cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How do the Championship and the SPL compare? Have to say, I think the Championship is vastly over-rated. I think it's little more than SPL with money. Rangers and Celtic would destroy any team in that league. During the last 2 weeks i've seen Birmingham City, Coventry, Cardiff City, Notts Forrest, Wolves, Reading, Sheff Utd and Sheff Wed. The only team that played well and looked even half decent was Reading, the rest of them played poorly and were nothing special. In terms of players, practically all of those teams have many better players than us and the 9 other non-OF teams but the standard of football is awful and the amounts paid for some of these guys seems to be way, way over the top. Basically, Championship = SPL with more money, more teams and similar football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Its an interesting one. I know pre season friendlys dont mean much but this year QPR were beaten by both Falkirk and Kilmarnock. QPR were meant to be the big challengers this year as well. Blackpool were also beaten by Falkirk comfortably at home and i am sure there was another team also. So yeah i think you are spot on - the championship standard is not that great, certainly poorer than it was 5 years ago before the mega ITV cash dried up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Its amazing the amount of money they pay for players in the championship too. There's alot of good players but the ?2-5M guys rarely look like world beaters when they play in the Prem. I'd agree its overrated, but then it has more money, more supporters. Comparing Killie to someone like Wolves is like comparing Maggie Thatcher to wee Kylie Minogue is shaggability terms (or two other very different things - ladies may wish to replace with John Prescott and Johnny Depp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How do the Championship and the SPL compare? Have to say, I think the Championship is vastly over-rated. I think it's little more than SPL with money. Rangers and Celtic would destroy any team in that league. During the last 2 weeks i've seen Birmingham City, Coventry, Cardiff City, Notts Forrest, Wolves, Reading, Sheff Utd and Sheff Wed. The only team that played well and looked even half decent was Reading, the rest of them played poorly and were nothing special. In terms of players, practically all of those teams have many better players than us and the 9 other non-OF teams but the standard of football is awful and the amounts paid for some of these guys seems to be way, way over the top. Basically, Championship = SPL with more money, more teams and similar football. Sums it up perfectly - I've been to a few Championship games over the past few years, and I don't think the standard of football on offer in any of the matches I've seen was really any better than the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If Hearts were down there we'd be huge. More interest, more money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Most SPL players aren't good enough to play in the Premiership or for the Old Firm, most of the average to better SPL players have been moving to the Championship in a fairly steady stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 [/b] Sums it up perfectly - I've been to a few Championship games over the past few years, and I don't think the standard of football on offer in any of the matches I've seen was really any better than the SPL. Id say the same about the premiership. Outwith the top few, its a mediocre league, especially when you take into account the money spent. Been to a few games in the last few years and was disappointed to be honest. Other than Man U Liverpool which was immense!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If I was to compare Scottish teams with English it would be something like: Rangers & Celtic = premier league. Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd = championship The rest = league 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Can anyone think of any players who have been signed from the Championship that are doing well in the Prem? Theo Walcott I suppose. Who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Can anyone think of any players who have been signed from the Championship that are doing well in the Prem? Theo Walcott I suppose. Who else? Darren Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Darren Bent He played in the prem with Charlton and was only sold when they were relegated so I don't think he really played in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Can anyone think of any players who have been signed from the Championship that are doing well in the Prem? Theo Walcott I suppose. Who else? In recent times: Gareth Bale Ashley Young Phil Jagielka Curtis Davis Zoltan Gera Kenwyne Jones Joleon Lescott Nicky Shorey If you go back further there is a lot more. If I was to compare Scottish teams with English it would be something like: Rangers & Celtic = premier league. Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd = championship The rest = league 1 or 2. I'd agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 He played in the prem with Charlton and was only sold when they were relegated so I don't think he really played in the Championship. True man. But he went to the Charlton from Ipswich Town for a few million and has hacked it in the premiership. Apart from the two metioned though, not many players have been able to cut the mustard at the top level. Huge gulf in class form the Championship to the Premiership now. It is now quite rare to see succesful signings from the lower leagues these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 In recent times: Gareth Bale Ashley Young Phil Jagielka Curtis Davis Zoltan Gera Kenwyne Jones Joleon Lescott Nicky Shorey If you go back further there is a lot more. I'd agree with that. Every time i've seen Bale play in the premiership he's been terrible. The others are all fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How do the Championship and the SPL compare? Have to say, I think the Championship is vastly over-rated. I think it's little more than SPL with money. Rangers and Celtic would destroy any team in that league. During the last 2 weeks i've seen Birmingham City, Coventry, Cardiff City, Notts Forrest, Wolves, Reading, Sheff Utd and Sheff Wed. The only team that played well and looked even half decent was Reading, the rest of them played poorly and were nothing special. In terms of players, practically all of those teams have many better players than us and the 9 other non-OF teams but the standard of football is awful and the amounts paid for some of these guys seems to be way, way over the top. Basically, Championship = SPL with more money, more teams and similar football. Think you have pretty much summed it up yourself my friend. What I would say though is that there are slightly better strikers down their in my book. Players like Beattie, Ebanks-blake, Doyle, Hulse, Earnshaw and Lita are all better strikers than the majority of SPL teams have at their disposal. When the SPL does produce a decent striker though, they seem to be able to score goals down their ala Mckormack, O'Conner and Kenny Miller before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 That's probably true. Watching Brum City v Coventry right now and Clinton Morrison, James McFadden, Cameron Jerome and Michael Mifsud are all way better than most SPL strikers. McFadden has been the best player on the park by miles and he was hardly a massive success in the prem. Birmingham have been terrible and McLeish just hasn't had a clue how to get them playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Weathers Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 How did that bawbag Beuzelin play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 He was ok, better than most of the hopeless wasters that played for Brum City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The Championship is all kick and rush. The standard of defending is pathetic. Just in case you have all already forgotten, Hearts easily defeated one of the promoted sides who are now riding high in the Premiership pre-season. Just because there are big crowds and big wages doesn't make it any good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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