Johanes de Silentio Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Thought he had another year on his contract. Robinson is only 18! He has a huge future in the game if you'd bother takinG any notice of the under 19's you'd realise that. Would Hearts settle for any less? Can I remind you that, when we sold a very promising youngster to Man Utd a few years ago, the fee was quoted as being around ?50,000. I used to make these kinds of lists when I was in my early teens, before I discovered girls - my valuations were wildly over-optimistic too. And we had some shite in our team in them days, let me tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAberdeen Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Can't see anyone parting money for our players apart from Zaliukas, Kello, Templeton, Wallace and Driver. And I'd say those senior players will be in 1-2m blanket, while Temp will be 500k under the current climate. Never buy 'potential' idea. I thought Gary Wales had a potential to be signed for Barca one day before Numan cracked his leg, so you know what. Big O might have potential to become world cup winner then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJOR STEVE Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Not even on on football manager someone would come in for that kind of money! I did sell McGowan for 8 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I'd go with, Kello - 1m Zal - 750k Wallace - 2m Driver - 2m Kyle - 500k Temps - 1.75m C. Thomson - 200k Eggert - 300k The rest have a value of less than 100k or are unproven young players who have no real sell on value yet. Some of the OPs valuations are just absurd. I would go with that other than slightly more for Eggy (he is an established international and a very useful all roudner - probably on some clubs' radar even though he is having a poor spell - I'd say ?500K Nothing for C Thomson at present - no one would bid - he wil be on decent wages and clubs who could afford these can get other similar players on similar wages out of contract. I think he has some potential and if he realises it (ie pops in a few free kicks) then potentially worth more Kyle possibly more if he keeps his good form until end season - big centre forwards who know what they are doing can realise a lot of money - I'd say up to 1.5million if he and we finish the season well. Temps if he regains his form anything up to ?4million - he is on the radar now as a goal scoring , good crossing wide player Of our other players I would say if suso comes back to his start of season form ?300K would not be unreasonable - his style would suit for example the Turkish league or Cyprus and they pay good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 This level of delusion usually comes from Hibs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Gary Glen - 250k I think we'd be lucky to get 25k for him to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bighusref Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Was out having a couple of beers the day and got into an arguement with a deluded Hobo who seems to think we only have two players of genuine sell on value. Those were wallace and temps. When I asked him if he forgot about Driver, his response and I quote "he's a crock and nae team will touch him with his record." Anyways, got me to thinking. Overall, what is our squads market value? Of course, every player is only worth what another team will pay but in your opinion what do you think? Kello - 2-3 million. He is not worth that. Hearts would look for ?1 Million plus IMO. Jamie Mac - 50k Free transfer. Balogh - 100k Free transfer. eggy - 500k Given we have turned down more in the past, I think we will get more for Jonsson (contract permitting) darren Barr - 50k Not a chance we would sell him for that, nor is that an accurate value for a Scotland International. Wallace - 3.5 million Closest to the mark so far. Zal - 2 million He was available on a free transfer not so long ago, nobody signed him. Who is gonna stump ?2 Mil for him? Bouzid - 100k His contract is up, ?0. Webster - 1 million Just been released by his club, ?0. C Thomson - 2.5 million Rudi - 100k Out of contract in the summer. J. Thomson - 250k Suso - 500k Not sure on contract situation, but that could be plausible. Ruben - 250K Isn't he out of contract in the summer as well? Ian Black - 250k Too early to tell, but bizarrely this could be too conservative. Stevenson - 100k Out of contract in the summer. obua - 50k Out of contract in the summer (I think) Driver - 3 million (should he keep fit) As you allude, you cannot value Driver at the moment. We turned down in excess of ?3 Mill in the past but he isn't worth anything today. Time will tell. mwrowic - 1 million Temps - 4 million Today? Longer term, who knows. He could be worth a lot more than that. Kyle - 500k Yeah, I'd go with that. Gary Glen - 250k Too much for a lad that hasn't done anything in the first team for a long time. Scott Robinson - 1.5 million Steven Elliot - 500k Hmmm, maybe if his form maintains. However, we got him for free not so long ago. Forgotten anyone? This is taking into account players age, lenght of contract and of course ability. Rudi, while being one of our best players has little time left on his contract and is ageing. All imo of course. Football manager ratings IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 our players are as expensive as whatever someone is willing to pay for them to put a price on any of our players is just nonsense & pointless. Correctamundo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I think the OP is spot in with his valuation of ?1.5m for Scott Robinson. Jamie Goal wasn't valued so I shall put a price on him. I reckon ?5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Some horrific over-pricing in the OP, but to enter into the spirit: Templeton, Wallace and Driver are all worth ?3m+ Zaliukas is worth ?1m+ Kello, Jonsson, Webster, Rudi, Elliott and maybe Kyle are all worth ?250k-?500k. Elliot, Suso, Bouzid, Black and very possibly Obua are worth ?100k-?250k. All the rest are dependant on who wanted them, what the terms were and the player(s) being uninjured and having a couple of years or so on their contract. How long's a piece of string for most of them, in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD_JAMBO Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 wtf some1 said temps is only worth 500 k u cant b serious yes he hasnt b playing well but defo around 3-4 mill on form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 wtf some1 said temps is only worth 500 k u cant b serious yes he hasnt b playing well but defo around 3-4 mill on form He has the potential to be worth that but he's not worth that at the moment imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumo Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Omg sometimes folk post absolute BELTERS on here. I hope you feel suitably ashamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Stinkfinger Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 It would seem that all our players are worth whatever Mr Romanov decides he wants to sell them for. If he doesn't want to sell then this thread is a crock of shit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 i think frankensteins original post and some of the others fail to take into account the way the transfer market is these days. the hard facts are very few of our players will ever leave for a transfer fee. they will either leave at the end of there contracts for nothing or be released through mutual consent. michael stewart, larry kingston, jose goncalves were all players who COULD, under the right circumstances, have left for decent fees but instead left for nothing. this is fairly typical of how things are at the moment. all things considered this thread is fairly pointless even if the valuations were nearer the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjl Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Omg sometimes folk post absolute BELTERS on here. I hope you feel suitably ashamed why should he feel ashamed for having a point of view. people who contribute only by throwing insults around should be more ashamed imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD_JAMBO Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 He has the potential to be worth that but he's not worth that at the moment imo. yep i agree thts wht i meant basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Drylaw coming onto a thread and not contributing. Nothing new. I am asking you what your opinion is and i'd respect that. Why come on, have a dig and not even contribute yourself? No wonder people say you are a complete and utter knob. People who don't even post. Pse take the night off mate ,,,your onto a loser here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Was out having a couple of beers the day and got into an arguement with a deluded Hobo who seems to think we only have two players of genuine sell on value. Those were wallace and temps. When I asked him if he forgot about Driver, his response and I quote "he's a crock and nae team will touch him with his record." Anyways, got me to thinking. Overall, what is our squads market value? Of course, every player is only worth what another team will pay but in your opinion what do you think? Kello - 2-3 million.?500.000 tops Jamie Mac - 50k?0 Balogh - 100k ?0 eggy - 500k ?200,000 darren Barr - ?0 Wallace - 3.5 million Zal - 2 million ?500,000 Bouzid - 100k Webster - just in the door so we need to see what he can do C Thomson - 2.5 million Rudi - 100k.maybe J. Thomson - 250k Suso - 500k Ruben - 250K.contact is nearly up Ian Black - 250k maybe Stevenson - 100kmaybe obua - 50k Driver - 3 million (should he keep fit):rolleyes:18 month left on his contract and will/can he stay fit mwrowic - 1 million Temps - 4 million. Kyle - 500k.you could double that if he could stay fit. Gary Glen - 250k Scott Robinson - 1.5 million Steven Elliot - 500k.?100,000 Forgotten anyone? This is taking into account players age, lenght of contract and of course ability. Rudi, while being one of our best players has little time left on his contract and is ageing. All imo of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 How many players have left Hearts in the last 4-5 seasons? By my reckoning the only 5 that have recouped a transfer fee have been Craig Gordon, Paul Hartley, Rudi Skacel, Roman Bednar and Christophe Berra - all the others left on freedeom of contract or were released. 90% of SPL players have little or no transfer value as they are only valuable to other teams when they are available on freedom of contract. It's really only International players, goalscoring strikers and highly promising young players that tend to get bought from SPL clubs - the rest all go for free or nominal transfer fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Bouzid - 100k C Thomson - 2.5 million J. Thomson - 250k mwrowic - 1 million Temps - 4 million Scott Robinson - 1.5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The players that I'd say have some transfer worth depending on the length of their contract are; Kello, C.Thomson, Wallace, Zaliukas, Jonsson, Templeton, Driver & Novikovas ..... the others like Webster, Palazeulos, Kyle, Elliott, Black etc you can usually get equivalent quality players in terms of age & experience in the Bosman market. Some of the younger players like C.Thomson, Novikovas, Robinson, J.Walker, Holt etc don't have any meaningful transfer value as yet but Templeton is a perfect example of how quickly a promising young player's potential value can shoot up in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecosse Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 No likely to be any more accurate than anyone elses estimates but at least it is neutral. http://www.transferm.../verein_43.html more realistic pricing though and nearer to what i would say they are worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Was out having a couple of beers the day and got into an arguement with a deluded Hobo who seems to think we only have two players of genuine sell on value. Those were wallace and temps. When I asked him if he forgot about Driver, his response and I quote "he's a crock and nae team will touch him with his record." Anyways, got me to thinking. Overall, what is our squads market value? Of course, every player is only worth what another team will pay but in your opinion what do you think? Kello - ?850k. Jamie Mac - 100k Balogh - 50k eggy - 500k darren Barr - 50k Wallace - 3 million Zal - 1.2 million Bouzid - 400k Webster - 0.5 million C Thomson - 0.5 million Rudi - 500k J. Thomson - 50k Suso - 200k Ruben - 200K Ian Black - 200k Stevenson - 20k obua - 10k Driver - 1.5 million mwrowic - 0.2 million Temps - 2.5 million Kyle - 200k Gary Glen - 50k Scott Robinson - 0.05 million Steven Elliot - 200k Forgotten anyone? This is taking into account players age, lenght of contract and of course ability. Rudi, while being one of our best players has little time left on his contract and is ageing. All imo of course. my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.N.T.H. Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Drylaw coming onto a thread and not contributing. Nothing new. I am asking you what your opinion is and i'd respect that. Why come on, have a dig and not even contribute yourself? No wonder people say you are a complete and utter knob. People who don't even post. Amazing that this guy gets away with posts like this yet i am reprimanded for saying things like 'STFU'. I will probably be reprimanded for even pointing this out, and no i haven't used the report function as it very rarely is successful and you get no update as to whether someone was even warned as there's a pretendy 'JKB data protection act' in place. PS. ?250K for Jason Thomson?! Are you having a laugh? The guy will count himself very fortunate if he's even playing for Bonnyrigg Rose in two years time. Horrific footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Obua - curly wurly and an elastic band. brilliant!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Was out having a couple of beers the day and got into an arguement with a deluded Hobo who seems to think we only have two players of genuine sell on value. Those were wallace and temps. When I asked him if he forgot about Driver, his response and I quote "he's a crock and nae team will touch him with his record." Anyways, got me to thinking. Overall, what is our squads market value? Of course, every player is only worth what another team will pay but in your opinion what do you think? Kello - 2-3 million. Jamie Mac - 50k Balogh - 100k eggy - 500k darren Barr - 50k Wallace - 3.5 million Zal - 2 million Bouzid - 100k Webster - 1 million C Thomson - 2.5 million Rudi - 100k J. Thomson - 250k Suso - 500k Ruben - 250K Ian Black - 250k Stevenson - 100k obua - 50k Driver - 3 million (should he keep fit) mwrowic - 1 million Temps - 4 million Kyle - 500k Gary Glen - 250k Scott Robinson - 1.5 million Steven Elliot - 500k Forgotten anyone? This is taking into account players age, lenght of contract and of course ability. Rudi, while being one of our best players has little time left on his contract and is ageing. All imo of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAberdeen Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Everyone must understand that, paying transfer fee in Scotland becoming very rare in post-Bosman era. Most of time when fee are involved are either established internationalsts or promising youngsters who could attract attention from OF/EPL/foreign clubs. Nowadays nobody pay fees for non-old firm regular players unless they fall into these two categories, as there are many similar quality available under Bosman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Everyone must understand that, paying transfer fee in Scotland becoming very rare in post-Bosman era. I do, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoony Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 kello, although he is having a good season, noone would pay 2-3 million for him. 1.5 at best, temps about 2.5, craig thompson 2.5? having a laugh. all good players but nowhere near those values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problem Officer? Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Someone has been playing far too much Football Manager IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Frankenstein Jambo has totally lost his shit again, hmm? Well, if nothing else this bodes well for some more old-fashioned bullying, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Maybe i have undervalued Barr but I think jj does not rate him in the slightest. CT, Hearts will not part ways with this lad for less that 2.5 mill IMO. Got to agree with everyone else on this thread.... mwrowic - 1 million ? Temps - 4 million ? Come on Eh? When has Vlad ever held out for that sort of money? Next You'll be telling me we sold Gordon for ?9 million... Oh wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc1874 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 For the attention of all you hibbs B*******. Wallace is worth more than the whole of the hibbs team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del1812 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Temps ?1.5-2 million Driver ?1-1.5 million Wallace ?2 million Zaliukas ?1-1.5million Kello 800k - ?1million Kyle 500-800k C Thomson 300-500k No one would command a fee if a club was interested. They'd either look for another player or wait until his contract run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMBOLEE Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Temps ?1.5-2 million Driver ?1-1.5 million Wallace ?2 million Zaliukas ?1-1.5million Kello 800k - ?1million Kyle 500-800k C Thomson 300-500k No one would command a fee if a club was interested. They'd either look for another player or wait until his contract run out. i agree with eveything apart from kello, if Mcgregor is about 5 million at the moment i think we could get about 2 million for kello,hope he stays with us for another few seasons as he would be hard to replace !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc fan Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 had to bring this thread back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstar Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 had to bring this thread back First time I have seen this and its just a major facepalm. Too many people been playing championship manager me thinks. Realistic we only have 3 or 4 players currently worth any money that actual clubs would pay for. The only teams with any sort of money are the old firm, EPL and championship clubs, on record they only really pay pennys for players that become or on the brink of the scottish national team. (how many forigners have been sold by scottish clubs to anyone, they are few and far apart) The only way to make money on players in scotland is to bring through youth / sign scottish players such as weir/mccann/hartley etc, and hope they get near the national team to gain recognition to then be sold on. Apart from that we have players worth value, and in contracts but not to the same value another club would pay for them, thats why almost every hearts player leaves us when the contract expires, and not through player sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Whatever happened to the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Whatever happened to the OP? He got offered a bigger salary to play the village idiot over at P&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 He got offered a bigger salary to play the village idiot over at P&B. ******* agents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 At least he got eggy right first time ive seen this thread and its fair to say its a ****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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