Diego10 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out. Speechless. Jebus. What a fat buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out. Speechless. DJ = What an utter goon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 and some folk were wetting themselves that we would be facing a shadow team tomorrow. that's that one fecked then. i can see us getting pummeled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 <br />Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out.<br /><br /> Speechless. <br /> <br /> <img src='http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/facepalm.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /> <br /><br /><br /> Holy shit really?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Guy who phoned in on Real Radio who said he had inside info, it seems Laugherty and Naismith refused 100 percent to take a wage cut. And administrators were at Murray Park taking serial numbers of plant and tractors etc for the forth coming sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out. Speechless. What an arse. Not only is it ludicrous, it is also illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out. Speechless. If it wasn't connected with the criminals at Ibrox, it would be unbelievable! By the way, is this the first football club where the players are driving the administration process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) A million a month?! That's the big earners coats on a shoogly peg as well. Their squad isn't big enough to cut off the low earners/squad players and save that kind of money. Indeed, if you take it down to a basic 4 weeks per month it equates to savings of ?250K per week, so if rangers are looking to make only 11 players redundant to save the rest of the squad it would have to be players earning around ?22,800 a week, which will make a serious dent in the first team squad as they'd have to release those they probably want to keep. Either that or they are going to have to make many many more lower earning players and general employees redundant. Edited March 2, 2012 by portobellojambo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radge21 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Does anyone else think that the administrators are at it. I thought they were supposed to come in and decide what was going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 and some folk were wetting themselves that we would be facing a shadow team tomorrow. that's that one fecked then. i can see us getting pummeled now. Never in doubt! I think the chumps/administrators might try to see if they can delay the player redundancies to the end of the season! The creditors are obviously the least important players in this pantomime. If somebody had wriiten a novel as acted out so far, it would be well and truly slaughtered for being ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Administrators statement: DUFF and Phelps, the administrators of Rangers Football Club, issued the following statement today. Paul Clark, joint administrator, said: "We appreciate this has been an extremely difficult week for all the staff of Rangers Football Club and the supporters. "As administrators, we had anticipated completing our review of staffing levels and cost structure of the Rangers business this week but the participation of a number of players in international fixtures did interrupt the process. In other words, our progress has been impeded by the fact the Rangers team is stuffed with internationalists as a result of the taxpayers' subsidy! I'd say unbelievable if that word was not now hopelessly devalued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Does anyone else think that the administrators are at it. I thought they were supposed to come in and decide what was going to happen. Never in doubt! I think the chumps/administrators might try to see if they can delay the player redundancies to the end of the season! The creditors are obviously the least important players in this pantomime. If somebody had wriiten a novel as acted out so far, it would be well and truly slaughtered for being ridiculous. it's ludicrous. ?250,000 black hole per week and they continue to drag this out. creditors should go completely banzai about this because there hasn't been an honest attempt to stop ongoing losses. if i was a creditor to rangers i would be exploring every conceivable route to have duff & phelps investigated. filthy, robbing, cheating, bent feckers. and that's just duff & phelps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Even stupid people laugh at Derek Johnstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 because hes a hun bassa, just like his co-worker jim white Im pretty sure he favours the otherside, he is good friends with a mate of mine who used to player for Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl2002 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Even stupid people laugh at Derek Johnstone. but is it not mainly stupid people who listen to Derek Johnstone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Derek Johnstone suggesting on Real Radio that Rangers should take ?10 from the accounts of everyone with bank details on their system to raise cash, and if people don't want this to happen, they can opt-out. Speechless. If they did that, each ?10 would become ?12 if they were a charity and the punters had signed a Gift Aid form, so that they could recover the tax from H M ... r ... c Oh .... Wait ... Edited March 2, 2012 by jambovambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 In other words, our progress has been impeded by the fact the Rangers team is stuffed with internationalists as a result of the taxpayers' subsidy! I'd say unbelievable if that word was not now hopelessly devalued. I'm genuinely struggling to comprehend how players bein away can stop them looking at the balance sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanes de Silentio Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Does anyone else think that the administrators are at it. I thought they were supposed to come in and decide what was going to happen. Of course they are - it's the same mob that advised Craig Whyte on the take-over, is it not? Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Does anyone else think that the administrators are at it. I thought they were supposed to come in and decide what was going to happen. Not sure if they are at it, but it is certainly a different if not unique way to deal with such a situation, rather than the nornal practice of being appointed and then making the hard decisions.. And despite these savings they plan on making through redundancies, that is only to ensure Rangers can continue to trade until the end of the season, I've heard no mention of producing savings to pay the tax man whatever amount they are due for the present tax year, nor any other body presently awaiting money from them. Edited March 2, 2012 by portobellojambo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 In Duff & Phelps Money (Not The Real World) - ?250K will equate to ?25K, meaning they can offload next to no-one and every Hun is Happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 it's basically the same as paramedics driving a critically ill person back to the hospital in the ambulance at very low speed and turning round and saying that they did because they wanted to save a bit on fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I can't believe that the players are almost being allowed to negotiate terms the administrators. Shouldn't the administrators dictate terms to the company to get the best deal for the creditors? Maybe they fell for the Keith Jackson story that 'Big hearted Gers stars' were prepared to take a pay support lower paid staff. Personally, I doubted that Laffatme would be happy to sacrifice one of his fleet of porsches to keep a cleaner in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 This administration is fast beginning to stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is there anything we can do? Why is everyone sitting here bumping their gums? I'm as angry as the next tax payer but really there is absolutely feck all any of us can do. And to be perfectly honest as soon as Whyte got his way with appointing his OWN administrator we knew this would be the case. It is exactly this reason Whyte wanted Duff and Phelps and not an independent administrator that HMRC wanted. About the only thing we can do is sit back and watch the show unfurl, and when the time comes make sure we put enough pressure on our own club/Vlad to reject any newco Hun team etc and take them for everything. The unfortunate thing about that is while I genuinely believe ourselves and possibly Celtic will reject a newco huns the spineless at the methadome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What an arse. Not only is it ludicrous, it is also illegal. Illegal you say. These 104 pages would tend to lead us to belive that that really isn't something Rankgers have a lot of sleepless nights over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Cont. And other clubs will openly accept them. This is the best chance Scottish football will ever have to rid the corruption and duopoly within the game. To make S outrush football a better product and breathe new life into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Grown men acting like bairns because people aren't losing their jobs quickly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What happens when the tax year ends on the 5th April?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Never in doubt! I think the chumps/administrators might try to see if they can delay the player redundancies to the end of the season! The creditors are obviously the least important players in this pantomime. If somebody had wriiten a novel as acted out so far, it would be well and truly slaughtered for being ridiculous. This. Its like the Kennedy family life story. If it was a work of fiction it would be thrown out as being to unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Rangers monthly wage bill is over 2 million pound, that's a 50% cut needed to solve their problems. Greegsy and co better give their agents a call, they're going to be needing a new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Root Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Grown men acting like bairns because people aren't losing their jobs quickly enough. There is a statistical possibility that some of the people who post on this forum are midgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Grown men acting like bairns because people aren't losing their jobs quickly enough. A bit unfair in my opinion. Granted I haven't read 100 odd pages of comments but I don't think I've seen any posts taking any pleasure about ordinary working people being put on the dole. While few will have sympathy for guys like Lafferty and McGregor nobody is looking forward to the hearing about office or backroom staff losing their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 poor trolling from partridge there. he'll have to give winnie a bell sometime so they can go for a pint and swap wumming tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I can't believe that the players are almost being allowed to negotiate terms the administrators. Shouldn't the administrators dictate terms to the company to get the best deal for the creditors? Maybe they fell for the Keith Jackson story that 'Big hearted Gers stars' were prepared to take a pay support lower paid staff. Personally, I doubted that Laffatme would be happy to sacrifice one of his fleet of porsches to keep a cleaner in a job. Something isn't right as the beeb have a quote from the administrators saying: But he said: "We would prefer to reach a consensual position. "As the day has gone on and a very important match against Hearts looms larger, it has been agreed that any final decisions have been postponed." Sorry but it's pretty straight forward. They didn't accept the deal put to them therefore what's left to talk about. This is a complete and utter farce! I'd have thought that the latest revelations from their former director may turn the screw on them even more with the administrators acting as expected or should I say, just doing they're bloody job! They have to cut costs by 1M per month just to see through to the end of the season therefore they need to act very quickly to address this. If they seriously think they can make these cuts then by delaying by a week you could argue would cost them just over 200k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) poor trolling from partridge there. he'll have to give winnie a bell sometime so they can go for a pint and swap wumming tips. No-one coming out to play, so settle down in front of the laptop for an evening of smiley posting action. Superb, It's what all "grown men" do on a Friday night dontcha know. Edited March 2, 2012 by Robert Finlayson Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Jane Lewis: Rangers 1st team agreed 2 substantial salary deferrals til end of season. Administrators indicate they'd b highly unlikely 2 agree 2 that. PFA Scotland - it's still our members wish 2 reach a consensual position with the Administrators and reach objectives avoiding redundancies. Edited March 2, 2012 by ritchies75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No trolling from me. It's not nice to see people losing their jobs. They had the PFA in yesterday giving talks to the youngsters about life after football. Forget your McGregor's and Naismith's, that's the reality of it. But lets wet our pants because the administrators are taking their time sacking people. It'll make us feel better about our pishy wee life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Grown men acting like bairns because people aren't losing their jobs quickly enough. Sorry but if I ran a business they way they have run the club I'd be up in court on fraud and tax evasion looking at a jail term. People are seething that despite everything done plus even more coming out, it would almost seem as though the administrators are dancing to the tune of the magical flute! Just seen your above reply. If you were a weapon, you'd truly be a WMD! Edited March 2, 2012 by Rudolf's Mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world_3 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is there anything we can do? Why is everyone sitting here bumping their gums? I'm as angry as the next tax payer but really there is absolutely feck all any of us can do. And to be perfectly honest as soon as Whyte got his way with appointing his OWN administrator we knew this would be the case. It is exactly this reason Whyte wanted Duff and Phelps and not an independent administrator that HMRC wanted. About the only thing we can do is sit back and watch the show unfurl, and when the time comes make sure we put enough pressure on our own club/Vlad to reject any newco Hun team etc and take them for everything. The unfortunate thing about that is while I genuinely believe ourselves and possibly Celtic will reject a newco huns the spineless at the methadome It'll most probably just be us who reject the newco. Celtic need Rangers to keep their smelly trampy psychopathic support interested, and even clubs like Dundee United where the owners hate Rangers will be worried about losing the TV money. I'm 100% sure Vlad will tell them to GTF though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No trolling from me. It's not nice to see people losing their jobs. They had the PFA in yesterday giving talks to the youngsters about life after football. Forget your McGregor's and Naismith's, that's the reality of it. But lets wet our pants because the administrators are taking their time sacking people. It'll make us feel better about our pishy wee life. AP as hard as it may sound a dose of reality may be the best thing that happens to the youth players, particularly those that will have been around the likes of McCulloch & Greegsy. Watching guys like that with feck all between their ears lording it up on ?20k p/w warps one's sense of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No trolling from me. It's not nice to see people losing their jobs. They had the PFA in yesterday giving talks to the youngsters about life after football. Forget your McGregor's and Naismith's, that's the reality of it. But lets wet our pants because the administrators are taking their time sacking people. It'll make us feel better about our pishy wee life. But the longer they delay cutting players, the worse for the business and staff on buttons. cutting Someone on 10k per week could probably pay for about 20 staff. The senior players will get other gigs, they won't suffer anything more than a pay cut. Which is why I find the delaying tactics mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No trolling from me. It's not nice to see people losing their jobs. They had the PFA in yesterday giving talks to the youngsters about life after football. Forget your McGregor's and Naismith's, that's the reality of it. But lets wet our pants because the administrators are taking their time sacking people. It'll make us feel better about our pishy wee life. nonsense. i doubt anyone would relish seeing the club workers lose their jobs, or indeed the young players. they will form part of the overall cuts in any case. people all over the country have been losing jobs for a long time now and they are all equally lamentable. it's not simply about that though. people quite rightly want to see rangers - the football club as a whole - be forced into making painful cuts. they don't deserve to retain their squad. their fans deserve every bit of anguish coming to them. the club deserves to languish down the league for as long as possible. i don't believe for a second that you yourself don't want to see rangers squad ripped to bits. you're just being contrary for whatever reason as yet unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesmith Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No trolling from me. It's not nice to see people losing their jobs. They had the PFA in yesterday giving talks to the youngsters about life after football. Forget your McGregor's and Naismith's, that's the reality of it. But lets wet our pants because the administrators are taking their time sacking people. It'll make us feel better about our pishy wee life. Spot on. Anyone who is expecting a mass cull of the first team is living in a dream land. Yes a few will go but these will be the guys over 30 on 15K a week who have no future value and will have nice little nest eggs set up. The rest will be young guys who have chased the football dream and are probably on no more than a lot of the posters on this board. The only people going to lose out here is the young guys and non playing side. Salary deferrals are ludicrous though as if the money doesn't exist their is no way the creditors should be committing to spend the end of season pay outs on wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 nonsense. i doubt anyone would relish seeing the club workers lose their jobs, or indeed the young players. they will form part of the overall cuts in any case. people all over the country have been losing jobs for a long time now and they are all equally lamentable. it's not simply about that though. people quite rightly want to see rangers - the football club as a whole - be forced into making painful cuts. they don't deserve to retain their squad. their fans deserve every bit of anguish coming to them. the club deserves to languish down the league for as long as possible. i don't believe for a second that you yourself don't want to see rangers squad ripped to bits. you're just being contrary for whatever reason as yet unknown. To be fair I don't think he does, he has stated before that he doesn't really mind Rangers. Each to their own and all that. I despise them personally, about as much as Celtic really. Also no-one wants to see low level staff at a football club on the dole and that is patently obvious unless ignored on purpose to suit an agenda. Is the dole not funded by our (those who pay it anyway - not Rangers) tax money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 AP as hard as it may sound a dose of reality may be the best thing that happens to the youth players, particularly those that will have been around the likes of McCulloch & Greegsy. Watching guys like that with feck all between their ears lording it up on ?20k p/w warps one's sense of reality. Probably better in the long term, but these guys are in for a nightmare few days/weeks/months through no fault of their own. Same with the non playing staff, hundreds out of work at an awful time to be unemployed. The actual first team squad that everyone is focusing on get a wee holiday and a nice signing on fee for their new club. The fans suffer a wee bit aye but put it this way, they'll definitely win another league title before we do. Just find it a wee bit sad that folk can't wait to see all these cuts. Not thinking it through really. Anyway I've been accused of trolling and personally abused in this thread so I can see an alternative view isn't welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) To be fair I don't think he does, he has stated before that he doesn't really mind Rangers. Each to their own and all that. I despise them personally, about as much as Celtic really. Also no-one wants to see low level staff at a football club on the dole and that is patently obvious unless ignored on purpose to suit an agenda. Is the dole not funded by our (those who pay it anyway - not Rangers) tax money? correct moffy. it's diversionary to bleat about young players and club staff. a great many people lose their jobs every day of the week. nobody wants that. young players at rangers aren't finished in football in any case. many will move on to other clubs... some may well fall by the wayside, but young players do that anyway, whether they lose their jobs or not. if they are destined to make it in the game then they will anyway. people are right to be very keen to see some real and tangible cost cutting being done. it's a show of faith that this episode is being done at least partially honestly. if partridge or anyone else isn't bothered about rangers not having to make cuts then fair enough. it's a perfectly valid personal choice. simpering on about emotive things such as young players and club workers is unnecessary. Edited March 2, 2012 by The Revenant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fermit the Krog Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Probably better in the long term, but these guys are in for a nightmare few days/weeks/months through no fault of their own. Same with the non playing staff, hundreds out of work at an awful time to be unemployed. The actual first team squad that everyone is focusing on get a wee holiday and a nice signing on fee for their new club. The fans suffer a wee bit aye but put it this way, they'll definitely win another league title before we do. Just find it a wee bit sad that folk can't wait to see all these cuts. Not thinking it through really. Anyway I've been accused of trolling and personally abused in this thread so I can see an alternative view isn't welcome. Your 'alternative view' was already aired a few pages back. I never got the accusations of trolling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 personally abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 personally abused. I believe that can cause blindness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Get with the program AP. We hate Rangers and want them to die. Don't like it then GTFO! :'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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