Blackford Hearts Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 05/11/2018 at 20:21, ando said: Do you think clubs would act differently if players refused to wear the club top advertising drink, gambling or any thing that they were against. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374711/Muslim-footballer-Papiss-Cisse-refuses-wear-Newcastle-Wonga-shirt-pictured-GAMBLING-casino.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 13 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Think you’ll find that I don’t disagree with that point. Just because Marxism has failed doesn’t mean that right wing politics are ok. Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced? <----------------USA. Over that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced? Go and have a read about the rise of right wing populism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Go and have a read about the rise of right wing populism. Just answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 5 hours ago, John Findlay said: <----------------USA. Over that way. Nonsense John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 22 hours ago, John Findlay said: Bit like Scotland and certain areas of England. We're just cannon fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced? How would you know if they've been silenced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Nonsense John. Trump is like Put in. Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, John Findlay said: Trump is like Put in. Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter. Hardly silencing free speech though is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Just answer the question. I have mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 hours ago, John Findlay said: Trump is like Put in. Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter. Come on. Critics of Trump have been silenced? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: I have mate. Where? I asked you for countries where right wing governments have silenced dissenters. You've yet to name a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Where? I asked you for countries where right wing governments have silenced dissenters. You've yet to name a country. You would have been quicker just reading up on the rise of right wing populism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 52 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: You would have been quicker just reading up on the rise of right wing populism. Deflecting a lot here aren't you. Just back up your claim. Thats all I'm asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Deflecting a lot here aren't you. Just back up your claim. Thats all I'm asking. What claim? I commented that suppressing speech was too right wing for me and you’ve invited the rest. The only person talking about right wing countries has been you. Right wing politics has been successfully suppressed for a long period after the fall of Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain. However the rise of right wing populism in Europe and South America, in response to immigration fears, has seen a surge in ‘right wing’ politics. The most obvious example, as you’re so adamant that you deserve one, is the election of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/nov/07/brazil-artists-death-threats-censorship-intimidation-jair-bolsonaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 11 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: What claim? I commented that suppressing speech was too right wing for me and you’ve invited the rest. The only person talking about right wing countries has been you. Right wing politics has been successfully suppressed for a long period after the fall of Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain. However the rise of right wing populism in Europe and South America, in response to immigration fears, has seen a surge in ‘right wing’ politics. The most obvious example, as you’re so adamant that you deserve one, is the election of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/nov/07/brazil-artists-death-threats-censorship-intimidation-jair-bolsonaro So your example of right wing silencing is a man elected to office days ago who is not officially sworn in yet? And a link to the grauniad to boot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: So your example of right wing silencing is a man elected to office days ago who is not officially sworn in yet? And a link to the grauniad to boot!! I gave two historical examples and one very current example. Add in all other countries where right wing populism is taking hold. Im unsure to your point regarding any of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 05/11/2018 at 13:14, Mikey1874 said: Quite similar to McLean - British armed forces kill people from his town. Eh, no. It was a NATO exercise. Not Britain. On 05/11/2018 at 13:22, Mikey1874 said: Not really. Derry is part of Britain. Loads of Irish people come here. Derry doesn't exist. You're talking about Londonderry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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