam and give Cochrane a run in the team for rest of season if can keep him fit

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cocobeab
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Wham Bam Austin McCann said:

Right, as I said his brother works in my work. Asked him as soon as I got in for the low-down.

 

He said he thinks he'll end up at Hearts. He said it all depends on Stoke paying off the rest of his contract as he won't leave unless he gets it, but he says based on when he spoke to Charlie Hearts have offered him a good deal.

 

Did he not just say to the press that there’d been no contact from any club? Why would he say that if he was happy with what we’d offered?

Edited by cocobeab

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franko1874
1 minute ago, cocobeab said:

 

Did he not just say to the press that there’d been no contact from any club? Why would he say that if he was happy with what we’d offered?

 

To let sevco know he's still available 

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Wham Bam Austin McCann
6 minutes ago, cocobeab said:

 

Did he not just say to the press that there’d been no contact from any club? Why would he say that if he was happy with what we’d offered?

 

Only passing on what I have been told. His brothers words were "i think he will go to Hearts".

 

Whether that is anything to go by what they have spoke about in private or whether or not thats just what he thinks I don't know, but I believe it would hold more substance than newspaper speculation. He did say though that unless he gets the remainder of his contract paid to leave early he is going nowhere.

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cocobeab
2 minutes ago, Wham Bam Austin McCann said:

 

Only passing on what I have been told. His brothers words were "i think he will go to Hearts".

 

Whether that is anything to go by what they have spoke about in private or whether or not thats just what he thinks I don't know, but I believe it would hold more substance than newspaper speculation. He did say though that unless he gets the remainder of his contract paid to leave early he is going nowhere.

 

?

For avoidance of doubt I wasn’t doubting your input at all. Just progressing the discussion. 

Appreciate you taking time to do likewise. Fitba fans love a bit of speculation. All good fun. 

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Mikey1874

St Mirren not mentioned yet. 

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JamboSpur

Is Charlie Adam the offspring of Andy Goram.

 

The both look as rough as auld tatties.

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Phil Dunphy

I’d take him. I think just about every team in the league would take him based on his pedigree and experience. 

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scott herbertson
45 minutes ago, Wham Bam Austin McCann said:

 

Only passing on what I have been told. His brothers words were "i think he will go to Hearts".

 

Whether that is anything to go by what they have spoke about in private or whether or not thats just what he thinks I don't know, but I believe it would hold more substance than newspaper speculation. He did say though that unless he gets the remainder of his contract paid to leave early he is going nowhere.

 

Thanks for the updates. I’m in the doubtful category re whether that’s the right way to use any funds we have spare but it’s good to know we have the bargaining power to attract players of his calibre

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Paulp74

From what Charlie Adam has said himself, there seems to be no substance to this story at all and it appears we haven't even spoken to him or his agent yet!

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Paolo
4 minutes ago, Paulp74 said:

From what Charlie Adam has said himself, there seems to be no substance to this story at all and it appears we haven't even spoken to him or his agent yet!

Given how much he is waxing lyrical about joining Rangers, I’d rather it stayed that way. 

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Ribble
1 hour ago, Newton51 said:

I would prefer not to sign Adam and give Cochrane a run in the team for rest of season if can keep him fit

 

No reason both couldn't happen. If Djoum has turned down a new deal then would happily see a central midfield 3 of Adam Haring and Cochrane. 

 

Regardless, at 17 Cochrane doesn't NEED to play week in week out to develop, he's shown he has the footballing ability to play first team football but this seasons injuries have shown what can happen with too much football/training when a teenagers body is growing and developing. Not only that but part of developing as a player includes not only learning from other players but also learning to fight for a place in the team against older, more experienced players.

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Hector Riva
1 hour ago, Newton51 said:

I would prefer not to sign Adam and give Cochrane a run in the team for rest of season if can keep him fit

Spot on. Moving forward.

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Debut 4

Harry Cochrane would benefit playing beside a player of Adam’s quality.  

 

Cochrane is still very young and it’s easy to forget that because he was heavily involved last season. 

 

Aside from injury problems,  CL probably and deliberately stepped Harry down a bit from first team duties and signing a few midfielders in the summer told you that would happen also.  

 

Unless you are something really special you are only going to be drip fed at 17 years of age. 

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Roman1874

CL In talks now with Charlie Adam 

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LarrysRightFoot
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Roman1874 said:

CL In talks now with Charlie Adam 

I think he will have been in unofficial talks for a while.

 

That interview the other day when he said there’s been no contact is a standard media response.

Edited by LarrysRightFoot

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OmiyaHearts

I’d be delighted if he signed. He would improve the squad and our starting 11. It’s a no brainer for me.

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GorgieRules22
7 minutes ago, Roman1874 said:

CL In talks now with Charlie Adam 

We’re are you getting this from ?

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All roads lead to Gorgie

I think if Cochrane and Adam swapped diets for a month they we could have the perfect midfield partnership. :)

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cosanostra

I don't think CL would want him an I'd doubt he's fit or a good role model.

If he was fit and focused he'd be a great signing but i just don't see that happening.

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BigAlim
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If we do bring him in then we're setting ourselves up very narrowly imo, you can't drop Djoum or Haring on current form, Adam would be too expensive to sit on the bench and on top of that Cochrane, Lee and even Bozanic are useful players to bring in when they're on it, stark contrast with our wide options who haven't really shown much at all to deserve a start

 

Option 1 would be:

 

_____________Keeper

 

Smith__Souttar__Berra__Garuccio 

 

_____Djoum__Haring__Adam

 

____________Naismith 

 

________Ikpeazu__Vanecek

 

Option 2:

 

___________Keeper

 

Dikamona__Souttar__Berra

 

Smith__Haring__Adam__Garuccio

 

____________Djoum

 

______Naismith__Ikpeazu/Vanecek

 

Option 3:

 

______________Keeper

 

__Smith__Souttar__Berra__Garuccio

 

Morrison__Haring__Adam__Mitchell

 

_________Naismith__Ikpeazu

 

Could go on forever tbh, it's good to have options but for me I think wide areas are the ultimate priority, God knows how we'll set up if Lee or Clare hit form or if Dunne returns but at the end of the day any XI with wide players in it isn't our best and that's a bit of a problem imo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by BigAlim

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Boris
26 minutes ago, Debut 4 said:

Harry Cochrane would benefit playing beside a player of Adam’s quality.  

 

Cochrane is still very young and it’s easy to forget that because he was heavily involved last season. 

 

Aside from injury problems,  CL probably and deliberately stepped Harry down a bit from first team duties and signing a few midfielders in the summer told you that would happen also.  

 

Unless you are something really special you are only going to be drip fed at 17 years of age. 

 

This.  

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alwaysthereinspirit
19 minutes ago, cosanostra said:

I don't think CL would want him an I'd doubt he's fit or a good role model.

If he was fit and focused he'd be a great signing but i just don't see that happening.

Well he certainly wont be mistaken for Don Cowie.

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Blair835

People wanting harry cochrane to get a run of games need to remember he is only 17 and not yet ready for full 1st team duties, to expect him to play week in week out and be a standout is abit silly imo and lets face it, if charlie adam does sign it can only benefit harry in the future, i very much doubt itll hinder his progression

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Seymour M Hersh
Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said:

We’re are you getting this from ?

 

An empty head.

Edited by Seymour M Hersh

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Calebs Grandad

To rule out signing a player as his allegiance lies outwith Tynecastle? We didn’t do that badly with the wee guy Robbo who supported Hibs as a kid, played for Edina Hibs and was offered his first ever contract by Hibs. 

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LarrysRightFoot
8 minutes ago, Calebs Grandad said:

To rule out signing a player as his allegiance lies outwith Tynecastle? We didn’t do that badly with the wee guy Robbo who supported Hibs as a kid, played for Edina Hibs and was offered his first ever contract by Hibs. 

That old myth.

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Roman1874
44 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said:

We’re are you getting this from ?

My friend, who is married to Charlie Adams cousin 

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Icon of Symmetry
10 minutes ago, Calebs Grandad said:

To rule out signing a player as his allegiance lies outwith Tynecastle? We didn’t do that badly with the wee guy Robbo who supported Hibs as a kid, played for Edina Hibs and was offered his first ever contract by Hibs. 

 

It’s amazing how often the Robbo supported Hibs myth gets repeated on here. He was never a Hibs supporter. That’s from the great man himself.

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DC_92

I know he's a hacking ******* on the pitch but where does the "poor role model"/"worse than Lafferty" stuff come from?

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Thommo414
3 hours ago, cocobeab said:

 

Did he not just say to the press that there’d been no contact from any club? Why would he say that if he was happy with what we’d offered?

Thats what I thought as well but I guess it could all be spin? If Stoke know he's happy with what hearts have on the table, they'd probably dig their heels in and say he can take or leave whatever (if any) severance they deem fit. By denying any knowledge of an offer it kinda keeps the ball in his court as he could claim he's uncertain of any future income etc and could well be relying for a while on what he gets from Stoke

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Morgan
9 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said:

 

It’s amazing how often the Robbo supported Hibs myth gets repeated on here. He was never a Hibs supporter. That’s from the great man himself.

That’s correct.

 

He supported Liverpool as a wee boy.

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