rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gizmo said: I don't know what your health issues are but I have noticed that you are struggling to elucidate what is going on at times, which is fair as it happens to us all. It can also be a bit of a surprise with some health conditions - you can go to the GP with a sore arm or back and find out it's a pain from a totally different area of the body being hurt, which makes it difficult for us to understand the treatment offered. I'd be very suprised if the health people are trying to harm you but equally if you go in to be at loggerheads with them, you aren't giving yourself or them the opportunity to help you to their best ability. Do you have a social worker, outreach or support of any kind who could accompany you to appointments that would be impartial and help with the communication between you and the health people? That's an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: That's an idea I have my parents but they're not impartial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: What business is it of yours. How would you deal with my situation there is no way out of this they screwed up on me and they are lying to my parents. 2 years of psychiatry, 2 years wasted If you don’t think it’s any business of @Cade, or indeed anyone on here, then why do we get these daily updates on what is a public forum.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Gizmo said: I don't know what your health issues are but I have noticed that you are struggling to elucidate what is going on at times, which is fair as it happens to us all. It can also be a bit of a surprise with some health conditions - you can go to the GP with a sore arm or back and find out it's a pain from a totally different area of the body being hurt, which makes it difficult for us to understand the treatment offered. I'd be very suprised if the health people are trying to harm you but equally if you go in to be at loggerheads with them, you aren't giving yourself or them the opportunity to help you to their best ability. Do you have a social worker, outreach or support of any kind who could accompany you to appointments that would be impartial and help with the communication between you and the health people? Good advice . Deferred pain is an odd thing . Shoulder pain , for example can be related to Something completely unrelated to the shoulder . I’ve had it on and off for nearly two years . They think it’s just my arthritis going rampant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Morgan said: If you don’t think it’s any business of @Cade, or indeed anyone on here, then why do we get these daily updates on what is a public forum.? It's a release for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: It's a release for me Tbf, if you’re going to comment relentlessly on a public forum about your personal problems you have no right to take the huff when someone passes comment. You make it everyone’s business by posting about it over and over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: It's a release for me I that case, I think it is most inappropriate to snap at people who, in the main, have tried to be helpful, caring and have offered some good advice. Bear in mind that these people are not experts in this field, but are doing the best they can to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, CloustonHMFC said: Tbf, if you’re going to comment relentlessly on a public forum about your personal problems you have no right to take the huff when someone passes comment. You make it everyone’s business by posting about it over and over and over again. Correct, Clouston. 👍 That’s what I was trying to say, several minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Morgan said: I that case, I think it is most inappropriate to snap at people who, in the main, have tried to be helpful, caring and have offered some good advice. Bear in mind that these people are not experts in this field, but are doing the best they can to help. Ok thanks to Cade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Think I'll go back to the flat. Horrible here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Gizmo said: I don't know what your health issues are but I have noticed that you are struggling to elucidate what is going on at times, which is fair as it happens to us all. It can also be a bit of a surprise with some health conditions - you can go to the GP with a sore arm or back and find out it's a pain from a totally different area of the body being hurt, which makes it difficult for us to understand the treatment offered. I'd be very suprised if the health people are trying to harm you but equally if you go in to be at loggerheads with them, you aren't giving yourself or them the opportunity to help you to their best ability. Do you have a social worker, outreach or support of any kind who could accompany you to appointments that would be impartial and help with the communication between you and the health people? 2 hours ago, rudi must stay said: That's an idea Rudi mate, several months ago I sent you a PM telling you about an advocacy service which might be useful to you. They would do exactly what Gizmo suggests above. You didn't respond to the PM, but if you feel you would now like to look into this and no longer have the info I supplied please give us a shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Meathook said: Rudi mate, several months ago I sent you a PM telling you about an advocacy service which might be useful to you. They would do exactly what Gizmo suggests above. You didn't respond to the PM, but if you feel you would now like to look into this and no longer have the info I supplied please give us a shout. Sounds good yes can you please send another pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, rudi must stay said: Sounds good yes can you please send another pm PM sent. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I think I need someone representing me as this could turn really ugly. Thanks again everyone I believe you're on my side which is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, rudi must stay said: I think I need someone representing me as this could turn really ugly. Thanks again everyone I believe you're on my side which is great We are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: We are. It helps me to question some of the stuff I think. Today I am thinking maybe I'm not as I'll as I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: It helps me to question some of the stuff I think. Today I am thinking maybe I'm not as I'll as I thought We’ll if it helps you to think things though via this board what’s the problem , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: We’ll if it helps you to think things though via this board what’s the problem , It gives me alot of confidence that I never had before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, rudi must stay said: It gives me alot of confidence that I never had before That’s great pal 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: That’s great pal 👍👍 You my friend are a great guy. You are always here with a positive word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, rudi must stay said: You my friend are a great guy. You are always here with a positive word Well I’m a firm believer in positive thinking . It really does help 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well I’m a firm believer in positive thinking . It really does help 👍👍 It's nice to be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, rudi must stay said: It's nice to be nice Yep 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 21 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Good advice . Deferred pain is an odd thing . Shoulder pain , for example can be related to Something completely unrelated to the shoulder . I’ve had it on and off for nearly two years . They think it’s just my arthritis going rampant Its referred pain, James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Lone Striker said: Its referred pain, James Aye I have communication issues at times . Knew something wasn’t quite right ! 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Aye I have communication issues at times . Knew something wasn’t quite right ! 😎 😃 It would be great if all pain was deferred .... ideally until after we've died !! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Lone Striker said: 😃 It would be great if all pain was deferred .... ideally until after we've died !! 😉 I had a laugh after I wrote my last comment thinking wouldn’t it be great ti defer pain lol ! As you say until after death 👍😎😎😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 How about bone pain because you've had so many x-rays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: How about bone pain because you've had so many x-rays Rudi - you may well have a lot of bone pain, but it's highly unlikely that x-rays have caused it. Why do you think that you may not have dyspraxia after saying a few pages ago that you did have it ? The way you feel could be down to quite a few possible conditions e.g. vitamin deficiencies, or overactive thyroid or parathyroid glands, or an auto-immune situation. But you'll need to man-up a bit and agree to see a GP to get a referral to have proper tests done to find out (blood & urine sample tests can reveal a heck of a lot to trained medics). Its good to hear you consider the possibility that you're not as ill as you thought - taking a more positive and realistic outlook (alongside a determination not to let it define who you are) is a very good first step. The posters on here have shown great patience in conversing with you, in the hope that you'll seek proper medical attention without reverting to what seems an unlikely assumption that the medical profession is to blame for all your problems. The Advocacy service which @Meathook mentioned sounds VERY worthwhile - I hope you'll contact them and seek their assistance to insist that your GP organises a fresh set of tests/referrals. The advocacy person will be able to interpret for you what the results & medical consultants say. I wish you well.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Rudi - you may well have a lot of bone pain, but it's highly unlikely that x-rays have caused it. Why do you think that you may not have dyspraxia after saying a few pages ago that you did have it ? The way you feel could be down to quite a few possible conditions e.g. vitamin deficiencies, or overactive thyroid or parathyroid glands, or an auto-immune situation. But you'll need to man-up a bit and agree to see a GP to get a referral to have proper tests done to find out (blood & urine sample tests can reveal a heck of a lot to trained medics). Its good to hear you consider the possibility that you're not as ill as you thought - taking a more positive and realistic outlook (alongside a determination not to let it define who you are) is a very good first step. The posters on here have shown great patience in conversing with you, in the hope that you'll seek proper medical attention without reverting to what seems an unlikely assumption that the medical profession is to blame for all your problems. The Advocacy service which @Meathook mentioned sounds VERY worthwhile - I hope you'll contact them and seek their assistance to insist that your GP organises a fresh set of tests/referrals. The advocacy person will be able to interpret for you what the results & medical consultants say. I wish you well.👍 I believe I have arthritis could well be down to a lot of sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I'm not prepared for more tests even if x-ray did nothing I don't want to go through more. They cause me nightmares the x-rays and the whole thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I'm not allowing a creepy little doctor anywhere near me. I dont trust them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: I'm not allowing a creepy little doctor anywhere near me. I dont trust them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Morgan said: Sorry again I was annoyed. I think my arthritis comment is correct. Seeing the psychiatrist in a week get all this sorted maybe they can give me injections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Sorry again I was annoyed. I think my arthritis comment is correct. Seeing the psychiatrist in a week get all this sorted maybe they can give me injections Eh ? You'll need to let a creepy little doctor diagnose you first, before any one them can determine how to treat your arthritis - if indeed it really is arthritis. Have you tried applying heat to your joints (knees, ankles, shoulder, hands etc) ? Buy some wheat bags - some are shaped to go around your neck/shoulders area or velcro fasten around your knee or wrist. You heat them up in a microwave (per instructions) - don't "over heat" or they'll scald you - then place at the relevant area. That should give a bit of relief for a wee while. Re-heat in the microwave and repeat, if you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Eh ? You'll need to let a creepy little doctor diagnose you first, before any one them can determine how to treat your arthritis - if indeed it really is arthritis. Have you tried applying heat to your joints (knees, ankles, shoulder, hands etc) ? Buy some wheat bags - some are shaped to go around your neck/shoulders area or velcro fasten around your knee or wrist. You heat them up in a microwave (per instructions) - don't "over heat" or they'll scald you - then place at the relevant area. That should give a bit of relief for a wee while. Re-heat in the microwave and repeat, if you need to. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, rudi must stay said: I believe I have arthritis could well be down to a lot of sport I’ve got psoaritic arthritis . Had it for over 22 years now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, rudi must stay said: I do play alot of tennis. Wearing on the joints Yes impact sports like tennis or football can be bad for joints but it’s still important to do some exercise . I do light stuff at the gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes impact sports like tennis or football can be bad for joints but it’s still important to do some exercise . I do light stuff at the gym Ok never exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Ok never exercise It’s good to try and stretch etc . Just very light stuff . Nothing too strenuous really . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: It’s good to try and stretch etc . Just very light stuff . Nothing too strenuous really . Ok but I shouldnt stretch myself eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Ok but I shouldnt stretch myself eh Well not if you feel pain , exercise should be pain free . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 7 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well not if you feel pain , exercise should be pain free . Sorry was a pun. I think I'm going to make things tough for the doctors x-rays weaken you x-rays don't I'm not here to be a wee bunny rabbit for doctors till the end of my days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Rudi, with the greatest of respect you are all over the place. One minute you're fine and listening to advice, the next you're back to throwing accusations all over the place. That isn't normal behaviour. I'm sorry, but it isn't. There could be an explanation that a lot of what you think is wrong with you, isn't physically there. Rather you've just conditioned yourself to think that it is. Can you please get to a doctor, in fact, find a brand new one you've never seen before, tell him all your physical and mental symptoms and see what comes from it. A new one has no reason to lie to you so you can maybe trust them. He/she will not make you do x-rays or other tests against your will. In spite of what you believe, health professionals will not actively do something to harm you.* * yes, there are some horrible ones out there, but they are by FAR the exception and not the rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I'm going to see the psychiatrist in a few weeks I will discuss things with him get this all sorted once and for all, maybe without my parents there as they believe it's all in my head. I've reconnected with friends and that has given me purpose in my life, today I felt different for the first time in years. Things are alright financially more than alright infact so I really want to feel good again, bought some weights for the room as well. No it's not normal but I'm a heart on my sleeve sort of person, very emotional and this has deeply screwed me up as it would anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I realise now the doctor was saying nonsense when he told me about the x-rays. Pretty poor from the doctor and pretty poor doctoring but that's what I recieved. This is why I don't want to visit a doctor, everything is so dramatic life or death. Whatever gets me gets me I have my dyspraxia anyway it makes me different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 hours ago, rudi must stay said: I realise now the doctor was saying nonsense when he told me about the x-rays. Pretty poor from the doctor and pretty poor doctoring but that's what I recieved. This is why I don't want to visit a doctor, everything is so dramatic life or death. Whatever gets me gets me I have my dyspraxia anyway it makes me different Brilliant, glad you've got to the bottom of the x-ray stuff. Maybe if you imagine something else you and Judy can discuss it by private message. It would be like a late night phone in, Judy can be Father Andy Monaghan. My concern is that other posters look at how this thread has been lately and won't engage with it and it's been far too good a thread for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, graygo said: Brilliant, glad you've got to the bottom of the x-ray stuff. Maybe if you imagine something else you and Judy can discuss it by private message. It would be like a late night phone in, Judy can be Father Andy Monaghan. My concern is that other posters look at how this thread has been lately and won't engage with it and it's been far too good a thread for that to happen. It's a cracking thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Brother not good for my schizophrenia. Absolute lunatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 hours ago, graygo said: Brilliant, glad you've got to the bottom of the x-ray stuff. Maybe if you imagine something else you and Judy can discuss it by private message. It would be like a late night phone in, Judy can be Father Andy Monaghan. My concern is that other posters look at how this thread has been lately and won't engage with it and it's been far too good a thread for that to happen. I think that, unfortunately, this is exactly what is going to happen. 4 hours ago, rudi must stay said: It's a cracking thread It is/was. It has been somewhat hijacked of late though and, consequently, has been moved away from its original thread title intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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