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FarmerTweedy
On 02/02/2019 at 00:53, NaturalOrder74 said:

He honestly just seems to be getting more and more class every game, the goal against Livingston has boosted his confidence. We were surely due a good player sooner or later with all the three year deals on Sammon, Martin etc 

Souttar, Berra, Smith, Haring, Uche, Djoum, to name just a few! 

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wallace_mercer

He took his goal so well 

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Alan_R
2 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

 

 

 

 

You ok lads?x

Fine. He was brutal in the game in question.

 

I hope he continues to improve.

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The Future's Maroon
1 hour ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Get a life you saddo. I think you will find Trolling is banned. Multi Trolling??  You seem to forget this forum is for all Hearts supprters. We have the same aspirations. People like you do nothing for JKB apart from promoting JKB is for @srseh0les......

 

What exactly do you hope to gain? Admiration from the rest of the people who have far too much time on their hands? Perhaps you could get a job, or a wife - but that is as unlikely as you allowing others to express their opinions.

 

I bet you think you are a big hit for yourself...............Phil fae Dunphy has spoken!!

 

 

Fantastic start to your post, especially considering how it continued ?

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Steve_Jersey_HMFC

What’s his “inject it” celebration all about? A tribute to our lochend neighbours?

 

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Mr Elwood P
6 hours ago, fabienleclerq said:

He was never shite, you could always see he had the touch of a good player. We just had to let him get fit and give him game time.

 

Indeed. Players such as Djoum and Clare allow you to identify the clued up or the clueless posters on JKB and edit your reading of posts accordingly. 

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jamboinglasgow
1 hour ago, hearts00 said:

As his fitness has improved he has gained pace. He always glided when he ran like a proper athlete but just lacked the half a yard. He now not only goes away from players but is great at closing down in the advanced position he was playing last night. 

 

His goal against Livingston and last night is clear evidence of a player who has some class. He even has a reasonable dig on his left side making him somewhat two footed. 

 

There is tremendous potential with this lad and I don’t think we have any idea how good he could be. 

 

I sense playing alongside Naismith and Uche he could be very valuable in the coming few months.  

 

And I can’t wait to see him after a full pre season. 

 

completely agree.  He is showing his ability and the more confidence and games he get the better and more important he becomes. His goal against Kilmarnock shows how he handle when he gets the ball with a bit of space to take on players in the middle.

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1971fozzy

When Uche comes back the space his presence will free up for Clare and Naismith will see us score plenty. Get Haring back , and Lee playing and there’s goals aplenty in the side. I’m very excited about this second half to the season. 

Im even more excited if we have all these players available on the 6th April that we will hand the vermin an arse skelping like never before

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Mauricio Pinilla
5 hours ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Get a life you saddo. I think you will find Trolling is banned. Multi Trolling??  You seem to forget this forum is for all Hearts supprters. We have the same aspirations. People like you do nothing for JKB apart from promoting JKB is for @srseh0les......

 

What exactly do you hope to gain? Admiration from the rest of the people who have far too much time on their hands? Perhaps you could get a job, or a wife - but that is as unlikely as you allowing others to express their opinions.

 

I bet you think you are a big hit for yourself...............Phil fae Dunphy has spoken!!

 

 

:rofl:

 

Folk utterly unable to cope with Clare coming good after slinging endless shite at him. Tough times for some right now. 

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Peebo
7 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Indeed. Players such as Djoum and Clare allow you to identify the clued up or the clueless posters on JKB and edit your reading of posts accordingly. 

Something of a stretch to compare the situation with that of Djoum, who despite being one of our best players for years still gets regular abuse from the wilfully ignorant. 

 

All about opinions, but appraising Clare’s early performances doesn’t suggest cluelessness. He was very poor in a number of games. Last few games have generally been a massive step up from him, even without his excellent, and important, goals. It’s great to see. 

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:D got to love Kickback. He's had a couple of good games and now we have a witch hunt for who criticised him.

 

I think given our track record with special signings - Osh, Martin and Amankwaa, people had a right to be sceptical. 

 

I'm glad he seems to be finding his feet and Leveins man management here has been first class.

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Icon of Symmetry
34 minutes ago, Peebo said:

appraising Clare’s early performances doesn’t suggest cluelessness. He was very poor in a number of games. Last few games have generally been a massive step up from him, even without his excellent, and important, goals. It’s great to see. 

 

He has been excellent though. His flicks and through balls have helped us keep the ball in the forward positions. Naismith has helped him massively, there’s no doubting that, but Naismith has also benefitted from him stepping up, as Clare has released him with good balls in on goal. Not just Naismith either, Mulraney, Lee and Djoum have all been beneficiaries of his clever attacking play. He is excellent with the ball played in to his feet, but he even manages to do something with the high balls shelled at him from Berra and Shaughnessy, which would be completely wasted otherwise. He brings the ball down and makes good forward passes in attack. He’s a big part in us finally managing to make the ball stick up front again. When we lost Uche and Naismith, that wasn’t happening. Naismith must just be pleased that he doesn’t have to do it all himself, as Clare lightens the load on him a little.

 

I can’t speak for Dunphy or Dodger, but as they both go to games, then they probably have to listen to the same pish from the same diddies that I do when I’m there. Clare gets some amount of undue criticism at games, bordering on plain abuse.  Where I sit, it’s always tinged with some idiotic comments about him thinking he’s better than he is. You can’t spend the entire game debating with supporters who make ignorant comments like that, but a football fans’ forum is dedicated to exactly that.

 

Again I am not speaking for anyone else but myself here, but part of the frustration is that supporters continually refuse to even entertain the idea a player can be good, but just needs time to adjust to a new club and league. There is also little sympathy or understanding given to players returning from serious injuries. It takes time, they are not machines. It happens time and time again on here; ‘don’t see it with player x, y or z’, ‘they are shite’. That’s it, that’s the level of understanding or debate offered on the subject, sometimes caveated with ‘would love to be proven wrong’ or something.

 

Of course often when these premature summations are decisively proven wrong, the poster of such platitudes turn out to be bitter about being proven wrong, and not loving it at all.

 

I can totally understand why some posters are lapping up his good displays just now, they have recognised that there was ‘a player in there’ and stated as much, whilst others were sharting out the ‘He’s shite’ stuff. 

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29 minutes ago, OTT said:

I think given our track record with special signings - Osh, Martin and Amankwaa, people had a right to be sceptical. 

 

Why though? Clare isn’t Osh, Martin or Amankwaa. He wouldn’t be judged on how well those players did for us. He should be judged on his own ability and performances. Clare came here whilst returning from a serious injury, from a different league and country. His early displays were those of a guy trying to regain his confidence, match sharpness and fitness, whilst adjusting to a new league and team mates. He showed flashes, and that is what some people recognised, and what prompted them to say that they ‘see a player in there’ or similar. Now, those flashes are increasing in to being his general play, and it’s obvious that the rest was indeed just rustiness.

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Peebo
1 hour ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said:

 

He has been excellent though. His flicks and through balls have helped us keep the ball in the forward positions. Naismith has helped him massively, there’s no doubting that, but Naismith has also benefitted from him stepping up, as Clare has released him with good balls in on goal. Not just Naismith either, Mulraney, Lee and Djoum have all been beneficiaries of his clever attacking play. He is excellent with the ball played in to his feet, but he even manages to do something with the high balls shelled at him from Berra and Shaughnessy, which would be completely wasted otherwise. He brings the ball down and makes good forward passes in attack. He’s a big part in us finally managing to make the ball stick up front again. When we lost Uche and Naismith, that wasn’t happening. Naismith must just be pleased that he doesn’t have to do it all himself, as Clare lightens the load on him a little.

 

I can’t speak for Dunphy or Dodger, but as they both go to games, then they probably have to listen to the same pish from the same diddies that I do when I’m there. Clare gets some amount of undue criticism at games, bordering on plain abuse.  Where I sit, it’s always tinged with some idiotic comments about him thinking he’s better than he is. You can’t spend the entire game debating with supporters who make ignorant comments like that, but a football fans’ forum is dedicated to exactly that.

 

Again I am not speaking for anyone else but myself here, but part of the frustration is that supporters continually refuse to even entertain the idea a player can be good, but just needs time to adjust to a new club and league. There is also little sympathy or understanding given to players returning from serious injuries. It takes time, they are not machines. It happens time and time again on here; ‘don’t see it with player x, y or z’, ‘they are shite’. That’s it, that’s the level of understanding or debate offered on the subject, sometimes caveated with ‘would love to be proven wrong’ or something.

 

Of course often when these premature summations are decisively proven wrong, the poster of such platitudes turn out to be bitter about being proven wrong, and not loving it at all.

 

I can totally understand why some posters are lapping up his good displays just now, they have recognised that there was ‘a player in there’ and stated as much, whilst others were sharting out the ‘He’s shite’ stuff. 

While I don’t get why you highlighted that bit, this is all fair enough.

 

For me, I think people are conflating others saying player X was shite in this game or that sequence of games with them saying the player is never going to be anything other than shite. Of course some will have written Clare off, but opining that he was shite in many of his appearances for us doesn’t necessarily mean that he was getting written off. 

 

As said before, any right-thinking Hearts fan will be lapping up his recent improvement and vital goals. That he’s been much better last few games doesn’t negate his earlier poor performances (for which there were various mitigating reasons). Likewise, just because someone doesn’t set the heather alight in their first few appearances, they shouldn’t be written off.

 

For a number of posters, it’s one extreme or the other. People have written him off, and others have proclaimed he will be a “legend”. The hype around him, and general slavering on here, meant that this was inevitable. Most folks probably just go by what they see on the pitch, and can recognise the reality. 

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Phil Dunphy
39 minutes ago, Peebo said:

For a number of posters, it’s one extreme or the other. People have written him off, and others have proclaimed he will be a “legend”. The hype around him, and general slavering on here, meant that this was inevitable. Most folks probably just go by what they see on the pitch, and can recognise the reality

 

Colour me sceptical on that front.

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Mr Elwood P
2 hours ago, Peebo said:

Something of a stretch to compare the situation with that of Djoum, who despite being one of our best players for years still gets regular abuse from the wilfully ignorant. 

 

All about opinions, but appraising Clare’s early performances doesn’t suggest cluelessness. He was very poor in a number of games. Last few games have generally been a massive step up from him, even without his excellent, and important, goals. It’s great to see. 

 

That's why the 'clued up' are now sitting back so smug. They could identify through his early performances, where he admittedly struggled, that he was indeed a player. For me it was his ability to get the ball into feet and then glide forward with it. These posters have nailed their colours to the mast that he would come good. Other posters the 'clueless' identified him as another dud, a terrible signing, waste of money, too lightweight etc ... They also nailed their colours to the mast and now have to accept that they were wrong. The last five or six games he has really come alive and I think he will be a brilliant signing over the next year or so. This is all without even mentioning that he is very young, hasn't played many professional football matches and has just come back from a major injury.

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Icon of Symmetry
1 hour ago, Peebo said:

While I don’t get why you highlighted that bit, this is all fair enough.

 

For me, I think people are conflating others saying player X was shite in this game or that sequence of games with them saying the player is never going to be anything other than shite. Of course some will have written Clare off, but opining that he was shite in many of his appearances for us doesn’t necessarily mean that he was getting written off. 

 

As said before, any right-thinking Hearts fan will be lapping up his recent improvement and vital goals. That he’s been much better last few games doesn’t negate his earlier poor performances (for which there were various mitigating reasons). Likewise, just because someone doesn’t set the heather alight in their first few appearances, they shouldn’t be written off.

 

For a number of posters, it’s one extreme or the other. People have written him off, and others have proclaimed he will be a “legend”. The hype around him, and general slavering on here, meant that this was inevitable. Most folks probably just go by what they see on the pitch, and can recognise the reality. 

Re the highlighted bit, I was tired. Was a mistake. ?

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Smithee

I wasn't one who swore he'd come good, because you never really know - I'd have thought that Tziolis coming good was obvious for example, but he never did. I did say there was obviously a real footballer in there though. 

 

It was clear he wasn't in the right head space, he was on the back foot and second guessing everything.

But in the games I saw there was always at least one moment where he suddenly had the ball without the time to trip himself up thinking, just instinctive reaction, and he showed delightfully fast feet and subtlety of touch. 

My worry was that the breakthrough wouldn't come soon enough for his confidence, but it's happened now and I think we're going to see some very exciting stuff from this guy.

 

So yeah, I feel pretty justified in having a wee bit of a smug about it. 

 

:verysmug:

 

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Lambo85

I didnt see the game so can only comment on his goal which was a class act.

 

Hopefully this is the start of the lad coming good for us.

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WageThief
4 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Get a life you saddo. I think you will find Trolling is banned. Multi Trolling??  You seem to forget this forum is for all Hearts supprters. We have the same aspirations. People like you do nothing for JKB apart from promoting JKB is for @srseh0les......

 

What exactly do you hope to gain? Admiration from the rest of the people who have far too much time on their hands? Perhaps you could get a job, or a wife - but that is as unlikely as you allowing others to express their opinions.

 

I bet you think you are a big hit for yourself...............Phil fae Dunphy has spoken!!

 

 

We must have some very easy to please members, if they think gowestjambo either had a good post above, or is progressing.

 

No one wants him to fail, we all hope the hype around him will be justified. - Me? I just cant see a poster in there.

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Phil Dunphy

"Slating players mercilessly is perfectly fine, but being pulled up for that is just trolling."

 

- gowestjambo, 2019.

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gowestjambo
17 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

:seething:

 

Personal abuse is against the rules chum. Pointing out that you got it wrong with yet another Hearts player isn't trolling, sorry :) 

 

Lets stick to the facts - theres a good idea. I said Michael Smith deserved a new deal, but I would have preferred a better player than him.

 

The Jury is hardly back screaming and shouting that in Clare we have found the new Rudi Skacel. Two very good goals does not make up for being anonymous game after game.

 

Opinions are one thing, but you seem to take an unhealthy pleasure in arguing with fellow fans. The epitome of the Keyboard Warrior, I bet you dont wander into the Tynecastle Arms or the Merchie and act like that. 

 

Why Troll through 5 other quotes? What exactly do you get out of it? As I said previously you must have a very sad existence.

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Phil Dunphy
11 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Lets stick to the facts - theres a good idea. I said Michael Smith deserved a new deal, but I would have preferred a better player than him.

 

The Jury is hardly back screaming and shouting that in Clare we have found the new Rudi Skacel. Two very good goals does not make up for being anonymous game after game.

 

Opinions are one thing, but you seem to take an unhealthy pleasure in arguing with fellow fans. The epitome of the Keyboard Warrior, I bet you dont wander into the Tynecastle Arms or the Merchie and act like that. 

 

Why Troll through 5 other quotes? What exactly do you get out of it? As I said previously you must have a very sad existence.

 

Still not able to admit you were wrong then? Sound.

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Phil Dunphy
24 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Lets stick to the facts - theres a good idea. I said Michael Smith deserved a new deal, but I would have preferred a better player than him.

 

On 27/11/2018 at 16:05, gowestjambo said:

Strange to see all the support for him. 

 

On 27/11/2018 at 23:27, gowestjambo said:

If Michael Smith is the standard of player Hears supporters aspire to, it is a reflection of their ambitions for the team.

 

On 28/11/2018 at 18:31, gowestjambo said:

Me wanting a better Full Back than Michael Smith ? - You are damn right I do. And that says it all about me. You can keep your mediocrity. 

 

On 29/11/2018 at 12:39, gowestjambo said:

I suggested Michael Smith represented mediocrity.

 

Except you didn't, you said he represented mediocrity.

 

I await you responding with more "stop trolling me, wahhhhh!" drivel.

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9 hours ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said:

 

Why though? Clare isn’t Osh, Martin or Amankwaa. He wouldn’t be judged on how well those players did for us. He should be judged on his own ability and performances. Clare came here whilst returning from a serious injury, from a different league and country. His early displays were those of a guy trying to regain his confidence, match sharpness and fitness, whilst adjusting to a new league and team mates. He showed flashes, and that is what some people recognised, and what prompted them to say that they ‘see a player in there’ or similar. Now, those flashes are increasing in to being his general play, and it’s obvious that the rest was indeed just rustiness.

 

I think because the signings I mentioned were regarded as special - Amankwaa seemed to fit in with the ethos of talented players whose career hadn't quite taken off in the way it should have and it has seemed like every time we've tried to follow this strategy its blown up spectacularly - Martin on a 3 year deal and he won't take the hint. 

 

You are totally correct in what you are saying - that players are individuals and should be judged as such. Sadly, I don't think people work like that and to many we were seeing another player come through that didn't have it when it counts. Thankfully, as you say the various factors which were leaving us underwhelmed are becoming less of an issue and he's really starting to kick on. 

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1 hour ago, OTT said:

 

I think because the signings I mentioned were regarded as special - Amankwaa seemed to fit in with the ethos of talented players whose career hadn't quite taken off in the way it should have and it has seemed like every time we've tried to follow this strategy its blown up spectacularly - Martin on a 3 year deal and he won't take the hint. 

 

You are totally correct in what you are saying - that players are individuals and should be judged as such. Sadly, I don't think people work like that and to many we were seeing another player come through that didn't have it when it counts. Thankfully, as you say the various factors which were leaving us underwhelmed are becoming less of an issue and he's really starting to kick on. 

 

Yeah, that’s fair enough. ?

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1 hour ago, OTT said:

 

I think because the signings I mentioned were regarded as special - Amankwaa seemed to fit in with the ethos of talented players whose career hadn't quite taken off in the way it should have and it has seemed like every time we've tried to follow this strategy its blown up spectacularly - Martin on a 3 year deal and he won't take the hint. 

 

You are totally correct in what you are saying - that players are individuals and should be judged as such. Sadly, I don't think people work like that and to many we were seeing another player come through that didn't have it when it counts. Thankfully, as you say the various factors which were leaving us underwhelmed are becoming less of an issue and he's really starting to kick on. 

 

Agreed that grouping Clare, Osh, Martin and Amankwaa together, as some people seem to want to do with any signings who don't hit the ground running, makes no sense. Oshaniwa had played at a high level but seemed to believe his own hype, which you can't really predict. Amankwaa was a cheap prospect with some experience who had a trait - speed (supposedly) - that we really needed. Clare was obviously a youngster with some very obvious good traits who we bought to develop.

 

It's Martin for me who stands out as probably our most baffling signing since admin. Romanov-esque in fact in terms of the contract length.

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1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Agreed that grouping Clare, Osh, Martin and Amankwaa together, as some people seem to want to do with any signings who don't hit the ground running, makes no sense. Oshaniwa had played at a high level but seemed to believe his own hype, which you can't really predict. Amankwaa was a cheap prospect with some experience who had a trait - speed (supposedly) - that we really needed. Clare was obviously a youngster with some very obvious good traits who we bought to develop.

 

It's Martin for me who stands out as probably our most baffling signing since admin. Romanov-esque in fact in terms of the contract length.

 

Apparently Cathro wanted to build the team around Martin

 

:rofl:

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ToqueJambo
19 minutes ago, RobNox said:

 

Apparently Cathro wanted to build the team around Martin

 

:rofl:

 

Christ, Cathro was like a guy believing he can play Voodoo Child or something after two guitar lessons. He was handed a great opportunity at Hearts and just had to take a bit of time to learn the ropes instead of trying to impose some mystical footballing ethos on the players that only he understood.

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5 hours ago, gowestjambo said:

 

Lets stick to the facts - theres a good idea. I said Michael Smith deserved a new deal, but I would have preferred a better player than him.

 

The Jury is hardly back screaming and shouting that in Clare we have found the new Rudi Skacel. Two very good goals does not make up for being anonymous game after game.

 

Opinions are one thing, but you seem to take an unhealthy pleasure in arguing with fellow fans. The epitome of the Keyboard Warrior, I bet you dont wander into the Tynecastle Arms or the Merchie and act like that. 

 

Why Troll through 5 other quotes? What exactly do you get out of it? As I said previously you must have a very sad existence.

You are the one who spends a lot of time on here slagging off Hearts players which I find pretty sad.  Mind you I am one of the smug ones who said from day one he was a player

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gowestjambo
23 hours ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

 

 

 

 

Except you didn't, you said he represented mediocrity.

 

I await you responding with more "stop trolling me, wahhhhh!" drivel.

 

You are a Troll, and a crushing bore. Only a Saddo goes back months into last year to find previous posts. You obviously have very little else to do with your time.

 

As I expressed before what do expect to get out of it? Some acclaimation from the Troll society?

 

Whatever your motive is using this forum - I see you dont even pay a penny to contribute to it.  Brilliant - Trolled by a Freeloader.......

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Cruyff Turn

So is this boy still a shite carthorse? 

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Cruyff Turn
19 hours ago, RobNox said:

 

Apparently Cathro wanted to build the team around Martin

 

:rofl:

Only because Martin became a wonderkid on his 2004 Footie Manager save. 

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Skippy Doodle
34 minutes ago, gowestjambo said:

 

You are a Troll, and a crushing bore. Only a Saddo goes back months into last year to find previous posts. You obviously have very little else to do with your time.

 

As I expressed before what do expect to get out of it? Some acclaimation from the Troll society?

 

Whatever your motive is using this forum - I see you dont even pay a penny to contribute to it.  Brilliant - Trolled by a Freeloader.......

I’m not backing either corner here but the irony of you checking his profile for contributions at the same time as pulling him up for his thorough searches to bring you to task is hopefully not lost on you mate ?

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brownkg
5 hours ago, Skippy Doodle said:

I’m not backing either corner here but the irony of you checking his profile for contributions at the same time as pulling him up for his thorough searches to bring you to task is hopefully not lost on you mate ?

You do realise it shows on every post you make whether you are a subscriber or not hence you being  another  "registered user"

 

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Skippy Doodle
6 minutes ago, brownkg said:

You do realise it shows on every post you make whether you are a subscriber or not hence you being  another  "registered user"

 

Haha no mate but consider myself educated on it now ??

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Cruickshank for Scotland
On 04/02/2019 at 02:48, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

:rofl:

 

Folk utterly unable to cope with Clare coming good after slinging endless shite at him. Tough times for some right now. 

 

Tough times my erse!! I among others had every right to comment on his very poor performances in his first dozen games.

As a Hearts fan I am delighted that he now seems to be “coming good” based on him scoring two excellent goals.

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deejtee

As one who was underwhelmed earlier it has been good to see his progress although he will have to maintain it to see off the challenge of the squad getting back to full strength. I wonder if the current Vanecek situation of overhyping leading to too great an early expectation rings a bell and thus come of Craigs current statements?

In amongst the vitriol and self proclaimed smugness one has to remember we are all Hearts fans all be it with differing opinions.

My big climb down would have been when Cathro led us to the league and cup double..a narrow escape for my credibility?

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Cruickshank for Scotland
1 hour ago, deejtee said:

As one who was underwhelmed earlier it has been good to see his progress although he will have to maintain it to see off the challenge of the squad getting back to full strength. I wonder if the current Vanecek situation of overhyping leading to too great an early expectation rings a bell and thus come of Craigs current statements?

In amongst the vitriol and self proclaimed smugness one has to remember we are all Hearts fans all be it with differing opinions.

My big climb down would have been when Cathro led us to the league and cup double..a narrow escape for my credibility?

 

Nice post. ?

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Gershwin
On 04/02/2019 at 02:48, Mauricio Pinilla said:

 

:rofl:

 

Folk utterly unable to cope with Clare coming good after slinging endless shite at him. Tough times for some right now. 

 

There's a boy the row behind me that has an aneurysm every time Clare touches the ball. Looking forward to asking him tomorrow if he enjoyed goal at Killie. 

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graygo
10 hours ago, gowestjambo said:

 

You are a Troll, and a crushing bore. Only a Saddo goes back months into last year to find previous posts. You obviously have very little else to do with your time.

 

As I expressed before what do expect to get out of it? Some acclaimation from the Troll society?

 

Whatever your motive is using this forum - I see you dont even pay a penny to contribute to it.  Brilliant - Trolled by a Freeloader.......

 

I had typed up a strongly worded reply to this post but have deleted it because I can't be arsed getting into a big discussion about it.

 

See this bit in bold though? Toyally irrelevant and uncalled for.

 

 

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hmfc_liam06

Take a bow Phil D.

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cheetah

I think i said he was pretty poor and ineffective, now that he has been playing better i now think he is Ok and  a wee bit effective.

 

Good to see him coming on to a game, I am sure everyone is happy about that, he is still no world beater though so lets not get carried away.

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Hackney Hearts
3 hours ago, cheetah said:

he is still no world beater though 

 

Who in the current Hearts team is a world beater?

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Phil Dunphy
3 hours ago, cheetah said:

I think i said he was pretty poor and ineffective, now that he has been playing better i now think he is Ok and  a wee bit effective.

 

Good to see him coming on to a game, I am sure everyone is happy about that, he is still no world beater though so lets not get carried away.

 

Absolutely no-one is claiming he’s a world beater. Folk have been, however, claiming that he’s shite. That he’s got no heart. That he’s a complete passenger. And so on. 

 

And while one or two have held their hands up and said he’s proving them wrong, there’s been a deafening silence from those who were falling over themselves to tell us how shite he was now he’s starting to become an important influence. 

 

Apart from one, who’s thrown a complete wobbler and is probably needing a good lie down. 

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Rudolf
1 hour ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

Absolutely no-one is claiming he’s a world beater. Folk have been, however, claiming that he’s shite. That he’s got no heart. That he’s a complete passenger. And so on. 

 

And while one or two have held their hands up and said he’s proving them wrong, there’s been a deafening silence from those who were falling over themselves to tell us how shite he was now he’s starting to become an important influence. 

 

Apart from one, who’s thrown a complete wobbler and is probably needing a good shag

FTFY

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Phil Dunphy
3 minutes ago, Rudolf said:

FTFY

 

If you’re going to take one for the team then who am I to stop you? 

 

:jjyay:

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Rudolf
45 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said:

 

If you’re going to take one for the team then who am I to stop you? 

 

:jjyay:

:laugh:

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TurboT

Scored a good goal on Friday but doesn’t offer enough, hides far too often and seems scared to take a touch rather than back himself.

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Thommo414

It must just be convenient for him to be singled out because there's a thread always floating in the first two pages but of all people, not the first one that should be criticised tonight 

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