Morgan Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 HEARTS are here... Found this book whilst having a tidy out at home and have started to read it again - must be 7 or 8 years since I first read it. What do people who have read it think of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 HEARTS are here... Found this book whilst having a tidy out at home and have started to read it again - must be 7 or 8 years since I first read it. What do people who have read it think of it? can still remember the games i used to go to in that era, fecking mental the hearts fans were , afraid of no one and not many other clubs fans enjoyed a visit to gorgie when playing us at tynie, what were the 2 songs they used to sing ,"come and have a go with the gorgie agarro" and "your gonna get your fecking heads kick in", never got involved in any of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallschunkychicken Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Good read. I'm a bit young to have been around during the events of the book, but interesting nonetheless. Feel a bit guilty though as someone left it behind the bar in my local for me to read, it went round the bar before I eventually got it, and I still have it to this day. That was about three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Good read. I'm a bit young to have been around during the events of the book, but interesting nonetheless. Feel a bit guilty though as someone left it behind the bar in my local for me to read, it went round the bar before I eventually got it, and I still have it to this day. That was about three years ago. That was me you barsteward! You're gonna get yer feckin' head kicked in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 What do people who have read it think of it? Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... So you don't see it being shortlisted for the Booker Prize then? I've never read but did read part of that sheep casuals book and I suspect they are all the same. Never take a doing, never run etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Quality read, one of the many books I'll be taking on holiday to read by the pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Quality read, one of the many books I'll be taking on holiday to read by the pool I can just picture you at the airport pulling this little portable bookshelf on wheels along behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Better than the recent Hibs effort, which was probably written in crayon. Although both of them are pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1874M Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I can just picture you at the airport pulling this little portable bookshelf on wheels along behind you. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 the author and a few of the chaps in the book post on here;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Its miles better than the latest effort from Hearts fans. What is it again, Two miles from Tynecastle. Only Kidding Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 "we'll go up we'll go doon we're gonna wreck yer f&ckin toon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I can just picture you at the airport pulling this little portable bookshelf on wheels along behind you. "many" = 4 my wife already has the shoe stand ready to pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 "many" = 4 my wife already has the shoe stand ready to pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 That was me you barsteward! You're gonna get yer feckin' head kicked in... You bought 2 of those books? Rich barsteward:) You must have been one of the first casuals possibly even before they were invented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... The one hooligan book I did enjoy was Guvnors by Mickey Francis. Gave a wee bit of insight into what it was like for him living in Moss Side as a boy etc, but a lot of them tend to boil down to the same thing (obviously). As soon as I read a sentence saying something: "There were six of us and 10 million Rangers but we were pure radge so we just rushed them anyway and they all scattered" I usually pass it on to the Scouts' jumble sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie fenwick Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 The one hooligan book I did enjoy was Guvnors by Mickey Francis. Gave a wee bit of insight into what it was like for him living in Moss Side as a boy etc, but a lot of them tend to boil down to the same thing (obviously). As soon as I read a sentence saying something: "There were six of us and 10 million Rangers but we were pure radge so we just rushed them anyway and they all scattered" I usually pass it on to the Scouts' jumble sale. must admit i found boyrg and bloody casuals a bit amatuarish(havent read dykes book)even tho cs ferguson was a good mate,have always enjoyed the english lads books more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Can someone tell me what these books are actually called and what era they are from??? I can't remember any of these books! Knew of a Dykes but he was from the dark side or am I barking up the wrong tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say What Again Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Can someone tell me what these books are actually called and what era they are from??? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bring-Out-Your-Riot-Gear/dp/0953592006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Can someone tell me what these books are actually called and what era they are from??? I can't remember any of these books! Knew of a Dykes but he was from the dark side or am I barking up the wrong tree? No you're right, its THAT Dykes (Derek). He's 'wrote' one about the Hobos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Can someone tell me what these books are actually called and what era they are from??? I can't remember any of these books! Knew of a Dykes but he was from the dark side or am I barking up the wrong tree? fill yer boots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czQ4-E-V4lo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilary Briss Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 No you're right, its THAT Dykes (Derek). He's 'wrote' one about the Hobos. I only read the Hearts bit in Dykes's book and if the rest of it is as factual as that chapter its a load of old bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Did Hearts casuals ever fight.I can remember them getting abuse when walking round the shed but i cannot think of 1 fight i have saw them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... I kind of agree with you.The foreward is probably the best bit about book about the game in Munich.The rest seems as if it was written by someone who actually was never involved in anthing that he had written about.It was all just a bit vague.I kind of thought he was more the chip shop casual from small towns and villages that he wrote about in the book and heard stories from Hearts boys and put it down as if it were himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 fill yer boots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czQ4-E-V4lo I know that guy Jay Allan (the ex-Aberdeen casual). He runs the pub in the next village along from mine, and is a pretty good bloke. As he said in that video, he is now completely different and helps with all sorts of community things and with the village cricket team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I know that guy Jay Allan (the ex-Aberdeen casual). He runs the pub in the next village along from mine, and is a pretty good bloke. As he said in that video, he is now completely different and helps with all sorts of community things and with the village cricket team. his old man is also a reporter for the aberdeen beano, or what ever it's called:wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie fenwick Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 his old man is also a reporter for the aberdeen beano, or what ever it's called:wacko: jay allen is a gentleman,i was in magaluf with him in 87 and the guy was brand new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Quality read, one of the many books I'll be taking on holiday to read by the pool Remember to keep your passport safe this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Better than the recent Hibs effort, which was probably written in crayon. :rofl::rofl: Incidentally there are few finer ways to wind up a cod head than to point out that the ASC cacked themselves from a single Hibs yoof with "flames". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 :rofl::rofl: Incidentally there are few finer ways to wind up a cod head than to point out that the ASC cacked themselves from a single Hibs yoof with "flames". :) Very true;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... I agree it was a bit of a yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 CS Ferguson's other book is also a classic read (front cover leaves a lot to be desired though) "germany away - this time it's war" ps - that's not the book name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Remember to keep your passport safe this time. Bernadette will have the honour of looking after them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixton Hearts Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I kind of agree with you.The foreward is probably the best bit about book about the game in Munich.The rest seems as if it was written by someone who actually was never involved in anthing that he had written about.It was all just a bit vague.I kind of thought he was more the chip shop casual from small towns and villages that he wrote about in the book and heard stories from Hearts boys and put it down as if it were himself. Sorry to disappoint you mate but he was there week in, week out with Hearts' firm right from the start. Also he was pretty active with the Headhunters at Chelsea for a few years when he moved down to London in 89Fetish clubbing at the Torture Garden seems to be his thing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 No you're right, its THAT Dykes (Derek). He's 'wrote' one about the Hobos. That would have been an interesting read right enough! Doe's it mention anything about him pulling stanleys out on younger boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Fetish clubbing at the Torture Garden seems to be his thing now what a pervo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixton Hearts Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 what a pervo lol i blame ecstasy.....and of course the fact that he has a warped mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 "many" = 4 my wife already has the shoe stand ready to pull Im looking for a book that i cant find in shops you might be able to point me in the direction of mate. Can you send me your e mail and ill mail you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towzer Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Good book and some quality times,a real good read for anyone. some members on here will find it offensive,but they can **** right off. TOWZER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 The book reflects that Hearts fans were the most feared in Scotland at that time. It may be unpalatable to some on here, but that's the way it was. Memories....... Trio - I'll have a read of it after your hols. Lost my copy so not read it in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyboy38 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 CS Ferguson's other book is also a classic read (front cover leaves a lot to be desired though) "germany away - this time it's war" ps - that's not the book name Im sure i have this book kicking about, sure it has Stratties on the front cover..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible Trio Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Im sure i have this book kicking about, sure it has Stratties on the front cover..... giving dundee a hiding if I am not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 The book reflects that Hearts fans were the most feared in Scotland at that time. It may be unpalatable to some on here, but that's the way it was. Memories....... Trio - I'll have a read of it after your hols. Lost my copy so not read it in years. a slight exageration,hearts had a tasty mob, but were always a bit thin on the ground when it came to numbers;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Took it on holiday about 4 years ago and stopped after reading 2/3 of it. It must rank as one of the most repetitive, boring books I've ever attempted to read. Maybe I should have expected that though. BOYRG in 5 seconds: Went up to Dundee, it was mental. Their boys were waiting for us just outside the station, we chased them up the High Street. We tried to get into the away end before kick off but the plod were waiting for us. Went to the Mod disco at night and pulled some wee bird. Top day - and we've got Morton away in the Cup midweek! Wednesday night arrived and we went through to Morton. It was mental. Their boys were waiting for us on the High Street and we chased them down to the station. A few of our boys got into the away end but plod threw them out. Got the mod disco to look forward to at the weekend. Might give that wee bird a phone. Repeat to end... You ought to get a job with the Edinburgh Evening Hibs. Your description of how the book goes is utter bull. You more or less never lived in those days but choose to criticise or you did live in those days but chose to spend time sorting out your stamp collection and watching Open University. Facts are facts, this is what happened if you want to compile a book of your own living days then do so, look forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 So you don't see it being shortlisted for the Booker Prize then? I've never read but did read part of that sheep casuals book and I suspect they are all the same. Never take a doing, never run etc etc etc. Unlike those other books, CS does in actual fact tell the tales of when the Hearts crew are on the back foot or getting a "doing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 must admit i found boyrg and bloody casuals a bit amatuarish(havent read dykes book)even tho cs ferguson was a good mate,have always enjoyed the english lads books more You can relate to both cults (casual & mod) you'll then be able to back him up when some of the critics on here slate him for the content. Credit where due though, Jay takes the prize for setting the ball rolling and i would bet if he had the chance again it would be better and more detailed. CS has to get credit for actually putting Hearts on the "Hooligan book Map" don't see/hear anyone else putting pen to paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Did Hearts casuals ever fight.I can remember them getting abuse when walking round the shed but i cannot think of 1 fight i have saw them in. When they started out they were small in numbers but remember they were "Edinburgh Casuals" not Hearts or Hibs. The term casual was not originally meant to represent football hooliganism. After a few incidents at the Southside Snooker Centre, a Hearts v Aberdeen Scottish Cup tie, a few liberty takers from Leith and the reaction from "The Shed" at the emergance of this new brand of fan put the Hearts Casuals into a slight predicament. They couldn't pull the same numbers as Aberdeen, Motherwell or Rangers and because of the Hearts fans refusing to take of their "bovver boots" for Adidas or Dia Dora the small numbered CSF couldn't compete with the "Big Boys". It's alarming to know that quite a lot of the Hibs faces were in actual fact Hearts fans or previous members of the CSF, this was they're safety in numbers clause. But over the piece the Hearts CSF have had many a battle, maybe not in the grand scale of the ASC, the ICF or the exagerated CCS but certainly not to be underestimated, they have had they're fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertson9 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I kind of agree with you.The foreward is probably the best bit about book about the game in Munich.The rest seems as if it was written by someone who actually was never involved in anthing that he had written about.It was all just a bit vague.I kind of thought he was more the chip shop casual from small towns and villages that he wrote about in the book and heard stories from Hearts boys and put it down as if it were himself. Far from it mate, CS was one of the first casuals in Edinburgh after his stint at the mod revival. He will never claim to be a hardman but admit to be more interested in the fashion and the combination of two groups wanting to have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Crane Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 The book reminded me of an old Groucho Marx quote: "From the moment I picked it up to the moment I put it down again, I was convulsed with laughter. Someday I might even read it!" Not exactly a fan of "Hoolie porn". No one should have to go to a football match with the prospect of getting beaten up because some idiot was "up for it" or "wanted a buzz". Neither should the club these imbeciles claim to support have to suffer the consequences that their moronic actions bring. "A bit of a laugh innit" doesn't quite cut the mustard when a supporter who just went along to see his team play spends the night in casualty or on a mortuary slab. No doubt those defending the hooligans will say "but they only target other firms". I was watching a documentary on Martin McGuiness on BBC4 the other night and he was coming out with the same "we don't kill civilians" nonsense. Different circumstances but same old garbage. For a period of time these people did their level best to spoil the enjoyment of going to watch football which ultimately culminated in bodies being pulled out for loved ones to bury thanks to the stupidity of the pondlife who wanted to carry out another sordid agenda. B******s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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