Bilderberg Conspiracy....:)

[coppercrutch]

A thread for a certain poster who may enjoy.

 

The Bilderberg group have been meeting since the 50's. Lost of mega conspiracies about why they meet and what they discuss. They always deny that any decisions or policies are made at their meeting. It is simply a forum for private discussion.

 

This is who attended this year apparently. (If Wikipedia details are correct)

 

List of US & UK representatives this year at Bilderberg meeting. Along with selected others.

 

 

• Prince of Netherlands
  
• Prince of Belgium
  
• Madeleine Albright (2008), former United States Secretary of State
  
• Keith B. Alexander (2008), current Director, National Security Agency
  
• Roger Altman (2008), former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Thomas A. Daschle (2008), former US Senator
  
• # Harold Ford, Jr. (2008), current Chairman, Democratic Leadership Council, former US Congressman, Vice Chairman, Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
  
• Robert Gates (2008), current United States Secretary of Defense
  
• Richard Holbrooke (1995 - 1999, 2004 - 2006, 2008), former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
  
• Henry Kissinger (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977-2003, 2004,[6] 2005-2008), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
  
• Henry M. Paulson, Jr. (2008), current United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Richard Perle (1983, 1985, 2003, 2006, 2008), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987
  
• Condoleezza Rice (2008), current United States Secretary of State
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Lawrence Summers (1998, 2002, 2008), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Vin Weber (2007, 2008), former US Congressman
  
• Paul Wolfowitz (1990, 1994-1998, 2008), former President of the World Bank
  
• Robert Zoellick (1991, 2003, 2006, 2008), former Deputy Secretary of State and current President of the World Bank
  
• John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard (2004, 2008), member of the House of Lords, Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
   
  +
   
  
• 4 EU Commissioners
  
• Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (2003, 2008), current Secretary General of NATO
  
• Josef Ackermann (2005, 2008), CEO of Deutsche Bank
  
• Ben S. Bernanke (2008), current Chairman of the Federal Reserve
  
• Mario Draghi (1994, 1995, 2004, 2008), current Governor of the Banca d'Italia
  
• Timothy F. Geithner (2004, 2008), current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
  
• Tom McKillop (2008), Chairman, The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  
• Jean-Claude Trichet (1995, 1999, 2008), current President of the European Central Bank
  
• James Wolfensohn (1985, 1987, 1988, 1989-1999, 2004, 2008), former President of the World Bank Group
  
• Klaus Kleinfeld (2008), CEO of Siemens AG
  
• Craig Mundie (2008), chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft
  
• Jorma Ollila (1997,[3] 2005, 2008), Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and Nokia Corporation
  
• Peter A. Thiel (2007, 2008), Co-Founder, PayPal
  
• Marie-Jos?e Kravis (1998, 1999, 2008), Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
  
• Barnett Rubin (2008), Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for International Cooperation
  
• Chester A. Crocker (2008), James R. Schlesinger Professor of Strategic Studies
  

 

Link to BBC blog on the matter.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

 

Whatever these people are discussing - if policies are not agreed at this meeting that affect us all - I am King Henry the Eighth....

[maroonlegions]

A thread for a certain poster who may enjoy.

 

The Bilderberg group have been meeting since the 50's. Lost of mega conspiracies about why they meet and what they discuss. They always deny that any decisions or policies are made at their meeting. It is simply a forum for private discussion.

 

This is who attended this year apparently. (If Wikipedia details are correct)

 

List of US & UK representatives this year at Bilderberg meeting. Along with selected others.

 

 

• Prince of Netherlands
  
• Prince of Belgium
  
• Madeleine Albright (2008), former United States Secretary of State
  
• Keith B. Alexander (2008), current Director, National Security Agency
  
• Roger Altman (2008), former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Thomas A. Daschle (2008), former US Senator
  
• # Harold Ford, Jr. (2008), current Chairman, Democratic Leadership Council, former US Congressman, Vice Chairman, Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
  
• Robert Gates (2008), current United States Secretary of Defense
  
• Richard Holbrooke (1995 - 1999, 2004 - 2006, 2008), former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
  
• Henry Kissinger (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977-2003, 2004,[6] 2005-2008), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
  
• Henry M. Paulson, Jr. (2008), current United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Richard Perle (1983, 1985, 2003, 2006, 2008), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987
  
• Condoleezza Rice (2008), current United States Secretary of State
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Lawrence Summers (1998, 2002, 2008), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Vin Weber (2007, 2008), former US Congressman
  
• Paul Wolfowitz (1990, 1994-1998, 2008), former President of the World Bank
  
• Robert Zoellick (1991, 2003, 2006, 2008), former Deputy Secretary of State and current President of the World Bank
  
• John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard (2004, 2008), member of the House of Lords, Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
   
  +
   
  
• 4 EU Commissioners
  
• Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (2003, 2008), current Secretary General of NATO
  
• Josef Ackermann (2005, 2008), CEO of Deutsche Bank
  
• Ben S. Bernanke (2008), current Chairman of the Federal Reserve
  
• Mario Draghi (1994, 1995, 2004, 2008), current Governor of the Banca d'Italia
  
• Timothy F. Geithner (2004, 2008), current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
  
• Tom McKillop (2008), Chairman, The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  
• Jean-Claude Trichet (1995, 1999, 2008), current President of the European Central Bank
  
• James Wolfensohn (1985, 1987, 1988, 1989-1999, 2004, 2008), former President of the World Bank Group
  
• Klaus Kleinfeld (2008), CEO of Siemens AG
  
• Craig Mundie (2008), chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft
  
• Jorma Ollila (1997,[3] 2005, 2008), Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and Nokia Corporation
  
• Peter A. Thiel (2007, 2008), Co-Founder, PayPal
  
• Marie-Jos?e Kravis (1998, 1999, 2008), Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
  
• Barnett Rubin (2008), Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for International Cooperation
  
• Chester A. Crocker (2008), James R. Schlesinger Professor of Strategic Studies
  

 

Link to BBC blog on the matter.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

 

Whatever these people are discussing - if policies are not agreed at this meeting that affect us all - I am King Henry the Eighth....

 

was going to post that myself but you beat me to it(how dare you;)), hang on to your hat and keep the beer safe , wonder if you will be ridiculed but good men always try to rise above it, good find there,there have been many meetings of these brethren and i think its no coincident that a lot of heads of states and merchant bankers go there .

 

 

aul Wolfowitz (1990, 1994-1998, 2008), former President of the World Bank now this dude is pushing for a world currency , wonder why.

[Bigsmak]

Thought I would see your name on the list CopperCrutch

 

[Victorian]

A thread for a certain poster who may enjoy.

 

The Bilderberg group have been meeting since the 50's. Lost of mega conspiracies about why they meet and what they discuss. They always deny that any decisions or policies are made at their meeting. It is simply a forum for private discussion.

 

This is who attended this year apparently. (If Wikipedia details are correct)

 

List of US & UK representatives this year at Bilderberg meeting. Along with selected others.

 

 

• Prince of Netherlands
  
• Prince of Belgium
  
• Madeleine Albright (2008), former United States Secretary of State
  
• Keith B. Alexander (2008), current Director, National Security Agency
  
• Roger Altman (2008), former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Thomas A. Daschle (2008), former US Senator
  
• # Harold Ford, Jr. (2008), current Chairman, Democratic Leadership Council, former US Congressman, Vice Chairman, Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
  
• Robert Gates (2008), current United States Secretary of Defense
  
• Richard Holbrooke (1995 - 1999, 2004 - 2006, 2008), former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
  
• Henry Kissinger (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977-2003, 2004,[6] 2005-2008), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
  
• Henry M. Paulson, Jr. (2008), current United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Richard Perle (1983, 1985, 2003, 2006, 2008), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987
  
• Condoleezza Rice (2008), current United States Secretary of State
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Lawrence Summers (1998, 2002, 2008), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Vin Weber (2007, 2008), former US Congressman
  
• Paul Wolfowitz (1990, 1994-1998, 2008), former President of the World Bank
  
• Robert Zoellick (1991, 2003, 2006, 2008), former Deputy Secretary of State and current President of the World Bank
  
• John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard (2004, 2008), member of the House of Lords, Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
   
  +
   
  
• 4 EU Commissioners
  
• Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (2003, 2008), current Secretary General of NATO
  
• Josef Ackermann (2005, 2008), CEO of Deutsche Bank
  
• Ben S. Bernanke (2008), current Chairman of the Federal Reserve
  
• Mario Draghi (1994, 1995, 2004, 2008), current Governor of the Banca d'Italia
  
• Timothy F. Geithner (2004, 2008), current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
  
• Tom McKillop (2008), Chairman, The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  
• Jean-Claude Trichet (1995, 1999, 2008), current President of the European Central Bank
  
• James Wolfensohn (1985, 1987, 1988, 1989-1999, 2004, 2008), former President of the World Bank Group
  
• Klaus Kleinfeld (2008), CEO of Siemens AG
  
• Craig Mundie (2008), chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft
  
• Jorma Ollila (1997,[3] 2005, 2008), Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and Nokia Corporation
  
• Peter A. Thiel (2007, 2008), Co-Founder, PayPal
  
• Marie-Jos?e Kravis (1998, 1999, 2008), Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
  
• Barnett Rubin (2008), Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for International Cooperation
  
• Chester A. Crocker (2008), James R. Schlesinger Professor of Strategic Studies
  

 

Link to BBC blog on the matter.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

 

Whatever these people are discussing - if policies are not agreed at this meeting that affect us all - I am King Henry the Eighth....

into your Iluminati conspiracies 'coppercrutch'?

 

it will drive you mental fella.

[maroonlegions]

check this copper crunch, fecking mental but interesting if i may add

 

 

Secrets of the Bilderberg

 

One-World Altruist or the most Pernicious Cabal of the Twentieth Century?

Barry Robson investigates

 

Bilderberg Group, so called because of their first meeting in May 1954 at the Bilderberg Hotel, near Arnhem in Holland, are, according to the Christian US based Jeremiah Project:

 

�Shrewd and calculating, their hearts are filled with lust for power and consumed with greed for money. Rich and aristocratic, they despise Christians and they loathe the lowly working class. They control the world�s press and virtually all our banks and financial institutions. They screen and choose who America�s leaders will be and even determine who will run on the Democratic and Republican Parties� tickets.

 

�Arrogantly, they plot the subversion and take-over of constitutional governments everywhere. Their goal is a World Government run exclusively by their hand picked puppets.�1

 

On the other hand to some, a world government might just be a better alternative to the nationalist strife and religious fundamentalism that has belaboured our planet for the last millennium. One thing is sure; the Bilderbergers represent the most wealthy and powerful establishment of every Western nation. They include royalty, executives of multinational corporations, leading statesmen, ex-military top brass and other elite influence peddlers. Their meetings, which take place at a different venue every year, go unannounced, their speeches unreported and their decisions unrecorded. This seems like the Mother of all Conspiracies and it�s been going on a long, long time.

 

The great conspiracy apparently goes back to the eighteenth century when one Adam Weishaupt, who greatly admired the teachings of Plato, formed a secret fraternity called the Illuminati :eek:in Bavaria based loosely on the lines of the Freemasons. They claimed superior knowledge and access to the revealed truths about the world. This was all to be used to elevate the human race to a brotherhood above fratricidal squabbling.

 

John Ruskin the noted English social critic and philosopher, revived these ideals in the 1870s through his teachings and writings at Oxford. He wanted to motivate the upper classes to use their education, breeding and money to �civilise� the world. Cecil Rhodes the founder of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) and South African diamond millionaire, who was a devoted disciple of Ruskin used his fortune to promote this grand scheme of federating the English speaking peoples around the globe and bringing all of it under their �benign� imperial control.

 

To this end Rhodes and other acolytes of Ruskin, formed a secret society known as the Round Table Group in 1881. This group of academics, dreamers and aristocrats were able to gain access to Rhodes� fortune after his death in 1902. Under the trusteeship of Lord Milner, another arch-imperialist, they sought to spread and carry out the ambitions that Rhodes derived from Ruskin.

 

 

John Ruskin, together with Cecil Rhodes, formed a secret society in 1881 known as The Round Table Group

 

 

 

Milner was Governor-General of South Africa between 1897-1905 and used his contacts to recruit a group of young men, chiefly from the intellectual elites of Oxford and Cambridge to assist him in fulfilling his dreams. These men were able to win important posts in government and international finance and became the dominant influence in British imperial and foreign affairs up to the Second World War. They were originally known as �Milner�s Kindergarten� and after 1910 organised confidential, exclusive gatherings known as Round Table Groups, in the English speaking Empire and in the United States.

 

 

Cecil Rhodes

 

 

 

After the turmoil of the First World War and the triumph of the Anglo-Saxon West, it was at the Majestic Hotel in Paris during the peace conferences that the Round Table Groups emerged from their cloak of secrecy and officially became the US Council on Foreign Relations and the UK Royal Institute for International Affairs.

 

This evolution, in the opinion of the Liberty Lobby, another Christian ultra-conservative pressure group, based in Washington DC, was the beginning of what they call a Jewish-communist conspiracy to rule the planet by way of a �New World Order� whose eventual goal is one world government - a sort of apocalyptic marriage between the Communist Manifesto and the fake Protocols of the Elders of Zion, (a supposed Judaic scheme to dominate the human race). The Bilderbergers are, according to the Liberty Lobby, direct descendants of the �Satanic-Marxist� Illuminati, the Round Tables and the two subsequent foreign-relations organisations.

 

The �Bible� of the conspiracy theorists is a book written in 1966 called �Tragedy and Hope� by the late Dr Carroll Quigley, a distinguished professor at Georgetown University�s School of Foreign Service. In it he detailed how the complex financial and commercial relations between the major powers, especially the British and Americans, before 1914 influenced today�s global markets. Quigley used his book as the text of his courses on western civilisation at the University.

 

The book has become very hard to locate. Quigley had trouble getting it published; the original plates disappeared and the banking authorities and the higher echelons of finance voiced their displeasure about its revealing contents. Quigley himself once remarked how his academic career in government institutions had been stunted because of the book. It is for these reasons that �Tragedy and Hope� became the Holy Grail of the conspiracy theorists, much to Quigley�s annoyance, who disparaged its revelations claiming it was just the sort of book any assiduous researcher could produce. The publication is for sale though mail order book clubs that specialise in the world of paranoia.

 

The Bilderberger meetings were the brainchild of the remarkable Pole Dr. Joseph Retinger. He was according to Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands an extraordinary character who flitted through fifty years of European history on close terms with prime ministers, trade unionists, industrial magnates, artists, intellectuals and even committed revolutionaries. His address book of intimates and confidants read like a Who�s Who of international Movers and Shakers. He was born in 1888 of gentry parents in pre First World War Krakow, then part of Austrian Poland. He went to the Sorbonne in Paris to complete his education and was soon part of the city�s literary and artistic circles. He was a fierce Polish patriot and this made him more than unpopular with the Germans and Austrians, who during World War One put a price on his head.

 

His machinations on behalf of the Polish people got him banned from London and jailed in the USA (he carried an enemy passport). These experiences sharpened his skills for both intrigue and diplomacy. He moved to England after the War and found entr�e into the political circles that included Herbert Asquith and Lord Balfour.

 

there is more i will post the link , better polish off my last beer at the same time, feck multi tasking the wife would be speechless:rolleyes:.

[maroonlegions]

ha, done it and never spilt a drop:), here is a good link my good manhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html#background, it better work.

[King of the North]

into your Iluminati conspiracies 'coppercrutch'?

 

it will drive you mental fella.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

 

This is what you want.

 

World leaders dancing round a 50 foot high 'satanic' effigy?

 

Bohemian Grove...

 

 

Incredibly, it's not made up.

 

 

We're doomed I tells you

[Carl Spackler]

Bilderberg is actually a ruse. Whilst the media's attention is diverted JFK, Elvis, Lord Lucon, Margeret Thatcher (the real immortal one not the fake withering robot version we all know now), John Lennon and Shergar meet at the North Pole where they each re-program the Supercomputer that controls the worlds stock markets, media and the internet.

 

The supercomputer is identical to the one that Richard Pryor built in Superman III.

 

If anyone asks I didn't tell you.

 

Seriously though I don't see anything wrong with the group. In fact I think it's healthy that it can exist. As the FT journalist Martin Wolf says in the BBC article if it were not then we would be living in a Totalitarian state.

[Deek]

Where is the complete Idiot anyway? He appears to have disappeared off the planet.

[maroonlegions]

ha, done it and never spilt a drop:), here is a good link my good manhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html#background, it better work.

 

 

 

fecking pants it didnae , so here it is hopefully., sorry copper http://www.prisonplanet.com/invisible_power_house.html

[maroonlegions]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

 

This is what you want.

 

World leaders dancing round a 50 foot high 'satanic' effigy?

 

Bohemian Grove...

 

 

Incredibly, it's not made up.

 

 

We're doomed I tells you

 

 

 

well found and here is more http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/011206_bohemian.html:eek::107years:

[Malinga the Swinga]

A thread for a certain poster who may enjoy.

 

The Bilderberg group have been meeting since the 50's. Lost of mega conspiracies about why they meet and what they discuss. They always deny that any decisions or policies are made at their meeting. It is simply a forum for private discussion.

 

This is who attended this year apparently. (If Wikipedia details are correct)

 

List of US & UK representatives this year at Bilderberg meeting. Along with selected others.

 

 

• Prince of Netherlands
  
• Prince of Belgium
  
• Madeleine Albright (2008), former United States Secretary of State
  
• Keith B. Alexander (2008), current Director, National Security Agency
  
• Roger Altman (2008), former United States Deputy Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Thomas A. Daschle (2008), former US Senator
  
• # Harold Ford, Jr. (2008), current Chairman, Democratic Leadership Council, former US Congressman, Vice Chairman, Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
  
• Robert Gates (2008), current United States Secretary of Defense
  
• Richard Holbrooke (1995 - 1999, 2004 - 2006, 2008), former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
  
• Henry Kissinger (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977-2003, 2004,[6] 2005-2008), Secretary of State, 1973 - 1977
  
• Henry M. Paulson, Jr. (2008), current United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Richard Perle (1983, 1985, 2003, 2006, 2008), assistant Secretary of Defense, 1981 - 1987
  
• Condoleezza Rice (2008), current United States Secretary of State
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Mark Sanford (2008), current Governor of South Carolina,
  
• Lawrence Summers (1998, 2002, 2008), former United States Secretary of the Treasury
  
• Vin Weber (2007, 2008), former US Congressman
  
• Paul Wolfowitz (1990, 1994-1998, 2008), former President of the World Bank
  
• Robert Zoellick (1991, 2003, 2006, 2008), former Deputy Secretary of State and current President of the World Bank
  
• John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard (2004, 2008), member of the House of Lords, Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
   
  +
   
  
• 4 EU Commissioners
  
• Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (2003, 2008), current Secretary General of NATO
  
• Josef Ackermann (2005, 2008), CEO of Deutsche Bank
  
• Ben S. Bernanke (2008), current Chairman of the Federal Reserve
  
• Mario Draghi (1994, 1995, 2004, 2008), current Governor of the Banca d'Italia
  
• Timothy F. Geithner (2004, 2008), current President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
  
• Tom McKillop (2008), Chairman, The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  
• Jean-Claude Trichet (1995, 1999, 2008), current President of the European Central Bank
  
• James Wolfensohn (1985, 1987, 1988, 1989-1999, 2004, 2008), former President of the World Bank Group
  
• Klaus Kleinfeld (2008), CEO of Siemens AG
  
• Craig Mundie (2008), chief research and strategy officer at Microsoft
  
• Jorma Ollila (1997,[3] 2005, 2008), Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell and Nokia Corporation
  
• Peter A. Thiel (2007, 2008), Co-Founder, PayPal
  
• Marie-Jos?e Kravis (1998, 1999, 2008), Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute
  
• Barnett Rubin (2008), Director of Studies and Senior Fellow, Center for International Cooperation
  
• Chester A. Crocker (2008), James R. Schlesinger Professor of Strategic Studies
  

 

Link to BBC blog on the matter.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

 

Whatever these people are discussing - if policies are not agreed at this meeting that affect us all - I am King Henry the Eighth....

 

Now i am not one for conspiracy theories, and I am sure they just have a right good party when they meet, but the fact that these things are unreported to the general public, and that no speeches are released for general view, does make me think, that if I was a cynic, that we are all screwed and that these people have our fates already decided.

 

To quote for Mr Mulder, The Truth is out There.

[Victorian]

if ye's want a right ripping yarn about government sponsored control of the masses, a new world order and all manner of other conspiracy theories... get a gander at a copy of a book called 'alternative 3' by leslie watkins. it's bonkers.

[maroonlegions]

Bilderberg is actually a ruse. Whilst the media's attention is diverted JFK, Elvis, Lord Lucon, Margeret Thatcher (the real immortal one not the fake withering robot version we all know now), John Lennon and Shergar meet at the North Pole where they each re-program the Supercomputer that controls the worlds stock markets, media and the internet.

 

The supercomputer is identical to the one that Richard Pryor built in Superman III.

 

If anyone asks I didn't tell you.

 

Seriously though I don't see anything wrong with the group. In fact I think it's healthy that it can exist. As the FT journalist Martin Wolf says in the BBC article if it were not then we would be living in a Totalitarian state.

 

 

 

fair point and i do respect your view but there is one thing that has been bugging me about them , WHY DO THEY WANT TO CENTRALISE EVERY THING from banks to governments is it not because to CENTRALISE these things means total control of most aspects of our life's , easy to control the world if you CENTRALISE THE DECISION MAKING into a few UNELECTED chosen BRETHREN:eek:.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

Old "one eyebrow" Dennis Healey attended a Bilderberg conference once.

 

The idea of Mr "tax the rich until the pips squeak" Healey being invited to join a major conspiracy is hilarious!

 

Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy?

[deesidejambo]

fair point and i do respect your view but there is one thing that has been bugging me about them , WHY DO THEY WANT TO CENTRALISE EVERY THING from banks to governments is it not because to CENTRALISE these things means total control of most aspects of our life's , easy to control the world if you CENTRALISE THE DECISION MAKING into a few UNELECTED chosen BRETHREN:eek:.

 

ML be careful. You are getting too close to the truth and they will act. Do some research and you may find that they are closer than you think, and they can easily identify you.

[maroonlegions]

Old "one eyebrow" Dennis Healey attended a Bilderberg conference once.

 

The idea of Mr "tax the rich until the pips squeak" Healey being invited to join a major conspiracy is hilarious!

 

Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy?

 

now there is more than meets the brow ( eh eye) with Mr Healey there has been some research by certain people on him and it paints an entirely different picture of him , easy to create a smoke screen , be it a person or credit crunch:rolleyes: and blend them into the fold but like the Masons, the 62 degrees Scottish rite is the highest any Mason can go above, the higher degrees contain certain bloodlines , not entirely impossible.

[maroonlegions]

ML be careful. You are getting too close to the truth and they will act. Do some research and you may find that they are closer than you think, and they can easily identify you.

:eek:

 

feck , i mean no offence but why are you concerned about my well being , surely another conspiracy dude going doon the bog would be a laugh , but thanks anyway, next it will be CANCER MAN from the Xfiles sending me an xmass card.:eek:

[Carl Spackler]

fair point and i do respect your view but there is one thing that has been bugging me about them , WHY DO THEY WANT TO CENTRALISE EVERY THING from banks to governments is it not because to CENTRALISE these things means total control of most aspects of our life's , easy to control the world if you CENTRALISE THE DECISION MAKING into a few UNELECTED chosen BRETHREN:eek:.

 

Who is "they" and how do you know they want to centralise everything? Just because ideas on how things should be done have common elements throughout political systems and countries cultures does not mean that control is centralised.

 

Globalisation of companies has intrinsically linked things sure but that is inevitable. Only if there were coordinated global powers could this be avoided. Most countries choose to let the money in.

 

There are probably more countries in Europe now than there's ever been. Granted they are all part of a Union these days however.

 

We have a major political party in Britain (one of the winners in the last World War) that wants Britain to be divided up.

 

Seems an awful lot of bother to go to to cover up the real story don't you think?

 

I am free. You are free ( I think!). What's the problem?

 

BTW I personally think I pay too much tax but that's another story.

[Say What Again]

WOW!

 

Look at all the pretty bullet points!

[deesidejambo]

:eek:

 

feck , i mean no offence but why are you concerned about my well being , surely another conspiracy dude going doon the bog would be a laugh , but thanks anyway, next it will be CANCER MAN from the Xfiles sending me an xmass card.:eek:

 

I just don't want my favourite conspiracy theorist to suddenly dissapear. It will be a great loss to this board as you stimulate lots of debate, most of which is tosh (apart from the pulsed ion-drive one from a few weeks ago).

 

Take a really close look at the list of Bilderberg guys and you may think again about these threads.

[maroonlegions]

Who is "they" and how do you know they want to centralise everything? Just because ideas on how things should be done have common elements throughout political systems and countries cultures does not mean that control is centralised.

 

Globalisation of companies has intrinsically linked things sure but that is inevitable. Only if there were coordinated global powers could this be avoided. Most countries choose to let the money in.

 

There are probably more countries in Europe now than there's ever been. Granted they are all part of a Union these days however.

 

We have a major political party in Britain (one of the winners in the last World War) that wants Britain to be divided up.

 

Seems an awful lot of bother to go to to cover up the real story don't you think?

 

I am free. You are free ( I think!). What's the problem?

 

BTW I personally think I pay too much tax but that's another story.

 

 

 

Secret Bilderberg Agenda To Microchip Americans Leaked

Elitists want to microchip Americans in name of fighting terrorism, Europeans universally opposed to attack on Iran, Globalists fear oil prices rising too quickly

 

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Tuesday, June 10, 2008

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Sources from inside the 2008 Bilderberg meeting have leaked the details of what elitists were discussing in Chantilly Virginia last week and the talking points were ominous - a plan to microchip Americans under the pretext of fighting terrorist groups which will be identified as blonde haired, blue eyed westerners.

 

Veteran Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker relies on sources who regularly attend Bilderberg as aides and assistants but who are not Bilderberg members themselves. The information they provided this year is bone-chilling for those who have tracked the development of the plan to make the general public consider implanted microchips as a convenience as routine as credit cards.

 

"Under the heading of resisting terrorism there were points made about how the terrorist organizations are recruiting people who do not look like terrorists - blonde, blue eyed boys - they're searching hard for those types to become the new mad bombers," said Tucker.

 

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As we have documented, the blue eyed blonde haired Al-Qaeda line is a familiar talking point that has been pushed on Fox News and within other Neo-Con circles in an attempt to turn the anti-terror apparatus around to target dissidents, protesters and the American people in general.

 

Ominously, Tucker's source also told him that Bilderberg were discussing the microchipping of humans on a mass scale, which would be introduced under the pretext of fighting terrorism whereby the "good guys" would be allowed to travel freely from airports so long as their microchip could be scanned and the information stored in a database.

 

Tucker said the idea was also sold on the basis that it would help hospital staff treat a patient in an emergency situation because a scan of the chip would provide instantaneous access to health details.

 

Tucker underscored that Bilderberg were talking about subdermally implanted chips and not merely RFID chips contained in clothing. The discussion took place in a main conference hall and was part of the agenda, not an off-hand remark in the hotel bar.

 

Such a bizarre concept may seem unbelievable to some, but over the last ten years there have been dozens of examples of people accepting implanted chips for a variety of different reasons.

 

In 2004, Mexico's attorney general and 160 of his office staff were implanted with tracker chips to control access to to secure areas of their headquarters.

 

The Baja Beach Club in Barcelona and other nightclubs around the world are already offering implantable chips to customers who want to pay for drinks with the wave of a hand and also get access to VIP areas of the club lounge.

 

Bilderberg skeptical of attack on Iran

 

Tucker's source told him that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates did attend Bilderberg despite him not appearing on the official list.

 

Tucker said that his sources told him Gates was in attendance to present his case for war with Iran, but that the majority of Bilderberg members were against an attack at this time.

 

"The Europeans were generally opposed to an invasion of Iran - Gates made the regular war propaganda drill about how Iran is a nuclear threat to everybody," said Tucker, adding that European Bilderbergers made snide comments about where such nuclear weapons actually were being kept and at one point joking that they were possibly "in Saddam Hussein's tomb".

 

Despite Bilderberg opposition, Tucker said that the administration was still considering an attack before Bush leaves office in January.

 

"At least 90 per cent of the Europeans oppose a war, probably closer to 100 per cent," said Tucker, adding, "most of the Americans were passive and deferential to the Secretary of Defense and Condoleezza Rice's pitch in so far as Iran is concerned".

 

Tucker said that most Americans present at the meeting were opposed to attacking Iran but dare not be as visible and loud in their opposition as the Europeans.

 

Energy and oil prices

 

"One of the Bilderberg boys raised this question - should we put a lid on the rise in oil prices, are we reaching the point of diminishing returns," said Tucker, adding that Bilderberg noted how Americans were trading in their SUV's in record numbers for small and more fuel efficient cars and using more public transport to combat high gas prices.

 

Tucker's source said that Bilderberg were predicting $5 for a gallon of gas by the end of this summer and oil over $150 dollars a barrel, but that this was a ceiling and oil prices would probably begin to decline thereafter because they thought the acceleration had happened too quickly.

 

As we previously reported, Bilderberg called for oil prices to soar in 2005 when oil was a mere $40 a barrel.

 

During the conference in Germany, Henry Kissinger told his fellow attendees that the elite had resolved to ensure that oil prices would double over the course of the next 12-24 months, which is exactly what happened.

 

During their 2006 meeting in Ottawa Canada, Bilderberg agreed to push for $105 a barrel before the end of 2008. With that target having been smashed months ago, the acceleration towards $150 is outstripping even Bilderberg's goal, which is why the elitists expressed a desire to cool prices at least in the short term.

 

Just two days after he left Bilderberg, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, George W. Bush and others expressed support for a strong dollar and Bernanke hinted that interest rates could rise, which immediately caused oil prices to drop in line with Bilderberg's consensus.

 

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well if you wanted to hide you real agenda would you not like to be known as "they", CENTRALISATION more effective in controlling nations and decision making (fact), HEADS of the European Union COULD BE UNELECTED , WHY, easy to put 2 and 2 together there is it not.

[Carl Spackler]

 

well if you wanted to hide you real agenda would you not like to be known as "they", CENTRALISATION more effective in controlling nations and decision making (fact), HEADS of the European Union COULD BE UNELECTED , WHY, easy to put 2 and 2 together there is it not.

I don't really understand what you are saying here. You are certainly very skilled at putting 2 and 2 together though. Most people just get four. I'm glad you know the REAL answer.

[maroonlegions]

micro chips eh, they are doing it to animals now so WHY DO WE NEED IT , could it be that they see us as just fecking CATTLE. AWE feck this iama way to put the BIG CUP SEMI ON AND CHEER MYSELF UP, see iam human not a fecking animal:evil:

[coppercrutch]

into your Iluminati conspiracies 'coppercrutch'?

 

it will drive you mental fella.

 

Just finding them a little more interesting these days. A fair few of the mental theories these loonies have been ranting about for ages seem to be well, maybe not so loony...

 

No point worrying about it though. All fun to speculate.

 

Where is the complete Idiot anyway? He appears to have disappeared off the planet.

 

 

Maybe he knew too much....

 

Now i am not one for conspiracy theories, and I am sure they just have a right good party when they meet, but the fact that these things are unreported to the general public, and that no speeches are released for general view, does make me think, that if I was a cynic, that we are all screwed and that these people have our fates already decided.

 

To quote for Mr Mulder, The Truth is out There.

 

That is the thing that gets me too. All these massively powerful organisations out there. Meeting regularly. Never making any decisions or policy.

 

Yet the vast majority will never have heard of them. Seems very strange to say the least.

 

CFR, BIS, Bildebergers etc...

 

Go up to a person in the street and say those three names to them. How many people would even know one of them ? One in twenty maybe ?

 

Why are these groups kept so under the radar ? Not secret maybe. But they may as well be for 95% of people out there.

 

Anyway as for Complete Idiot. Maybe he has been brainwashed and returned as maroonlegions to capture the next group of victims...

 

MaroonLegions - please spare me.

[Ulysses]

 

Go up to a person in the street and say those three names to them. How many people would even know one of them ? One in twenty maybe ?

 

Why are these groups kept so under the radar ? Not secret maybe. But they may as well be for 95% of people out there.

 

 

Did you not say somewhere else that the general public are stupid?

 

It's not as if the Bilderberg "Group" hides itself. I've even met some of the people who have attended over the years. They're nice people, and some of them are quite influential in their own way, but if I wanted to run a major conspiracy I wouldn't be asking them to get involved.

 

You could say likewise about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

 

Maybe they should all invite a few celebs along and spark a bit of public interest.

[maroonlegions]

Did you not say somewhere else that the general public are stupid?

 

It's not as if the Bilderberg "Group" hides itself. I've even met some of the people who have attended over the years. They're nice people, and some of them are quite influential in their own way, but if I wanted to run a major conspiracy I wouldn't be asking them to get involved.

 

You could say likewise about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

 

Maybe they should all invite a few celebs along and spark a bit of public interest.

 

Morning all:o, fecking hangover on a Thursday , my view is that the real powers at be ware different masks to hide behind and Bilderberg and the CFR are the main ones that they influence from behind the smoke screen, the names might change on the doors but they are always in control , puppets playing to the real masters is a possibility.

[Guest GhostHunter]

Morning all:o, fecking hangover on a Thursday , my view is that the real powers at be ware different masks to hide behind and Bilderberg and the CFR are the main ones that they influence from behind the smoke screen, the names might change on the doors but they are always in control , puppets playing to the real masters is a possibility.

 

And, you thought Administrators of JKB were Jambos....

 

Ha.

 

I'm posting this from a black car, parked right outside your house.

 

Don't bother packing, you won't need anything where you're going.

 

Oh, and PS - The boys from Pine Gap - they say, "Hi".

[Boris]

Jon Ronson wrote about this a few years ago

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/10/features.weekend

 

Jon Ronson: Them

 

Worth a read.

[Carl Spackler]

Jon Ronson wrote about this a few years ago

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/10/features.weekend

 

Jon Ronson: Them

 

Worth a read.

He did the book about the American Black Opps and the man who could stare at a goat and kill it too didn't he? That book was good too. I can't remember what it was called but I read it a few years ago.

[Boof]

Thought I would see your name on the list CopperCrutch

 

 

Do you know for sure that it isn't....?

[hmfc_steve]

Just finding them a little more interesting these days. A fair few of the mental theories these loonies have been ranting about for ages seem to be well, maybe not so loony...

 

No point worrying about it though. All fun to speculate.

 

 

 

 

Maybe he knew too much....

 

 

 

That is the thing that gets me too. All these massively powerful organisations out there. Meeting regularly. Never making any decisions or policy.

 

Yet the vast majority will never have heard of them. Seems very strange to say the least.

 

CFR, BIS, Bildebergers etc...

 

Go up to a person in the street and say those three names to them. How many people would even know one of them ? One in twenty maybe ?

 

Why are these groups kept so under the radar ? Not secret maybe. But they may as well be for 95% of people out there.

 

Anyway as for Complete Idiot. Maybe he has been brainwashed and returned as maroonlegions to capture the next group of victims...

 

MaroonLegions - please spare me.

 

luvvin yer maths

[coppercrutch]

Did you not say somewhere else that the general public are stupid?

 

It's not as if the Bilderberg "Group" hides itself. I've even met some of the people who have attended over the years. They're nice people, and some of them are quite influential in their own way, but if I wanted to run a major conspiracy I wouldn't be asking them to get involved.

 

You could say likewise about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

 

Maybe they should all invite a few celebs along and spark a bit of public interest.

 

Serious question. Do you believe the general public are not stupid ?

 

(We are talking econonomics, financial system, politics etc.. here. )

 

On these grounds I do think the vast majority are stupid. They are drip fed diluted pointless news about 6 months after the fact. They don't bother to actually do any reading themselves to think for themsleves. I would class that as stupidity.

 

I am sure there are many areas where I am 'stupid' by simply believing what I am told. However financials and all that nonsense is not one of them. They are such an importasnt part of everyones day to day lives that I really think the ignorance is astounding.

 

Do you not find it worrying how little people actually know when it comes to this subject ? Not even coming form the 'conspiracy' side of things either.

 

luvvin yer maths

 

Just making a point. You know what I mean.

 

Edited to add - Just realised my maths were pretty good and I wasn't even counting

[Carl Spackler]

Serious question. Do you believe the general public are not stupid ?

 

(We are talking econonomics, financial system, politics etc.. here. )

 

On these grounds I do think the vast majority are stupid. They are drip fed diluted pointless news about 6 months after the fact. They don't bother to actually do any reading themselves to think for themsleves. I would class that as stupidity.

 

I am sure there are many areas where I am 'stupid' by simply believing what I am told. However financials and all that nonsense is not one of them. They are such an importasnt part of everyones day to day lives that I really think the ignorance is astounding.

 

Do you not find it worrying how little people actually know when it comes to this subject ? Not even coming form the 'conspiracy' side of things either.

 

 

 

Just making a point. You know what I mean.

 

Edited to add - Just realised my maths were pretty good and I wasn't even counting

People are too busy looking after number one than to be concerning themselves with the wider mechanics of the global economy. This will never change and somebody must always lead. That's what governments are for, looking after the public interest.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

For leaked, read, made up.

[coppercrutch]

People are too busy looking after number one than to be concerning themselves with the wider mechanics of the global economy. This will never change and somebody must always lead. That's what governments are for, looking after the public interest.

 

That is the problem...

 

Most things every person in this country does every day are controlled by the global economy.

 

Pretty much everything. Scary but true.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

That is the problem...

 

Most things every person in this country does every day are controlled by the global economy.

 

Pretty much everything. Scary but true.

 

Shut up ya crackpot!

 

Oh no, the aliens are coming.

[Boris]

That is the problem...

 

Most things every person in this country does every day are controlled by the global economy.

 

Pretty much everything. Scary but true.

 

Hence why Western Liberal Democracy is a sham and Marxism is the true salvation of the World.

 

[deesidejambo]

Hence why Western Liberal Democracy is a sham and Marxism is the true salvation of the World.

 

 

Didn't someone once say - "Capitalism is exploitation of the people by the people, and Marxism is the other way round".

[coppercrutch]

For leaked, read, made up.

 

Don't think any of this stuff is made up SUSS.

 

There are photos on the web of numerous of these people entering and leaving. You can apparently get an attendee list as well if you phone up and ask. They started issuing these in 2004 according to that BBC story.

 

The fact that all these people meet up and it is not even mentioned on any large news channel is enough to warrant suspicion IMO...

[Boris]

Didn't someone once say - "Capitalism is exploitation of the people by the people, and Marxism is the other way round".

 

Never trust what a dissident voice in a Gulag says.

[coppercrutch]

Shut up ya crackpot!

 

Oh no, the aliens are coming.

 

Crackpot !!

 

Have a think about it:

 

 

Are the following controlled by the World economy and finance ?

 

Filling you car up with petrol - YES

Buying a pint - YES

Getting a lapdance - YES

Going to a football game - YES

Getting a job - YES

Buying an orange - YES

 

In fact I can think of little that is not controlled in some way by the World economy.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

Crackpot !!

 

Have a think about it:

 

 

Are the following controlled by the World economy and finance ?

 

Filling you car up with petrol - YES

Buying a pint - YES

Getting a lapdance - YES

Going to a football game - YES

Getting a job - YES

Buying an orange - YES

 

In fact I can think of little that is not controlled in some way by the World economy.

 

The fact you have joined the redneck brigade and started posting consipracys in my eyes you have lost any and all credibility.

 

How come aliens only seem to abuct buck tooth inbreds from ****water indiana?

 

OOOOOOOOoooooogi Boooooooooooooogi Woooooooooogi

 

Are you Mudler or Sulky?

 

Any more of this crap and im passing on your ticket to someone else!

[deesidejambo]

Crackpot !!

 

Have a think about it:

 

 

Are the following controlled by the World economy and finance ?

 

Filling you car up with petrol - YES

Buying a pint - YES

Getting a lapdance - YES

Going to a football game - YES

Getting a job - YES

Buying an orange - YES

 

In fact I can think of little that is not controlled in some way by the World economy.

 

Bolx. Of course there is a world economy, but that doesn't mean control. In fact it is the opposite - a free world economy means open competition and less opportunity for "control". That is why you can (if you want) buy a set of golf clubs from a shop in the USA via the internet if it is cheaper than here. If you remove the global economy you are then at the mercy of your own local economy, with less choice, and higher prices.

[Guest Roop]

Did you not say somewhere else that the general public are stupid?

 

It's not as if the Bilderberg "Group" hides itself. I've even met some of the people who have attended over the years. They're nice people, and some of them are quite influential in their own way, but if I wanted to run a major conspiracy I wouldn't be asking them to get involved.

 

You could say likewise about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.

 

Maybe they should all invite a few celebs along and spark a bit of public interest.

 

Indepth knowledge of abstruse concepts like Astrophysics and Law, good debating skills, media influence and you've met the Bilderberg Group.

 

You secretly run the world, don't you Uly?

[deesidejambo]

Indepth knowledge of abstruse concepts like Astrophysics and Law, good debating skills, media influence and you've met the Bilderberg Group.

 

You secretly run the world, don't you Uly?

 

I was beginning to think the same. If he can get me 2 tickets for the derby I will believe.

[coppercrutch]

The fact you have joined the redneck brigade and started posting consipracys in my eyes you have lost any and all credibility.

 

How come aliens only seem to abuct buck tooth inbreds from ****water indiana?

 

OOOOOOOOoooooogi Boooooooooooooogi Woooooooooogi

 

Are you Mudler or Sulky?

 

Any more of this crap and im passing on your ticket to someone else!

 

Nothing to do with reptiles ya raj !!

 

Simply the thought that there are groups of incredibly powerful people meeting up on a regular basis. Most of these meetings get little or no press coverage. That alone is very strange.

 

At these meetings they make decisions that impact all of our lives every day. There is no conspiracy here. It is all documented fact.

 

Just how much control they have and exactly what decisions they make is the only mystery. If you look at the people that attend these things I imagine these meetings define a lot of actions in this World.

 

Bolx. Of course there is a world economy, but that doesn't mean control. In fact it is the opposite - a free world economy means open competition and less opportunity for "control". That is why you can (if you want) buy a set of golf clubs from a shop in the USA via the internet if it is cheaper than here. If you remove the global economy you are then at the mercy of your own local economy, with less choice, and higher prices.

 

Are you having a laugh ?!!

 

Have a look at what is going on out there just now.

 

Massive control. All over the World. All in very few hands.

 

The decisions these people make in their meetings could affect whether you have a job next week or not.

[deesidejambo]

Nothing to do with reptiles ya raj !!

 

Simply the thought that there are groups of incredibly powerful people meeting up on a regular basis. Most of these meetings get little or no press coverage. That alone is very strange.

 

At these meetings they make decisions that impact all of our lives every day. There is no conspiracy here. It is all documented fact.

 

Just how much control they have and exactly what decisions they make is the only mystery. If you look at the people that attend these things I imagine these meetings define a lot of actions in this World.

 

 

 

Are you having a laugh ?!!

 

Have a look at what is going on out there just now.

 

Massive control. All over the World. All in very few hands.

 

The decisions these people make in their meetings could affect whether you have a job next week or not.

 

Possibly, but I also have control of my own life. I choose whether or not to work and I choose who I work for. You seem to think that everything is "controlled" by others and the individual has little choice. I prefer to think that my own decisions are much more likely to impact my life than those made by others. I guess its just a different way of viewing things.

[maroonlegions]

while i agree with Copper:peek_by_Andrin:, i feel that as their agenda is gathering pas now, look at all the surveillance that has been put in place in the last 5/10 years, credit crunch to undermine the different currency's around the world so that a world currency can be introduced leading to a cashless society were it will be chip and pin linked to a global super computer/computers with ID cards , no ID card no access to any form of money, total control there i feel, on the subject of the free:rolleyes: market the main one i think that will be targeted is world food production , if GM crops are phased in globally and NATURAL crop seeds are limited then they have the food producers and farmers by the b****, don't buy their GM seeds then no lively hood , food CONTROL there is a real possibility , i remember a saying from i think Henry KISSINGER . control a nations oil and you CONTROL their finances but CONTROL a nations food supply and you CONTROL its people , WTF did he mean by this if he and his like were not thinking or PLANNING this all those years ago, they have i think they have used a STEPPING STONE approach to were we are today , they get to their goals slowly and from behind the scenes, now that was painful to do with a hangover.

[maroonlegions]

Possibly, but I also have control of my own life. I choose whether or not to work and I choose who I work for. You seem to think that everything is "controlled" by others and the individual has little choice. I prefer to think that my own decisions are much more likely to impact my life than those made by others. I guess its just a different way of viewing things.

 

 

 

i think the point i can see here is TAXATION , it is the biggest most effective way of CONTROL , people might have the means to choose who to work for or not to work at all but the the fact remains that we all pay taxes and these taxes go straight to the government , how many taxes have been introduced in the last 10/20 years and now the so called green taxes could be forced upon us , it seems to me that they are creating a SLAVERY OF TAXATION and at the same time a SLAVERY OF DEPENDENCE, money and its various forms of taxations is very effective in controlling.