Jambo Ell Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 EDIT: MODS Just seen this posted in Rangers admin thread. Feel free to delete. Cheers Published on Saturday 18 February 2012 00:00 VLADIMIR ROMANOV has attacked the way Rangers has run its affairs and criticised the Scottish football authorities for failing to impose a tougher punishment. The Hearts owner, who has been a persistent and outspoken critic of what he sees as the establishment ever since he arrived in Scotland, gave his opinion as his club stand to lose around ?800,000 in transfer money still owing from the Lee Wallace move to Rangers. With administration now in place, and Hearts an unsecured creditor, there is very little expectation that Hearts will see more than a small fraction of the money that is still owed to the Tynecastle club. ?The bankruptcy of Rangers shows again how insolently and arrogantly operate the Scottish football mafia,? he blasted. ?They stole taxpayers? money, violating the rules of honest competition between the clubs. And for that were not even stripped of second place in the league table. ?And it was all happening while they desperately wanted to push Hearts into bankruptcy through the tax authorities and the league. They plotted conspiracies in our club and tried to spread panic. ?But in fact they needed all this just to distract attention from their own dubious activities.? Hearts have had a number of financial glitches to deal with themselves, ranging from late payment of players? wages which culminated in the players? union and the SPL becoming involved, to the shadow of the HMRC which has issued a number of winding-up orders for non-payment which have always been resolved. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/vladimir_romanov_hits_out_at_authorities_over_rangers_punishment_1_2123995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamborello Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Mafia" "Conspiracies" Play a different record Vlad, I've heard this one before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Mafia" "Conspiracies" Play a different record Vlad, I've heard this one before. Yes, the idea that there is some sort of hidden scheme out to protect the old firm is clearly nonsense given recent events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Mafia" "Conspiracies" Play a different record Vlad, I've heard this one before. What record would you play to describe it? "Mafia" and "conspiracies" sounds just about right to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Wiseau Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Oh Mr Romanov, thank the lord you are around to tell it like it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamborello Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Yes, the idea that there is some sort of hidden scheme out to protect the old firm is clearly nonsense given recent events. I agree entirely that the authorities seem to be bending over backwards to help Rangers, and did nothing of the sort for us. But Vlad seems unable to release any statement about any subject without mentioning conspiracies and mafias. It gets a bit old when you've heard it for the umpteenth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 What record would you play to describe it? "Mafia" and "conspiracies" sounds just about right to me Mafia = organised crime Conspiracy = an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act Vlad's tired old words seem to be getting more relevant by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Mr Romanov has elevated his status above deity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:shitwine: Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Vlad tells it like it is again - great work, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I agree entirely that the authorities seem to be bending over backwards to help Rangers, and did nothing of the sort for us. But Vlad seems unable to release any statement about any subject without mentioning conspiracies and mafias. It gets a bit old when you've heard it for the umpteenth time. So you agree that there is a concerted effort being made by groups of people working together towards a nefarious end? But you object to terms like mafia and conspiracy? Whilst previous statements might've featured an overkill about scottish football being bent, i think that statement was bang on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Vladimir speaks the truth once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHearts Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 All hail Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 It's not often I say this about Vlad, but this time... he is BANG ON THE CASH! Sometimes, there's an elephant in the room SO ******* HUGE that no-one can see it, and someone has to shout "Am I the only ***** that can see this MASSIVE ******* elephant?" On this occasion, at least, Vlad is saying what all SPL club owners ought to be saying. Even BBC Sportsound staff must agree with Romanov on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylhmfc1 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Again for me mr romanov has told it exactly like it is again!! Imagine if we were in the same situation as rangers would the scottish government be getting involved? I don't think so!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Man, I love that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamborello Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 So you agree that there is a concerted effort being made by groups of people working together towards a nefarious end? But you object to terms like mafia and conspiracy? Whilst previous statements might've featured an overkill about scottish football being bent, i think that statement was bang on the money. I agree that Rangers are being given an easy ride, far more than any other non old firm team would be in the same circumstances. To be honest theres not much to disagree with in this statement, not something I could normally say with Vlad, but given that he uses 'mafia' and conspiracy so often it takes away the impact when theyre actually used for something relevant. And I prefer to leave all the 'Its a conspiracy' BS to Celtic, we're better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I've swam Loch Ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Well said Vlad.but does anybody else think somebody else has helped in making it sound a bit less dare i say.....mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 If nothing else, we know how Hearts will be voting should the SPL need to do so. Get them telt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I don't think Vlad has gone far enough , has he gone a bit soft or feeling sorry for them , there must be more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 EDIT: MODS Just seen this posted in Rangers admin thread. Feel free to delete. Cheers Published on Saturday 18 February 2012 00:00 VLADIMIR ROMANOV has attacked the way Rangers has run its affairs and criticised the Scottish football authorities for failing to impose a tougher punishment. The Hearts owner, who has been a persistent and outspoken critic of what he sees as the establishment ever since he arrived in Scotland, gave his opinion as his club stand to lose around ?800,000 in transfer money still owing from the Lee Wallace move to Rangers. With administration now in place, and Hearts an unsecured creditor, there is very little expectation that Hearts will see more than a small fraction of the money that is still owed to the Tynecastle club. ?The bankruptcy of Rangers shows again how insolently and arrogantly operate the Scottish football mafia,? he blasted. ?They stole taxpayers? money, violating the rules of honest competition between the clubs. And for that were not even stripped of second place in the league table. ?And it was all happening while they desperately wanted to push Hearts into bankruptcy through the tax authorities and the league. They plotted conspiracies in our club and tried to spread panic. ?But in fact they needed all this just to distract attention from their own dubious activities.? Hearts have had a number of financial glitches to deal with themselves, ranging from late payment of players? wages which culminated in the players? union and the SPL becoming involved, to the shadow of the HMRC which has issued a number of winding-up orders for non-payment which have always been resolved. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/vladimir_romanov_hits_out_at_authorities_over_rangers_punishment_1_2123995 Vlad just 3 words repeated over and over 'we want more' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Hearts owner, who has been a persistent and outspoken critic of what he sees as the establishment ever since he arrived in Scotland, gave his opinion as his club stand to lose around ?800,000 in transfer money still owing from the Lee Wallace move to Rangers. With administration now in place, and Hearts an unsecured creditor, there is very little expectation that Hearts will see more than a small fraction of the money that is still owed to the Tynecastle club. If Rangers default on the Wallace payment we will get the money from the SPL at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syndicalist Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I think its questionable that we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 That's very tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Massively tame. We just need a statement from the SPL assuring us that our cash (as well as that owed to other SPL clubs) is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "Mafia" "Conspiracies" Play a different record Vlad, I've heard this one before. Where have you been for the past week? Quite right Vlad. Stick it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Apart from deducting 10 points and refusing them to register a player, what have the SPL actually done? Have they helped them? What is Mad Vald GTF actually complaining aboot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Apart from deducting 10 points and refusing them to register a player, what have the SPL actually done? Have they helped them? What is Mad Vald GTF actually complaining aboot? For the same reasons we have been complaining about since Tuesday and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I agree with every word in that statement. One thing I can't understand though is the Lee Wallace transfer!! At the time we sold him I remember saying that I hoped we got all the money up front as rangers were in shite state!! I am amazed that Vlad/hearts entered into an instalment plan with rangers to be totally honest, someone needs their erse kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Apart from deducting 10 points and refusing them to register a player, what have the SPL actually done? Have they helped them? What is Mad Vald GTF actually complaining aboot? Allowed a member club to run well outwith its means, building up massive losses and debts as well as running with an HMRC tax investigation in the background. VR lives in a greenhouse and is chucking stones. http://soccerlens.com/chaos-in-kaunas-the-decline-and-fall-of-the-romanov-empire/27087/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radge21 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Oh Mr Romanov, thank the lord you are around to tell it like it is Vlad is saying Apart from the automatic ten point deduction that everyone would receive, the SPL/GFA/Neil Doncaster have said and done nothing. While Hearts were given emergency meetings and conference calls for some of the players missing wages which in fact had been paid on time. While the tax payers/ticketus have been robbed of up to ?75million. And other SPL clubs cheated out of money. No wonder he is furious I certainly am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Allowed a member club to run well outwith its means, building up massive losses and debts as well as running with an HMRC tax investigation in the background. VR lives in a greenhouse and is chucking stones. http://soccerlens.co...v-empire/27087/ I wouldn't worry about it I doubt there is a single pane of glass left. At least we can sit back with some pride at how our own financial affairs are. You go Vlad tell it like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wouldn't worry about it I doubt there is a single pane of glass left. At least we can sit back with some pride at how our own financial affairs are. You go Vlad tell it like it is. Paulo Sergio showed a lot more class in his comments on the situation. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/02/17/hearts-boss-paulo-sergio-we-re-aiming-for-top-four-finish-in-spl-86908-23754672/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wouldn't worry about it I doubt there is a single pane of glass left. At least we can sit back with some pride at how our own financial affairs are. You go Vlad tell it like it is. Did you explain yet why you voted a Rangers newco should be voted directly into the spl by Hearts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Paulo Sergio showed a lot more class in his comments on the situation. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/02/17/hearts-boss-paulo-sergio-we-re-aiming-for-top-four-finish-in-spl-86908-23754672/ the team that is currently 2nd in the SPL should be expelled for massive tax fraud over the last 10 years plus failure to pay remittances greater than any SPL clubs revenue this season (except Celtic of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Did you explain yet why you voted a Rangers newco should be voted directly into the spl by Hearts? Didn't realise I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Didn't realise I had to. you don't but unless you can offer a rational explanation in defence of your opinion then it leaves little room but to suspect the worst with regards to your motivations which is a shame as you are a poster i genuinely respect if not always agree with. I was genuinely surprised and disappointed you would vote for those orcs given the scale of their cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Did you explain yet why you voted a Rangers newco should be voted directly into the spl by Hearts? Didn't realise I had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 you don't but unless you can offer a rational explanation in defence of your opinion then it leaves little room but to suspect the worst with regards to your motivations which is a shame as you are a poster i genuinely respect if not always agree with. I was genuinely surprised and disappointed you would vote for those orcs given the scale of their cheating. I made my reasons pretty clear on another Rangers/SPL/SFA/Mafia/Monkeys bashing thread. If rangers die, go into the 3rd division or stay in the SPL I really wouldn't bat an eyelid either way. The things is I really couldn't give a **** what happens to Rangers but I would rather go to a packed tynecastle to watch us beat rangers than be part of the 11k beating some pish from the 1st division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I made my reasons pretty clear on another Rangers/SPL/SFA/Mafia/Monkeys bashing thread. If rangers die, go into the 3rd division or stay in the SPL I really wouldn't bat an eyelid either way. The things is I really couldn't give a **** what happens to Rangers but I would rather go to a packed tynecastle to watch us beat rangers than be part of the 11k beating some pish from the 1st division. A fair enough opinion but that should happen in 2015 or 2016 than 2012 or 2013, why should Hearts vote for clemency for such massive cheats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Oh Mr Romanov. You magnificent basterd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I hate it when I agree with Vlad..............................but this time he is telling it exactly how it is. Well said, Vlad. Doncaster and his cronies have been shown up to be cowardly puppets of the old firm and whilst Vlad is usually one statement away from the loony bin, he is echoing exactly what many of us have been saying. Feel like being interested again, Mr R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "?They stole taxpayers? money, violating the rules of honest competition between the clubs. And for that were not even stripped of second place in the league table." This is the bit I agree with most. Glad to hear Vlad hasn't completely lost interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Vlad is once again shown to know what he's talking about. The fact that the footballing authorities have only just decided to investigate whyte properly says it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 A fair enough opinion but that should happen in 2015 or 2016 than 2012 or 2013, why should Hearts vote for clemency for such massive cheats? I just don't see it as cheating. Severe financial mismanagement and bad advice from accountants has got them into this mess. Are we cheating when signing players while ?30m in debt and struggling to pay wages ? Didn't we offer players contracts but the wages were to come from and paid into foreign countries ? You never know when you might need the same clemency and if a precedence has been set we should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 "?They stole taxpayers? money, violating the rules of honest competition between the clubs. And for that were not even stripped of second place in the league table." This is the bit I agree with most. Glad to hear Vlad hasn't completely lost interest. So you want the SPL to ignore the rules that are in place for dealing with Administration ? Can you imagine this place if we went into Administration and the SPL turned round and said instead of the 10point deduction as per our rules we are deducting you 25points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Allowed a member club to run well outwith its means, building up massive losses and debts as well as running with an HMRC tax investigation in the background. VR lives in a greenhouse and is chucking stones. http://soccerlens.co...v-empire/27087/ The article you link to is mostly opinion and heresay. What does it have to do with the Rangers' situation? and how does it detract from what Romanov has just said about the Rangers' situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Jose Carricondo Perez Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Vlad telling it like it is and saying what other Chairman/owners are afraid to say. Incidentally, the silence from a certain poster on here is deafening. All to often he appears on here to jump down Vlads throat, interesting he's had nothing to say on the Gers situation......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I bet he didn't even have a red face after that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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