CJGJ Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He's so happy to be with us that he does his 'personal training sessions' in Manchester He had a very good career but should not have been anywhere near our club and to extend his deal was another example of just how standards have been allowed to slip. What amazes me is the attempts by some to still defend him as a player....just madness He could be the nicest man in the world but he's not being paid for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, gedster said: Trying to beat Bobby Moore's cap record can see him getting a cameo fit or otherwise It's a world cup play off. You think Northern Ireland will be giving players cameos? 2 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: We all understand, but we also understand we are in a position when we need everyone digging in to get us out of this situation and there is a SUSPICION that Hughes is focussed more in being fit for NI than Hearts. Will he he make himself available for the Killie game to sharpen himself up, and show his international boss he is ready? So let me get this straight. If he doesn't play for us before joining up with the international squad it shows he's a wage thief putting country before club. If he does play for us before joining up with the international squad it shows he's a wage the if putting country before club. Got to love trial by JKB's kangaroo court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Once again those who have nothing positive to say are out in force! Re AH, every time I have seen him in a Hearts jersey (and that is a lot despite my nom de plume!), he has been a steadying influence on our back line. Souttar for example benefitted hugely by having the guy beside him and only since Hughes has been injured has he regressed. AH strolled through the Aberdeen game and largely due to him we negated anything the second best team in Scotland threw at us. He’s been injured for God’s sake! That doesn’t make him a wage thief. By all accounts he is training again and might even play on Sunday. I hope he does. No doubt before including him in the play off squad, Michael O’Neill will through Austin McPhee have had regular reports on his progress towards towards fitness so no reason why his 107 times capped CB should not be included on current evidence. FFS, folks, we are short of quality players yet some of you are happy to crucify the few we have got even when they are injured! Wage thief my a**e! Just an honest and outstanding pro who has had a bad run of injuries (and before the negative johnnies jump on me because he is 37, didn’t someone of that age make an a**e of us last weekend?) Yours in absolute frustration at the negativity on this forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Marooned Abroad said: Once again those who have nothing positive to say are out in force! Re AH, every time I have seen him in a Hearts jersey (and that is a lot despite my nom de plume!), he has been a steadying influence on our back line. Souttar for example benefitted hugely by having the guy beside him and only since Hughes has been injured has he regressed. AH strolled through the Aberdeen game and largely due to him we negated anything the second best team in Scotland threw at us. He’s been injured for God’s sake! That doesn’t make him a wage thief. By all accounts he is training again and might even play on Sunday. I hope he does. No doubt before including him in the play off squad, Michael O’Neill will through Austin McPhee have had regular reports on his progress towards towards fitness so no reason why his 107 times capped CB should not be included on current evidence. FFS, folks, we are short of quality players yet some of you are happy to crucify the few we have got even when they are injured! Wage thief my a**e! Just an honest and outstanding pro who has had a bad run of injuries (and before the negative johnnies jump on me because he is 37, didn’t someone of that age make an a**e of us last weekend?) Yours in absolute frustration at the negativity on this forum! All absolutely spot on but you do realise you are pissing against the windbags ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdc182 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Marooned Abroad said: Once again those who have nothing positive to say are out in force! Re AH, every time I have seen him in a Hearts jersey (and that is a lot despite my nom de plume!), he has been a steadying influence on our back line. Souttar for example benefitted hugely by having the guy beside him and only since Hughes has been injured has he regressed. AH strolled through the Aberdeen game and largely due to him we negated anything the second best team in Scotland threw at us. He’s been injured for God’s sake! That doesn’t make him a wage thief. By all accounts he is training again and might even play on Sunday. I hope he does. No doubt before including him in the play off squad, Michael O’Neill will through Austin McPhee have had regular reports on his progress towards towards fitness so no reason why his 107 times capped CB should not be included on current evidence. FFS, folks, we are short of quality players yet some of you are happy to crucify the few we have got even when they are injured! Wage thief my a**e! Just an honest and outstanding pro who has had a bad run of injuries (and before the negative johnnies jump on me because he is 37, didn’t someone of that age make an a**e of us last weekend?) Yours in absolute frustration at the negativity on this forum! Well put MA... can’t disagree with any of that. Hope he is fit enough to play on Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, CJGJ said: He's so happy to be with us that he does his 'personal training sessions' in Manchester He had a very good career but should not have been anywhere near our club and to extend his deal was another example of just how standards have been allowed to slip. What amazes me is the attempts by some to still defend him as a player....just madness He could be the nicest man in the world but he's not being paid for that. Maybe be he used Skype to be a positive influence on the younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Dayman said: We have a player who is so good he doesn't need to play or train to get called up but we complain instead He isn’t playing for us though. Do I need to simple it for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Oh dear Nookie Bear. Why so glum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, been here before said: Ha Ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Not been a great signing due to injuries however I've no issue with him being called up, even though it did raise an eyebrow. Like others have said, the interesting part will be if he plays and if he's made himself available for us when he returns. I expect if he does play he will be available and that will be the end of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He’s been a big player for his country over the years, wouldn’t even begrudge him getting a token minute even though he’s injured to break their cap record - he deserves it. Clearly with Hearts we’ve got a player who is well past it but as mentioned when he has played for us he has generally been good - retirement looms large for him now, if we can get 10 more games out of him before the end of the season we’ve done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Folk moaning about this. Another international cap just adds to the fee we'll get when we come to sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Crete said: If he isn’t fit to play for Hearts he shouldn’t play for Northern Ireland. Exactly that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Don’t disagree Hearts 1975. According to reports this morning he might play this Sunday. No doubt McPhee has been keeping O’Neill fully in the picture hence he is in the NI squad. Doesn’t mean he will play but don’t you think on this evidence it would have been crazy to leave their 107 cap man out? Can’t believe some folk on here can’t see the sense of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Marooned Abroad said: Once again those who have nothing positive to say are out in force! Re AH, every time I have seen him in a Hearts jersey (and that is a lot despite my nom de plume!), he has been a steadying influence on our back line. Souttar for example benefitted hugely by having the guy beside him and only since Hughes has been injured has he regressed. AH strolled through the Aberdeen game and largely due to him we negated anything the second best team in Scotland threw at us. He’s been injured for God’s sake! That doesn’t make him a wage thief. By all accounts he is training again and might even play on Sunday. I hope he does. No doubt before including him in the play off squad, Michael O’Neill will through Austin McPhee have had regular reports on his progress towards towards fitness so no reason why his 107 times capped CB should not be included on current evidence. FFS, folks, we are short of quality players yet some of you are happy to crucify the few we have got even when they are injured! Wage thief my a**e! Just an honest and outstanding pro who has had a bad run of injuries (and before the negative johnnies jump on me because he is 37, didn’t someone of that age make an a**e of us last weekend?) Yours in absolute frustration at the negativity on this forum! A voice of sanity, well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, Marooned Abroad said: Don’t disagree Hearts 1975. According to reports this morning he might play this Sunday. No doubt McPhee has been keeping O’Neill fully in the picture hence he is in the NI squad. Doesn’t mean he will play but don’t you think on this evidence it would have been crazy to leave their 107 cap man out? Can’t believe some folk on here can’t see the sense of that! Sorry point taken MA - I assumed from the previous Post I commented on that he was playing the NI game but was out for Killie I remember that Levein said that if he recovered in time for the Killie game then he would be in the NI squad but it all depended on his injury and recovery wasnt having a pop at him or being negative - he's getting on a bit but still got qualities as a player - if he is in the squad due to his experience (caps he has etc) then nothing against that but if he plays then I just think that if your fit enough to play for your Country your fit enough to play for your Club, so if he plays on Sunday no problem with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cheers Hearts 1975. We’re on the same wavelength! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Dr. Sheldon Cooper said: You honestly think with our current injury crisis that Levein would leave Hughes sitting in the stand if he was fully fit so he could keep himself fit for a Northern Ireland match? Delusional. I didnt say anything about Levein. I am talking about Hughes own personal agenda. If you honestly think his main concern is to get himself fit to play Kilmarnock rather than play for Northern Ireland and break the caps record then it is you that is delusional. All he cares about is the record and going to Moscow so he can retire after the World Cup. Hearts are a distant second best to him and that is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Lambo 85, how do you know what he thinks? Are you psychic? Now if you’d expressed that as your opinion, some of us might have taken you seriously but once again you and your like jump to conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Marooned Abroad said: Lambo 85, how do you know what he thinks? Are you psychic? Now if you’d expressed that as your opinion, some of us might have taken you seriously but once again you and your like jump to conclusions. You dont have to be psychic, you just have to open your eyes. If he fails to make the Kilmarnock game on Sunday but plays a part in NI Qualifier against Switzerland a week tomorrow then "me and my like" have every reason to be hacked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 16 hours ago, been here before said: He's got a vast amount of experience at both club and international level which can be used and passed on to other players. Why wouldnt he be in the squad? Spectacularly missing the point. Why is he called up to play for his country when he's been out of action for months for his club? Surely if he's fit for a crucial World Cup qualfying play-off, he's fit for Hearts v Killie, or suchlike? I'm not suggesting that Hughes is a "wage thief", it's just another source of frustration for us right now. If he plays for NI but can't for us, then we're right to ask why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: You dont have to be psychic, you just have to open your eyes. If he fails to make the Kilmarnock game on Sunday but plays a part in NI Qualifier against Switzerland a week tomorrow then "me and my like" have every reason to be hacked off. 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustybin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Get him pumped and bring in a player that will play week in week out, someone who doesn't pick which games he wants to play in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Marooned Abroad said: Once again those who have nothing positive to say are out in force!ad a bad run of injuries ....... Yours in absolute frustration at the negativity on this forum! well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Strachsuit said: Spectacularly missing the point. Why is he called up to play for his country when he's been out of action for months for his club? Surely if he's fit for a crucial World Cup qualfying play-off, he's fit for Hearts v Killie, or suchlike? I'm not suggesting that Hughes is a "wage thief", it's just another source of frustration for us right now. If he plays for NI but can't for us, then we're right to ask why! You've got a point? Being called into a squad isnt a prerequisite of actually playing. For example, and I shall make this spectacularly simple for you, how many full Scotland squads has Jack Hamilton been included in and how many games has he played? As it stands just now he hasnt played for anyone whilst being injured for Hearts, no-one has confirmed he's fit enough to play for N. Ireland. You're getting your little frilly knickers in a twist over smething thar might not happen, demanding your "right to ask why" about nothing just now, getting "frustrated" at thoughts in your head. Edited November 1, 2017 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 One of the many players out of the 50 odd signings under Budge that take much and give little in return. Not only does he (like most) lack commitment and ability he brings absolutely nothing to the table. How did we let this happen? How? After hearing about the very sad loss of Salvatori last night, in my drunken state I put on the Hearts 1998 Cup win on You Tube (not great when you have work early doors next day). I watched the entire game. This game should be played to all these wage thieves and parasites and should be a model for future generations. That is commitment! That is team work! That is what winners look like! Watching Stephane Adam chase back to clear up a misplaced pass from Fulton. Watching our Centre half throw his body into the ball and watching 11 players fight for a cause – heart warming and makes me burst with pride. I honestly can’t watch these players do this to our club a moment longer – it is gut wrenching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Haken said: Folk moaning about this. Another international cap just adds to the fee we'll get when we come to sell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: One of the many players out of the 50 odd signings under Budge that take much and give little in return. Not only does he (like most) lack commitment and ability he brings absolutely nothing to the table. How did we let this happen? How? So he lacks ability does he? How then did he manage to play with distinction in the EPL and get 107 caps? Lacks commitment? Should he have been playing with a calf strain? Get real please. I understand and share your frustration at how the season is going. However the guy has been injured and when he has been fit our defence is much stronger, as I have already pointed out. The season is less than a third over, so why don’t we wait a bit longer till he is fit and shoring up our defence again before making outrageous statements about ability! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Marooned Abroad said: So he lacks ability does he? How then did he manage to play with distinction in the EPL and get 107 caps? Lacks commitment? Should he have been playing with a calf strain? Get real please. I understand and share your frustration at how the season is going. However the guy has been injured and when he has been fit our defence is much stronger, as I have already pointed out. The season is less than a third over, so why don’t we wait a bit longer till he is fit and shoring up our defence again before making outrageous statements about ability! What relevance does his past ability have to us? Apologies if I am missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: What relevance does his past ability have to us? Apologies if I am missing something? Oh dear. I think I should give up. His ability is still good enough for his country but not for Hearts? Don’t make me laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Marooned Abroad said: Oh dear. I think I should give up. His ability is still good enough for his country but not for Hearts? Don’t make me laugh! Call me old fashioned but I judge his ability on the games that we pay him to show it. He has absolutely none of it. I could not give the a rat's ass about UEFA Cup finals or 4 zillion caps for Northern Ireland - he is complete horse shit for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I give up on you. Not a positive thought in your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Sorry, last post aimed at i8hibs. Did you really think he was ‘horse shit’ against Aberdeen? Maybe I was at the wrong game if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Marooned Abroad said: I give up on you. Not a positive thought in your head. Au contraire. I am getting all mushy eyed on another thread talking about teams of yester year. I burst with pride every time I hear names like Stefano Salvatori and Stevie Fulton etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Marooned Abroad said: Sorry, last post aimed at i8hibs. Did you really think he was ‘horse shit’ against Aberdeen? Maybe I was at the wrong game if so. I think I expect more from a Hearts player than one semi good performance in a year and a half. That is our problem man, that is it. Bauben was proobably my stand out player of our Championship season - thought he was outstanding. He is completely horse shit now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marooned Abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: Au contraire. I am getting all mushy eyed on another thread talking about teams of yester year. I burst with pride every time I hear names like Stefano Salvatori and Stevie Fulton etc. Good on you. I enjoyed these times too, as I did when I was lucky enough as a wee boy to stand at the front of the terraces and see Conn Bauld and Wardhaugh etc, having been carried over the turnstiles by my Dad. I get just as frustrated as you do about some of the s***e we have had to put up with since the beginning of last season, but I draw the line at crucifying a proven player like Hughes. As we are both Jambos to the bone can we just call it a draw and hope for better things this Sunday? This isn’t doing my blood pressure much good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Marooned Abroad said: Good on you. I enjoyed these times too, as I did when I was lucky enough as a wee boy to stand at the front of the terraces and see Conn Bauld and Wardhaugh etc, having been carried over the turnstiles by my Dad. I get just as frustrated as you do about some of the s***e we have had to put up with since the beginning of last season, but I draw the line at crucifying a proven player like Hughes. As we are both Jambos to the bone can we just call it a draw and hope for better things this Sunday? This isn’t doing my blood pressure much good! Peace out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, i8hibsh said: One of the many players out of the 50 odd signings under Budge that take much and give little in return. Not only does he (like most) lack commitment and ability he brings absolutely nothing to the table. How did we let this happen? How? After hearing about the very sad loss of Salvatori last night, in my drunken state I put on the Hearts 1998 Cup win on You Tube (not great when you have work early doors next day). I watched the entire game. This game should be played to all these wage thieves and parasites and should be a model for future generations. That is commitment! That is team work! That is what winners look like! Watching Stephane Adam chase back to clear up a misplaced pass from Fulton. Watching our Centre half throw his body into the ball and watching 11 players fight for a cause – heart warming and makes me burst with pride. I honestly can’t watch these players do this to our club a moment longer – it is gut wrenching! Players tend to extenD themselves more than usual in a cup final. Especially when you are winning. I can remember Adam not showing up in league games in Jan/Feb . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Players tend to extenD themselves more than usual in a cup final. Especially when you are winning. I can remember Adam not showing up in league games in Jan/Feb . Our current crop are so far off even reaching a cup final. Preliminary round exits at the hands of Highland league teams is sadly their level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Hmm. So I'm annoyed because its very similar to Djoum's country over club attitude which is infuriating. If Hughes has been fit and is not playing despite the fact we need him, thats a serious dick move and total disrespect to the fans. If he's on a pay as you play contract thats not so bad but still annoying. I get he's on the cusp of breaking a very impressive record but ffs. I hope his experience off the field is worth this and Souttar, Baur etc. are gaining from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: He isn’t playing for us though. Do I need to simple it for you? Because he's injured. How can he play if he's Injured? You think he's pretending he has a pulled hammy to our expert staff and medical team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Lambo85 said: I didnt say anything about Levein. I am talking about Hughes own personal agenda. If you honestly think his main concern is to get himself fit to play Kilmarnock rather than play for Northern Ireland and break the caps record then it is you that is delusional. All he cares about is the record and going to Moscow so he can retire after the World Cup. Hearts are a distant second best to him and that is a fact. You might not be talking about Levein but he is the manager after all. If Hughes was fit he'd be in the matchday squad. It really is as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Honestly baffles me how folk can go through their lives being so angry about stuff that literally doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's been a disaster of a signing and the contract extension was laughable, oshaniwa was probably more deserving of one! It seems like it's the clubs policy that we need to be wasting thousands of pounds a week on utter shite at any one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 18:45, Dayman said: Hes been put in the squad for a game in ten or so days but hasn't played the last couple weeks because of Injury? Do people not realize that injuries heal over time and that a game in 10 days is further in the future than a game last week? Having to simple it down quite a lot here. He's possible to be fit for the game so he's been put in the squad. If fit he will play. What's the issue ? He hasn't played since the Dundee game which was on 30 September fully 4 weeks ago. Yes injuries do heal but when you are nearly 38 they take a lot longer. He should be a Hearts player first and foremost but in his case it seems he is more concerned about getting fit in time to be involved in the NI play offs. I woud imagine that if he is to be selected for NI then he would perhaos have to play a game before the internationals if only to prove his fitness to Michael ONeill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 31/10/2017 at 16:43, rudi must stay said: Maybe he's just there for morale. Has been captain for years so would imagine he is well liked/respected in the dressing room You should be shot for being so sensible. You're showing up the knee-jerkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I've said before it's like he's using hearts to stay fit for NI, not a great shock seeing as MacPhee is also involved, I struggle to even care anymore tbh, the club is a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, wavydavy said: He hasn't played since the Dundee game which was on 30 September fully 4 weeks ago. Yes injuries do heal but when you are nearly 38 they take a lot longer. He should be a Hearts player first and foremost but in his case it seems he is more concerned about getting fit in time to be involved in the NI play offs. I woud imagine that if he is to be selected for NI then he would perhaos have to play a game before the internationals if only to prove his fitness to Michael ONeill If he's fit by the northern Ireland game then o Neill can do whatever he likes. He doesn't need to prove his fitness by platomg for us he has medical staff to do that. He owes absolutely nothing to us on the play off dates. If he's directed by our game he will play. If he's fit by their game he'll play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If he does not play on sunday then plays for his country this thread will go on meltdown, doubt it will happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 He is not particularly exciting when he does play either - slow, weak in the air, and negative safety first on the ball. The contract extension was a poor decision. It is a shame that Ozturk was pushed out. If he could have been developed defensively we could have had an excellent blend with Berra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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