Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Maybe it is closer than I think. There is practically no walk with the bus though. It is also quicker and cheaper. Its not close at all. I use the bus on match days and if its cheaper and quicker then its pretty much a no brainer. I travel with the Mrs so it costs me ?12 return to Haymarket on the Bus, sure I read its going to cost me ?15 on the tram and will be slower. For the money spent the should have taken the thing inside the terminal and then I'm sure it would have been much more profitable. I will try it once I suppose ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Latest brainwave in an effort to appease the Shandwick Place 'traders' is to re-name the Shandwick Place tram stop 'Prices Street/West End' to confuse tourists into getting off the tram early and go to Boots, RS McColl or the Fantasy Palace instead of Jenners and Debenhams! Was there not only to be one stop on Princes st near the Mound anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Its not close at all. I use the bus on match days and if its cheaper and quicker then its pretty much a no brainer. I travel with the Mrs so it costs me ?12 return to Haymarket on the Bus, sure I read its going to cost me ?15 on the tram and will be slower. For the money spent the should have taken the thing inside the terminal and then I'm sure it would have been much more profitable. I will try it once I suppose ! I thought the station at the airport was beside the taxi rank. So it can't be that far from the terminal, and the terminal is being extended and the extension/alterations will mean the tram stop will be nearer the front door. Price is being reported as ?7.50 airport return, or add 50p and get full day bus pass as well. You are supposing that the bus fare will not increase between now and the trams running. I would have thought that the tram to Haymarket, which is mostly off-road will be no slower than the bus for that leg of the journey. If going to Tynecastle you will also have the option of getting off at Murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Its not close at all. I use the bus on match days and if its cheaper and quicker then its pretty much a no brainer. I travel with the Mrs so it costs me ?12 return to Haymarket on the Bus, sure I read its going to cost me ?15 on the tram and will be slower. For the money spent the should have taken the thing inside the terminal and then I'm sure it would have been much more profitable. I will try it once I suppose ! How is it costing you ?12 return from the airport to Haymarket? A day ticket is ?3.50 each for the bus. It should only cost you ?7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 How is it costing you ?12 return from the airport to Haymarket? A day ticket is ?3.50 each for the bus. It should only cost you ?7. Airport bus is more expensive. As is the airport tram. As is an airport taxi. As are most things at the airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 How is it costing you ?12 return from the airport to Haymarket? A day ticket is ?3.50 each for the bus. It should only cost you ?7. If you board an airport bus at the airport its pricier than boarding it elsewhere in town. As is boarding anywhere in town and say you are going to the airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 There's a Lothian bus that goes to the airport though... 35 I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 There's a Lothian bus that goes to the airport though... 35 I think? Aye and it only takes around 2 hours to get to the airport in rush hour! Goes from Ocean Terminal, Easter Road, Abbeyhill, Royal Mile, Forrest Road, Fountain Bridge, Corn Exchange, Gorgie Road, Sighthill, The Gyle, Ingliston then the Airport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 There's a Lothian bus that goes to the airport though... 35 I think? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Aye and it only takes around 2 hours to get to the airport in rush hour! Goes from Ocean Terminal, Easter Road, Abbeyhill, Royal Mile, Forrest Road, Fountain Bridge, Corn Exchange, Gorgie Road, Sighthill, The Gyle, Ingliston then the Airport! Aye, but if you jump off it once it leaves the airport and then jump on a bus to Haymarket? Does it no stop on a bus route to Haymarket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Aye, but if you jump off it once it leaves the airport and then jump on a bus to Haymarket? Does it no stop on a bus route to Haymarket? If it calls at the Gyle shopping centre then you can get a 12 to Haymarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The #100 Airlink bus service has a flat rate fare. ?3.50 single, ?6 return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You Edinburgh folk need to stop moaning. When finished you will have the best transport system in the country (especially with the airport link). In Inverness and the surrounding areas we have one bus company with pretty much a monopoly and a rail service that is woeful imo. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The #100 Airlink bus service has a flat rate fare. ?3.50 single, ?6 return. Only if you're going to or from the airport. If you're going from town to Maybury/Corstorphine etc. it only costs ?1.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You Edinburgh folk need to stop moaning. When finished you will have the best transport system in the country (especially with the airport link). In Inverness and the surrounding areas we have one bus company with pretty much a monopoly and a rail service that is woeful imo. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 We already have one of the best transport systems in the country, serving both Edinburgh and the Lothians, spending over ?700 million pound on a tram that will only serve a very small percentage of this area, is hardly going to enhance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You Edinburgh folk need to stop moaning. When finished you will have the best transport system in the country (especially with the airport link). In Inverness and the surrounding areas we have one bus company with pretty much a monopoly and a rail service that is woeful imo. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 And in a nutshell you have hit on something which will make Edinburgh have a great system. A publically owned bus service which will operate the Tram network aswell. If re-regulation happened, like Edinburgh you'd see a big improvement across the nation in public transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 You Edinburgh folk need to stop moaning. When finished you will have the best transport system in the country (especially with the airport link). In Inverness and the surrounding areas we have one bus company with pretty much a monopoly and a rail service that is woeful imo. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4 We already have the best transport system in Scotland. The best bus service in the UK. We don't need a billion ? tram system plus a decade of road works to replace the number 22! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We already have the best transport system in Scotland. The best bus service in the UK. We don't need a billion ? tram system plus a decade of road works to replace the number 22! And a slower replacement to the 22 at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 And a slower replacement to the 22 at that. No it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 We already have the best transport system in Scotland. The best bus service in the UK. We don't need a billion ? tram system plus a decade of road works to replace the number 22! Just because we have the best doesn't mean we shouldn't make it better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 And you also got loads of decades-old utilities that needed replaced, replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backkick Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We've travelled far, by bus and car And other times, we've went by tramway.... coat already on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobmisterdobster Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We already have the best transport system in Scotland. The best bus service in the UK. We don't need a billion ? tram system plus a decade of road works to replace the number 22! How many other bus services have you used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just because we have the best doesn't mean we shouldn't make it better! And how does introducing a one route, slower and more expensive tram service to the airport, that does not even go to the airport (or at least far short of it compared to the faster and cheaper bus), at a cost of nearly ?100 million, make it better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboceej Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 And how does introducing a one route, slower and more expensive tram service to the airport, that does not even go to the airport (or at least far short of it compared to the faster and cheaper bus), at a cost of nearly ?100 million, make it better? ?1,000 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 How many other bus services have you used? Lothian buses has won best local bus service quite a few times in UK wide awards. Last time in 2011 I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 And you also got loads of decades-old utilities that needed replaced, replaced. Why did they need replaced? And why at the public expense rather than their customers' expense? In addition the chaotic way it was all done will no doubt mean that they made a total mess of it anyway. I see another useful idiot is asking for more. http://www.scotsman.com/news/donald-mackay-driving-on-with-edinburgh-trams-1-3107516 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 And how does introducing a one route, slower and more expensive tram service to the airport, that does not even go to the airport (or at least far short of it compared to the faster and cheaper bus), at a cost of nearly ?100 million, make it better? Look at the map. it goes to the terminal. Plus the airport is being expanded starting this winter and will wrap around the tram stop. One line will lead to more. It has in every city in the UK where a tram has been built. Would you rather the council use the money to build homes for teen moms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Look at the map. it goes to the terminal. Plus the airport is being expanded starting this winter and will wrap around the tram stop. One line will lead to more. It has in every city in the UK where a tram has been built. Would you rather the council use the money to build homes for teen moms? The Council are currently cutting education spending to pay for their open ended tram line operating loss and financing cost. It has been a deeply cynical pork barrel project all the way. Even in the death throes of the battle about the current half line the Council executives (the since left in odd circumstances Dave Anderson) interpreted a vote for stopping the half line at St Andrew Square as being a vote for York Place. The property developers of the St James Centre would no doubt approve. Edited September 24, 2013 by Coco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Look at the map. it goes to the terminal. Plus the airport is being expanded starting this winter and will wrap around the tram stop. One line will lead to more. It has in every city in the UK where a tram has been built. Would you rather the council use the money to build homes for teen moms? I take it you are a teen Mum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I take it you are a teen Mum? I wish. Give up work and take handouts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The Council are currently cutting education spending to pay for their open ended tram line operating loss and financing cost. It has been a deeply cynical pork barrel project all the way. Even in the death throes of the battle about the current half line the Council executives (the since left in odd circumstances Dave Anderson) interpreted a vote for stopping the half line at St Andrew Square as being a vote for York Place. The property developers of the St James Centre would no doubt approve. I don't really care about education funding. Every transport system in scotland is subsidized by taxes. Your arguments are invalid. It was extended to york place to allow easier extension to leith and for turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I don't really care about education funding. Every transport system in scotland is subsidized by taxes. Your arguments are invalid. It was extended to york place to allow easier extension to leith and for turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Why did they need replaced? And why at the public expense rather than their customers' expense? In addition the chaotic way it was all done will no doubt mean that they made a total mess of it anyway. I see another useful idiot is asking for more. http://www.scotsman.com/news/donald-mackay-driving-on-with-edinburgh-trams-1-3107516 "No doubt mean that they made a total mess of it anyway". Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 How many other bus services have you used? About 4 or 5 in the UK. Was more going by the countless awards they have received which they plaster on the back of their buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Look at the map. it goes to the terminal. Plus the airport is being expanded starting this winter and will wrap around the tram stop. One line will lead to more. It has in every city in the UK where a tram has been built. Would you rather the council use the money to build homes for teen moms? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 "No doubt mean that they made a total mess of it anyway". Really? Yes really. Did you not see the chaotic way that it was organised and carried out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester™ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The Council are currently cutting education spending to pay for their open ended tram line operating loss and financing cost. If you are talking about last week's article, I believe its Children and Families as a whole, not just education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 If you are talking about last week's article, I believe its Children and Families as a whole, not just education. Correct. There will have to be spending cuts all over the place to pay for the tram line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes really. Did you not see the chaotic way that it was organised and carried out? I think the organisation of it was poor and that has been the subject of much discussion but I have no idea about the quality of the work carried out and so I wouldn't like to speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think the organisation of it was poor and that has been the subject of much discussion but I have no idea about the quality of the work carried out and so I wouldn't like to speculate. http://www.scotsman.com/news/trams-remedial-work-may-spell-more-misery-yet-1-1742466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Look at the map. it goes to the terminal. Plus the airport is being expanded starting this winter and will wrap around the tram stop. One line will lead to more. It has in every city in the UK where a tram has been built. Would you rather the council use the money to build homes for teen moms? Very much this. I'm going to Manchester this weekend where the tram system is hugely popular and people are lobbying for extensions and new lines to go through their part of town. The Manc trams also reach well out into the suburbs - the equivalent here being trams to the like of Dalkeith and S Queensferry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 How many other bus services have you used? Lothian advertises its winning of Best Bus Service in the UK on its busses. Usually a crest at the drivers door side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 http://www.scotsman.com/news/trams-remedial-work-may-spell-more-misery-yet-1-1742466 I notice that was dated more than two years ago. I presume the work has now been carried out to the required standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Are we ever, in this generation, going to be able to afford any new lines to the current line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Are we ever, in this generation, going to be able to afford any new lines to the current line? Dependent on profitability then I'd hope so. Dublin and Manchester are examples to follow. Two new ones would be to Leith and a "Southern spur" I'd guess. Bringing in a congestion charge would help increase funds for public transport aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 ?1,000 million That is what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Very much this. I'm going to Manchester this weekend where the tram system is hugely popular and people are lobbying for extensions and new lines to go through their part of town. The Manc trams also reach well out into the suburbs - the equivalent here being trams to the like of Dalkeith and S Queensferry. If there was demand for regular public transport from these areas then I am fairly confident Lothian Buses would consider sending a service out there. If they don't already. Suggesting that a tramline from the city centre out to the sticks is even a viable option is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 If there was demand for regular public transport from these areas then I am fairly confident Lothian Buses would consider sending a service out there. If they don't already. Suggesting that a tramline from the city centre out to the sticks is even a viable option is laughable. Lothian Buses don't send a service out to South Queensferry. Despite folk asking for one, and them saying on their literature they serve the people of Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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