Watches

[IronJambo]

8 minutes ago, muldoon74 said:

Ive also read on trustpilot no import tax for UK and free DHL delivery.. 

 

Its a minefield buying shite these days!!

Unless there's a special relationship with Singapore (?) then I'd expect any delivery from a non EU country to give you a customs fee+VAT along with a handling fee from the carrier (DHL in this case) for any goods over £135. This may or may not be picked up by customs. 

[muldoon74]

6 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

Unless there's a special relationship with Singapore (?) then I'd expect any delivery from a non EU country to give you a customs fee+VAT along with a handling fee from the carrier (DHL in this case) for any goods over £135. This may or may not be picked up by customs. 

Hence the reason for my post/query. 

 

Ive seen no delivery fees, no import tax and also both of them.

 

What have people actually experienced? 

[IronJambo]

35 minutes ago, muldoon74 said:

Hence the reason for my post/query. 

 

Ive seen no delivery fees, no import tax and also both of them.

 

What have people actually experienced? 

Not from creation obviously, but I've bought a phone for £300 that was sent to me from Dubai and it made it to me 23 hours after shipping with no customs duty or VAT added. On the other side of it, I bought a painting from a friend of a friend in the USA for somewhere between £100/£200 and it was hit with with all with all of the above. I think it's the luck of the draw on whether customs pick it up or not.

Edited August 14, 2020 by IronJambo

[Candy]

Whats the JKB View on Nomos Glashutte?

Edited August 23, 2020 by Fun Boaby

[Sooperstar]

1 hour ago, Fun Boaby said:

Whats the JKB View on Nomos Glashutte?

They look like watches an architect would wear.

 

Someone that looks like this guy.

[IronJambo]

The wee one was sleeping when I got him home in the car so I left him till he woke. Nowt to do in the dark basement car park so I had a go at taking some lume shots.

 

[jambo89]

I was looking in to buying something decent but I have absolutely no idea about watches. 

 

There seems to be a few decent websites on-line for buying 2nd hand watches watchfinder being one of them.

 

There is a lot of eBay but not sure if you can trust them? if I am going to be spending £4,000 - £6000 on watch, I want to make the right purchase.

 

I should add, the reason I like that watchfinder website, is that it tells you the year the watch was made. I want to get a watch that was made the same year my son was born (2019) so that I can eventually gift it to him on his 18th birthday. 

 

Any help / ideas is welcome.

[IronJambo]

1 hour ago, jambo89 said:

I was looking in to buying something decent but I have absolutely no idea about watches. 

 

There seems to be a few decent websites on-line for buying 2nd hand watches watchfinder being one of them.

 

There is a lot of eBay but not sure if you can trust them? if I am going to be spending £4,000 - £6000 on watch, I want to make the right purchase.

 

I should add, the reason I like that watchfinder website, is that it tells you the year the watch was made. I want to get a watch that was made the same year my son was born (2019) so that I can eventually gift it to him on his 18th birthday. 

 

Any help / ideas is welcome.

I think there's a lot to consider. Firstly, the likes of chrono24/chronext and watchfinder are all way overpriced. So haggle if you go down that route.

 

Anything you buy now is going to depreciate. Some quite hideously (ok, not as badly as a car). There will be exceptions to that with some appreciating instead but what watches they are we can only speculate. We can only assume they'd come from Patek Phillipe, Jaeger Le Coultre, Audemars Piquet, or Rolex. Not that Rolex is in the same league as the aforementioned but for retaining/gaining value they belong in that sentence. 

It should be considered that the watch will need serviced before his 18th as well.

 

With all the above considered you're also buying a watch to your own tastes for someone who's tastes you don't know in 17 years time. It may even be that very few of us are wearing mechanical watches then and he may think it's a nonsense item because it doesn't read his emails to him. It could be way too big or way too small for him.

 

I think the idea has good merit and I may even steal it for my kids for their 21st but I don't think I could choose a watch for the wee dicks right now. 

 

There are plenty sites that sell birth year watches if you look around as well. 

 

I think I'd probably whack the money in an index funds isa and make the purchase much closer to his 18th. Extra money to spend or excess to put elsewhere as well as the watch. Win win. 

 

[jambo89]

48 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

I think there's a lot to consider. Firstly, the likes of chrono24/chronext and watchfinder are all way overpriced. So haggle if you go down that route.

 

Anything you buy now is going to depreciate. Some quite hideously (ok, not as badly as a car). There will be exceptions to that with some appreciating instead but what watches they are we can only speculate. We can only assume they'd come from Patek Phillipe, Jaeger Le Coultre, Audemars Piquet, or Rolex. Not that Rolex is in the same league as the aforementioned but for retaining/gaining value they belong in that sentence. 

It should be considered that the watch will need serviced before his 18th as well.

 

With all the above considered you're also buying a watch to your own tastes for someone who's tastes you don't know in 17 years time. It may even be that very few of us are wearing mechanical watches then and he may think it's a nonsense item because it doesn't read his emails to him. It could be way too big or way too small for him.

 

I think the idea has good merit and I may even steal it for my kids for their 21st but I don't think I could choose a watch for the wee dicks right now. 

 

There are plenty sites that sell birth year watches if you look around as well. 

 

I think I'd probably whack the money in an index funds isa and make the purchase much closer to his 18th. Extra money to spend or excess to put elsewhere as well as the watch. Win win. 

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to respond IronJambo. There is some good information there and I will keep that in mind.

 

To be honest, I was going to just pick a watch that I liked and 'hope' that the wee man likes it in 17 years time. I also never considered that watches depreciate and thought they held their value well enough. So you are right, he may end up with a watch that, not only does he not like, but is completely worthless !

 

I've ended up in a bit of a rabbit hole with the index funds isa thing you mentioned. I already put away £60 p/m for him in to a junior isa (with TSB bank) but looks like I should've been putting it in an index fund. 

 

Lot's to consider and thanks for your response.

[muldoon74]

Fed up on Saturday night there, also bit drunk, so decided to cheer myself up a wee bit. 

 

Always, wanted a rectangle faced watch, saw this on amazon for £27 free delivery. Came this morning. 

 

Not best picture but I'm very pleased with it. Little details like the second hand being red with the RAF/Ben Sherman roundel on the end give it a wee hint of style. 

 

I have a round dial Ben Sherman aswell, bought in March. Set time to my everyday beater Garmin (Satellite controlled time so accurate) and its still pretty much in sync with it. Maybe 5/6 seconds out but over 5.5 months for a fashion piece I don't think that's bad at all. 

 

Also cheered the wife up by buying her an Elvis watch, although that arrives between 18th and 21st. Obviously coming from China but she's as happy with a £22 elvis, faced watch as she would be with a much more expensive one with no elvis face. In fact she'd be more wary of an expensive watch in case she broke it. Last Chinese, elvis one cost £15 and battery just died after 3 years. 5er a year, not bad. 

[Tazio]

I’ve just seen an article about the fact that notorious egotistical tosspot Lewis Hamilton’s management team have just failed in a bid to stop Hamilton using the registered name Hamilton International as it may interfere with future products like watches and clothing he is looking to get involved in. 
That would be Hamilton who have been making watches since the 1890’s. Not very clever and also not very clever to try it with a company that is part of the Swatch Group so it’s not like they were trying to bully a small operation that couldn’t afford lawyers. 
I’ll enjoy wearing my Hamilton all the more now. 

Edited November 19, 2020 by Tazio

[Victorian]

2 minutes ago, Tazio said:

I’ve just seen an article about the fact that notorious egotistical tosspot Lewis Hamilton’s management team have just failed in a bid to stop Hamilton using the registered name Hamilton International as it may interfere with future products like watches and clothing he is looking to get involved in. 
That would be Hamilton who have been making watches since the 1890’s. Not very clever and also not very clever to try it with a company that is part of the Swatch Group so it’s not like they were trying to bully a small operation that couldn’t afford lawyers. 
I’ll enjoy wearing my Hamilton all the more now. 

 

A bit of a depressing thing.  While the world is in shit,  to be associated with such a rancid piece of predatory greed should be a total embarrassment to him.  Wtf is wrong with people?

[Seymour M Hersh]

One day, maybe..........

 

 

[IronJambo]

8 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

One day, maybe..........

 

 

It's a lot to spend on a watch in such a shan colour. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

59 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

It's a lot to spend on a watch in such a shan colour. 

 

Each to their own I suppose but I'm rather partial to maroon. 

[weegranty]

Just purchased this,wanted one for years and finally bit the bullet.

[Carl Weathers]

^ Like that. 

[IronJambo]

52 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Each to their own I suppose but I'm rather partial to maroon. 

Fair play to you. Seems there's a lot of people think that anything and everything needs to be about football colours. Watches shouldn't come under this category.

[been here before]

13 minutes ago, weegranty said:

Just purchased this,wanted one for years and finally bit the bullet.

 

Not a fan of Tags at all. Style over substance I always think.

 

That looks like an old petrol pump.

 

But then its not me whose bought it so if you like it then thats what matters.

[Seymour M Hersh]

8 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

Fair play to you. Seems there's a lot of people think that anything and everything needs to be about football colours. Watches shouldn't come under this category.

 

Actually I don't think like this at all I just really like the watch and think it's different to most watches. I already have a submariner and it's not based on any football colours whatsoever. 

[Ulysses]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tazio]

11 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fine taste, the best many would say. 

[NANOJAMBO]

31 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beauty in simplicity.

[Ulysses]

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

Fine taste, the best many would say. 

 

52 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Beauty in simplicity.

 

No matter where I look or what I look at, it always comes back to the Calatrava.  They are often sublime.  I told the story a few years ago on this thread of spotting a stunning Calatrava in a shop window while on my lunch break.  It was just stunning, with exactly the kind of simplicity that @NANOJAMBOis thinking about.  It was also more expensive than my car. 

 

Come to think of it, the two Calatravas above are also (each) more expensive than my current car, so I won't be buying one any time soon.

 

@Tazio mentioned Longines earlier in the thread.  Here are a couple of fine examples (IMO, of course), with the kind of simplicity of the Calatravas but perhaps a touch more affordable.

 

 

[IronJambo]

13 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Actually I don't think like this at all I just really like the watch and think it's different to most watches. I already have a submariner and it's not based on any football colours whatsoever. 

You think you'll ever get one? I'd really a 38mm GP Laureato one day but it'll need to be at least ten years away after buying an Explorer last year.

 

Edit: finally managed to add pics.

 

Usually attracted to darker colours but really like the white/silver

 

Edited January 3 by IronJambo

[logie green]

10 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

No matter where I look or what I look at, it always comes back to the Calatrava.  They are often sublime.  I told the story a few years ago on this thread of spotting a stunning Calatrava in a shop window while on my lunch break.  It was just stunning, with exactly the kind of simplicity that @NANOJAMBOis thinking about.  It was also more expensive than my car. 

 

Come to think of it, the two Calatravas above are also (each) more expensive than my current car, so I won't be buying one any time soon.

 

@Tazio mentioned Longines earlier in the thread.  Here are a couple of fine examples (IMO, of course), with the kind of simplicity of the Calatravas but perhaps a touch more affordable.

 

 

have you looked at omega seamaster 1948's?

[NANOJAMBO]

10 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

No matter where I look or what I look at, it always comes back to the Calatrava.  They are often sublime.  I told the story a few years ago on this thread of spotting a stunning Calatrava in a shop window while on my lunch break.  It was just stunning, with exactly the kind of simplicity that @NANOJAMBOis thinking about.  It was also more expensive than my car. 

 

Come to think of it, the two Calatravas above are also (each) more expensive than my current car, so I won't be buying one any time soon.

 

@Tazio mentioned Longines earlier in the thread.  Here are a couple of fine examples (IMO, of course), with the kind of simplicity of the Calatravas but perhaps a touch more affordable.

 

 

Love the second pic. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

7 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

You think you'll ever get one? I'd really a 38mm GP Laureato one day but it'll need to be at least ten years away after buying an Explorer last year.

 

Edit: finally managed to add pics.

 

Usually attracted to darker colours but really like the white/silver

 

 

If I win millions on the lottery so probably not. 

[Carl Weathers]

1 hour ago, IronJambo said:

You think you'll ever get one? I'd really a 38mm GP Laureato one day but it'll need to be at least ten years away after buying an Explorer last year.

 

Edit: finally managed to add pics.

 

Usually attracted to darker colours but really like the white/silver

 

 

Like the blue. I like the fact that only folk that are into watches know about GP.

[Ulysses]

5 hours ago, logie green said:

have you looked at omega seamaster 1948's?

 

I have indeed.  Not bad looking.

 

[Tazio]

In terms of very classically simple dress watches Hamilton do some very nice ones at affordable prices. Also their sister company Tissot. However they are sometimes a bit big. A classic dress watch should be less than 40mm and on a leather strap. For a more contemporary take on it I do like Nomos watches. 

[Tazio]

https://nomos-glashuette.com/en#/en/watches/families/tangente/tangente-overview?context=sidebar

[JamTarts98]

16 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

No matter where I look or what I look at, it always comes back to the Calatrava.  They are often sublime.  I told the story a few years ago on this thread of spotting a stunning Calatrava in a shop window while on my lunch break.  It was just stunning, with exactly the kind of simplicity that @NANOJAMBOis thinking about.  It was also more expensive than my car. 

 

Come to think of it, the two Calatravas above are also (each) more expensive than my current car, so I won't be buying one any time soon.

 

@Tazio mentioned Longines earlier in the thread.  Here are a couple of fine examples (IMO, of course), with the kind of simplicity of the Calatravas but perhaps a touch more affordable.

 

 

Beautiful watch. I can highly recommend the Tissot version of this. Classic style (not everyone's taste admittedly) and was my first 'expensive' watch at £190.00. 

[Sooperstar]

59 minutes ago, Tazio said:

In terms of very classically simple dress watches Hamilton do some very nice ones at affordable prices. Also their sister company Tissot. However they are sometimes a bit big. A classic dress watch should be less than 40mm and on a leather strap. For a more contemporary take on it I do like Nomos watches. 

I was looking at Hamilton watches recently but found that all were too big for my pathetic wrists.

[Tazio]

1 minute ago, Sooperstar said:

I was looking at Hamilton watches recently but found that all were too big for my pathetic wrists.

The problem with the Hamilton’s isn’t the size as much as the length. Lug to lug they’re very long, I’ve got a nice Hamilton that’s a 41mm but about 50mm lug to lug. To compare I’ve got a couple of Orient dive watches that are 42mm that should be too big for me but are ok as the lug to lug is only about 47mm. I’ve got pretty small wrists as well and I’m not sure how much longer I’m going to persist with the Hamilton, it’s a great looking watch and I really like it but always have the nagging doubt it’s on the very limit of what I can get away with in terms of size. 

[Candy]

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

https://nomos-glashuette.com/en#/en/watches/families/tangente/tangente-overview?context=sidebar

I've got one of them. Very clean and simple looking. A nice dress watch.

[been here before]

58 minutes ago, Tazio said:

The problem with the Hamilton’s isn’t the size as much as the length. Lug to lug they’re very long, I’ve got a nice Hamilton that’s a 41mm but about 50mm lug to lug. To compare I’ve got a couple of Orient dive watches that are 42mm that should be too big for me but are ok as the lug to lug is only about 47mm. I’ve got pretty small wrists as well and I’m not sure how much longer I’m going to persist with the Hamilton, it’s a great looking watch and I really like it but always have the nagging doubt it’s on the very limit of what I can get away with in terms of size. 

 

Like Elvis, I dont mind a Hamilton. Got this a while back:

 

Edited January 3 by been here before

[Herbert]

22 hours ago, weegranty said:

Just purchased this,wanted one for years and finally bit the bullet.

 

 

Should this not be on the wish.com thread?

[Dawnrazor]

22 hours ago, weegranty said:

Just purchased this,wanted one for years and finally bit the bullet.

That's a bloody big watch!

[Tazio]

14 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

That's a bloody big watch!

Or a damned skinny wrist. They do it in different sizes including a 38mm. 

[Tazio]

24 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

Should this not be on the wish.com thread?

Well that’s not very nice. Not my personal taste but a lot people love them and that’s all that matters really. 

[Dawnrazor]

9 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Or a damned skinny wrist. They do it in different sizes including a 38mm. 

I do like the Black one.

[weegranty]

32 minutes ago, Herbert said:

 

 

Should this not be on the wish.com thread?

Sorry,must have posted on the wrong thread,my mistake.☹️

[weegranty]

3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I do like the Black one.

Very nice.

[Dawnrazor]

1 minute ago, weegranty said:

Very nice.

Or this!

[weegranty]

2 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Or this!

I don't like that colour.

[Dawnrazor]

4 minutes ago, weegranty said:

I don't like that colour.

Not keen on it myself, or the sparkly numbers.

[Herbert]

43 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Well that’s not very nice. Not my personal taste but a lot people love them and that’s all that matters really. 

 

 

For about 2k it looks like something you find on a market stall. 

[Tazio]

Just now, Herbert said:

 

 

For about 2k it looks like something you find on a market stall. 

Unless you know the history of watches and it’s an iconic design. Famously worn by Steve McQueen in the film  Le Mans. As I said not my bag but many like them. 

[Weakened Offender]

23 hours ago, been here before said:

 

That looks like an old petrol pump.

 

 

😂