Australis Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 When do the SFA get involved with all these "emergency loans" . They would be warning and all over any other club. #shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If Ashley does get his loan agreed, what's the odds that one of the conditions is the removal of Fat Sally? McCoist has been vocal in his backing of King and surely Ashley can see he's a chump. The bottom line is that Ashley will make money on his loan BUT he will also want Rangers promoted so that he can rake in the cash from merchandising and stadium rights. A decent manager would mean less outlay on players. If Ashley gets his loan agreed he will do so with the stadium in his ownership/security. He will then want the spivs to spunk all the money and send the club to the wall so he can use his shiny new stadium, and his badge and naming rights on a third rangers that Mike owns outright. He won't want to share the spoils with the existing shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Are you just replying to your own quotes in some bizarre attempt to trawl He only used to appear on this thread, saying that it should be shutdown, now he's talking to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis2006 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 He only used to appear on this thread, saying that it should be shutdown, now he's talking to himself. Utterly bizarre behaviour Next he'll be waffling on in 3rd person like Billy Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Bill McMurdo's latest Jack Irvine creation http://billmcmurdo.wordpress.com/ 'the Rangers hating press in Scotland' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ematsone Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Its lovely watching rangers getting ragdolled again , its almost become an annual event! Like an empty tracksuit! Marvelous stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyjamboDerbyshire Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 'scott_jambo, on 09 October 2014 - 08:23 AM, said: Mike Ashley has saved rangers. Of that there can be no mistake.' Isn't that a bit like a Hibs supporter telling us they've already beaten us on Sunday, even though the event is still some time away - just because they feel the need to believe it? In the same way that Hibs might beat us, Ashley might save TRFC, but neither event has come to pass yet. By the way, it's much too late for even a man as rich as Ashley to save Rangers. TRFC, on the other hand, still desperately need saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Charles Paterson @charlesp_sky Sources close to Mike Ashley tell SSNHQ they believe Rangers are in severe financial difficulties & require his immediate financial help What? No shit Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm sure the players are relaxed. Ignore everything and watch the omnibus edition of Coronation Street... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm hearing rumours there has been a 'mob'/gathering protesting outside Sandy Easdales house earlier this evening, and have spray painted "Get out! Get out!" on the property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 @tedermeatballs: Another incredible day at Ibrox. I understand things are becoming very, very nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 @tedermeatballs: Another incredible day at Ibrox. I understand things are becoming very, very nasty. and keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago I believe Mike Ashley has been threatening all sorts action if his package is not rubber-stamped. And amid all of this chaos, where exactly was Graham Wallace? You would not believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Jackson still making guff up and pretending there's a massive bit of news on the way in order to sell papers to deranged Rangers fans? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The last few posts remind me why I cannot be arsed with Twitter these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 and keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago I believe Mike Ashley has been threatening all sorts action if his package is not rubber-stamped. And amid all of this chaos, where exactly was Graham Wallace? You would not believe it. Keith Jackson-'I believe' So did Robson and Jerome. That was a load of shite too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 and keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago I believe Mike Ashley has been threatening all sorts action if his package is not rubber-stamped. And amid all of this chaos, where exactly was Graham Wallace? You would not believe it. Is Wallace not supposed to be on gardening leave, if you believe PMcG's version of events (not that I necessarily do). But he has been strangely quiet for a CEO in these turbulent times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I finish my position next Fri so don't know much but it was panic stations today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Jesus keef. Can't wait for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 and keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago I believe Mike Ashley has been threatening all sorts action if his package is not rubber-stamped. And amid all of this chaos, where exactly was Graham Wallace? You would not believe it. You have to wonder what sort of action Ashley is capable of taking if this is true. Exactly what sort of hold does he have over Rangers? He only holds just under 10% of the shares, so he doesn't hold power on that basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I finish my position next Fri so don't know much but it was panic stations today. Are you bringing them down from the inside?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Gives McCoist a pre packaged excuse for his teams shoddy performances Interesting thought but what sort of shenanigans will they need to get up to after the New Year if we are 12+ points ahead? When do the SFA get involved with all these "emergency loans" . They would be warning and all over any other club Hearts. #shambles FTFY You have to wonder what sort of action Ashley is capable of taking if this is true. Exactly what sort of hold does he have over Rangers? He only holds just under 10% of the shares, so he doesn't hold power on that basis. He actually has money, unlike anybody else it appears. I suspect he has videos etc. of other Shareholders in compromising positions with ..................well naughty things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 A few things this week 1- confirmation from MSM that Rangers are about to fail to pay their wage bills end November. 2- They cannot last long enough to make it to the much vaunted share issue 3- Everyone is falling over themselves to LOAN money that needs repaid thus throwing them into massive debt for non-capital expenditure (ie its all to pay Spivs and players they currently have. So your looking at ?16 million to sustain their current level of drivel Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) A few things this week 1- confirmation from MSM that Rangers are about to fail to pay their wage bills end November. 2- They cannot last long enough to make it to the much vaunted share issue 3- Everyone is falling over themselves to LOAN money that needs repaid thus throwing them into massive debt for non-capital expenditure (ie its all to pay Spivs and players they currently have. So your looking at ?16 million to sustain their current level of drivel Nice See when you put it like that lol Edited October 25, 2014 by Feeno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Of course. He's not a charity. However, I don't see Sports Direct in administration and iirc, Newcastle are a rare EPL club that have turned a profit in recent years. Newcastle have achieved nothing, however, and are just plodding along. Rangers fans won't stand for that. They believe they have the right to win trophies, and challenge Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Roddy Forsyth's take on things in the Telegraph also includes a snippet of the Accounts being ready to go to Deloittes and showing an operating loss for the year of just under ?9M down from ?14.4M. That may sound like a good improvement, but the operating loss for the first half of the year was ?3.6M, meaning the loss for the second half of the year was over ?5M (approx ?850k a month). Who knows what they have spent in first 4 months of the current period. http://www.telegraph...loan-offer.html Edited October 25, 2014 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart G Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ashley package to be ratified by Ibrox board over weekend according to Brian Mcglauchlin on twitter, interesting to see how the bears react to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ashley package to be ratified by Ibrox board over weekend according to Brian Mcglauchlin on twitter, interesting to see how the bears react to this. They're about to be done up like a kipper yet again. Liquidation two years down the line with Ashley the owner of all their fixed assets as security against the loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Chris McLaughlin ?@BBCchrismclaug 35m35 minutes ago Following talks into the early hours, all indications from Ibrox are that the Mike Ashley deal will be ratified over the weekend. #Rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ashley package to be ratified by Ibrox board over weekend according to Brian Mcglauchlin on twitter, interesting to see how the bears react to this. If it was a WAR CHEZT, they wouldn't give a flying one. Orcs are like dumb animals. Give them food and they will keep coming back, irrespective of how they are treated. However, it isn't a WAR CHEZT. It will keep the show on the road with McCoist in charge, which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I know King's consortium would have served their supporters and even the club and team much the better, Ashley finessed King who left it all rather too late. If its Ashley , hell mend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He may mend them, but only in a way that benefits Sports Direct and doesn't cost him personally any money, they'll absolutely have to live within what they generate, there won't be any wild spending financed from Ashley's loose change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Assuming the Chris McLaughlin is correct, then it puts the Bears in a difficult position. Those who wanted King will boycott ?1brox, as will those who are anti Easdale and Ashley. When gates fall further towards 25k, I can see Ashley coming out and saying to the bears, "either you turn up and support the team and buy (my) merchandise, or I turn off the life support and the club goes bust". What would be the reaction? If fans don't respond, an insolvency becomes inevitable and new Blue Knights come to the rescue, or do they act like sheep and do their master's bidding. It is a bit of a quandary for the hard of thinking. Edited October 25, 2014 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart G Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If it was a WAR CHEZT, they wouldn't give a flying one. Orcs are like dumb animals. Give them food and they will keep coming back, irrespective of how they are treated. However, it isn't a WAR CHEZT. It will keep the show on the road with McCoist in charge, which is good. You are correct! the SOS and Union of Bears have been very vocal against Ashley, going to look very stupid now if they back him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Assuming the Chris McLaughlin is correct, then it puts the Bears in a difficult position. Those who wanted King will boycott ?1brox, as will those who are anti Easdale and Ashley. When gates fall further towards 25k, I can see Ashley coming out and saying to the bears, "either you turn up and support the team and buy (my) merchandise, or I turn off the life support and the club goes bust". What would be the reaction? If fans don't respond, an insolvency becomes inevitable and new Blue Knights come to the rescue, or do they act like sheep and do their master's bidding. It is a bit of a quandary for the hard of thinking. Tan the windaes of Sports Direct across the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 "Rangers" is simply a sub company of " Rangers International " Limited or PC. As there is no " The Rangers" left , as it is deid, Ashley is welcome to rebrand it all YET AGAIN as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Newcastle have achieved nothing, however, and are just plodding along. Rangers fans won't stand for that. They believe they have the right to win trophies, and challenge Celtic. Rangers fans will stand for whatever Ashley tells them to stand for. Do you think he is going to be intimidated by a bunch of angry weejies? Geordies are just as deluded when it comes to football and he tells them to beat it regularly. Throughout this whole process over the last few years, the constant mistake has been the assumption that the fans have any power whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Anybody any idea who actually owns The Rangers and how all these restrictions that exist in the various footballing authorities would have an impact on the likes of MA and his new found control if this deal goes through. Edited October 25, 2014 by Dannie Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 and keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago I believe Mike Ashley has been threatening all sorts action if his package is not rubber-stamped. And amid all of this chaos, where exactly was Graham Wallace? You would not believe it. Putting 2+2 together.... Possibly a case of MA finding out that things are much worse than originally feared with him wanting to a, essentially take control. B, prevent himself from taking a hit. We've shown that a club run properly can be run without making a loss never mind a profit. The moment they went down to the 3rd div they should have got rid of all high earners and not taken any back unless they would take 1k or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Rangers fans will stand for whatever Ashley tells them to stand for. Do you think he is going to be intimidated by a bunch of angry weejies? Geordies are just as deluded when it comes to football and he tells them to beat it regularly. Throughout this whole process over the last few years, the constant mistake has been the assumption that the fans have any power whatsoever. If Rangers go years without winning anything, or going forward, they won't stand for it. However, you are right in saying that Mike Ashley will not be intimidated by them. They might just have to do 'walking away'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Rangers fans will stand for whatever Ashley tells them to stand for. Do you think he is going to be intimidated by a bunch of angry weejies? Geordies are just as deluded when it comes to football and he tells them to beat it regularly. Throughout this whole process over the last few years, the constant mistake has been the assumption that the fans have any power whatsoever. The only "power" they have held is over the churnalists failing to report what was happening for fear of killing off sales of their shitty rags amongst the hard of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Putting 2+2 together.... Possibly a case of MA finding out that things are much worse than originally feared with him wanting to a, essentially take control. B, prevent himself from taking a hit. We've shown that a club run properly can be run without making a loss never mind a profit. The moment they went down to the 3rd div they should have got rid of all high earners and not taken any back unless they would take 1k or less. I don't think that Ashley was surprised in the least by the state of affairs at the club. However, he is used to getting his own way. The protracted nature of the discussions is more likely to have been opposition to Ashley's loan conditions from the institutional investors. Basically Ashley can be viewed as a Spiv benefiting from onerous contracts. Remember that he had invested in TRFC before the IPO, so he would have been there at the invitation of Green. Edited October 25, 2014 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Tan the windaes of Sports Direct across the UK! At least your average single cell orc will "unnerstawn" that sort of tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 "Rangers" is simply a sub company of " Rangers International " Limited or PC. As there is no " The Rangers" left , as it is deid, Ashley is welcome to rebrand it all YET AGAIN as far as I am concerned. Perhaps "We Arra Peepil FC"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't think that Ashley was surprised in the least by the state of affairs at the club. However, he is used to getting his own way. The protracted nature of the discussions is more likely to have been opposition to Ashley's loan conditions from the institutional investors. Basically Ashley can be viewed as a Spiv benefiting from onerous contracts. Remember that he had invested in TRFC before the IPO, so he would have been there at the invitation of Green. Agreed. All said and done, MA would run it a lot better than the numpties currently at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Agreed. All said and done, MA would run it a lot better than the numpties currently at the helm. A lot of cost cutting to be done before that can be achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 keith jackson ?@tedermeatballs 6m6 minutes ago BREAKING: Ashley's ?2m loan deal approved by RFC board over ?3m offer from Kennedy. Easdale, Ashley and Laxey drove it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 ONLY ?2m loan then a share issue underwritten by Ashley ( BBC Radio Scotland ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiac Rucksack Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He's only lending them 2 million. Thought they needed 16?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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