Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 just yesterday csaba said the 2 kaunas players werecoming to train but that was it, now today one of the kaunas players has said he has signed a 6 months contract! if that is the case once again romanov has hung his manager out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawrrrrrrr Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Don't be silly They are signing cause they impressed in the one day they were here that Csaba decided to completely change his strong opinions already shared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Harris Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the two statements are not necessarily contradictory. just because he has a six month contract doesn't mean he's here to do anything other than train for the time being. Think Csaba was just undelining that they weren't here to go straight into the first team. If Cinikas does, then you'd definitely have a point. P.S. can we merge this with the cinikas thread and reopen it? That thread was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I can't possibly comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 just yesterday csaba said the 2 kaunas players werecoming to train but that was it, now today one of the kaunas players has said he has signed a 6 months contract! if that is the case once again romanov has hung his manager out to dry. Where has he said that ? also we could not have played them unless they were loaned to us any way ! Again the true test will be if they are starting on Saturday ! Keep your drama queen statements till this happens ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was under the impression that both players were over till the summer. Contract or not, pretty confident that both will not be pushed in to the side without Csaba's say so. Team sheets always bring out different opinions in fans, but I cant recall one this season that was "Whooooa, no way man" Lithuanian players will always be coming back and forth, rightly or wrongly thats the way its going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was under the impression that both players were over till the summer. Contract or not, pretty confident that both will not be pushed in to the side without Csaba's say so. Team sheets always bring out different opinions in fans, but I cant recall one this season that was "Whooooa, no way man" Lithuanian players will always be coming back and forth, rightly or wrongly thats the way its going to be. Agreed. This was a majort part of the reason the atmosphere was so hostile at Tynecastle last Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 OH NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigaro Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the two statements are not necessarily contradictory. just because he has a six month contract doesn't mean he's here to do anything other than train for the time being. Think Csaba was just undelining that they weren't here to go straight into the first team. If Cinikas does, then you'd definitely have a point. P.S. can we merge this with the cinikas thread and reopen it? That thread was fun. And it had a great title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo27_22 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Might just be another Velicka which is just what we need. Another Beniuseless would be a catastrophe. Would like to give the guy a chance before I look out my pitchfork again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Where has he said that ? also we could not have played them unless they were loaned to us any way ! Again the true test will be if they are starting on Saturday ! Keep your drama queen statements till this happens ! the kaunas player has said he has signed a 6 month contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 just yesterday csaba said the 2 kaunas players werecoming to train but that was it, now today one of the kaunas players has said he has signed a 6 months contract! if that is the case once again romanov has hung his manager out to dry. Try to keep up - all that was contained in the recent marathon thread. One of the Kaunus players didn't say it today - the Daily Record (and maybe others) reported it today. Old hat mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Is the lithuanian season finished ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the kaunas player has said he has signed a 6 month contract. Is it a loan contract though, Mickey? If he is to play any games for the younger age groups as an overage player, surely he would need a deal in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was under the impression that both players were over till the summer. Contract or not, pretty confident that both will not be pushed in to the side without Csaba's say so. Team sheets always bring out different opinions in fans, but I cant recall one this season that was "Whooooa, no way man" Lithuanian players will always be coming back and forth, rightly or wrongly thats the way its going to be. agreed! team selection is 100% better this season. i just hope vlad isn't going to start throwing kaunas duds at csaba and lets him pick his own signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Would you not prefer to focus on the good job he is doing, and how he has persuaded Vlad to leave the running of team alone. Add that he signed the keeper he wanted, and some would say that we are doing ok this season and we should be a bit positive. He sent home Audrey and most weeks the only Lithuanian who plays is big Zal, and that is on merit. Why do we constantly need to be negative, searching out any headlines just to moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Is it a loan contract though, Mickey? If he is to play any games for the younger age groups as an overage player, surely he would need a deal in place? point is ga is csaba said they were here to train and that was it. so if he's got a 6 month contract it's been behind csabas back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Would you not prefer to focus on the good job he is doing, and how he has persuaded Vlad to leave the running of team alone. Add that he signed the keeper he wanted, and some would say that we are doing ok this season and we should be a bit positive. He sent home Audrey and most weeks the only Lithuanian who plays is big Zal, and that is on merit. Why do we constantly need to be negative, searching out any headlines just to moan. there's no doubt there'e much more positives at hearts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Is it a loan contract though, Mickey? If he is to play any games for the younger age groups as an overage player, surely he would need a deal in place? you can play reserve games as a trialist, even if the club doesn't have the player's registration. you can't play first team games as a trialist though. don't know if there's a limit to the number of games you can play as a trialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 point is ga is csaba said they were here to train and that was it. so if he's got a 6 month contract it's been behind csabas back. I would be shocked and also a little disapointed if either of the players never got a run out for one of the younger teams. I dont see a problem with it tbh - suppose proof will be in the pudding etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would be shocked and also a little disapointed if either of the players never got a run out for one of the younger teams. I dont see a problem with it tbh - suppose proof will be in the pudding etc. i would have a problem with it if he signed a contract behind csabas back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 you can play reserve games as a trialist, even if the club doesn't have the player's registration. you can't play first team games as a trialist though. don't know if there's a limit to the number of games you can play as a trialist. Cheers. So even if Kaunus hold the registration of the players, they are cool to play for the younger age groups if permission is given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Tucker Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the kaunas player has said he has signed a 6 month contract. .....aye, but where has he said it? TV? Newspaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 i would have a problem with it if he signed a contract behind csabas back. I would be upset if that was the case also. The Daily Record might have lost something in translation - think this needs filed in the "Lets wait and see" part of the old filing cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 did mendy and hleb no say they had signed contracts.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 .....aye, but where has he said it? TV? Newspaper? direct quote from the player in the newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Cheers. So even if Kaunus hold the registration of the players, they are cool to play for the younger age groups if permission is given? as far as i know. many players have played reserve games while listed as 'TRIALIST'. maybe there's some rule which limits the number of games though, maybe it's 1 or 2. there should be someone around that can shed more light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 He's 22. We must have signed him as a first team player. He's also a forward and we havent got many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 the kaunas player has said he has signed a 6 month contract. Mad Vlad can tear it up. It wouldn't be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 we know the lithuanian league isn't as strong as the scottish league but look at these players in these terms... they were both deemed of sufficient quality to be involved against rangers in the CL qualifiers (and maybe also vs sampdoria). going on the assumption that the CL games were just as important to kaunas as they were to rangers, doesn't this give some indication that they must be reasonable players and reasonably experienced? kaunas also beat rangers with the squad they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bapswent Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 just yesterday csaba said the 2 kaunas players werecoming to train but that was it, now today one of the kaunas players has said he has signed a 6 months contract! if that is the case once again romanov has hung his manager out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Csaba keeps going on about how he has given lists of players to Hearts that he is interested in signing. Burley used to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Just playing Devil's Advocate for a moment - didn't our first Cowness signing this summer come in from "nowhere" - made debut v Falkirk Mr Mrowiec:mw_rolleyes: http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Match/MatchReport/0,,10289~45500,00.html We may see Cinikas quicker than what people imagine:mw_rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 we know the lithuanian league isn't as strong as the scottish league but look at these players in these terms... they were both deemed of sufficient quality to be involved against rangers in the CL qualifiers (and maybe also vs sampdoria). going on the assumption that the CL games were just as important to kaunas as they were to rangers, doesn't this give some indication that they must be reasonable players and reasonably experienced? kaunas also beat rangers with the squad they had. I doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 we know the lithuanian league isn't as strong as the scottish league but look at these players in these terms... they were both deemed of sufficient quality to be involved against rangers in the CL qualifiers (and maybe also vs sampdoria). going on the assumption that the CL games were just as important to kaunas as they were to rangers, doesn't this give some indication that they must be reasonable players and reasonably experienced? kaunas also beat rangers with the squad they had. don't have a problem if csaba picks them but csaba said yesterday they were here just to train ut the kaunas player has said he's signed 6 month contract and that being the case it's behind csabas back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Csaba keeps going on about how he has given lists of players to Hearts that he is interested in signing. Burley used to do that. And we all know what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I doesn't work like that. what doesn't work like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 The Daily Record might have lost something in translation - think this needs filed in the "Lets wait and see" part of the old filing cabinet. Sod that. Now is the time for protests and knee jerk reactions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 that's a very adult post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 don't have a problem if csaba picks them but csaba said yesterday they were here just to train ut the kaunas player has said he's signed 6 month contract and that being the case it's behind csabas back only if you deal in absolutes and are taking every reported word literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Csaba keeps going on about how he has given lists of players to Hearts that he is interested in signing. Burley used to do that. and i'll bet you these 2 kaunas players weren't on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 And we all know what happened there. Spot on. Csaba needs to shut up and get on with his job or he will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 only if you deal in absolutes and are taking every reported word literally. direct quotes from the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Zubavicius started in both Kaunas V Sampdoria games - Cinikas was a sub & came on in the away leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Spot on. Csaba needs to shut up and get on with his job or he will be next. no romanov needs to realise he's a buisnessman and knows feck all about football and isn't qualified to make decisions on players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 direct quotes from the player. still not proof of anything being done behind csaba's back as suggested by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Zubavicius started in both Kaunas V Sampdoria games - Cinikas was a sub & came on in the away leg. CB.... how many games did both these guys start for FBK last Season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 From 2 very brief news reports 1 each from Csaba & Cinikas neither of which gave a huge amount of detail or specifics people seem to have extrapolated a lot based on little definite information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 CB.... how many games did both these guys start for FBK last Season ? I've no idea DH - Victorian made a point about Champs League games so I just googled the 2 Sampdoria matches....but i'll try to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 you know what this thread is, don't you? it's the reincarnation of the cinikas thread... it's come back to life. it was angry about being closed down by dex and now it's back to wreak havoc again!!! this is the start of JKB becoming sentient and taking over the world in a terminator-esque 'rise of the machines'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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