Creepy Lurker Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Embarrassing. Terrible move on the club's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The statement was... Craig Thomson will leave Heart of Midlothian Football Club imminently. The club has considered all implications surrounding the issue and has decided to find a solution for the player to leave the club over the forthcoming days. Please don't hit me with the "well, he has left" chat because that sort of argument could be applied to him leaving the club for the day, not to return until Monday. "..to leave the club.." was our statement, going on loan to Kaunas means that at some point he will have to come back. Craig Thomson has not left Hearts, he is a Hearts player but on loan at Kaunas, just as Ridgers, Ogleby & Park are Hearts players on loan at East Fife. What should have been a straightforward decision from the club has been bungled at each and every stage. BH you seem like a good guy and are a good contributor to this forum. But if you are getting seriously wound up by this then you need to look at your priorities in life. Thomson has been transferred to another country thousands of miles away, given the club legally put themselves in a position where they couldn't sack him, what more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I thought this was the plan when the announcement was that he would leave?? I'm not bothered by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalMac Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It will be interesting to see how a Scottish player gets on abroad without his significant other dragging them back because she misses her mother He'll be Ok as long as he's be able to keep in touch with his family/friends etc. online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 This announcement has goes in the meh section for me. Dont really care, he is no longer playing for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 BH you seem like a good guy and are a good contributor to this forum. But if you are getting seriously wound up by this then you need to look at your priorities in life. Thomson has been transferred to another country thousands of miles away, given the club legally put themselves in a position where they couldn't sack him, what more do you want? If the club did legally put themselves in such a position (and I believe that you may be right) then that's something worth being angry about in itself, but I think that the real worry here is the suspicion that many (myself included) feel that this is a poorly hidden attempt at keeping Thomson on with the intention of bringing him back as a Hearts player when this has all blown over. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 This announcement has goes in the meh section for me. Dont really care, he is no longer playing for Hearts. What happens when his loan runs out and he becomes a Hearts player again ? This decision is a fecking disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 BH you seem like a good guy and are a good contributor to this forum. But if you are getting seriously wound up by this then you need to look at your priorities in life. Thomson has been transferred to another country thousands of miles away, given the club legally put themselves in a position where they couldn't sack him, what more do you want? It depends what you mean by "seriously wound up". I am not shaking with rage, nor am I going to protest, nor am I going to move to a town in Surrey beginning with G. However, much like everything Hearts orientated, I have an opinion and my opinion on this situation is that Hearts have handled this appallingly from day one. They have continually failed to do the right thing and as we sit here, they still haven't done the right thing. He had to go, full stop. All this faffing about is merely hoping it will blow over and he can play for Hearts again. Something that I would get quite upset about and don't know how I'd react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 This announcement has goes in the meh section for me. Dont really care, he is no longer playing for Hearts. Do Ogleby, Ridgers, Park, Balatoni, R.McGowan no longer play for Hearts either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Do Ogleby, Ridgers, Park, Balatoni, R.McGowan no longer play for Hearts either? I take it you meant D.McGowan and R.McGowan, but Craig will never play for Hearts again, some of the ones you listed will. That is my view and no one is going to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca2 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Well done Vlad. Would have been easy just to cut the kid loose. This way he gets a chance to grow up and sort himself out - hope he takes the chance given and does just that. Grow up!!! You havin a laugh. i seriously hope so.......and it's not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Sooner Vlad sells up the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 What happens when his loan runs out and he becomes a Hearts player again ? This decision is a fecking disgrace. It's on the record that he'll never play for HMFC again. If that looks like happening then I'll seethe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca2 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If the club did legally put themselves in such a position (and I believe that you may be right) then that's something worth being angry about in itself, but I think that the real worry here is the suspicion that many (myself included) feel that this is a poorly hidden attempt at keeping Thomson on with the intention of bringing him back as a Hearts player when this has all blown over. Time will tell. This will not blow over. Don't think the Goodwillie thing will either as someone somewhere thinks he's guilty judging by the papers this morning. Craig Thomson pled guilty. End of...Sackable offence. No going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 What happens when his loan runs out and he becomes a Hearts player again ? This decision is a fecking disgrace. When his loan finishes in November he'll have no option but to return to Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 When his loan finishes in November he'll have no option but to return to Hearts. And then he'll (officially) become a Hearts player again even though he's still a Hearts player now. Not fecking good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 This will not blow over. Don't think the Goodwillie thing will either as someone somewhere thinks he's guilty judging by the papers this morning. Craig Thomson pled guilty. End of...Sackable offence. No going back. I wasn't saying that I think that it'll blow over; I don't think either that it will or that it should. I'm not convinced that Romanov feels the same way, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If he ever plays for Hearts again, seethe then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAberdeen Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It seems Vlad might give him another chance at Hearts, either later this season when his loan period ends or next season. While being found guilty means Hearts could have terminated his contract without much trouble, I believe he deserves second chance, as everyone makes mistake especially at younger age. But not sure if sponsors and fans will be happy about, as already seen on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Alternatively, Vlad sells him to a Russian team, he makes his profit and Thomson gets a chance to resurrect his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartyfaeclery Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 why does it reflect badly on HMFC? Thanks because the owner of HMFC thinks its ok to employ sex offenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It seems Vlad might give him another chance at Hearts, either later this season when his loan period ends or next season. While being found guilty means Hearts could have terminated his contract without much trouble, I believe he deserves second chance, as everyone makes mistake especially at younger age. But not sure if sponsors and fans will be happy about, as already seen on this board. No shit Sherlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 because the owner of HMFC thinks its ok to employ sex offenders this is new information to you? Personally, i dont care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Alternatively, Vlad sells him to a Russian team, he makes his profit and Thomson gets a chance to resurrect his career. I'll crack the jokes Geoff. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartyfaeclery Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 this is new information to you? Personally, i dont care anymore. unfortunatly its not new information,it does reflect bad on hearts and you,because you should care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Easily summer up. Farcical, yet unsurprising. Which is sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Out of sight out of mind. I may care if he comes back to Tynie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Out of sight out of mind. I may care if he comes back to Tynie This. It is entirely possible that the club don't want to shell out a lump sum to pay off his contract so would rather just pay him monthly and ship him off there until his contract ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Total farce. All these guys on the forum who arent bothered by it ask yourselve this. What if he played for Hibs what would be your reaction then??? Returned my season ticket when they refused to sack him and will not return till he is completely away from the club. No ties, no connections totally free from the club. Went home and away so a wee bit gutted but im taking my moral stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Total farce. All these guys on the forum who arent bothered by it ask yourselve this. What if he played for Hibs what would be your reaction then??? Returned my season ticket when they refused to sack him and will not return till he is completely away from the club. No ties, no connections totally free from the club. Went home and away so a wee bit gutted but im taking my moral stance. I'm sure the club will fight on without your support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Im sure they will but I will not give my money to a club who support sex offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Im sure they will but I will not give my money to a club who support sex offenders. So what is the difference between having to pay up his contract in a lump sum and possibly effecting our already small budget for new players, signing on fees etc or sending him out the country while his contract runs down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 So what is the difference between having to pay up his contract in a lump sum and possibly effecting our already small budget for new players, signing on fees etc or sending him out the country while his contract runs down? Thats the same but he should have been sacked. Your not telling me the club can not sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david mcgee Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Total farce. All these guys on the forum who arent bothered by it ask yourselve this. What if he played for Hibs what would be your reaction then??? Returned my season ticket when they refused to sack him and will not return till he is completely away from the club. No ties, no connections totally free from the club. Went home and away so a wee bit gutted but im taking my moral stance. Wonderful morale stance, but if you took the same stance on every paedo and nut job in this totally corrupt imperfect World we live in you would probably never buy a paper, eat out, have a bank account, vote, trust the police................................................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Wonderful morale stance, but if you took the same stance on every paedo and nut job in this totally corrupt imperfect World we live in you would probably never buy a paper, eat out, have a bank account, vote, trust the police................................................................................... Yes but if a company find out 1 of there employees breaks the law and especially is a sex offender im sure they would sack them. Ask yourselve this what would you have done if i was your 12 year old daughter?? Would you still give money to the club??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thats the same but he should have been sacked. Your not telling me the club can not sack him. That's pretty much what I am telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I refuse to believe they cant sack him. He was convicted of a sex offence while in employment there for it must constitute gross misconduct?? Ps You still never answered my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thats the same but he should have been sacked. Your not telling me the club can not sack him. After that initial statement, they probably blew the opportunity of sacking him. He would have had grounds for constructive dismissal had he subsequently been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 unfortunatly its not new information,it does reflect bad on hearts and you,because you should care it doesn't reflect on me at all actually, thanks. I assume none of the clothes you wear are made by companies that use sweatshops. or eat nestle sweets. or have any involvement with companies who employ any of the thousands of people on the sex offenders register because, of course, that would make you and everyone else in your position a feeble minded, myopic self righteous hypocrite. in short please don't tell me how I ought to feel, until you can justify your own emotions - or atleast form a coherent sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Dear Banderson and whoever's reading from the Daily Record. Please can you fix it for Tuaras' name to appear at the top of the article you're writing just now? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david mcgee Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yes but if a company find out 1 of there employees breaks the law and especially is a sex offender im sure they would sack them. Ask yourselve this what would you have done if i was your 12 year old daughter?? Would you still give money to the club??? In the crazy society we now live in, it would not surprise me if the sex offender could sue the employer for unfair dismissal. I think he should be sacked, all i am saying is the older i get the more i realise how corrupt societies, governments, politicians and law enforcement agencies are. I would not let this incident put you of supporting your club. It is unsavory and been badly handled but merely reflects todays society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm glad he doesn't play for hearts anymore but he is still employed and paid within the pyramid of pish so not good enough IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 In the crazy society we now live in, it would not surprise me if the sex offender could sue the employer for unfair dismissal. I think he should be sacked, all i am saying is the older i get the more i realise how corrupt societies, governments, politicians and law enforcement agencies are. I would not let this incident put you of supporting your club. It is unsavory and been badly handled but merely reflects todays society. I still want Hearts to win every game. I will miss going to the games especially fester road. I would love to see Medhi play for the JT's as I really like him. But I will not give my cash to my club who support a sex offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm glad he doesn't play for hearts anymore but he is still employed and paid within the pyramid of pish so not good enough IMO. Are Kaunus an amatuer team now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He Who Cannot Be Named Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Oh FFS here we go again. This is the one topic that really separates the roasters from the rest of us. CT wont ever play for Hearts again, I don't see how anyone can actually think that considering the level of seethe it would obviously generate. Contrary to popular belief CT is NOT a paedophile and I wish the kid good luck in getting his career back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Total farce. All these guys on the forum who arent bothered by it ask yourselve this. What if he played for Hibs what would be your reaction then??? Yeah, i'd be more bothered if he played for Hibs than Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1998 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I still want Hearts to win every game. I will miss going to the games especially fester road. I would love to see Medhi play for the JT's as I really like him. But I will not give my cash to my club who support a sex offender. Fair do's- each to their own, real shame and all that- see ya. Nothing will stop me watching my team especially some little no-mark forced to play in other countries now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I've said it on previous threads, anyone who wants to hit hearts in the pocket is a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I've said it on previous threads, anyone who wants to hit hearts in the pocket is a dick. Oh hardman alert. So what if it had been your daughter, would you still say the same?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Oh hardman alert. So what if it had been your daughter, would you still say the same?? Was it your daughter? If not STFU please, no one wants to hear your garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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