Johnny D Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I can't see past Sir Roger making it 8 titles. If it's not him then hopefully its not Murray who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Rafael Nadal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Djokovic seems to be playing better at the right time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 One of the big three will win it imo. I think it could go to Nadal who has stormed back to form but so has Federer and Djokovic loves turning it on at Wimbledon as we all know. Not often the top three are in form all at once so it should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Raonic, although if Cilic can hold it together he certainly has the serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Federer or Murray for me. The French Open proved that Murray can play himself into form after injuries etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Raonic, although if Cilic can hold it together he certainly has the serve. Cilic is an interesting name to mention. Played superbly at Queens and is mentally tough, wouldn't be shocked if he won it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Hard to predict. Djokovic and Murray are both blowing hot and cold this year. Federer is getting slower as he ages. Nadal is never that good on grass and will probably injure himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 I can't see past Sir Roger making it 8 titles. If it's not him then hopefully its not Murray who wins. Why wouldn't you want Murray to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why wouldn't you want Murray to win? Because his post is a trolling one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny D Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Because his post is a trolling one? Far from it. I'm just not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Far from it. I'm just not a fan. Regardless of that, he is Scottish, an incredibly talented, hard working athlete who has achieved a lot in one of the toughest eras in tennis. Not only that, he seems like a genuine person who maybe doesn't have the most likeable personality (which is why I'm guessing you're not a fan) but it is a great ambassador for Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny D Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Regardless of that, he is Scottish, an incredibly talented, hard working athlete who has achieved a lot in one of the toughest eras in tennis. Not only that, he seems like a genuine person who maybe doesn't have the most likeable personality (which is why I'm guessing you're not a fan) but it is a great ambassador for Scotland. And who says I'm Scottish. Never presume for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Regardless of that, he is Scottish, an incredibly talented, hard working athlete who has achieved a lot in one of the toughest eras in tennis. Not only that, he seems like a genuine person who maybe doesn't have the most likeable personality (which is why I'm guessing you're not a fan) but it is a great ambassador for Scotland. Not a great ambassador for Scotland when he doesn't wear his Scottish saltire sweatbands anymore (although I understand that was his sponsors) and represents 'britain' (whatever that is) in the davis cup and olympics and stands under the union flag celebrating to; god save the queen, which as we all know, talks about crushing rebellious Scots..... Great ambassador. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Not a great ambassador for Scotland when he doesn't wear his Scottish saltire sweatbands anymore (although I understand that was his sponsors) and represents 'britain' (whatever that is) in the davis cup and olympics and stands under the union flag celebrating to; god save the queen, which as we all know, talks about crushing rebellious Scots..... Great ambassador. Ridiculous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Murray is (or has been) super fit in many ways but he's not a natural athlete. He doesn't come close to the natural, graceful athleticism of Federer and some others. Murray's strengths are his explosive speed, quick thinking and mercurial genius. His weaknesses are his serve and periodic fragile mentality. He's beginning to suffer from a number of niggling injuries just as Federer and Nadal did and do. If a fit and concentrated Murray turns up for the tournament then I think he's the favourite. If he isn't near 100% he might not make the second week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Ridiculous post. Statement of fact, as a Scotsman I would never represent england/britain at anything, you're either scottish or not, you can't just randomly represent whomever you deem necessary. Not turning this into a politic though. It's the reason I do not want Murray to win anything as the english media jump on the bandwagon... as they do with everything else. ANyway, as I've said, cilic or raonic definitely have the game and wawrinka can never be excluded, Ima look at the draw and see if it could be an all 'Swiss' final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Statement of fact, as a Scotsman I would never represent england/britain at anything, you're either scottish or not, you can't just randomly represent whomever you deem necessary. Not turning this into a politic though. It's the reason I do not want Murray to win anything as the english media jump on the bandwagon... as they do with everything else. ANyway, as I've said, cilic or raonic definitely have the game and wawrinka can never be excluded, Ima look at the draw and see if it could be an all 'Swiss' final. This is rank ignorance. In tennis you are categorised as British for nationality. He can't chose to be categorised as Scottish. Besides... you are not him and he is not you. It is irrelevant what you would choose to represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Murray is (or has been) super fit in many ways but he's not a natural athlete. He doesn't come close to the natural, graceful athleticism of Federer and some others. Murray's strengths are his explosive speed, quick thinking and mercurial genius. His weaknesses are his serve and periodic fragile mentality. He's beginning to suffer from a number of niggling injuries just as Federer and Nadal did and do. If a fit and concentrated Murray turns up for the tournament then I think he's the favourite. If he isn't near 100% he might not make the second week. Very good description of Andy Murray. The frustrating thing is he does incredibly well to reach high points like winning Wimbledon and reaching number one but then mentally relaxes rather than consolidating. The injuries play a part but sometimes the drive to stay ahead should overcome the pain and with Andy they seem to put a break on his will to win at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Very good description of Andy Murray. The frustrating thing is he does incredibly well to reach high points like winning Wimbledon and reaching number one but then mentally relaxes rather than consolidating. The injuries play a part but sometimes the drive to stay ahead should overcome the pain and with Andy they seem to put a break on his will to win at times. It's only to be expected as well that his previous tunnel vision motivation has been degraded by the changes in his personal life. His priorities are changed whether he likes it or not. He's not the first and wont be the last. Some players can endure throughout of course. Just look at Federer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 It's only to be expected as well that his previous tunnel vision motivation has been degraded by the changes in his personal life. His priorities are changed whether he likes it or not. He's not the first and wont be the last. Some players can endure throughout of course. Just look at Federer. It is like Federer uses his family as the motivating factor and keeps him chasing slams to make them proud of him. Hopefully Murray can do likewise and increase his fairly modest haul of slams for a top player of his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 It is like Federer uses his family as the motivating factor and keeps him chasing slams to make them proud of him. Hopefully Murray can do likewise and increase his fairly modest haul of slams for a top player of his age. The thing with Federer has been that he has kept his level very high and has continued getting to the sharp end of majors. Unfortunately for him he started losing a lot of finals and semi-finals and couldn't seem to add another win to his total. It seemed like he was destined to end his career with a succession of near misses which must have been hard to take. His win in Australia must have been a monumental relief and weight off his mind. He may well get a new lease of life by not having to worry about his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 It is like Federer uses his family as the motivating factor and keeps him chasing slams to make them proud of him. Hopefully Murray can do likewise and increase his fairly modest haul of slams for a top player of his age. Federer could use getting himself out of the house as a motivating factor, he is the most talented player there has ever been (along with Rafa I have to say) with a wonderful attitude too. Murray is already in retirement mode if you look at recent comments: I would say his achievements are in line with his talent. More than Cilic, more than Del Porto, the same as Stan but nowhere near as many as Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. Those three usually have too much for Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Federer could use getting himself out of the house as a motivating factor, he is the most talented player there has ever been (along with Rafa I have to say) with a wonderful attitude too. Murray is already in retirement mode if you look at recent comments: I would say his achievements are in line with his talent. More than Cilic, more than Del Porto, the same as Stan but nowhere near as many as Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. Those three usually have too much for Murray Del Potro and Cilic are 28 so they still have a chance to add slams when Djokovic, Nadal and Federer retire. They could well end up with better stats than Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Del Potro and Cilic are 28 so they still have a chance to add slams when Djokovic, Nadal and Federer retire. They could well end up with better stats than Murray. Can't see it. Can see Federer and Nadal dominating again for a few years and then Kyrgios (yes I know he isn't mentioned for grand slams, but I think he is very talented and his attitude has improved) Thiem and Zverev will battle it out for trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Federer or Djokovic with the former the favorite. Nadal's knees struggle to get through a fortnight on the grass. Murray is up against it form a fitness wise. Everyone else is an also ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Murray's now having to battle to keep the #1 spot. If Nadal goes a round further than him (assuming they each get through their first couple of matches), he overtakes Murray. If Murray fails in the first week, Stan or Novak could overtake him. Hopefully, the hip injury that kept him out of the exhibition games was purely tactical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Mon the big hibby (& thats the ONLY time you will EVER hear me say that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesidejambo Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Thiem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Federer could use getting himself out of the house as a motivating factor, he is the most talented player there has ever been (along with Rafa I have to say) with a wonderful attitude too. Murray is already in retirement mode if you look at recent comments: I would say his achievements are in line with his talent. More than Cilic, more than Del Porto, the same as Stan but nowhere near as many as Djokovic, Nadal and Federer. Those three usually have too much for Murray Murray is also a double Olympic champion which probably doesn't get as much recognition as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Thiem I don't see him as a grass court player. The next big clay-courter once Nadal's relinquished his crown; a regular quarter-finalist on hard courts but (and I've got my hat ready to eat) I doubt he'll do well in the green stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Can't see it. Can see Federer and Nadal dominating again for a few years and then Kyrgios (yes I know he isn't mentioned for grand slams, but I think he is very talented and his attitude has improved) Thiem and Zverev will battle it out for trophies Kyrgios he's already struggling today. He simply is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Anyone but the Fud Express please. Murray did great at the French but seems to be full of injury niggles so don't see him going all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Kyrgios he's already struggling today. He simply is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is. Scrub that, the drama queen is out. Retired 'injured' when getting a leathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Scrub that, the drama queen is out. Retired 'injured' when getting a leathering. He took a hefty fall during Queen's so it's probably a fair injury, rather than a 'Novak'. Murray's managing a double fault per game so far The big fella against him has served at 133mph on a first serve and 130mph on a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Not a great ambassador for Scotland when he doesn't wear his Scottish saltire sweatbands anymore (although I understand that was his sponsors) and represents 'britain' (whatever that is) in the davis cup and olympics and stands under the union flag celebrating to; god save the queen, which as we all know, talks about crushing rebellious Scots..... Great ambassador. Sad. Yet another thread attempted to be derailed for reasons unconnected to the subject. Not a great fan of Tennis, or Murray but I hope he wins. A guy who worked his arse off to improve and is world number 1 demands respect, (despite what team he supports). It's about time Scots began supporting and celebrating each other, rather than reverting to dire Calvinistic bollocks and disliking others for arbitrary reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Not a great ambassador for Scotland when he doesn't wear his Scottish saltire sweatbands anymore (although I understand that was his sponsors) and represents 'britain' (whatever that is) in the davis cup and olympics and stands under the union flag celebrating to; god save the queen, which as we all know, talks about crushing rebellious Scots..... Great ambassador. Dry your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Boris Becker back commentating His knowledge of game is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Boris Becker back commentating His knowledge of game is great Did he have to cycle there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Did he have to cycle there? Cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray Gin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I see Laura Robson has been emptied already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I see Laura Robson has been emptied already. Excellent Camila Giorgi is through though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Think she's had it already. Injury after injury, and even when nominally fit, collapses & loses. A "career" forging out appearance fees on I'm A Celebrity & Strictly beckons. They were saying on the radio that she's been injury free for almost a year and has been on the tour that whole time. Must've been losing in the first round and qualifiers of tournaments for the whole year as she's ranked way down at 175 or something. Britain's number 3, Ally B, is doing well against Karlovic so far. 5-4 up in the first set with Karlo having "only" 4 aces to Bedene's 7. This is Karlovic who's hit over 12,000 aces in his pro career to date. Horrible player - almost as unwatchable as the big lunk Isner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 They were saying on the radio that she's been injury free for almost a year and has been on the tour that whole time. Must've been losing in the first round and qualifiers of tournaments for the whole year as she's ranked way down at 175 or something. Britain's number 3, Ally B, is doing well against Karlovic so far. 5-4 up in the first set with Karlo having "only" 4 aces to Bedene's 7. This is Karlovic who's hit over 12,000 aces in his pro career to date. Horrible player - almost as unwatchable as the big lunk Isner. Pistol Pete was rough to watch too. I notice that the english are shouting on a Slovenian though..... standard. WInds me up something chronic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Carina Witthoeft through too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Pistol Pete was rough to watch too. I notice that the english are shouting on a Slovenian though..... standard. WInds me up something chronic Bedene's a Brit - he's got a union flag against his name and everything. Same as Greg Rusedski, Andy Murray and the Tiger. I'd be happy if the crowd got behind anyone who played Karlovic unless it was Isner. They just said on the radio that that was his 698th ever tie-break. Agreed on Pistol Pete. When he was doing his thing, I turned off tennis a bit; even started watching the women's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Bedene's a Brit - he's got a union flag against his name and everything. Same as Greg Rusedski, Andy Murray and the Tiger. I'd be happy if the crowd got behind anyone who played Karlovic unless it was Isner. They just said on the radio that that was his 698th ever tie-break. Agreed on Pistol Pete. When he was doing his thing, I turned off tennis a bit; even started watching the women's game. Murray i scottish and tim is english so I can understand that, rusedski is canadian and bedene is slovenian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Murray's winner in the first set is the best shot I've ever seen him hit, wonderful and the other guy did nothing wrong on that point either. Encouraging, and a confident start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Murray i scottish and tim is english so I can understand that, rusedski is canadian and bedene is slovenian. All four have got British passports. Rusedski's mum is British (as are Tim and Andy's mums). Ally B may not have a British accent like the other three but he's looking good in this match (one set all, now) and has volunteered to represent Britain, so that's good enough for me. Back on track - Nadal looking on strong form got through with no troubles. Wawrinka making a slow start. And here comes Jo Konta, a break up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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