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The neverending saga of Jamie Walker / no deal, he stays at Hearts (updated)

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doctor jambo

Even if he wanted to stay, I wouldn't keep him

Even if he offered to take a pay cut

Whatever he had , its gone, and it aint coming back

He is now so poor over a prolonged period of time that no one will be paying money for him

I'd rather have Darien Mackinnon in our squad than Walker

And I feckin hate him

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Beast Boy
2 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Yes. I support all Hearts players. Even the ones that have been playing shite. Have done for 50 plus years now and in that time I have seen my fair share of shite.

 

Good on you. Genuinely impressed at such an attitude. Mind you said this about Juanma?

 

“... Simple his attitude is far better than the Spaniards. Juanman's attitude stinks. We as a club in the longterm will be better without him... “

 

Not quite as supportive as you are of Jamie. Was Juanma wearing an away jersey that you didn’t like?

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John Findlay
13 minutes ago, Ryder said:

 

Good on you. Genuinely impressed at such an attitude. Mind you said this about Juanma?

 

“... Simple his attitude is far better than the Spaniards. Juanman's attitude stinks. We as a club in the longterm will be better without him... “

 

Not quite as supportive as you are of Jamie. Was Juanma wearing an away jersey that you didn’t like?

I feel privileged. I have my own personal stalker 

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lewis2006

Jamie Hunface McRaterson could leave this afternoon and I wouldn't blink an eye.

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reaths17
1 hour ago, Thought Police said:

At no point did I say he was a traitor. Just don’t think Hearts should keep holding him in such high regard. If he was foreign or signed by Cathro, folk would be calling him a wage thief, bad recruitment and all sorts.

he's no been great/consistent for a while, mostly due to fitness problems breaking up his seasons and having this opinion is fine. you just don't rate him, that's fine as well but when you turn up at the game, right from the start your on his back, the exact opposite of "support" what the hell is the point. if he ****s up a pass and everybody starts yelling at him, the next time he's got a pass on he's no gonna take it because your all on the edge of your seats waiting for him to **** up so you can yell abuse at him.

 

this isn't just Jamie, it's all the players, their getting stifled by the constant whinging. they make a bad pass it should be "go on Jamie you'll get it this time" SUPPORT not the constant barracking the team suffers via the fans.

 

those who make the excuse for this by saying it's up to the team to make them feel good 1st don't understand the word "SUPPORT". 

 

 when things aren't going well it's your support (family/friends) that pull you through it, they don't turn round and kick you when things are grim(the hearts fans)

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John Findlay
31 minutes ago, Ryder said:

 

Good on you. Genuinely impressed at such an attitude. Mind you said this about Juanma?

 

“... Simple his attitude is far better than the Spaniards. Juanman's attitude stinks. We as a club in the longterm will be better without him... “

 

Not quite as supportive as you are of Jamie. Was Juanma wearing an away jersey that you didn’t like?

I stand by those words and at present I would apply them to Goncalves and to a lesser extent Lafferty. When they pull on the Hearts jersey they get my support regardless of my opinion of them. If players do read this forum  then I hope they develop an attitude to prove me one hundred percent wrong.

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Beast Boy
18 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

I stand by those words and at present I would apply them to Goncalves and to a lesser extent Lafferty. When they pull on the Hearts jersey they get my support regardless of my opinion of them. If players do read this forum  then I hope they develop an attitude to prove me one hundred percent wrong.

 

Nut, sorry. You are contradicting yourself all over the place now.

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John Findlay
2 minutes ago, Ryder said:

 

Nut, sorry. You are contradicting yourself all over the place now.

Aye ok.

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Seymour M Hersh
1 hour ago, doctor jambo said:

Even if he wanted to stay, I wouldn't keep him

Even if he offered to take a pay cut

Whatever he had , its gone, and it aint coming back

He is now so poor over a prolonged period of time that no one will be paying money for him

I'd rather have Darien Mackinnon in our squad than Walker

And I feckin hate him

 

That's when you know a players number is up! :laugh:

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Bowmans_Boot
1 hour ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

Has as he said something recently? I don’t recall him “flinging the mud at others” or indeed saying anything at all 

No,  he hasnt. But he is still a traitor etc etc etc. The treatment of Jamie on here has been nothing short of disgraceful. 

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Cruyff Turn

He's been horseshite for the best part of a year.

 

If St Mirren could afford to pay his wages, I'd offer them Walker plus cash for Lewis Morgan. :laugh:

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Thomaso
1 hour ago, doctor jambo said:

Even if he wanted to stay, I wouldn't keep him

Even if he offered to take a pay cut

Whatever he had , its gone, and it aint coming back

He is now so poor over a prolonged period of time that no one will be paying money for him

I'd rather have Darien Mackinnon in our squad than Walker

And I feckin hate him

 

Going too far there Doc!! :unsure:

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scott herbertson
2 hours ago, Elias Henry Furst said:

 

He had a go at some of the January signings with regards our performance v them in the cup/replay in the build up to the derby at Easter Rd last month.

 

 ‘’but the games at Easter Road haven’t been good enough. The one last season was really tough because we had too many players who didn’t seem to understand what was needed. I felt like some people were looking to me to lead the team that night but you need everyone to be together in a derby. We just got overrun that night.’’

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jamie-walker-hearts-better-equipped-to-deal-with-derby-1-4593627/amp

 

 

Irony being he was completely anonymous in both ties 2016, both ties 2017 and indeed the game last month.

 

 

Hadnt seen that, thanks

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Dr Ian Malcolm

Not sure what's been so "disgraceful" about Walker's treatment. He's had an easy ride compared to just about everyone else in the squad. Our only goal threat gets slaughtered when he's arguably the only one producing the goods.

 

Seems patience is finally running out with Walker now that previous good performances are a distant memory. The "one of us" factor that, if we're being honest, plenty used to excuse him doing nothing of note, doesn't wash given the whole Rangers/contract situation. He can't really have any complaints.

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Captain America
2 hours ago, Dr Ian Malcolm said:

Not sure what's been so "disgraceful" about Walker's treatment. He's had an easy ride compared to just about everyone else in the squad. Our only goal threat gets slaughtered when he's arguably the only one producing the goods.

 

Seems patience is finally running out with Walker now that previous good performances are a distant memory. The "one of us" factor that, if we're being honest, plenty used to excuse him doing nothing of note, doesn't wash given the whole Rangers/contract situation. He can't really have any complaints.

This is fair comment.

 

Isma seems to take a lot of abuse in the stands and on social media but has been scoring this season mostly with no real service.

 

Walker has contributed very little and doesn't seem to get same treatment.

 

When Rangers started their games in the summer I was dead against Walker leaving, after watching him this season, wish we just took the cash. He isn't even 20% of the player we had from Aug to Feb last season.

 

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Beast Boy
47 minutes ago, C-3PO said:

This is fair comment.

 

Isma seems to take a lot of abuse in the stands and on social media but has been scoring this season mostly with no real service.

 

Walker has contributed very little and doesn't seem to get same treatment.

 

When Rangers started their games in the summer I was dead against Walker leaving, after watching him this season, wish we just took the cash. He isn't even 20% of the player we had from Aug to Feb last season.

 

 

Agree completely. Isma obviously doesn’t have lots of family friends in the Edinburgh area. Give me an Ismael Goncalves over a Jamie Walker every single day of the week.

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Pans Jambo
4 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said:

He's been horseshite for the best part of a year.

 

If St Mirren could afford to pay his wages, I'd offer them Walker plus cash for Lewis Morgan. :laugh:

THIS

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Shooter McGavin

If Rangers are still interested in him, I'll be amazed. Even when he's in good form its about 3 games then back to being anonymous.

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bajthejambo

How many goals has Walker scored this calender year in comparison to the last? That will tell you everything you need to know in terms of his commitment to us.

 

He doesn't want to play for Hearts and his attitude has probably cost him a better move. Like other posters have alluded to, I think he'll find it difficult to recapture what made him stand out before. 

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Beast Boy
9 minutes ago, bajthejambo said:

How many goals has Walker scored this calender year in comparison to the last? That will tell you everything you need to know in terms of his commitment to us.

 

He doesn't want to play for Hearts and his attitude has probably cost him a better move. Like other posters have alluded to, I think he'll find it difficult to recapture what made him stand out before. 

 

Ah, but that’s everyone else’s fault. Levein... Cathro... Daly... the fans... the other players...

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Captain America
27 minutes ago, bajthejambo said:

How many goals has Walker scored this calender year in comparison to the last? That will tell you everything you need to know in terms of his commitment to us.

 

He doesn't want to play for Hearts and his attitude has probably cost him a better move. Like other posters have alluded to, I think he'll find it difficult to recapture what made him stand out before. 

2016 - 15 goals.

2017 - 6 goals. 4 of which were scored in 1st 32 days of the year.

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Bowmans_Boot
32 minutes ago, bajthejambo said:

How many goals has Walker scored this calender year in comparison to the last? That will tell you everything you need to know in terms of his commitment to us.

 

He doesn't want to play for Hearts and his attitude has probably cost him a better move. Like other posters have alluded to, I think he'll find it difficult to recapture what made him stand out before. 

How has the team performed as a whole during those periods? 

 

But yeah, lets use this as "proof" that he doesnt care.

 

If he was as useless and as much of a liability as many on here would have you believe, why is CL desperate for Jamie to stay? 

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Ray Gin

Anyone else notice him skulking straight off the pitch and down the tunnel without shaking hands with anyone on Sunday?

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sairyinthat
2 minutes ago, Bowmans_Boot said:

How has the team performed as a whole during those periods? 

 

But yeah, lets use this as "proof" that he doesnt care.

 

If he was as useless and as much of a liability as many on here would have you believe, why is CL desperate for Jamie to stay? 

He was always thought of as a barometer of our club.Sadly tarnished  now and his lack of effort is impacting on the team,dump him say's I.

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Jamboelite
5 hours ago, Bowmans_Boot said:

No,  he hasnt. But he is still a traitor etc etc etc. The treatment of Jamie on here has been nothing short of disgraceful. 

 

He has been very poor for a year A YEAR !!! No one would get away with that but you have this massive protection on JW that you dont have for others.

 

Good players stand out even in poor teams and one Rangers game apart, JW hasnt had any real influence on big games.

 

Where was he in any of the derbies or any other big games?

 

The old “the team is poor” doesnt wash its his lack of effort and consistency that has nothing to do with the team.

 

He has talent but he has not focused on it and i would say that is because he is playing out his time.

 

We currently talk about a shite midfield and lack of creativity is this not JW’s role ?? So by definition he isnt doing it and hasnt for awhile.

 

 

Edited by Jamboelite

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David McCaig
5 hours ago, Thomaso said:

 

Going too far there Doc!! :unsure:

The sad thing is he's actually right!!

 

If you take the wonder goals out of Walker's game you are left with virtually nothing!!

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Bowmans_Boot
1 minute ago, Jamboelite said:

 

He has been very poor for a year A YEAR !!! No one would get away with that but you have this massive protection on JW that you dont have for others.

 

Good players stand out even in poor teams and one Rangers game apart JW hasnt had any influence on big games.

 

Where was he in any of the derbies or any other big games.

 

He has talent but he has not focused or been consistent with that and i would say that is because he os playing out his time.

Regarding the part in bold: I do stick up for the other players when it is merited. I always stick up for Isma, as one example, as I think he is excellent (just frustrating at times).

 

I dont think Jamie has been nearly as poor as people on here make out, hence he remains popular with the support. 

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kila
1 hour ago, Hearts_fan said:

Thought Jamie Walker was looking quite pies in the photo of him in today's evening news (particularly the print edition as it shows the image in full). 

 

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-hope-jamie-walker-stays-beyond-january-but-player-will-decide-1-4620766

 

Too many sweets, me thinks.

 

He's just come back from injury to be fair

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OTT

I've went from anger to apathy here. 

 

He's delusional if he thinks he's still going to rangers on ability (i.e if they sign him it will be some misguided attempt to remind everyone they can still take players from the other 10). To be quite honest, he doesn't deserve a move to a bigger club. Too inconsistent and quite clearly his head is turned too easily.

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Jamboelite
14 minutes ago, Bowmans_Boot said:

Regarding the part in bold: I do stick up for the other players when it is merited. I always stick up for Isma, as one example, as I think he is excellent (just frustrating at times).

 

I dont think Jamie has been nearly as poor as people on here make out, hence he remains popular with the support. 

 

I think he is living off performances from quite a bit of time ago BB and also because our midfield is dire then people are looking for that JW we all know he can be.

 

I have been waiting on JW to get back to how he was but its not happening.

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merseyjambo

Walker has functioned for us in a midfield where other players around him have picked up his slack. He worked in the midfield RN played where we had defensive cover and a team that had shape. He’s not a player whose going to cover every blade of grass for you and put his foot into a tackle, he’s not box to box like Cameron and he doesn’t pick a killer pass with every ball. 

 

Hes is a midfielder that scores goals but lacks work rate.

 

His lack of goals in 2017 has been highlighted. Yes he’s had his head filled with nonsense about a move along the M8 that possibly won’t materialise now. It’s also needs to be considered that he’s been playing in a basket case of a team for the best part of 11 months. He never has nor ever will be the player to lead a midfield due to the type of player he is. His performances in big games with the exception of Rangers in February have showed this.

 

Do do I think we were foolish not to accept the money on offer for him in the summer especially since there is a pretty good chance we will lose him for nothing at end of season - absolutely.

 

Would I want him to sign a new contract. At the moment no. The wage paid to him could be paid to someone else who would more fit in with the needs of the middle of the park. 

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soonbe110
1 hour ago, C-3PO said:

2016 - 15 goals.

2017 - 6 goals. 4 of which were scored in 1st 32 days of the year.

How many of the 15 were pens?

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Captain America
4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

How many of the 15 were pens?

5.

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Smith's right boot

He need to sign or we offload him to any suiters in January.

 

Winding down his contract isn't an option, no one will benifit.

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King prawn
34 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

How many of the 15 were pens?

How many pens did he miss would be a better question

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tcjambo

I really hope we withdraw our offer, as it is becoming clearer all the time he is unlikely to get any better, and more likely will get worse.

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amadjambo
8 hours ago, doctor jambo said:

Even if he wanted to stay, I wouldn't keep him

Even if he offered to take a pay cut

Whatever he had , its gone, and it aint coming back

He is now so poor over a prolonged period of time that no one will be paying money for him

I'd rather have Darien Mackinnon in our squad than Walker

And I feckin hate him

Darien Mackinnon! I better never see him or that wee ***** Imrie play for Hearts.

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kila

He had a pretty decent game today to be fair

 

 

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been here before

Aye he done well today. Id probably give him MOTM.

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Gigolo-Aunt

Best Hearts player on the park.

 

 

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Geoff the Mince

That will be the muppet's average to good game in 6 then .

 

We really are blessed to have him .

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kila
44 minutes ago, Geoff the Mince said:

That will be the muppet's average to good game in 6 then .

 

We really are blessed to have him .

 

Good to see fans supporting a player when he's shown some form

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Coco

Looked sharp today.

 

I'd be playing him where Rudi used to play, free role up front with no defensive responsibility.  Get him on the ball on the edge of the D.

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soonbe110

Thought he was excellent today. Him and Djoum showed what we have been missing. 

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Geoff the Mince
22 minutes ago, kila said:

 

Good to see fans supporting a player when he's shown some form

If he can show some consistency and have  the right attitude ? Yes 

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Debut 4

Quality player as shown today.

 

Such a focal point for us going forward and making it happen in the last third.

 

But credit goes out to Djoum too. A lot of energy and purpose today from him and the way he combined with Walker in creating the space to get forward shows how wasted he is when sitting in a more defensive role.

 

These two can be too hot to handle on this sort of form but if only it could happen far more often.

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jake
1 hour ago, Geoff the Mince said:

That will be the muppet's average to good game in 6 then .

 

We really are blessed to have him .

It beats your average of Muppet posts of 0 to whatever you have posted.

 

We are really blessed on this forum as it's full of little bitches.

 

 

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RENE

Welcome back Jamie Walker.  Excellent first half good second. Plays better in centre of the park.

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Geoff the Mince
3 minutes ago, jake said:

It beats your average of Muppet posts of 0 to whatever you have posted.

 

We are really blessed on this forum as it's full of little bitches.

 

 

Aye very good .

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