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On 05/11/2018 at 20:21, ando said:

Do you think clubs would act differently if players refused to wear the club top advertising drink, gambling or any thing that they were against.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2374711/Muslim-footballer-Papiss-Cisse-refuses-wear-Newcastle-Wonga-shirt-pictured-GAMBLING-casino.html

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Seymour M Hersh
13 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Think you’ll find that I don’t disagree with that point. Just because Marxism has failed doesn’t mean that right wing politics are ok.

 

Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced?

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22 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced?

<----------------USA. Over that way.

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55 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced?

 

 

Go and have a read about the rise of right wing populism.

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6 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Ok. could you point me in the direction of these "right wing" countries where dissenting voices are silenced?

How would you know if they've been silenced. 

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18 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Nonsense John. 

Trump is like Put in.  Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter.

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Seymour M Hersh
Just now, John Findlay said:

Trump is like Put in.  Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter.

 

Hardly silencing free speech though is it? 

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3 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Trump is like Put in.  Disagree with him and you pick up your P45. Also being trashed on twitter.

Come on. Critics of Trump have been silenced? Really?

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Seymour M Hersh
2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

I have mate.

 

Where? I asked you for countries where right wing governments have silenced dissenters. You've yet to name a country. 

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6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Where? I asked you for countries where right wing governments have silenced dissenters. You've yet to name a country. 

 

You would have been quicker just reading up on the rise of right wing populism.

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Seymour M Hersh
52 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

You would have been quicker just reading up on the rise of right wing populism.

 

Deflecting a lot here aren't you. Just back up your claim. Thats all I'm asking. 

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1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Deflecting a lot here aren't you. Just back up your claim. Thats all I'm asking. 

 

What claim? I commented that suppressing speech was too right wing for me and you’ve invited the rest. The only person talking about right wing countries has been you. Right wing politics has been successfully suppressed for a long period after the fall of Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain. However the rise of right wing populism in Europe and South America, in response to immigration fears, has seen a surge in ‘right wing’ politics. The most obvious example, as you’re so adamant that you deserve one, is the election of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/nov/07/brazil-artists-death-threats-censorship-intimidation-jair-bolsonaro

 

 

 

 

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Seymour M Hersh
11 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

What claim? I commented that suppressing speech was too right wing for me and you’ve invited the rest. The only person talking about right wing countries has been you. Right wing politics has been successfully suppressed for a long period after the fall of Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain. However the rise of right wing populism in Europe and South America, in response to immigration fears, has seen a surge in ‘right wing’ politics. The most obvious example, as you’re so adamant that you deserve one, is the election of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/nov/07/brazil-artists-death-threats-censorship-intimidation-jair-bolsonaro

 

 

 

 

 

So your example of right wing silencing is a man elected to office days ago who is not officially sworn in yet?

 

And a link to the grauniad to boot!! 

 

:rofl:

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13 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

So your example of right wing silencing is a man elected to office days ago who is not officially sworn in yet?

 

And a link to the grauniad to boot!! 

 

:rofl:

 

I gave two historical examples and one very current example. Add in all other countries where right wing populism is taking hold. Im

unsure to your point regarding any of this? 

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On 05/11/2018 at 13:14, Mikey1874 said:

Quite similar to McLean - British armed forces kill people from his town. 

 

Eh, no. It was a NATO exercise. Not Britain.

 

On 05/11/2018 at 13:22, Mikey1874 said:

 

Not really. Derry is part of Britain. Loads of Irish people come here. 

 

Derry doesn't exist. 

 

You're talking about Londonderry.

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