RobNox Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 United will make the top 6 - just and no more. They will make the relegation play off spot, but they will survive by beating Hubs in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 They will make the relegation play off spot, but they will survive by beating Hubs in the final. That would be amusing, but I don't even think Hibs will make the play off final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Are United not doing the same strategy as us, except they are acfew more years down the path? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 That would be amusing, but I don't even think Hibs will make the play off final. Agreed, that's where my prediction falls down, but I'd rather they somehow scrape through and fall at the final hurdle. It's so much funnier to see them build their hopes up only to be dashed at the last moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I rated him as a player but not been overly impressed with his management skills. He needs to turn it around fairly quickly as he seems to have lost the support of some of the fans, don't think it is majority yet but will continue to grow if this run continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Agreed, that's where my prediction falls down, but I'd rather they somehow scrape through and fall at the final hurdle. It's so much funnier to see them build their hopes up only to be dashed at the last moment. It would be glorious if they fell at the final hurdle again, but I just can't see them getting that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 If there's a back to be stabbed, Elvis will be in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 another defeat for York City today. 1 win in 10 since Jackie McNamara took over meantime Mixu now has a worse record in his first games 2 managers getting sacked soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 another defeat for York City today. 1 win in 10 since Jackie McNamara took over meantime Mixu now has a worse record in his first games 2 managers getting sacked soon Wee Jackie will get some token position at Celtic at some point. Deputy chef to the U19 coach or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 another defeat for York City today. 1 win in 10 since Jackie McNamara took over meantime Mixu now has a worse record in his first games 2 managers getting sacked soon He's at York City? Propping up League Two? Jesus, I didn't know things were that bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson has warned of the financial consequences of relegation. Thompson made it clear his family will not plough more money into the Scottish Premiership club in the long term. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35246285 Thompson believes the roots of the club's present struggle can be traced back to last summer. "It's very easy in my eyes where it went wrong," he explained. "It's not to do with the money we spent, it's not to do with player sales. It's about who we replaced them with, it's about our recruitment. Our recruitment last summer was poor at best and that's why we are where we are. "Our wage costs are the third biggest in the league. We've spent a lot of money over 18 months on transfer fees - ?650,000 - and we are where we are, which is sitting bottom of the league so it probably tells you one thing, that we didn't bring in the right players." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson has warned of the financial consequences of relegation. Thompson made it clear his family will not plough more money into the Scottish Premiership club in the long term. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35246285 Thompson believes the roots of the club's present struggle can be traced back to last summer. "It's very easy in my eyes where it went wrong," he explained. "It's not to do with the money we spent, it's not to do with player sales. It's about who we replaced them with, it's about our recruitment. Our recruitment last summer was poor at best and that's why we are where we are. "Our wage costs are the third biggest in the league. We've spent a lot of money over 18 months on transfer fees - ?650,000 - and we are where we are, which is sitting bottom of the league so it probably tells you one thing, that we didn't bring in the right players." So presumably this points the finger at Mcnamara, assuming he was in charge of recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson has warned of the financial consequences of relegation. Thompson made it clear his family will not plough more money into the Scottish Premiership club in the long term. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35246285 Thompson believes the roots of the club's present struggle can be traced back to last summer. "It's very easy in my eyes where it went wrong," he explained. "It's not to do with the money we spent, it's not to do with player sales. It's about who we replaced them with, it's about our recruitment. Our recruitment last summer was poor at best and that's why we are where we are. "Our wage costs are the third biggest in the league. We've spent a lot of money over 18 months on transfer fees - ?650,000 - and we are where we are, which is sitting bottom of the league so it probably tells you one thing, that we didn't bring in the right players." Well that should help get the best out of the players they signed in the summer. **** all to do with selling all your players quicker than you can adequately replace them, eh Stevo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson has warned of the financial consequences of relegation. Thompson made it clear his family will not plough more money into the Scottish Premiership club in the long term. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35246285 Thompson believes the roots of the club's present struggle can be traced back to last summer. "It's very easy in my eyes where it went wrong," he explained. "It's not to do with the money we spent, it's not to do with player sales. It's about who we replaced them with, it's about our recruitment. Our recruitment last summer was poor at best and that's why we are where we are. "Our wage costs are the third biggest in the league. We've spent a lot of money over 18 months on transfer fees - ?650,000 - and we are where we are, which is sitting bottom of the league so it probably tells you one thing, that we didn't bring in the right players." It also tells you that you are not very good at appointing decent Managers you never mentioned that in your interview!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So where did all the money go for all the players they sold? Thought they got a lot more than ?650k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So where did all the money go for all the players they sold? Thought they got a lot more than ?650k? They had a big debt outstanding to Thomson which I believe he recouped. Think that is why he is going public about the Administration thing so the fans realise that the clb could have gone down the tubes and that he is not going to save them the next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 They had a big debt outstanding to Thomson which I believe he recouped. Think that is why he is going public about the Administration thing so the fans realise that the clb could have gone down the tubes and that he is not going to save them the next time. Hadn't realised that, thanks. I honestly thought they were fairly well off, doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2205ian Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So where did all the money go for all the players they sold? Thought they got a lot more than ?650k? ?650,000 is what DU have spent on transfers in. They have received a lot more on transfers out, however a healthy percentage of this income was "paid back" in accordance of the terms of their "debt reduction" arrangement with the Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restonbabe Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 How many good young footballers are around the catchment aera in Dundee. Crazy to think that flow has been stopped because of our very own craig levein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 How many good young footballers are around the catchment aera in Dundee. Crazy to think that flow has been stopped because of our very own craig levein Levein helped them set up a youth system which allowed them to tap in to talent from much further afield than Tayside, including schools in the Edinburgh and Lothians. Something he is hopefully sorting out at Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of Anarchy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 ?650,000 is what DU have spent on transfers in. Gotcha. I read that part incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 ?650,000 is what DU have spent on transfers in. They have received a lot more on transfers out, however a healthy percentage of this income was "paid back" in accordance of the terms of their "debt reduction" arrangement with the Bank. Utd should have banked with HBOS, ..............like hibs did. They forgive debts of up to ?5mill. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast No Shadow Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Surely they can't have a higher wage bill than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Surely they can't have a higher wage bill than us? Guys like Gavin Gunning, Guy Demel, Ryan McGowan, Billy McKay to name a few, will all be on decent wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 How can you spend ?650k and get relegated in this league?! Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So where did all the money go for all the players they sold? Thought they got a lot more than ?650k? That's money they've spent not accrued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Surely they can't have a higher wage bill than us? Our wage bill is ?3.7m comparible to St Johnstone so its not hard to believe. Next season i would expect to be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson has warned of the financial consequences of relegation. Thompson made it clear his family will not plough more money into the Scottish Premiership club in the long term. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35246285 Thompson believes the roots of the club's present struggle can be traced back to last summer. "It's very easy in my eyes where it went wrong," he explained. "It's not to do with the money we spent, it's not to do with player sales. It's about who we replaced them with, it's about our recruitment. Our recruitment last summer was poor at best and that's why we are where we are. "Our wage costs are the third biggest in the league. We've spent a lot of money over 18 months on transfer fees - ?650,000 - and we are where we are, which is sitting bottom of the league so it probably tells you one thing, that we didn't bring in the right players." "The club is in serious trouble if the players don't do something about it. By the way, half of those players are shite." :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 "The club is in serious trouble if the players don't do something about it. By the way, half of those players are shite." :rofl: Exactly. Sounds like he's preparing to get his money back and cut them adrift actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Wages third highest in the league, yet some of our fans are raging about our performance this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRWJambo1991 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The big problem with Steven Thompson is he's seriously deluded about how good the current Dundee United squad actually is.Before Mixxu was appointed he said the next manager would be managing one of the best british young squads.Telfer and Spittal aren't bad but lets be honest you wouldn't take many more from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 They have a few good players that I would expect to do well with better players around them. I kinda hope we plunder some of the better ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Their squad on paper is actually relatively strong, maybe it's the shite managers that are the problem, i mind the thread when fat pat was going to them and folk were saying "he will do well" and i said "no he won't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 From their squad i would have Spittal, Billy McKay and maybe Telfer. Not sure what their contracts are but they would enhance our squad. Billy McKay could force his way to our first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studo Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Not overly surprised, remember it being said they had McNamara on commission or getting a % for player sales. He sells any player worth a few quid, takes his money and leaves. Leaving a squad of unproven, young or players worth nothing. you would expect some arses to be kicked for allowing this situation to play out, and at the very least they only have themselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 From their squad i would have Spittal, Billy McKay and maybe Telfer. Not sure what their contracts are but they would enhance our squad. Billy McKay could force his way to our first team. McKay isn't their player mind, but I'd have him too. On top of those you've mentioned, I alway quite liked Gunning but his time has probably come tbh. Never seen the laddie Telfer, always quite liked the look of Dow and Fraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Kind words from the Chairman about the players that are still there, no wonder they can't be arsed playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Kind words from the Chairman about the players that are still there, no wonder they can't be arsed playing. Exactly. The stubborn old prick just wants to try and absolve himself from any blame from the player sales that have led to their rapid decline. Bit of an ivory tower type I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstone Wonder Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 United will make the top 6 - just and no more. Best of luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I do wonder how much is from disorganisation and poor decisions by Thompson. Same as many Man Utd fans blame Woodward before Moyes or Van Gaal. What is the culture of the club and how much feeds down to the players. Mixu is slagging his players after every game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Dundee UTD were competing at a level well above that of a team with such small attendances for decades. It's easy to forget how little complacency is needed to see a decline of this nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Our wage bill is ?3.7m comparible to St Johnstone so its not hard to believe. Next season i would expect to be different. Do you know how many players we have in comparison to St Johnstone? Serious question not being smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I do wonder how much is from disorganisation and poor decisions by Thompson. Same as many Man Utd fans blame Woodward before Moyes or Van Gaal. What is the culture of the club and how much feeds down to the players. Mixu is slagging his players after every game as well. I think a lot of the poor decisions were made by Thomson senior in landing them with a large debt and junior is refusing to go down the same route (quite rightly so in my opinion) even if they end up being relegated. It just shows how important a good manager is to a club and how quickly a bad one can affect a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2205ian Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Do you know how many players we have in comparison to St Johnstone? Serious question not being smart. Checked their website, 21 in 1st Team Squad which is the same as HMFC Noticed on DUFC website last night that there is an offer "Spend ?50 online or in Club Shop & get 2 free tickies for Killie game". Desperate measures for a team in a desperate place. Tough times ahead, but is anyone surprised with the Chairman joining in with the Manager in going public about the quality of their players? Similar to a certain Terry Butcher 2 years ago & we are delighted to know the outcome of that particular style of "motivation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Checked their website, 21 in 1st Team Squad which is the same as HMFC Noticed on DUFC website last night that there is an offer "Spend ?50 online or in Club Shop & get 2 free tickies for Killie game". Desperate measures for a team in a desperate place. Tough times ahead, but is anyone surprised with the Chairman joining in with the Manager in going public about the quality of their players? Similar to a certain Terry Butcher 2 years ago & we are delighted to know the outcome of that particular style of "motivation" plus the likes of Maurice Malpass dissing them in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I really can't see them staying up, would be a far better exercise to concede that and blood as many youngsters as they possibly can from, now until the end of the season. They may unearth their own Paterson, Walker, King or Nicholson (Or better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Our wage bill for this season is 4.5 million. Would be surprised if United's is above that. Just checked and at their last set of financial accounts it was 3.5 million so Thompson is talking rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Our wage bill for this season is 4.5 million. Would be surprised if United's is above that. where has that been quoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibi Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 where has that been quoted?The slides that were posted on the website after the AGM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The slides that were posted on the website after the AGM. ahh ok, laptop broke a while back so been relying on ps4 internet app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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