vegas-voss Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Let's give the guy a little time it's obvious he wants the team to play decent football.He's not even been here a week and can't be expected to change things that quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 im not moaning, this season imo is a write off already ill take a cup tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Does anyone really think we will be amazing at any point during his tenure? The problem is our squad, in my opinion. The fact that Black is now a fixture in the side shows how weak we are in certain areas. Injuries are obviously not helping right now, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser74 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 yeah we need to have patience but its hard when we havent won an SPL game in around 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMMY Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Maurinho couldnae make that squad play decent football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It really is piss poor though, with the cash out players get paid they should be ashamed o themselves... Not looking forward to spurs quite as much... Shoeing guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo needs at least two his signings of his own before I'll start to judge him. JJ 'Grafters' aren't exactly football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Mrowiec,Black,Hammil taht was our CM three today,god help us if we are expecting incisive play and creativity from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo Sergio will learn fast that you can only piss with the ****** you are given,you cant polish a jobby etc etc. New talent is needed or we wont finish anywhere near the old firm. We will struggle to get into the top half in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It really is piss poor though, with the cash out players get paid they should be ashamed o themselves... Not looking forward to spurs quite as much... Shoeing guaranteed I dont think the result today either way would make us challenge spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1998 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 If the Old Squirm win their outstanding games we are 8 points behind after 3 games. Wonder how many players Vlad thinks we still need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I dont think the result today either way would make us challenge spurs. Neither do I mate but have been caught in a wave of optimism by looking back at previous euro ties... Back to reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivaObua Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Had a bad feeling about todays game but hoped the players having a new manager to impress would have got us at least a point but guess the sending off ruined the game for us! Next week is massive for us, Aberdeen looked decent today and will be hard to break down but hopefully another week with the squad and he should see who can play his way and get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gods a Jambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Todays result could be a blessing in disguise, we may just get a couple of new players in after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy_Jambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Nobody thought we would be brilliant over night but ian black getting sent off is of no surprise. Him and Zaliukas need to be moved on in my opinion. Both can look like good spl players on they're day (nothing more) but more often they show that they're a couple of ...kin idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It's the players that are either shyte or consistently under performing, not the manager. I felt by the sounds of things that he set things out well during the game. However, far too many in the side are just shit. Mediocre at best. Hopefully we get some in this month and then again in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massie1874 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo Sergio will learn fast that you can only piss with the ****** you are given,you cant polish a jobby etc etc. New talent is needed or we wont finish anywhere near the old firm. We will struggle to get into the top half in fact. This ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Unless vlad is prepared to spend at least 5 million he can forget any title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What an Optimistic lot !!! Who can we blame ? I blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad on the tyne Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Sergio is clearly trying to make the average players we have do things that they won't be comfortable with at this level ie retaining possession, passing and using space. IMO, Sergio will not achieve what he wants to deliver and what vlad expects with the players he currently has. Finishing 3rd and a cup run is the realistic target with the current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 He hardly knows the players and what they like in all things, as the clich? goes you learn a lot more in defeats then in victories and I am certain Paulo will learn a lot about what some players a capable with after today. I do think come next Saturday you will start to see a glimpse of which players he feels will work with his passing game as he has a whole week of training to see more of them. He can also concentrate more on passing drills, both static and active. The one major criticism I have with Vlads decision to sack JJ is timing, it would have been better sack him during pre-season as the players are now having to learn a completely new style of play while playing games that matter. We do need 1 or 2 signings but I am style positive over Paulo Sergio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What an Optimistic lot !!! Who can we blame ? I blame you. I blame Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBBIECEE1874 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Let's give the guy a little time it's obvious he wants the team to play decent football.He's not even been here a week and can't be expected to change things that quick. top post i agree can we still sign players i take it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartyhub Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I like the kind of football Sergio is trying to play but this isnt going to happen overnight. I for one hope he is given the time and support to get the job done. We arn't going to do anything in this league playing Scottish football but maybe going down the continental route we could have more success. The sad thing is though he probably wont be given the time or players to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Mrowiec,Black,Hammil taht was our CM three today,god help us if we are expecting incisive play and creativity from there Agree entirely, but it didn't help Temps and Driver were both woeful. I imagine the idea was for the 3 you mentioned to win the ball and get it wide. However, all round the team there is a distinct lack of quality. To make matters worse, we have been outplayed by motherwell and dundee utd who have half our budget!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Agree entirely, but it didn't help Temps and Driver were both woeful. I imagine the idea was for the 3 you mentioned to win the ball and get it wide. However, all round the team there is a distinct lack of quality. To make matters worse, we have been outplayed by motherwell and dundee utd who have half our budget!! Half our budget but a coherent strategy! It will take at least another couple of transfer windows for Sergio to assemble the squad he wants (I'm asusming the intention is for him to actually do that. Another season of transition awaits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wright1989 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Agree entirely, but it didn't help Temps and Driver were both woeful. I imagine the idea was for the 3 you mentioned to win the ball and get it wide. However, all round the team there is a distinct lack of quality. To make matters worse, we have been outplayed by motherwell and dundee utd who have half our budget!! Maybe Tauol will give us a lift when he comes back. How long is he out for anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Half our budget but a coherent strategy! It will take at least another couple of transfer windows for Sergio to assemble the squad he wants (I'm asusming the intention is for him to actually do that. Another season of transition awaits... I don't think that was what Vlad had in mind............... It is plain to see we lack quality, if we do not strengthen soon it wont be transition - it will be bottom six.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Maybe Tauol will give us a lift when he comes back. How long is he out for anyway? I dont know, but knowing our policy of signing invalids - who knows? ps He aint going to help imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I don't think that was what Vlad had in mind............... It is plain to see we lack quality, if we do not strengthen soon it wont be transition - it will be bottom six.......... To be honest, our form in 2011 suggests bottom six more likely than top six. We need to be careful to avoid getting mired in the battle at the very bottom early doors. We've all seen that happen before, especially when playing in Europe after a fairly successful season the year before. Big game next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Winning the title was a demand from Vlad not us supporters so no, I wasn't expecting us to change overnight. As far as i'm concerned it may take until the next transfer window for Paulo to get the lads firing on all cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I like the kind of football Sergio is trying to play but this isnt going to happen overnight. I for one hope he is given the time and support to get the job done. We arn't going to do anything in this league playing Scottish football but maybe going down the continental route we could have more success. The sad thing is though he probably wont be given the time or players to try. When we had our good spell last season it revolved around a high tempo pressing game, and attacked at pace. We probably made twice as many passes as Motherwell today, but it got us nowhere. Passing it sideways is easy, passing it forward to players making themselves available seems beyond this bunch of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 im not moaning, this season imo is a write off already ill take a cup tho well at least we're not being overly dramatic three games in - that would be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praha06 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is why Paolo Sergio shoudlve been brought in at end of last season not at this stage. We have denied the guy the chance of a full pre season with his new players. In effect we are now going through the pre season motion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 JJ built a squad of SPL experienced players. They have limited ability but know how to play in the SPL. They do not however have the ability or skills to play the PS way. Its like Le Guen with the stickys. He didn't become a bad manager overnight. The players he inherited did not have the capabilities of playing the way he wanted. I think the concern I have goes back to who exactly is picking the team. Driver clearly isn't fit yet hes played Thursday the Sunday. Its almost more games than hes played together in 18 months. I have the feeling its going to be a long hard season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 JJ built a squad of SPL experienced players. They have limited ability but know how to play in the SPL. They do not however have the ability or skills to play the PS way. Its like Le Guen with the stickys. He didn't become a bad manager overnight. The players he inherited did not have the capabilities of playing the way he wanted. I think the concern I have goes back to who exactly is picking the team. Driver clearly isn't fit yet hes played Thursday the Sunday. Its almost more games than hes played together in 18 months. I have the feeling its going to be a long hard season. I don't think there's any doubt who is responsible for Driver starting the last two games surely? Plain to see the lad's nowhere near ready for competitive football (Thursday's fine goal notswithstanding). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I like the kind of football Sergio is trying to play but this isn't going to happen overnight. I for one hope he is given the time and support to get the job done. We arn't going to do anything in this league playing Scottish football but maybe going down the continental route we could have more success. The sad thing is though he probably wont be given the time or players to try. Reasonably glad some do. Although I am not overly surprised by the result if I am honest it was the manner of defeat which disappointed me more. That was the worst we have played since we managed to get Csaba Laszlo out the front door. It was a borefest from start to finish. I'm afraid if you want success in the SPL little triangular passes to nowhere ain't going to achieve it. You play to your strengths, you don't try and change everything and try and play a style without the players to play that style. If we continue to play as we did today the fans will start leaving in droves and we will struggle all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Reasonably glad some do. Although I am not overly surprised by the result if I am honest it was the manner of defeat which disappointed me more. That was the worst we have played since we managed to get Csaba Laszlo out the front door. It was a borefest from start to finish. I'm afraid if you want success in the SPL little triangular passes to nowhere ain't going to achieve it. You play to your strengths, you don't try and change everything and try and play a style without the players to play that style. If we continue to play as we did today the fans will start leaving in droves and we will struggle all season. Well said PJ1, passing for passing's sake ain't going to fool anyone. I thought as much against Paksi - there has to be a final product. if passing sideways counts - we would have won the game against Motherwell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo's attempt to get Hearts playing football is severely hindered by bald, middle aged men bursting into fits of rage anytime there is more than two consecutive sideways passes. I wish these folk would just stop coming to the football, they offer nothing in the way of support and the just annoy the tits off of reasonable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD_JAMBO Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 ffs some drama queens on the thread how is this season gonna be a long hard 1 we are 3 games in now lets look at the facts a point a ibrox on the 1st day shulda won but still a good result good result against paksi got a goal away from home then lose to dundee united then a good result against paksi then a defeat at motherwell now history shows us that whenever we play in europe we get beat in the next game or dont play well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo's attempt to get Hearts playing football is severely hindered by bald, middle aged men bursting into fits of rage anytime there is more than two consecutive sideways passes. I wish these folk would just stop coming to the football, they offer nothing in the way of support and the just annoy the tits off of reasonable people. Unlike your pearls of wisdom............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo's attempt to get Hearts playing football is severely hindered by bald, middle aged men bursting into fits of rage anytime there is more than two consecutive sideways passes. I wish these folk would just stop coming to the football, they offer nothing in the way of support and the just annoy the tits off of reasonable people. I was very happy to see us play a good passing game against Dundee United. It's definately something we have lacked in the last couple of seasons. We were always good at getting the ball but we would give it straight back. One game that springs to mind is against Celtic at the end of last season, the passing accuracy reading would be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD_JAMBO Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Paulo's attempt to get Hearts playing football is severely hindered by bald, middle aged men bursting into fits of rage anytime there is more than two consecutive sideways passes. I wish these folk would just stop coming to the football, they offer nothing in the way of support and the just annoy the tits off of reasonable people. lol spot on its just ridiculous its 2 passes sideways its not 25 people need to understand that these things take time and some people seem to be expecting us to play like barcelona when we went on that run some people still moaned a minority of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rom?n Riquelme Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Unlike your pearls of wisdom............... I know mate, being an all round football genius is a lot for one man to handle though. I need some other folk to shoulder the burden of knowledge with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Spackler Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What an Optimistic lot !!! Who can we blame ? I blame you. Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Agree entirely, but it didn't help Temps and Driver were both woeful. I imagine the idea was for the 3 you mentioned to win the ball and get it wide. However, all round the team there is a distinct lack of quality. To make matters worse, we have been outplayed by motherwell and dundee utd who have half our budget!! in all seriousness i expect Motherwell to be our main challengers for 3rd this term,United will flounder as Housten loses more and more of the team that Levein built and replaces then with Rank like...well Rankin Rangers away,United following a European game and Motherwell away following a european game was always going to be a tough opening,the only bright side is taht PS now has a week to work intensely with the players,trying to drill formations and positional awareness into them i fully expect that he has a list of players he wishes to sign if he deems what we have not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 in all seriousness i expect Motherwell to be our main challengers for 3rd this term,United will flounder as Housten loses more and more of the team that Levein built and replaces then with Rank like...well Rankin Rangers away,United following a European game and Motherwell away following a european game was always going to be a tough opening,the only bright side is taht PS now has a week to work intensely with the players,trying to drill formations and positional awareness into them i fully expect that he has a list of players he wishes to sign if he deems what we have not good enough I love the arrogance, OUR main challengers for 3rd? United look the more likely to last the pace at the top so far than we do. The bottom line is that we have to start yet again rebuilding with a new manager and that is actually the last thing we needed for a sustained assault on the top of the league. We need a few seasons of stability and a manager who knows how to get the best out of players with limited ability as many of ours seem to be - hopefully PS is a man who can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 in all seriousness i expect Motherwell to be our main challengers for 3rd this term,United will flounder as Housten loses more and more of the team that Levein built and replaces then with Rank like...well Rankin Rangers away,United following a European game and Motherwell away following a european game was always going to be a tough opening,the only bright side is taht PS now has a week to work intensely with the players,trying to drill formations and positional awareness into them i fully expect that he has a list of players he wishes to sign if he deems what we have not good enough If we don't strengthen then 3rd bottom looms - nothing else.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I love the arrogance, OUR main challengers for 3rd? United look the more likely to last the pace at the top so far than we do. The bottom line is that we have to start yet again rebuilding with a new manager and that is actually the last thing we needed for a sustained assault on the top of the league. We need a few seasons of stability and a manager who knows how to get the best out of players with limited ability as many of ours seem to be - hopefully PS is a man who can do that. i hate the pessimism in this place,3 games into the season and Dundee United,who are way short of the quality and depth they had last season are streets ahead of us. Houston is a decent coach but he is far from a manager of any quality and once the last of Leviens team moves on they will find themselves falling into mediocrity. we have a better squad than we did last season and i daresay we will strengthen,Motherwell look like they have manager that has found a fi=ormula but with very little depth will also struggleonce injuries kick in. i think once PS gets his ideas across there is no team that can compete for us with 3rd the problem is that for most,3rd is not enough If we don't strengthen then 3rd bottom looms - nothing else.............. so Gowz,what are you getting for christmas? "lucky if i get anything other than a knitted cardigan from my gran at this rate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 i hate the pessimism in this place,3 games into the season and Dundee United,who are way short of the quality and depth they had last season are streets ahead of us. Houston is a decent coach but he is far from a manager of any quality and once the last of Leviens team moves on they will find themselves falling into mediocrity. we have a better squad than we did last season and i daresay we will strengthen,Motherwell look like they have manager that has found a fi=ormula but with very little depth will also struggleonce injuries kick in. i think once PS gets his ideas across there is no team that can compete for us with 3rd the problem is that for most,3rd is not enough so Gowz,what are you getting for christmas? "lucky if i get anything other than a knitted cardigan from my gran at this rate" Bit of a mixed bag in there eh Bozi? or should it be Dozy? Congratulations on being able to type despite your use of drugs................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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