Footballfirst Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 How is young Wagner getting on? Havent heard much about him. I didn't rate Wagner too highly on last season's form, but he is much improved on his U19 showings this season. I think he is still some way away from making the 1st team squad though. Like all the U19s I's like to see them make it as professional footballers, but I know that the success rate is probably as low as 10%, so the odds are stacked against most of the youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I didn't rate Wagner too highly on last season's form, but he is much improved on his U19 showings this season. I think he is still some way away from making the 1st team squad though. Like all the U19s I's like to see them make it as professional footballers, but I know that the success rate is probably as low as 10%, so the odds are stacked against most of the youngsters. Who of the current lot do you think will make it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboBG Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Dont mean to offend his brother but Kostadinov has picked up where he left off pre-Xmas.. ie doing Jack Sprout in reserve games! He'll no doubt follow Copil out the door soon.How is young Wagner getting on? Havent heard much about him. You are Nostradamus!?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The whole point of academies is to expand the talent pool & increase & improve on the 'natural' 10% rate of players coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Dont mean to offend his brother but Kostadinov has picked up where he left off pre-Xmas.. ie doing Jack Sprout in reserve games! He'll no doubt follow Copil out the door soon. How is young Wagner getting on? Havent heard much about him. He has shown nowt since he has arrived.Im betting he will still be a wonderkid when he is 40.Bin him.Not sure about Wagner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Who of the current lot do you think will make it ? Ok, get ready to be shot down. !!! IMHO the following youngsters from the Reserves and U19s, "currently" look to have a reasonable chance of making it. R McGowan, D Templeton, S Husband, C Thompson, J Stewart The others obviosly still have a chance while they are playing in their respective age groups, so their non-inclusion in my list means nothing in terms of their development, e.g. S Robinson. Indeed I still have some reservations about each of those in my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Templeton can also play "in the hole", saw him have a couple of excellent games in that position earlier in the season. His performance was even more impressive given that it was Makela he was playing off. Roll on season 2013/14 when Csaba might just about give Templeton and R.Wallace a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Was Csaba at the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Templeton's doing the right thing. Playing well consistently in the reserves (6 or 7 goals from right/left wing), which clearly impresses Csaba. He'll get his chance before long, of that I'm sure. I've never saw him play. At the begining of the season and before that everyone was saying he is too small. Has he filled out a bit? Is he strong enough to handle the SPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeToonJambo Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I've never saw him play. At the begining of the season and before that everyone was saying he is too small. Has he filled out a bit? Is he strong enough to handle the SPL? He is still small but very fast and can hold his own against bigger opponents. Jimmy Johnstone wasn't the biggest but that didn't do him any harm. Templeton, in my opinion, is a class act and should be given a chance in the first team. His second goal was a screamer from 25 yards and gave the keeper no chance at all. His first was a bit lucky but the linesman was in no doubt that it had crossed the line. Someone asked if Csaba was there. The answer is "No". Angel Cernenkov was in the dugout along with the physio. No other Hearts officials were there as far as I could see in a crowd of about 20 (The weather was awful). Falkirk, on the other hand had about 6 in the dugout at one point including Neil McCann and Jackie MacNamara. Yogi was trying to hide up in the stand but gave himself away when he started shouting at the referee. As for the game, considering the conditions, it was great entertainment. The Falkirk goal came very much against the run of play and the second half was as one-sided as I've seen in a while. A very impressive performance from a very young team. Interestingly Dennis McLaughlin was in the dugout despite it being reported yesterday that he had gone to Dumbarton on loan. I would mostly agree with the ratings given earlier in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosheeturtle Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 He is still small but very fast and can hold his own against bigger opponents. Jimmy Johnstone wasn't the biggest but that didn't do him any harm. Templeton, in my opinion, is a class act and should be given a chance in the first team. His second goal was a screamer from 25 yards and gave the keeper no chance at all. His first was a bit lucky but the linesman was in no doubt that it had crossed the line. Someone asked if Csaba was there. The answer is "No". Angel Cernenkov was in the dugout along with the physio. No other Hearts officials were there as far as I could see in a crowd of about 20 (The weather was awful). Falkirk, on the other hand had about 6 in the dugout at one point including Neil McCann and Jackie MacNamara. Yogi was trying to hide up in the stand but gave himself away when he started shouting at the referee. As for the game, considering the conditions, it was great entertainment. The Falkirk goal came very much against the run of play and the second half was as one-sided as I've seen in a while. A very impressive performance from a very young team. Interestingly Dennis McLaughlin was in the dugout despite it being reported yesterday that he had gone to Dumbarton on loan. I would mostly agree with the ratings given earlier in the thread. So Angel Cernenkov was the muppet in the dug out wondered who he was!! Have to say I was rather angry with him, he didn't help the team out at all!! They were a young team and need encouragement and he gave none or any advice to the boys. The falkirk dugout were giving their boys advice all the time esp neil mccann who does get rather angry at the officials but he was the exact same when he was in the hearts dugout at the reserves!! Think the boys need someone in the dugout giving them advice esp since its an important time for their development as players!! Anyone know where Banks was? As he has been in the dugout a few times with the reserves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 He is still small but very fast and can hold his own against bigger opponents. Jimmy Johnstone wasn't the biggest but that didn't do him any harm. Templeton, in my opinion, is a class act and should be given a chance in the first team. His second goal was a screamer from 25 yards and gave the keeper no chance at all. His first was a bit lucky but the linesman was in no doubt that it had crossed the line. Someone asked if Csaba was there. The answer is "No". Angel Cernenkov was in the dugout along with the physio. No other Hearts officials were there as far as I could see in a crowd of about 20 (The weather was awful). Falkirk, on the other hand had about 6 in the dugout at one point including Neil McCann and Jackie MacNamara. Yogi was trying to hide up in the stand but gave himself away when he started shouting at the referee. As for the game, considering the conditions, it was great entertainment. The Falkirk goal came very much against the run of play and the second half was as one-sided as I've seen in a while. A very impressive performance from a very young team. Interestingly Dennis McLaughlin was in the dugout despite it being reported yesterday that he had gone to Dumbarton on loan. I would mostly agree with the ratings given earlier in the thread. Thanks for yours and Football Firsts reports on the game. It was interesting to see such a young team being put out (I think only Mrowiec and Kello were the only one's above 22.) Good to see that Templeton has continued the good form he has shown in the first half of the year and surely must deserve to get at least the odd sub appearence. Also good to see such a young team have a fight back like that, well done lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeToonJambo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 So Angel Cernenkov was the muppet in the dug out wondered who he was!! Have to say I was rather angry with him, he didn't help the team out at all!! They were a young team and need encouragement and he gave none or any advice to the boys. The falkirk dugout were giving their boys advice all the time esp neil mccann who does get rather angry at the officials but he was the exact same when he was in the hearts dugout at the reserves!! Think the boys need someone in the dugout giving them advice esp since its an important time for their development as players!! Anyone know where Banks was? As he has been in the dugout a few times with the reserves!! I've seen most of the reserve games this season and Angel has always been quite quiet. I think it's just his nature. I don't see Arsene Wenger doing a lot of shouting either and it doesn't appear to affect the way Arsenal play. I suspect that Angel does all his work on the training pitch and allows the team just to go out and play. It seems to be working judging by results this season and some of the play yesterday, especially considering the conditions, was terrific. There's no need to shout instructions if his pre-match instructions are already being followed. Another reason he doesn't shout a lot could be that his English isn't that great. As for Banks, as you say, he's normally in the dugout so don't know what happened yesterday. Going off topic a wee bit but, having seen a lot of our youngsters this year, I'm not unduly worried about rumours of half the first team leaving in the summer (we had the same stories in January as well, of course). We have a bunch of talented youngsters ready to take their place and, if forced to play them, they wouldn't let us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Going off topic a wee bit but, having seen a lot of our youngsters this year, I'm not unduly worried about rumours of half the first team leaving in the summer (we had the same stories in January as well, of course). We have a bunch of talented youngsters ready to take their place and, if forced to play them, they wouldn't let us down. I'm looking forward to seeing them come through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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