PresidentRomanov Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 keep your money for the next round. don't pump any money into the lochend wimbledon;) It's the Cup, money's split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csaba the hut! Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Not been decided when they go on sale yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It's the Cup, money's split a ken it's still putting money into the hobo biscuit tin tho;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackaysCentreSpot Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I thought Sky had coverage of the SC. Sky are covering our match yet BBC Scotland are showing the Rangers game live on Tues 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The draw was flawed and there is more to come on this in the papers tomorrow. I'm not aware of the detail's of the story but some real questions are being asked about the Scottish Cup 4th Round draw. 1. It would appear that all the balls were placed in the bowl in alphabetical order. 2. NS (home team) and GB (away team) can't stir the balls in the bowl because the bowl is too small or the balls are too big. 3. Peterhead....Queens Park......St Johnstone......Rangers....Raith Rovers are all pulled out the hat in that order. 4. For example......there was never a chance in hell of Queens Park getting a Celtic or a Hearts or Hibs because NS and GB can only pick teams at the top of the bowl because they can't get to the the balls at the bottom of the bowl. 5. Obviousily, once a number of the top layer of teams have been removed it gave NS and GB a wee bit more room to move around the bowl.... but not much. (you really have to see it to believe it) The point here is that if Queens Park etc..etc don't get an equal chance to get any team in the draw..... in my opinion, it isn't and wasn't a fair draw. SHOCKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The draw was flawed and there is more to come on this in the papers tomorrow. I'm not aware of the detail's of the story but some real questions are being asked about the Scottish Cup 4th Round draw. 1. It would appear that all the balls were placed in the bowl in alphabetical order. 2. NS (home team) and GB (away team) can't stir the balls in the bowl because the bowl is too small or the balls are too big. 3. Peterhead....Queens Park......St Johnstone......Rangers....Raith Rovers are all pulled out the hat in that order. 4. For example......there was never a chance in hell of Queens Park getting a Celtic or a Hearts or Hibs because NS and GB can only pick teams at the top of the bowl because they can't get to the the balls at the bottom of the bowl. 5. Obviousily, once a number of the top layer of teams have been removed it gave NS and GB a wee bit more room to move around the bowl.... but not much. (you really have to see it to believe it) The point here is that if Queens Park etc..etc don't get an equal chance to get any team in the draw..... in my opinion, it isn't and wasn't a fair draw. SHOCKING At least they can't blame Alex Salmond for this one. Didn't see it myself but if that is true it should be re-drawn imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The draw was flawed and there is more to come on this in the papers tomorrow. I'm not aware of the detail's of the story but some real questions are being asked about the Scottish Cup 4th Round draw. 1. It would appear that all the balls were placed in the bowl in alphabetical order. 2. NS (home team) and GB (away team) can't stir the balls in the bowl because the bowl is too small or the balls are too big. 3. Peterhead....Queens Park......St Johnstone......Rangers....Raith Rovers are all pulled out the hat in that order. 4. For example......there was never a chance in hell of Queens Park getting a Celtic or a Hearts or Hibs because NS and GB can only pick teams at the top of the bowl because they can't get to the the balls at the bottom of the bowl. 5. Obviousily, once a number of the top layer of teams have been removed it gave NS and GB a wee bit more room to move around the bowl.... but not much. (you really have to see it to believe it) The point here is that if Queens Park etc..etc don't get an equal chance to get any team in the draw..... in my opinion, it isn't and wasn't a fair draw. SHOCKING Oh please let this be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The draw was flawed and there is more to come on this in the papers tomorrow. I'm not aware of the detail's of the story but some real questions are being asked about the Scottish Cup 4th Round draw. 1. It would appear that all the balls were placed in the bowl in alphabetical order. 2. NS (home team) and GB (away team) can't stir the balls in the bowl because the bowl is too small or the balls are too big. 3. Peterhead....Queens Park......St Johnstone......Rangers....Raith Rovers are all pulled out the hat in that order. 4. For example......there was never a chance in hell of Queens Park getting a Celtic or a Hearts or Hibs because NS and GB can only pick teams at the top of the bowl because they can't get to the the balls at the bottom of the bowl. 5. Obviousily, once a number of the top layer of teams have been removed it gave NS and GB a wee bit more room to move around the bowl.... but not much. (you really have to see it to believe it) The point here is that if Queens Park etc..etc don't get an equal chance to get any team in the draw..... in my opinion, it isn't and wasn't a fair draw. SHOCKING If it had an impact on either of the Old Firm then there would be a Stewards enquiry but as they have easy ties nothing will be done, you should know that by now Euan. Incidentally what's it like getting the **** ripped out of you in the afternoon's by Steve McKenna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Oh please let this be true [/quote I watched the draw about 10 times and it is shocking. NS and GB can't pick teams at the bottom of the bowl. Look at the first five teams that were pulled our.....PQRS.....end of the alphabet. Once those teams were moved out the way other teams then come into play. If there isn't an equal chance for TEAM Y to draw TEAM A.....then it is flawed and NOT fair. There has to be a re-draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Oh please let this be true [/quote I watched the draw about 10 times and it is shocking. NS and GB can't pick teams at the bottom of the bowl. Look at the first five teams that were pulled our.....PQRS.....end of the alphabet. Once those teams were moved out the way other teams then come into play. If there isn't an equal chance for TEAM Y to draw TEAM A.....then it is flawed and NOT fair. There has to be a re-draw. And that'll happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 If it had an impact on either of the Old Firm then there would be a Stewards enquiry but as they have easy ties nothing will be done, you should know that by now Euan. Incidentally what's it like getting the **** ripped out of you in the afternoon's by Steve McKenna? The point here is that you have teams going through THREE rounds to get in the hat with the big boys. They all want/dream of the money spinning tie/TV revenue....that come's with a good draw. Unfortunately, they have not been given an equal chance to get that tie! St Johnstone, for example, are at home to Rangers....the odds on them getting the Gers were huge. Why should their odds be better than most others to to get the plumb draw/money spinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 And that'll happen. You're spot on Geoff.....it won't happen. But that shouldn't stop us from bringing it to the attention of fans across the country. Can't wait to see how the SFA are going to respond to this. The reaction of the smaller clubs could be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As I mentioned in an earlier thread. The draw was flawed and there is more to come on this in the papers tomorrow. I'm not aware of the detail's of the story but some real questions are being asked about the Scottish Cup 4th Round draw. 1. It would appear that all the balls were placed in the bowl in alphabetical order. 2. NS (home team) and GB (away team) can't stir the balls in the bowl because the bowl is too small or the balls are too big. 3. Peterhead....Queens Park......St Johnstone......Rangers....Raith Rovers are all pulled out the hat in that order. 4. For example......there was never a chance in hell of Queens Park getting a Celtic or a Hearts or Hibs because NS and GB can only pick teams at the top of the bowl because they can't get to the the balls at the bottom of the bowl. 5. Obviousily, once a number of the top layer of teams have been removed it gave NS and GB a wee bit more room to move around the bowl.... but not much. (you really have to see it to believe it) The point here is that if Queens Park etc..etc don't get an equal chance to get any team in the draw..... in my opinion, it isn't and wasn't a fair draw. SHOCKING are you certain that there will be coverage of this in the papers tomorrow? i trust you will not be neglecting to mention it yourself during the course of the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 are you certain that there will be coverage of this in the papers tomorrow? i trust you will not be neglecting to mention it yourself during the course of the day? Mentioned it on Monday (two hours after the draw) and discussed it earlier tonight as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Mentioned it on Monday (two hours after the draw) and discussed it earlier tonight as well. how about the papers, real ones and red-topped comics? i didn't see anything today. are you 100% that there will be coverage tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 how about the papers, real ones and red-topped comics? i didn't see anything today. are you 100% that there will be coverage tomorrow? The Daily Record are running something. Not sure about the rest. I'd be surprised if it didn't grow some arms and legs over the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The Daily Record are running something. Not sure about the rest. I'd be surprised if it didn't grow some arms and legs over the next few days Well woohoo. I bet they'll be pointing to the injustice suffered by lower division teams! Instead, they'll just portray Rangers as the victims... Ewen, can you stop hyping up the press coverage this will get, and just admit that there'll be a piece in the paper, then that will be it? So the SFA couldn't run a bath - what's new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The Daily Record are running something. Not sure about the rest. I'd be surprised if it didn't grow some arms and legs over the next few days well cheers for that. looking forward to the 2-liner hidden just under the bowls news then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well woohoo. I bet they'll be pointing to the injustice suffered by lower division teams! Instead, they'll just portray Rangers as the victims... Ewen, can you stop hyping up the press coverage this will get, and just admit that there'll be a piece in the paper, then that will be it? So the SFA couldn't run a bath - what's new? Shaun, you're asking me to have a pop when I'm not sure how this will go or how much coverage it will get. It deserve's a great amount of coverage, in my opinion, as questions have to be asked of the draw. I've been asking them. Let's see what the answers are....before I answer your question. Ask me again on Friday..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Shaun, you're asking me to have a pop when I'm not sure how this will go or how much coverage it will get. It deserve's a great amount of coverage, in my opinion, as questions have to be asked of the draw. I've been asking them. Let's see what the answers are....before I answer your question. Ask me again on Friday..... I'd be more sympathetic, Ewen, if your show gave plenty of coverage to lower division clubs on a regular basis, and it wasn't the Daily Record in wireless form. I'd probably also take you a bit more seriously if, as a journalist, you at least knew where apostrophes are supposed to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoes_off Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Back to the actual game in hand, what are the chances of a supporter like me who has only been to one away game this season of getting a ticket, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Shaun, you're asking me to have a pop when I'm not sure how this will go or how much coverage it will get. It deserve's a great amount of coverage, in my opinion, as questions have to be asked of the draw. I've been asking them. Let's see what the answers are....before I answer your question. Ask me again on Friday..... There was hardly a big deal over the League Cup semi final draw so I can't see this one getting much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Shaun, you're asking me to have a pop when I'm not sure how this will go or how much coverage it will get. It deserve's a great amount of coverage, in my opinion, as questions have to be asked of the draw. I've been asking them. Let's see what the answers are....before I answer your question. Ask me again on Friday..... Of course it deserves coverage, but like zillions of other things that go on in Scottish football, it's not going to get any. Not anything meaningful anyway. I think you know that just as much as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'd be more sympathetic, Ewen, if your show gave plenty of coverage to lower division clubs on a regular basis, and it wasn't the Daily Record in wireless form. I'd probably also take you a bit more seriously if, as a journalist, you at least knew where apostrophes are supposed to go! Shaun, I don't want to get into a debate about the show. A phone-in can only go with the calls you get. Traynor....Talk Sport.....Five Live....You're on SKY Sports spend the vast majority of their time discussing the big teams chasing championships and those competing in Europe. What is an apostrophe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Of course it deserves coverage, but like zillions of other things that go on in Scottish football, it's not going to get any. Not anything meaningful anyway. I think you know that just as much as we do. I said tonight....'I'm surprised the rest of the media havn't picked this up'. I then got a call at the end of the show to inform me that they were going to report it. How many newspapers? How much coverage will it get? I can't answer that. I'd like to think that if it is only one paper tomorrow....then the rest will follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Shaun, I don't want to get into a debate about the show. A phone-in can only go with the calls you get. Traynor....Talk Sport.....Five Live....You're on SKY Sports spend the vast majority of their time discussing the big teams chasing championships and those competing in Europe. What is an apostrophe? Do you ask for non-OF and even non-SPL callers? Do you adopt anything other than the West coast 'party line' when it comes to the OF, or indeed Hearts? Meanwhile, I realise your question is in jest - but surely you want to do better than the naff show you're currently working on, don't you? I mean, how am I supposed to take something seriously if it features a Bebo page such as this? (Pay particular attention to the Wall: serious journalism, it ain't): http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5413619343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Shaun, I don't want to get into a debate about the show. A phone-in can only go with the calls you get. Traynor....Talk Sport.....Five Live....You're on SKY Sports spend the vast majority of their time discussing the big teams chasing championships and those competing in Europe. What is an apostrophe? as a result of your inside track, would you be kind enough to furnish kickback with any juicy info that results from the appearance / non-appearance of this story? perhaps specifically of who knows what and which outlets are participating in one of their favourite habits.... namely self-censorship of pertinent news. you would also prove your allegience to the non-believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'd be more sympathetic, Ewen, if your show gave plenty of coverage to lower division clubs on a regular basis, and it wasn't the Daily Record in wireless form. I'd probably also take you a bit more seriously if, as a journalist, you at least knew where apostrophes are supposed to go! Now now Shaun, my Mum always said you should not mock the afflicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I said tonight....'I'm surprised the rest of the media havn't picked this up'. I then got a call at the end of the show to inform me that they were going to report it. How many newspapers? How much coverage will it get? I can't answer that. I'd like to think that if it is only one paper tomorrow....then the rest will follow suit. Well, yes..but only because they can't be seen not to report it in some fashion if others have. But I'd put money on it getting no more than a few lines squished into the corner of the page, and then it'll just trickle away never to be mentioned again. The call you received confirming that it would be in tomorrow...was it Keith Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 How about a wee charity bet JTAT? If it gets a few lines you have to go on air tomorrow night and say something along the lines of 'attention all dirty weegies - you are the s*um of the earth and I hope your next dump is a hedgehog ya rancid feckers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Obviously 5 teams (balls) was enough then as Aberdeen were the 6th team out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well, yes..but only because they can't be seen not to report it in some fashion if others have. But I'd put money on it getting no more than a few lines squished into the corner of the page, and then it'll just trickle away never to be mentioned again. The call you received confirming that it would be in tomorrow...was it Keith Jackson? 'it' doesn't communicate via telephone.... 'it' sends a poltergeist as a messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo121 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Ewen to be fair I listen to Talk Sport regularly and mainly due to the fact that they give a fair amount of coverage to almost every club. They regularly have managers from the lower divisions and Scotland on, they also invite questions regarding these clubs. There is the usual Manu Chelski Liverpool and Arsenal stuff making up the majority however they do try at least to be fair to other clubs. It may be worth you looking to encourage debate about football from all divisions and not encouraging the scourge of Scottish football which is the bigot brothers. You may be surprised as to the amount of extra listeners you would get. Lets face it the argument that you can only answer the questions that you get is not correct as you set the tone of the debate. I do however think your point on the draw is absolutely correct and should be highlighted, although unless it hurt the OF then nothing will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The call you received confirming that it would be in tomorrow...was it Keith Jackson? Fecking Michael Jackson knows more about football than that jakey weegie clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambothroughandthrough Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Do you ask for non-OF and even non-SPL callers? Do you adopt anything other than the West coast 'party line' when it comes to the OF, or indeed Hearts? Meanwhile, I realise your question is in jest - but surely you want to do better than the naff show you're currently working on, don't you? I mean, how am I supposed to take something seriously if it features a Bebo page such as this? (Pay particular attention to the Wall: serious journalism, it ain't): http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5413619343 That bebo page has nothing to do with us....there's a few like that floating around and there are some on Facebook as well. We keep getting them removed....thanks for bringing that one to our attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 That bebo page has nothing to do with us....there's a few like that floating around and there are some on Facebook as well. We keep getting them removed....thanks for bringing that one to our attention Good, I'm glad to hear it. But it was the first thing I found when searching for 'Real Radio' - and I could've sworn the Wall looked exactly the same when I first discovered that page many, many months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 'it' doesn't communicate via telephone.... 'it' sends a poltergeist as a messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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