iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Were his 2 bookings merited? If so I hope the club hammers him. Cost us the game imo. As soon as we had to go 1 up front I knew we wern't scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I knew we weren't scoring this morning. Because we are shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 What games will he miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 I knew we weren't scoring this morning. Because we are shite. We scored 5 in our previous 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 What games will he miss? I think he has an automatic suspension for next week and anymore will depend on whether or not he's gone over the points threshold. Could be completly wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 cup winners Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I knew we weren't scoring this morning. Because we are shite. glad we have fans like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Buaben Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 We scored 5 in our previous 2 games 4 in one game ... Then back to normal last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Harsh to suggest that about Webster. Was a fairly meaningful fixture that we would have probably lost anyway. Now means he'll get a rest for the derby which could work in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Cost us the game today. Need experienced players to wake up and stop taking daft bookings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc22 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I knew we weren't scoring this morning. Because we are shite. Your name suits you. Have to laugh at posts like this. Disappointed in stroller today. Usually very solid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Harsh to suggest that about Webster. Was a fairly meaningful fixture that we would have probably lost anyway. Now means he'll get a rest for the derby which could work in our favour. Seriously, you think,even with 11 men, that we would have lost a game against the leagues weakest team regardless? Holy ****, if thats how far we've fell then just lock the feckin doors now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Your name suits you. Have to laugh at posts like this. Disappointed in stroller today. Usually very solid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Cost us the game today. Need experienced players to wake up and stop taking daft bookings I'll admit if replays show differently but it looked like Beaton cost us the game today from my view. Webster went for a header, eyes on the ball and ended up clashing heads with the Dundee boy. If that's a second yellow then football's gone soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Seriously, you think,even with 11 men, that we would have lost a game against the leagues weakest team regardless? Holy ****, if thats how far we've fell then just lock the feckin doors now!! They'd beaten us on 2 of the 3 occasions earlier this season. Dundee are in the best form they've been in all season and are playing for survival albeit with a slim chance. We don't exactly have an awful lot to play for. Minus the derby, I couldn't really give much of a toss about the rest of the season. Let's just give some young lads a chance and get this campaign over and done with and move on for next season. This season has been horrible and being stuck in the bottom 6 sums that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Am I right in thinking we have scored one goal against this first division outfit? Got to laugh at how hilariously bad that is On topic, Webster has not been good enough this season for me. Exposed as badly off form for the majority of the time Zaliukas has been out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Were his 2 bookings merited? If so I hope the club hammers him. Cost us the game imo. As soon as we had to go 1 up front I knew we wern't scoring. This is a catastrophic post, one deserving of one of these Clearly you weren't at the game yet you ask if his cards were merited and if so, the club should hammer him. You'd have been better starting a thread saying you hate the guy and he's a judas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Why should the club 'hammer' Webster for it? Bookings happen in football, it's a contact sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 This is a catastrophic post, one deserving of one of these Clearly you weren't at the game yet you ask if his cards were merited and if so, the club should hammer him. You'd have been better starting a thread saying you hate the guy and he's a judas! The fact I asked if his cards were merited pretty much makes it clear I wasn't at the game. As for the bit in bold right back at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Living off his reputation recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambosdad Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Gary Locke is not happy with 2nd yellow, per radio interview BBC Scotland. as previously stated eyes on ball, no lead with elbow, unnecessary 2nd yellow. Given some of the challenges I have witnessed this year and Wilson for Celtic against young Paterson comes to mind. both feet up Paterson's back, not even booked, usual double standards. agree however Webster seems either unfit or struggling without Zal. Be interesting to see defense next week given Wilson likely to still be absence. Just hope we are up for derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveNgoo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 When a player goes through the points barrier the ban comes into effect after 14 days. If he has gone though the barrier his ban will rule him out of the derby as well as automatically being suspended for the St Mirren game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Were his 2 bookings merited? If so I hope the club hammers him. Cost us the game imo. As soon as we had to go 1 up front I knew we wern't scoring. You have no idea if his bookings were merited or not (which suggests that you weren't at the game), yet in your opinion, he cost us the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Seriously, you think,even with 11 men, that we would have lost a game against the leagues weakest team regardless? Holy ****, if thats how far we've fell then just lock the feckin doors now!! Aye, cos that hasn't happened at all already this season, never mind twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Aye, cos that hasn't happened at all already this season, never mind twice. So, we should just expect to lose another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Am I right in thinking we have scored one goal against this first division outfit? Got to laugh at how hilariously bad that is On topic, Webster has not been good enough this season for me. Exposed as badly off form for the majority of the time Zaliukas has been out. It's not as bad as it could be, the last time we were big cup holders and they'd just been promoted (98-99 season) they beat us all four times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 You have no idea if his bookings were merited or not (which suggests that you weren't at the game), yet in your opinion, he cost us the game? Fair enough, I can see where your coming from. It would just seem a pretty fair assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 It's not as bad as it could be, the last time we were big cup holders and they'd just been promoted (98-99 season) they beat us all four times! True. I remember speaking to a livid Stephane Adam after one of the defeats at Dens. "They are ****ing shit", was his analysis of the match But at least they were an SPL outfit then, they had earned their place, not been handed it after preparing for life in the first division up until 2 weeks before kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 So, we should just expect to lose another? No, but you'd have to be astonishingly stupid not to be able to see that it would at least be a distinct possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Fair enough, I can see where your coming from. It would just seem a pretty fair assumption. It would seem a pretty unfair assumption to me. It's not as if there's never been an instance of a Hearts player getting an unmerited booking before, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 No, but you'd have to be astonishingly stupid not to be able to see that it would at least be a distinct possibility. I'm not saying it's not a possibility. what I'm saying is we shouldn't be expecting to get beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 It would seem a pretty unfair assumption to me. It's not as if there's never been an instance of a Hearts player getting an unmerited booking before, is it? Yes, which is why I asked if his bookings were merited. Like you said I wasn't at he game so it's pretty unfair that I accuse him of costing us the game. Can someone who was at the game say if they felt Websters sending off was the difference today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedevries Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 If you lead with your arm/elbow going for a high ball - it's a booking! He was doing it all game and has been all season. he was up against Carl Fiinigan and just wasn't good enough. The first card was his weekly bombscare moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 His first booking was for his first tackle of the game, and if that was a booking then so were at least 2 challenges by Dundee players beforehand, but they seemed to get away with absolute murder! The second booking to me looked like a clash of heads, and unless something else happened that I missed then it was never a booking, Beaton was shocking, letting Dundee players off with niggly fouls the whole match and not even speaking to them for some poor challenges, which are expected from a nut job of a side managed by that verminous piece of filth John Brown, they booted us off the park for the first 20 minutes and then when Webster was sent packing they calmed down a bit. Hearts were poor today, even with 11 men, but Dundee were every bit as bad if not worse and thank feck it was only a tenner to get in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 The fact I asked if his cards were merited pretty much makes it clear I wasn't at the game. As for the bit in bold right back at you. My point was that despite asking if merited, it was clear you wanted to lay the blame at his door. Why else start a thread asking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupar Jambo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I'll admit if replays show differently but it looked like Beaton cost us the game today from my view. Webster went for a header, eyes on the ball and ended up clashing heads with the Dundee boy. If that's a second yellow then football's gone soft. Like you 1902 I was convinced he made an effort to head the ball and clashed heads, interesting to see replays. Thought Beaton was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 My point was that despite asking if merited, it was clear you wanted to lay the blame at his door. Why else start a thread asking! Fair enough, and later in the thread I conceded I was wrong to assume that the loss was down to his red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Never a 2nd yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic1874 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 We never looked like we going to win this game today Hamil was a nightmare .. how many times did he actually pass a decent ball McDonald did same as he does everyweek .. blooter up park to Sutton Medhi ..why does this guy even get a game Only deceng tackle all game was McHatties. Lockie .. need do better mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Benoit Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 2nd was never a booking, possibly fouled in lead up to 1st booking but didn't get a good view of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Ewing Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Whether the bookings were merited or not, it sounds like he's been pretty hopeless for most of this season. It's become more evident since Zal's been out, granted. Maybe this is an overreaction from someone who doesn't get to see a many games as they'd like to, but at the moment I wouldn't be fussed at all if he heads elsewhere, especially given our financial situation. Aside from a host of less than stellar performances, he doesn't strike me as a leader on or off the park. Best of luck and all that, and thanks for your contribution to last year, but the time may have come to part ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Fair enough, and later in the thread I conceded I was wrong to assume that the loss was down to his red card. No worries mate. Admittedly Webby has had a few wobbles of late however Zal would have been driven out by an angry mob with pitchforks before he nailed it. Webster is a very good player and I'd love to see him stay if we could keep Zal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Did captain Webster give away the free kick,or let a dead ball in from 40 yards ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Were his 2 bookings merited? If so I hope the club hammers him. Cost us the game imo. As soon as we had to go 1 up front I knew we wern't scoring. will we do this with every player who gets sent off then? ffs.........he`s out there competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 First booking was deserved in the sense that he was on the ground and hauled the attacker down to stop him getting away. But will be interested to see whether the attacker fouled him to result in him being on the ground in the first place. In the second half, a very similar situation in reverese led to a foul being awarded to the Dundee defender who had been caught in possession. Webster had been played into trouble by a poor pass from McHattie, although he should then just have blasted it up or out the park. The second booking wasn't deserved. Webster was beaten to a header and collided heads. Foul, but never a booking. Ref gave in to pressure from the players and crowd whilst Webster was recieving treatment. The ref gave numerous other fouls for challenges for high balls but didn't feel the need to book any of them. The worst of which was a Dundee player going right over the top of the Hearts attacker in the second half. By the stage of the sending off the ref had also choosen not to book a Dundee attacker for going in high on McDonald or another Dundee player for taking out McHattie late, despite indicating he had also committed a number of other fouls. The ref was awful. Very inconsistent. Booked Mehdi for dissent, but then ignored a Dundee attacker yelling abuse at the linesman a couple of minutes later. He also seemed set against booking Dundee playyers. The number of times Dundee committed cynical fouls to stop Hearts breaking quickly out of defence went beyond a joke. The worst fould be a Hearts player was McHattie down in the left corner in the second half when the winger turned him and the ref failed to book him. Ref finally decided to get his cards out against Dundee after they had scored. Didn't think the Dundee player deserved to be sent off either, barely raised his hands. Over all ref ruined the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jambo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Did captain Webster give away the free kick,or let a dead ball in from 40 yards ? Assume you weren't there? Massive deflection off Stevenson for the goal. No way you can blame McDonald for letting it in and I'm not keen on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 will we do this with every player who gets sent off then? ffs.........he`s out there competing. If the sending off is deserved then yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Did captain Webster give away the free kick,or let a dead ball in from 40 yards ? We had the second best defence in the league when Zaliukas was fit. Now it's the 7th best with "captain Webster" taking charge. That's a strange one, eh Winston? You wouldn't think that when "captain Webster" is so good and "bombscare" is so bad, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Fackin hate Dundee.............I was working today but had the radio on driving home from the Weege and listened to the 2nd half..........All i could hear was mumping and moaning Dungdee fans in the background. Bunch of greeting faced furcks......non stop whinging..........( i know i am doing so here but im just making my point.... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 We had the second best defence in the league when Zaliukas was fit. Now it's the 7th best with "captain Webster" taking charge. That's a strange one, eh Winston? You wouldn't think that when "captain Webster" is so good and "bombscare" is so bad, would you? Right....................erm, was the marvellous Zal not in partnership with Webster to make the 2nd best defence in the league? ...Would Zal have coped any better if in Webster`s situation? We`ll never know i suppose but debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Next thing is. Somebody will come on here claiming twenty six handed Dundee six points this season on a plate,with a penalty at Tynecastle,and giving away a free kick at Dens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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