missusm Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Why did the Hibs fans insist that Larry was lucky today? I thought he was awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red21 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Lucky not to see a red card is probably where they are coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Lucky not to see a red card is probably where they are coming from red card for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Why did the Hibs fans insist that Larry was lucky today? I thought he was awful! he's dead lucky. He gets 15k a week for doing nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Caught Jones with his studs up - could easily have been red if the ref had seen it. To be fair to Jones he didn't seem to make anything of it - good old honest British laddie - would have been different if it had been a cheating Lith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 yes he raked through on giraffe's knee at a challenge. jones glared at him, that was about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Begbie Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 yes he raked through on giraffe's knee at a challenge. jones glared at him, that was about it. Old Mr Potatohead on the hobos bench was pretty irate tho :107years: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I actually thought they were mildly amusing with this chant. It was Larry Kingston is a looky looky man pc brigade might not agree but slightly tickled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 what's the hoofballers take on.................. murrays jackie chan number on stewart if he caught him............ it was a leg breaker:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Old Mr Potatohead on the hobos bench was pretty irate tho :107years: yes he looked like a tomato. is he fat? you bet your hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 was it deliberate though? didn't look it to me. Fair play to Jones for not making a meal of it.....unlike when he whinges like a big girl about Zal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 was it deliberate though? didn't look it to me. Fair play to Jones for not making a meal of it.....unlike when he whinges like a big girl about Zal. definitely deliberate. good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca2 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I actually thought they were mildly amusing with this chant.It was Larry Kingston is a looky looky man pc brigade might not agree but slightly tickled me. Bamba played like he had the sunglasses on. oops...... Maybe he works for Larry.. Coat... :107years: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme an H... Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I actually thought they were mildly amusing with this chant.It was Larry Kingston is a looky looky man pc brigade might not agree but slightly tickled me. Shock horror. Another song the Hibs have adopted as their 'own'. Rangers fans sung this about Ronaldhino when they played Barca. Unimagineative *******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=132481 That's up there with the Skacel Refugee song IMO. But they'll continue to try and take the moral high ground about Hearts fans singing Hello Hello. Typical Hobo trailer trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 didn't Stewart do something similar to Murray. Murray respond a second later by going right though Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=132481 That's up there with the Skacel Refugee song IMO. But they'll continue to try and take the moral high ground about Hearts fans singing Hello Hello. Typical Hobo trailer trash. did anybody else hear the coo shed singing..... when nade went across there. fat eddie murphy...........yer a fat eddie murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Kingston "sells watches on a beach." "it's not racist" apparently. Well, it is racist and is yet another example of hibs support disgracing themselves, to add to the neverending list. http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=132481 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigTeam Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Kingston "sells watches on a beach." "it's not racist" apparently. Well, it is racist and is yet another example of hibs support disgracing themselves, to add to the neverending list. http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=132481 Half wits.Although our lot singing about Shiels is no better.Sooner all these idiots gtf the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 "Kingston is a Looky Looky man" No, not racist at all. Just like the Skacel Refugee chants weren't either. Yet these are the people that try and persaude people that the Hearts support is full of sectarian neanderthals. Fecking priceless that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Kingston "sells watches on a beach." "it's not racist" apparently. Well, it is racist and is yet another example of hibs support disgracing themselves, to add to the neverending list. http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=132481 How can they consider it "not racist"? FFS if we was white would the sing it? No, therefore they were targetting him because he is black, ****bags FTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 As the guy said, its more stereotyping. Probably wasnt been sung with the intention of it to be racist. But people take things different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ross Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I personally cannot state my hatred of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Relax. I'm sure the uber-anti-racist 'degenerated' is on the case as we speak.... goodnight white pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leisham38 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Hibs chants?? What are they talking about? Heard about one song all game, songs were coming from one end only. Na na na Maka-lamby na na na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bn jambo Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Probably wasnt been sung with the intention of it to be racist FFS are you having a laugh? intentional or not it's still racist!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 let's try not to be ridiculous, it's racist. racial stereotyping is racism, especially when it's as obvious as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 As the guy said, its more stereotyping. Probably wasnt been sung with the intention of it to be racist. But people take things different ways. I suspect I'll be in the minority, but I think you're spot on there Willie. To many people jump to conclusions about songs like this without properly understanding the definition of racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 let's try not to be ridiculous, it's racist. racial stereotyping is racism, especially when it's as obvious as that. Apparently, casual racism is acceptable and OK. Afterall we're the KKK, C18, BNP supporting team in Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missusm Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 "Kingston is a Looky Looky man" No, not racist at all. Just like the Skacel Refugee chants weren't either. Yet these are the people that try and persaude people that the Hearts support is full of sectarian neanderthals. Fecking priceless that lot. Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'looky, looky man'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Apparently, casual racism is acceptable and OK. Afterall we're the KKK, C18, BNP supporting team in Edinburgh. that would appear to be OUR stereotyping. t's a shame other factions can do as they damn well please and still find time to scream about the faults of others. hearts have their half-a-heids, hibs have theirs, all other teams have theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'looky, looky man'? The chap that'll offer to sell you 'designer' goods, found mostly on the Costa del Sol resorts of Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 'looky, looky man'? A black guy who sells cheap jewelery at holiday resorts, Ibiza etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I suspect I'll be in the minority, but I think you're spot on there Willie. To many people jump to conclusions about songs like this without properly understanding the definition of racism. You'll be in the minority because you're slavering utter garbage. Why did they sing this about Kingston? Because he's black. Racism, pure and simple. They sicken me, as do those who defend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouse Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 the chant may not be PC but it is "ALL HIBEES ARE GAY"? its a game of football, some fans have a drink, some smoke, some have bad breath, some sing songs and some say nasty things, its football. if you cant handle it dont go. on another note i thought the "your just a fat Eddie Murphy" chant to Nade was pretty funny;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Do they not realise they are insulting Thicot and Makalemby when they sing this pish? Aw look man that Kingston is black likesay, lets ****ing sing aboot him being a looky looky man likesay, aye, ken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 i posted this wee cracker for nade on the other thread. did anybody else hear the coo shed singing..... when nade went across there. fat eddie murphy...........yer a fat eddie murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 You'll be in the minority because you're slavering utter garbage. Why did they sing this about Kingston? Because he's black. Racism, pure and simple. They sicken me, as do those who defend them. And that's why I see it more as stereotyping, not as racism. By singing the song they did, exactly how did the Hibs fans infer that the members of other races are inferior to their own? Because that's what racism actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I heard a chant today from the guys in front of me which started a discussion about racism: To Ma-kalamby: "Are you Zibi with a tan". I didn't think it was racist but the people behind did. (I didn't sing the song BTW). Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Do they not realise they are insulting Thicot and Makalemby when they sing this pish? Aw look man that Kingston is black likesay, lets ****ing sing aboot him being a looky looky man likesay, aye, ken. Exactly. Singing about a players lack of footballing ability, ie. Thicot and Makalemby, is acceptable. Singing about a players racial steroetype is not. Zero tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo121 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I suspect I'll be in the minority, but I think you're spot on there Willie. To many people jump to conclusions about songs like this without properly understanding the definition of racism. Would thid definition do for you - a belief that human races have distinctive characteristics that determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one?s race is superior and has the right to control others. The songs they were singing are clearly racist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missusm Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 I heard a chant today from the guys in front of me which started a discussion about racism: To Ma-kalamby: "Are you Zibi with a tan". I didn't think it was racist but the people behind did. (I didn't sing the song BTW). Thoughts? I don't think that's rascist. I don't think calling Larry a 'looky looky man' is rascist either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Would thid definition do for you - a belief that human races have distinctive characteristics that determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one?s race is superior and has the right to control others. The songs they were singing are clearly racist!! The text highlighted in bold, to me, would constitute racism. Please explain to me exactly where that idea is conveyed in the chant in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I heard a chant today from the guys in front of me which started a discussion about racism: To Ma-kalamby: "Are you Zibi with a tan". I didn't think it was racist but the people behind did. (I didn't sing the song BTW). Thoughts? This doesnt seem racist to me ,one is white the other black its not racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bn jambo Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I heard a chant today from the guys in front of me which started a discussion about racism: To Ma-kalamby: "Are you Zibi with a tan". I didn't think it was racist but the people behind did. (I didn't sing the song BTW). Thoughts? inaccurate and racist zibi is a jambo kalamity is a hobo, the times they are a changing some people need to get with the times and definition of racist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 And that's why I see it more as stereotyping, not as racism. By singing the song they did, exactly how did the Hibs fans infer that the members of other races are inferior to their own? Because that's what racism actually is. Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race A stereotype is a generalized perception of first impressions: behaviours presumed by a group of people judging with the eyes/criticizing ones outer appearance to be associated with another specific group. Stereotypes, therefore, can instigate prejudice and false assumptions about entire groups of people, including the members of different ethnic groups. Aye, right you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 racial stereotyping is racism, it's not a convenient get-out clause to enable one to be racist. take your racist pesh to another club, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Out of interest, if we're talking racial stereotyping, do you get all hot and bothered when we're referred to as 'tight-fisted Jocks' or the likes? I don't, and I'm willing to bet that you don't either - yet surely, that could be classed as an example of racial stereotyping? I do, because it's racist. Are you tight? I'm not, and I don't see why I should be automatically considered so because of my nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
this_is_my_story Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race A stereotype is a generalized perception of first impressions: behaviours presumed by a group of people judging with the eyes/criticizing ones outer appearance to be associated with another specific group. Stereotypes, therefore, can instigate prejudice and false assumptions about entire groups of people, including the members of different ethnic groups. Aye, right you are. Instead of just copying and pasting, presumably from Wikipedia, could you attempt to answer the question? Not trying to get on your nerves, but could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I'm prepared to debate the point properly if you can refrain from posts like that! You didn't really answer the question that I asked in the post in which I first quoted your post. Out of interest, if we're talking racial stereotyping, do you get all hot and bothered when we're referred to as 'tight-fisted Jocks' or the likes? I don't, and I'm willing to bet that you don't either - yet surely, that could be classed as an example of racial stereotyping? If I.J. is correct in saying that stereotypically ****'s smell, in your eyes is he not being racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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