trotter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Rob said: Medic 1 doesn’t get NHS funding because they have never been able to show any evidence that it improves outcomes. Operating in car parks is macho as all hell, but not necessarily a better option than actually taking the patient to hospital. There are a couple of situations where this sort of thing really is justified, but not as many as you might think. Without wishing to derail the thread... Theres probably a decent number of people still walking around who may disagree with your assessment, but I do get your point. But as you point out, the very small number of cases where it does intervene it CAN make that difference. Its not about trying to fix a gravely injured person at the roadside, it's about keeping them alive long enough to get to a hospital where it can be done properly. 1 hour ago, Husky said: I was not aware medic 1 was still in existence as all the ambulances have at least one paramedic It doesn't carry 'paramedics' as such. The on-call team typically consists of an emergency medicine consultant, a doctor, an anesthesiologist and one or more senior intensive care nurses. The general jist is that if Mohammed can't get to the ICU, you take the ICU to Mohammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, trotter said: It doesn't carry 'paramedics' as such. The on-call team typically consists of an emergency medicine consultant, a doctor, an anesthesiologist and one or more senior intensive care nurses. The general jist is that if Mohammed can't get to the ICU, you take the ICU to Mohammed. Bloody foreigners coming over here and .......... oh wait, it was an analogy wasn't it? The Mohammed and the mountain thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, graygo said: Bloody foreigners coming over here and .......... oh wait, it was an analogy wasn't it? The Mohammed and the mountain thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, sadj said: My dads usually out within a couple days of stents being put in. Just have to ease back into things id think. Least going by his experiences. All depends my friend had 3heart attacks at 21 and she wears a pacemaker type thing that can shock her heart back going again if she has problems and shes a constant seshimal cokehead , pisshead and is always working or out and has no problems. Not being funny mate as this is a terribly serous subject but, what is a seshimal cokehead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, trotter said: Without wishing to derail the thread... Theres probably a decent number of people still walking around who may disagree with your assessment, but I do get your point. But as you point out, the very small number of cases where it does intervene it CAN make that difference. Its not about trying to fix a gravely injured person at the roadside, it's about keeping them alive long enough to get to a hospital where it can be done properly. It doesn't carry 'paramedics' as such. The on-call team typically consists of an emergency medicine consultant, a doctor, an anesthesiologist and one or more senior intensive care nurses. The general jist is that if Mohammed can't get to the ICU, you take the ICU to Mohammed. I’m not actually passing comment on the service itself - merely making an observation that I am reasonably certain is accurate. If they could show an evidence base, the NHS would fund it. Consultant-led prehospital services have been growing steadily in recent years, but have consistently failed to demonstrate any actual survival benefit. There was a great deal of excitement a few years ago when one study from Norway did show improved survival, but I don’t think there have been other studies to back this up. Off topic though. EDIT: I don’t doubt that there are a number of high profile cases where the service has made a big difference, but the odd case doesn’t translate to a statistically significant benefit, and that’s what counts when it comes to funding priorities. Edited August 28, 2018 by Doc Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Morgan said: Not being funny mate as this is a terribly serous subject but, what is a seshimal cokehead? She likes to go out on the sesh (partying) seshimal (party animal) cokehead - white powder loving nutjob Edited August 28, 2018 by sadj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, sadj said: She like to go out on the sesh (partying) seshimal (party animal) cokehead - white powder loving nutjob Well Morgan and I have learnt something new tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Well Morgan and I have learnt something new tonight Down wi the kids me likesay ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, sadj said: She like to go out on the sesh (partying) seshimal (party animal) cokehead - white powder loving nutjob you got her number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, WeeChuck'sHeed said: you got her number? Of course ? pretty too , and cracking fake breasticles too ?? Stop derailing the thread before I get into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 To right the carriages on the thread train Long and short is with medicine as it is nowadays fingers crossed that CL will recover fully and have no lasting effects of it if thats what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deso1972 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, sadj said: Of course ? pretty too , and cracking fake breasticles too ?? Stop derailing the thread before I get into trouble. With a weak heart you better guide it up past it.... copyright Billy Connolly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, sadj said: Of course ? pretty too , and cracking fake breasticles too ?? Stop derailing the thread before I get into trouble. Shes only 21 her body can cope for now, in 10 years time it’ll be a different story..... someone should have a word! Anyway Dad chat over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, Rudy T said: Shes only 21 her body can cope for now, in 10 years time it’ll be a different story..... someone should have a word! Anyway Dad chat over. Shes mid to late Twenty’s now. She’s something else. Whole point was that with her electronic heart thingy shes probably safer from normal ailments than most of us ironically enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vladimir of Romanov Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, sadj said: Of course ? pretty too , and cracking fake breasticles too ?? Stop derailing the thread before I get into trouble. Pics or it never happened ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Hearts way Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) On topic..... Third time I've now mentioned the app 'mycamview' for the match on Saturday so the boss can watch the game and be heard from upto 4 cameras, via his phone. HHGH. Get well soon CL. ??? ps 5-1 win .. or our whole team oot and replaced before the windae slams shut.. HHGH. Am I doing this right ?. Edited August 29, 2018 by the Hearts way Ask the clique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Vladimir of Romanov said: Pics or it never happened ? PM me , i am not getting thread banned on a sensitive thread because of you bunch of pervs Edited August 29, 2018 by sadj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcajambo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 From what I heard he has a stent replaced on Monday after feeling a bit unwell, nothing too major and should be back soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, sadj said: Of course ? pretty too , and cracking fake breasticles too ?? Stop derailing the thread before I get into trouble. Fake breests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Morgan said: Not being funny mate as this is a terribly serous subject but, what is a seshimal cokehead? Dunno but if anyone has her number... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, It should have been ten said: Fake breests Know what Im not usually a fan long as the nipple game is strong Im not fussed on sizes , fakees are just good for drumming a beat on ? but its kind of a standard thing in the fitness world and three of my past four “friends” have had and the one here (who is not one of the aforementioned four) got them because of confidence issues after her Heart ops and unless you knew her previous you’d prob not realise so get off the breasts and on topic. See how I managed to get the health issue in there to dtay on topic ?? Edited August 29, 2018 by sadj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, barcajambo said: From what I heard he has a stent replaced on Monday after feeling a bit unwell, nothing too major and should be back soon. That sounds like awesome news ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, sadj said: Know what Im not usually a fan long as the nipple game is strong Im not fussed on sizes , fakees are just good for drumming a beat on ? but its kind of a standard thing in the fitness world and three of my past four “friends” have had and the one here (who is not one of the aforementioned four) got them because of confidence issues after her Heart ops and unless you knew her previous you’d prob not realise so get off the breasts and on topic. See how I managed to get the health issue in there to dtay on topic ?? Haha yes it was duly noted, well played sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 After reading all the comments on here, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only guy above the age of 50 on Kickback who hasn't had a stent put in or had some other type of heart issue! On the other hand, it's great to see that modern medicine is well up to the task if I do. Touching wood as I type... (no Kenneth Williams emojis please) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Hopefully we hear from Ann today. I expect a statement sometime soon saying: - I’ve been to see Craig, he’s in good spirits and desperate to get back but we won’t allow him to rush. He’ll be taken care of by the club and his family, but he’s OK and the prognosis is for a good recovery. He may have a few matches in the stand before going back to the dugout. - We have full confident in Austin and the rest of the coaching team, he’ll do a great job and the players are all pulling in the same direction and are desperate to get a win on Saturday for the gaffer. - We’ve already resigned Demi Mitchell and the admin team at the club are fully aware of Craig’s plans for the last few days of the transfer window and will try to meet his objectives as best we can. Craig is not required to be in the room when we sign players so that part of the business is not affected. - Buy tickets for Saturday. Let’s sell out Tynecastle and give the team the backing they deserve! That’s the message I would put out and Ann’s statements are usually spot on! Edited August 29, 2018 by BigC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, redjambo said: After reading all the comments on here, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only guy above the age of 50 on Kickback who hasn't had a stent put in or had some other type of heart issue! On the other hand, it's great to see that modern medicine is well up to the task if I do. Touching wood as I type... (no Kenneth Williams emojis please) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, redjambo said: After reading all the comments on here, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only guy above the age of 50 on Kickback who hasn't had a stent put in or had some other type of heart issue! On the other hand, it's great to see that modern medicine is well up to the task if I do. Touching wood as I type... (no Kenneth Williams emojis please) I'm 55 and touch wood never had anything wrong with my heart. Apart from stitches, broken left ankle aged 15 and one nose operation. I have to date never had anything life threatening. Very lucky man health wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, redjambo said: After reading all the comments on here, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only guy above the age of 50 on Kickback who hasn't had a stent put in or had some other type of heart issue! On the other hand, it's great to see that modern medicine is well up to the task if I do. Touching wood as I type... (no Kenneth Williams emojis please) Don't worry dude I am like you, so that will be 2 of us then. Slightly difficult to type with one hand on my head though. Make that 3 Edited August 29, 2018 by 7628mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinoJambo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, 7628mm said: Don't worry dude I am like you, so that will be 2 of us then. Slightly difficult to type with one hand on my head though. Make that 3 Me too. I'm 64 and have never been in hospital. The only bone broken was a finger aged 12. Never ill. Probably drop deed the morn now for my cockiness. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 13 hours ago, sadj said: She likes to go out on the sesh (partying) seshimal (party animal) cokehead - white powder loving nutjob Ta! Every day is a school day. 13 hours ago, The Frenchman Returns said: Well Morgan and I have learnt something new tonight Indeed Frenchie! Sort of wish I’d never asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 13 hours ago, sadj said: Shes mid to late Twenty’s now. She’s something else. Whole point was that with her electronic heart thingy shes probably safer from normal ailments than most of us ironically enough. You might have invited her down! The ticket turned up, in a truth is stranger than fiction moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, TorinoJambo said: Me too. I'm 64 and have never been in hospital. The only bone broken was a finger aged 12. Never ill. Probably drop deed the morn now for my cockiness. Oh well. Edited August 29, 2018 by Sir Gio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Now that is just cruel..............................but funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, BigC said: Hopefully we hear from Ann today. I expect a statement sometime soon saying: - I’ve been to see Craig, he’s in good spirits and desperate to get back but we won’t allow him to rush. He’ll be taken care of by the club and his family, but he’s OK and the prognosis is for a good recovery. He may have a few matches in the stand before going back to the dugout. - We have full confident in Austin and the rest of the coaching team, he’ll do a great job and the players are all pulling in the same direction and are desperate to get a win on Saturday for the gaffer. - We’ve already resigned Demi Mitchell and the admin team at the club are fully aware of Craig’s plans for the last few days of the transfer window and will try to meet his objectives as best we can. Craig is not required to be in the room when we sign players so that part of the business is not affected. - Buy tickets for Saturday. Let’s sell out Tynecastle and give the team the backing they deserve! That’s the message I would put out and Ann’s statements are usually spot on! Not enough quotation marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 hours ago, New York Fleapit said: Dunno but if anyone has her number... 06969 069 069 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 39 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: You’re a cruel man Bloody good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinoJambo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Morgan said: You’re a cruel man Bloody good though. Very funny indeed. I think I'll hibernate (No pun intended) early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Sir Gio said: You might have invited her down! The ticket turned up, in a truth is stranger than fiction moment Haha where on earth did it turn up? The car was turned upside down ? she was at Enjoy if that helps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Morgan said: 06969 069 069 If I remember my old school calculators correctly, surely 05318 008618? Edited August 29, 2018 by Normthebarman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 40 minutes ago, TorinoJambo said: Very funny indeed. I think I'll hibernate (No pun intended) early. Better safe than sorry TJ. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: If I remember my old school calculators correctly, surely 05318 008618? I’ve tried to work that one out Norm but alas, no success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Morgan said: I’ve tried to work that one out Norm but alas, no success. 5318008 618 turn your head upside down ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kid Creole said: 5318008 618 turn your head upside down ? Hurt my neck but still not seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, sadj said: Haha where on earth did it turn up? The car was turned upside down ? she was at Enjoy if that helps ? There must be something magnetic in the ticket. Literally stuck to the driver door lower compartment. Rustling for a sweet it came loose. Must have ran my hand over the ticket a dozen times or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Hurt my neck but still not seeing it. Right in front of your eyes a pair of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Right in front of your eyes a pair of them I just know I’m going to get pelters for this, but can’t see it at all. Bet it’s bloody obvious too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Morgan said: I just know I’m going to get pelters for this, but can’t see it at all. Bet it’s bloody obvious too.. Your not going to be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Hearts Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Morgan said: Hurt my neck but still not seeing it. ( . ) ( . ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Your not going to be happy! 21 minutes ago, Whitburn Hearts said: ( . ) ( . ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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