Chuck Berry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Miserable away to St.Mirren, humiliated away to Livingston, embarrassed at home to bottom club Dundee. Why do the support accept this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Don’t win on Saturday and questions rightly will be asked. Naismith is back to run the team, so we will win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Biscuits not happy with how poor Vanecek was, not fit after having time to train before he arrived, ok he has to get fit but sometimes a player can show how good or bad he is very early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 talking about fascist jambos saw jkb in full effect tonight when one disgruntled customer section t main stand ,left early and denounced the dictator and his cast of thousands loudly no doubt for the malfunctioning of yet another team formation from the manager. happy clapper fascist sitting adj in one the rows section t shouts towards him to gtf and promptly ridicules the unhappy supporter and the sycophants around him all had a nice little chuckle..... well they aint fakn smiling now are they shocking stuff tonight,hmfc totally exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Craig can't sack himself and defo won't walk away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 How long will it take for Budge to take action or are we stuck with the status quo for the foreseeable future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Craig can't sack himself and defo won't walk away Hence why Budge should use her authority and remove him, I'd say the majority wouldn't lose too much sleep if she did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, dustybin said: Hence why Budge should use her authority and remove him, I'd say the majority wouldn't lose too much sleep if she did! But she won't...she's a craigsheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Craig Levein explained he substituted David Vanecek early during Hearts' 2-1 defeat to Dundee because "he was rubbish." Way to go Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Chuck Berry said: Craig Levein explained he substituted David Vanecek early during Hearts' 2-1 defeat to Dundee because "he was rubbish." Way to go Craig. And he bought him and played him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Naismith is back to run the team, so we will win. We should offer Naismith a player-manager / coach role. He seems to be the only one at our club that can get anything out of this set of players. Utterly hopeless when he’s not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 "But we gave up ten opportunities to pass the ball forward in the first ten minutes. We went sideways, went back, and that gave Dundee hope. " Well it's your ******* job to coach them to go forwards, but you don't do that Craig do you? prefer not to lose a goal than attack teams. You're a dinosaur. GTF and take those gimps of a coaching staff with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 He keeps pulling the odd big result out the bag , like Easter Road to save his skin. He is gong absolutely nowhere im afraid . The team he has assembled, without Haring, Naisy and possibly Souttar is utterly horrendous. Berra looks shot since his injury but still gets pass marks tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ramrod said: He keeps pulling the odd big result out the bag , like Easter Road to save his skin. He is gong absolutely nowhere im afraid . The team he has assembled, without Haring, Naisy and possibly Souttar is utterly horrendous. Berra looks shot since his injury but still gets pass marks tbf Lets be honest, we werent exactly dominant in that win either. He has gotta go at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Am beginning to get a pissed off with CL’s constant tinkering. No doubt there will be changes again on Saturday - because there has to be. However, the constant shuffling of the team only weakens it and doesn’t bring any benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesy1874 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 For me at the moment no, however if we finish bottom 6 his position will seriously have to be looked at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 He's unsackable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I think the fall looks so much worse after some maniacs on here were going on about "pushing Celtic if we start well after the break". Levein going is utterly pointless at this stage and not even a thought in Annes mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Bluesy1874 said: For me at the moment no, however if we finish bottom 6 his position will seriously have to be looked at. 4th or bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, indianajones said: Lets be honest, we werent exactly dominant in that win either. He has gotta go at the end of the season. Why wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Tactics and Subs where woeful and that falls at one persons door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getintaethem Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The football is awful. Not once in the first half did we try to build from the back and outplay a team who have struggled all season. Instead we punted it long at every opportunity, playing right into the hands of their big centre halves. Our game plan seems to be to hit it long and hope for a lucky break. That's the managers fault. How many times does he change formation during the games. That's telling you he's starting with the wrong one. We need another clear out at the end of the season. It's ridiculous the amount of changes we need to make year on year. we're crying out for an experienced winger, but won't get one. mid table finish looking likely and another year without European football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Could someone do better with this team? IMO yes Today should have been 3-4 easy, and if Levein was an attacking minded inspirational coach it would have been. I wouldn't be against seeing him going back upstairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Weir Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Literally nothing would make him sackable in the eyes of some. Therein lies the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Wilde Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Killie have a handful of decent players and a squad of journeymen pros. Hearts have a handful of decent players and a squad of journeymen pros. The relative merits of each player in the Killie squad (most of whom we couldn't name if asked) can be debated vs their equivalents in the Hearts squad, but basically there's little or nothing between the merits and abilities of each squad. The difference is plain enough. Killie have Steve Clarke getting the absolute maximum from every player, the absolute maximum from the team as a whole, and maximum tactical effectiveness and effort in every game they play. We have Craig Levein who is somehow managing to do very little of that indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, John mcCartney said: talking about fascist jambos saw jkb in full effect tonight when one disgruntled customer section t main stand ,left early and denounced the dictator and his cast of thousands loudly no doubt for the malfunctioning of yet another team formation from the manager. happy clapper fascist sitting adj in one the rows section t shouts towards him to gtf and promptly ridicules the unhappy supporter and the sycophants around him all had a nice little chuckle..... well they aint fakn smiling now are they shocking stuff tonight,hmfc totally exposed You do realise that was his mate shouting at him for a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Berry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Danny Wilde said: Killie have a handful of decent players and a squad of journeymen pros. Hearts have a handful of decent players and a squad of journeymen pros. The relative merits of each player in the Killie squad (most of whom we couldn't name if asked) can be debated vs their equivalents in the Hearts squad, but basically there's little or nothing between the merits and abilities of each squad. The difference is plain enough. Killie have Steve Clarke getting the absolute maximum from every player, the absolute maximum from the team as a whole, and maximum tactical effectiveness and effort in every game they play. We have Craig Levein who is somehow managing to do very little of that indeed. Bang on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDF01 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, John mcCartney said: talking about fascist jambos saw jkb in full effect tonight when one disgruntled customer section t main stand ,left early and denounced the dictator and his cast of thousands loudly no doubt for the malfunctioning of yet another team formation from the manager. happy clapper fascist sitting adj in one the rows section t shouts towards him to gtf and promptly ridicules the unhappy supporter and the sycophants around him all had a nice little chuckle..... well they aint fakn smiling now are they shocking stuff tonight,hmfc totally exposed It was a mate of the disgruntled fan who shouted at him to gtf as well as some other comments to wind him up. The disgruntled guy was walking down the steps and didn’t realise that it was his mate shouting comments at him....hence the laughing. I can tell you now that there weren’t any happy fans in section t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 telling it how i saw it mate ,im up near the top of t whatever the goings on,the scene that unfolded i thought was apt for this cesspit of a place and i say that in the best possible taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffers Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just back to the car which needs scraped before a journey home... miserable and cold... **** you hearts, **** you very much to every player and coach involved tonight... gutless wankers... chocking on every penny of my FOH contribution but i still beleive in Anne Budge thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkie64 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 There's a semi decent squad of players at Tynecastle, a few promising youngsters, and some good seasoned pros (good players at their previous clubs etc) who train together week after week under the direction of 3 coaches & Levein, but habitually under perform and seemingly look clueless if there's no Naismith on the park. There's no denying we had a great start to the season and yes we've had our fair share of injuries, but there is enough depth in our squad to cover for such events and imo questions have to be asked of our coaches & their coaching methods. We have one way of playing and when he is injured or suspended we have no plan B. We are no better or worse than we were under Cathro, and remind me who was on the coaching staff then? How many decent players with good reps & promising youngsters have we seen in recent years come to Hearts and have watched as their talent & confidence have dwindled until they have looked like shells of their former selfs. The problem lies indoors at Tynecastle and until it's addressed there will be no change, Of course this is only my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: We should offer Naismith a player-manager / coach role. He seems to be the only one at our club that can get anything out of this set of players. Utterly hopeless when he’s not there. Pretty good shout. With Berra as his assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, S Form said: Am beginning to get a pissed off with CL’s constant tinkering. No doubt there will be changes again on Saturday - because there has to be. However, the constant shuffling of the team only weakens it and doesn’t bring any benefits. Well done, that must be the most nonsensical post I've read on here tonight. He needs to stop making changes He needs to make changes. Changes are bad. Make your mind up ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 For me the Livi result wasn’t a sackable result - a freak 20 minutes after a harsh red card, and really one for the players to take most of the blame for. however, tonight’s result has put CL under huge pressure - the manner of the defeat more than anything. If we lose on Saturday I think we may see a change. Bring someone in who is more likely to succeed in the cup which has never been Levein’s forte and could be our only chance of salvaging something from the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I usually keep clear from these Levein threads but that tonight was shocking and he takes a huge amount of blame. Its clear as day that without Naismith he has no clue and no chance of 3 points. And it’s getting clearer every game. Tactically getting found wanting hugely. That tonight was a lot worse than the Livingston 5-0 defeat. Hes now on eggshells for me. I gave him every benefit when we had the injuries. Vanacek has let him down big style to be fair. Turning up after all his social media bravado in the state he has is nothing short of a disgrace and the last thing CL needed or deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDF01 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, John mcCartney said: telling it how i saw it mate ,im up near the top of t whatever the goings on,the scene that unfolded i thought was apt for this cesspit of a place and i say that in the best possible taste I’m telling how it was mate - I sit directly behind the 2 guys we’re talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I don’t see any point in changing manager now. I’d rather we focussed on sorting out the player recruitment side of the club and hope Craig can turn things around. If not, then change at the end of the season. In the meantime, I hope Craig is spending plenty time on the training pitch sorting this shower out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 23 hours ago, Chuck Berry said: Miserable away to St.Mirren, humiliated away to Livingston, embarrassed at home to bottom club Dundee. Why do the support accept this? No idea but one thing for sure he isn’t the right guy to be running out club The football is garbage we can hardly string 2 passes together ........ Constantly changing tactics djoum Naismith out on the wing He is on the clock now that’s for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 21 hours ago, graygo said: Well done, that must be the most nonsensical post I've read on here tonight. He needs to stop making changes He needs to make changes. Changes are bad. Make your mind up ffs. To be fair he has a good point how can any team get consistent with the constant changes You watch Kilmarnock they play the same way must weeks same as rangers Celtic Aberdeen so why do we persist with this nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 See Va Va Voom just got punted by Monaco...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 22 hours ago, graygo said: Well done, that must be the most nonsensical post I've read on here tonight. He needs to stop making changes He needs to make changes. Changes are bad. Make your mind up ffs. You’re right - I wasn’t really clear. My thought is that we need to have a specific style of play (hopefully an entertaining one) and our strongest team playing it week in, week out. Levein seems to make changes on a whim - last night he dropped Garrucio and brought in Mitchell to no discernible effect; what is the point? My remark about having to make changes for Saturday is that there’s no way he can have the same side as last night, given how shit we were. Naismith will be back, Souttar will start and, since he’s ‘rubbish’ and unfit, it would be daft to have Vanecek in the team. That will be at least three changes and there will probably be more. I’m just longing for the day when I can predict what our team will be and be pretty certain that they’ll put in a decent prerformance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Out of interest when was the last time we had a good manager in everyone’s opinion? I’m not convinced we’d end up with better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB1to4 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, DalryJambo said: Out of interest when was the last time we had a good manager in everyone’s opinion? I’m not convinced we’d end up with better than what we have. Sergio? Burley? I'd assume that was in everybody's opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 JJ was proving to be a great manager with his 1998 team but he had the rug pulled out from under him by the board. CL has had a good long time now and money to spend to build us a competitive side. He has failed. I'm giving him to the end of the season. Just maybe, when everyone is back and settled, we will hit our stride again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I’m sick of Leveinball - get rid. Total clearout of the coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Mr Levein will plod along getting a few results here and there just doing enough to keep his head above water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 People need to be wary of what they wish for....Budge has made the plans for ongoing succession pretty clear...it will be from within..so Austin or Daly. Therefore, if Levein was to leave (highly unlikely after 1 defeat in 4), we can forget about Steve Clarke, Jose Mourinho or anyone else on some JKB wishlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie White Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I’d rather have Alexander than Doyle I’d rather have Paterson than Smith I’d rather have Eckersley than Mitchell or Garuccio I’d rather have Walker, Gomis, Bauben & Holt than any of our current midfielders bar Djoum I’d rather have Nicholson than Morrison I’d rather have King than Mulraney I’d rather have Sow than McLean I’d rather have Zeefuik than Wighton or Clare Our player recruitment since we gained promotion in ’15 has overall been simply appalling and one of the main reasons we are currently going through such a difficult period. Only Naismith, Haring, Berra & Soutar would improve the 2015 squad in my opinion. If we are going to improve dramatically then the scouting system must do the same or we will continue to be mid table. The club also prides itself on its youth system, but where is the talent? Either loaned out or simply not good enough. We are reliant on one player (Naismith) to turn the team around. With all the players that have come and gone in the past 4 years that’s just not good enough. I appreciate we operate in a blame culture these days and as the DOF is in charge of the footballing side the buck must stop at his door. He’s taken on board that title so he has to take on board the crap that goes with it. And the thought of Daly or McPhee as management replacements does not inspire at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Archie White said: I’d rather have Alexander than Doyle I’d rather have Paterson than Smith I’d rather have Eckersley than Mitchell or Garuccio I’d rather have Walker, Gomis, Bauben & Holt than any of our current midfielders bar Djoum I’d rather have Nicholson than Morrison I’d rather have King than Mulraney I’d rather have Sow than McLean I’d rather have Zeefuik than Wighton or Clare Our player recruitment since we gained promotion in ’15 has overall been simply appalling and one of the main reasons we are currently going through such a difficult period. Only Naismith, Haring, Berra & Soutar would improve the 2015 squad in my opinion. If we are going to improve dramatically then the scouting system must do the same or we will continue to be mid table. The club also prides itself on its youth system, but where is the talent? Either loaned out or simply not good enough. We are reliant on one player (Naismith) to turn the team around. With all the players that have come and gone in the past 4 years that’s just not good enough. I appreciate we operate in a blame culture these days and as the DOF is in charge of the footballing side the buck must stop at his door. He’s taken on board that title so he has to take on board the crap that goes with it. And the thought of Daly or McPhee as management replacements does not inspire at all. Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 As much as I admire Craig Levein for his passion and enjoy the way he winds up other managers referees etc it is time for a change Recruitment policy has been awful Youngsters not coming through Style of football is terrible Constant changing team shape Players out of position Fear of playing attacking football When you read ex players comments they don’t get what’s going on .Most tv pundits criticising about how slow and predictable we are. To me the tactics look like lump it up top and see what happens .... Many threads on this and maybe one too many but he needs to go now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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