Fat Al and the Braveheart brigade (merged threads).

[Therapist]

They appear to be pretty functional for me

 

Yeah, they're doing a greet job delivering their promises on policing and the shambles that is their local income tax.

 

Sadly the other parties can't get their act together at the moment. If I had the time to start a political party it would steamroller Fat Alex at the next election.

[The Mighty Thor]

Yeah, they're doing a greet job delivering their promises on policing and the shambles that is their local income tax.

 

Sadly the other parties can't get their act together at the moment. If I had the time to start a political party it would steamroller Fat Alex at the next election.

 

As i said in my previous post the other parties are in disarray, well Labour are(the only other party ever likely to be elected in Scotland).

 

Perhaps you should start your own party.

 

Maybe we can have an open thread with .names for your party?

 

I'll start with this one

 

Therapists Royalist Unionist Monarchist Party Exclusive To Scotland

 

or TRUMP......ah you get the idea.......

[Miller Jambo 60]

As i said in my previous post the other parties are in disarray, well Labour are(the only other party ever likely to be elected in Scotland).

 

Perhaps you should start your own party.

 

Maybe we can have an open thread with .names for your party?

 

I'll start with this one

 

Therapists Royalist Unionist Monarchist Party Exclusive To Scotland

 

or TRUMP......ah you get the idea.......

 

2-0 scotland and goodnight tories

[washniklaw]

Fiona Hyslop is the Education Minister and a complete clown. She preaches as if all is well although there are massive failures throughout our education system. Honestly, I wouldn't even listen to politicians opinions. Unfortunately, they actually make the key decisions.

 

A let down educator.

[felix]

He stated they would reduce class sizes, they have failed to do so, just because they did not state when this would be done by is no excuse.

 

their manifesto may as well be the beano!

 

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

 

In the short period of time they've been in office, the maximum permitted P1-P3 class size has dropped from 30 to 25.

[Sparky]

Agreed, the article is far from well written, but i read it while browsing so wanted to see what others thought. Sadly some see it as their personal duty to defend the 3rd Reich and their promises that are never delivered.

 

I hereby invoke Godwin's Law.

 

Mods. Close the thread please.

[coppercrutch]

I hereby invoke Godwin's Law.

 

Mods. Close the thread please.

 

If only it was that easy Shahar.

[Jambo_Gaz]

Comparing the SNP to the Third Reich is an insult. To the Third Reich.

[mitch41]

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Tories-claim-SNP-class-size.4474805.jp

 

Another failure to deliver.

 

Seems they underestimated how hard it was to lead compared to shouting from accross the benches.

 

there will be about 6000 teacher vacancies in the next 4 to 6 months with teachers retiring ect. so these job seekers will get jobs (if they're good enough) but in the mean time they'll have to do with either living off mummy and daddy or getting a temporary job.

 

all this drama queen stuff is for losers like new labour and the tories.

[coppercrutch]

there will be about 6000 teacher vacancies in the next 4 to 6 months with teachers retiring ect. so these job seekers will get jobs (if they're good enough) but in the mean time they'll have to do with either living off mummy and daddy or getting a temporary job.

 

all this drama queen stuff is for losers like new labour and the tories.

 

You telling me in 4 months I can get 26k per year to work 8 months and have the rest on holiday !!

 

Don't be telling the convicts about this. They will be getting ideas...

[coppercrutch]

Are you sure? If so, fantastic.

 

There is a big surplus of qualified teachers just now desperate for a permanent position.

 

 

 

Yas. Another pop at teachers. That was another class thread if I remember correctly.

 

Not a pop at teachers at all. Just pointing out their 'work to pay' ratio. I know they do a very important job.

 

I wouldn't mind being a Teacher !! 12 months pay for 9 months work. Not many could argue with that.

[mitch41]

Yeah, they're doing a greet job delivering their promises on policing and the shambles that is their local income tax.

 

Sadly the other parties can't get their act together at the moment. If I had the time to start a political party it would steamroller Fat Alex at the next election.

 

sir alex salmond is one of the greatest political leaders the country has had. in fact he's the best ever. the SNP are the best thing that's ever happened to scotland and it's getting right up your nose, ha ha.

[Miller Jambo 60]

You telling me in 4 months I can get 26k per year to work 8 months and have the rest on holiday !!

 

Don't be telling the convicts about this. They will be getting ideas...

 

Are we talking about secondary teaching .

I think 50000 a year to teach that lot.

Cheeky wide whatever , a waste of space.

To be fair if i was a teacher , would go abroad and teach kids that are needing real care.

[coppercrutch]

sir alex salmond is one of the greatest political leaders the country has had. in fact he's the best ever. the SNP are the best thing that's ever happened to scotland and it's getting right up your nose, ha ha.

 

 

Someone please help this poor soul....

[coppercrutch]

Are we talking about secondary teaching .

I think 50000 a year to teach that lot.

Cheeky wide whatever , a waste of space.

To be fair if i was a teacher , would go abroad and teach kids that are needing real care.

 

I would do the same.

[coppercrutch]

I don't think I could do it, but I just about spat out my pint when my mate from Uni told me how they were getting!

 

Think she'll outstrip my pay by circa ?8k by next year and we have virtually the same qualifications. Maybe I took a wrong turn somewhere along the way

 

 

Gay lap dancing works for me. It pays the bills. ?50 for a quick rub. Easy money.

 

Some guys get turned on by the fact I look like Jimmy Sommerville.

 

Sick *****.....

 

[Jambo_Gaz]

 

Some guys get turned on by the fact I look like Jimmy Sommerville.

 

 

 

 

I8?

[Miller Jambo 60]

I8?

 

Im telling I8:)

We jambos women lovers stick together:rolleyes:

[davemclaren]

As much as it's perfectlu valid valid to despise alex and hate the SNP these threadds do get a bit tiresome.

 

I await the Therapist party getting into power. I have my union flags and 'less tax on the rich' banner ready.

[mac]

Dave, I think therapist will then rename his humble abode "Union-Ista Towers":cool:

[269miles]

Is education not a vital matter? Or is that because it doesnt affect you directly?

 

A simple general query from my good self...

 

As someone who went through the EIS strikes of the 70s to get classes below 30 ( and nearly every class I attended then was well over 30 pupils per class ) , can anyone tell me what the average class size is in Eton , Harrow , Herriots , Watsons , Stewarts- Melville , etc , etc , etc.

[Therapist]

I await the Therapist party getting into power. I have my union flags and 'less tax on the rich' banner ready.

 

Thanks for your support Dave. There are millions like you out there who feel forgotten and disenfranchised by gesture/catch-phrase politics where spin is everything - they are just waiting for a party like mine.

[upthehill]

Okay lets go down the Thatcher road.

1) How many people were thrown on the scrap heap when that tyrant was in power.

2) We talk about illegal wars now, but she had us down in the Falklands for a war that should never had happened.

3) Destroyed the miners.

4) Conned folks to buy their homes.

5) Please dont tell me you are a Tory.

6) I was a Labour man for years (SHOP STEWARD) but Blair and now Brown with their new labour ways make me cringe.

7) Take it you are English with that response to me ,or just a feeble attempt to wind me up.

 

1) How many people bettered themselves under Thatchers Government? Many millions, and in so doing improved conditions in this country for us all.

 

2) No war should happen, but anyone invading us is going to get a war. I'm glad she stood up foreign aggression.

 

3) The miners destroyed themselves. As they say Arthur Scargill started out with a small house and a big union, and ended up with a big house and a small union. That's one of the nicer things they say about him.

 

4) I don't see were the con was in empowering & enabling people to buy their own homes? Only socialists & fascists want to keep the poor in poverty, & control were people live. Thatcher enabled people to move freely, without state interfering in their lives. This was not a con, it was a liberating change in peoples lives.

 

5) I'm a Tory, very happy to be one. Many people are up & down the country. Our predicted majority at the moment is 172MPs ( http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk )so that's pretty clear that we are the most popular party at the moment.

 

6) A Shop Steward these days is likely to be a Conservative, like Davena Rankin, our candidate in the Glasgow East by election, a working class single mum and shop steward. Labour are a disgrace at the moment and in no fit state to run their own affairs (Labour party is almost bankrupt) never mind the country.

 

7) Conservatives are not an English party, and political debates should not always come back to race. I'm a Leither, who votes Conservative.

[Boris]

Gay lap dancing works for me. It pays the bills. ?50 for a quick rub. Easy money.

 

Some guys get turned on by the fact I look like Jimmy Sommerville.

 

Sick *****.....

 

 

..and yet the political wit of Ian Hislop comes so easy to you too.

 

 

Some guys have all the luck...

[felix]

1) 5) I'm a Tory, very happy to be one.

 

The OP's gone silent so maybe you can you explain how David McLetchie thinks reducing class-size maximums is "illegal" (when it's already happened) and why your party think the SNP's plan to reduce class sizes is "undesirable"; but in the same press conference say.."we're not saying reducing class sizes is a bad thing"

[Big D]

I rarely reply to these threads as I tend to get away from my PC and actually go out and speak to real people about what aspirations they have for the Scotland they live in. However, the Labour and Unionist and Conservative and Unionist Parties and all their apologists and gravy riders are just the political equivalent of the OF. Discuss.

[Miller Jambo 60]

1) How many people bettered themselves under Thatchers Government? Many millions, and in so doing improved conditions in this country for us all.

 

2) No war should happen, but anyone invading us is going to get a war. I'm glad she stood up foreign aggression.

 

3) The miners destroyed themselves. As they say Arthur Scargill started out with a small house and a big union, and ended up with a big house and a small union. That's one of the nicer things they say about him.

 

4) I don't see were the con was in empowering & enabling people to buy their own homes? Only socialists & fascists want to keep the poor in poverty, & control were people live. Thatcher enabled people to move freely, without state interfering in their lives. This was not a con, it was a liberating change in peoples lives.

 

5) I'm a Tory, very happy to be one. Many people are up & down the country. Our predicted majority at the moment is 172MPs ( http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk )so that's pretty clear that we are the most popular party at the moment.

 

6) A Shop Steward these days is likely to be a Conservative, like Davena Rankin, our candidate in the Glasgow East by election, a working class single mum and shop steward. Labour are a disgrace at the moment and in no fit state to run their own affairs (Labour party is almost bankrupt) never mind the country.

 

7) Conservatives are not an English party, and political debates should not always come back to race. I'm a Leither, who votes Conservative.

 

And you stay in Leith.

The tories are not an ENGLISH party, They are certainly not SCOTTISH with their pathetic ammount of seats.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

 

In the short period of time they've been in office, the maximum permitted P1-P3 class size has dropped from 30 to 25.

 

"The Scottish Government vowed to reduce maximum class size in P1-3 to 18 but has come under fire for placing no timescale on delivery.

 

The previous Labour-Liberal Democrat administration set a maximum of 25 for P1

 

...A Scottish Government spokesman claimed progress was being made on the policy, saying: "Twelve per cent of primaries one to three are currently at 18 or under, which shows the magnitude of the task."."

 

Try reading the article before telling others they dont know what they are talking about.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

The OP's gone silent so maybe you can you explain how David McLetchie thinks reducing class-size maximums is "illegal" (when it's already happened) and why your party think the SNP's plan to reduce class sizes is "undesirable"; but in the same press conference say.."we're not saying reducing class sizes is a bad thing"

 

Eh the OP was out watching the football, is that ok with you?

 

As stated, read the article properly.

[felix]

"The Scottish Government vowed to reduce maximum class size in P1-3 to 18 but has come under fire for placing no timescale on delivery.

 

The previous Labour-Liberal Democrat administration set a maximum of 25 for P1

 

...A Scottish Government spokesman claimed progress was being made on the policy, saying: "Twelve per cent of primaries one to three are currently at 18 or under, which shows the magnitude of the task."."

 

Try reading the article before telling others they dont know what they are talking about.

 

SUSS - glad you're showing interest in the content of the thread you started; without resorting to fascist, third reich, fat alex jibes.

 

Many bodies were involved in recommending reduced primary numbers however it was the SNP Government Circular (ref.1/2007) which set-out the revised maximum class size of 25 !

 

In terms of reading the article; you admitted you only skimmed through it. Give it a read, there's a lot of good stuff there.

[felix]

Eh the OP was out watching the football, is that ok with you?

 

As stated, read the article properly.

 

Watching the football's fine with me - unfortunately I had to go to my daughters primary 1 induction class with 24 other parents

 

I know the article you posted well.

Still can't make sense of McLudgies contradictary statements nor for that matter - why you titled the thread...more lies from Fat Al...?

[i8hibsh]

you do know how contradictory that statement is, don't you?

 

Salmond is many things, but he's certainly not a fascist.

 

He may not be right wing but the fat Feck is an EXTREME NATIONALIST

 

I'd say he has the label 'fascist' covered

[i8hibsh]

I8?

 

I'm insulted moonface

[Big D]

He may not be right wing but the fat Feck is an EXTREME NATIONALIST

 

I'd say he has the label 'fascist' covered

 

I once read an English translation of Mussolini's book "On Fascism". He advocated a centralized autocratic government lead by a dictatorial leader, economic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition. If you think that describes the Scottish Government under SNP administration more than any U.K. Government of the last 50 years, then you are entitled to your opinion. Many of us just don't believe you though.

[Miller Jambo 60]

I once read an English translation of Mussolini's book "On Fascism". He advocated a centralized autocratic government lead by a dictatorial leader, economic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition. If you think that describes the Scottish Government under SNP administration more than any U.K. Government of the last 50 years, then you are entitled to your opinion. Many of us just don't believe you though.

 

Only one FASCIST in my lifetime, THATCHER A THUG with a big ENGLISH chip on her shoulder.

POLL TAX lets give it to the jocks first,

No end to that boots talents.

[Eldar Hadzimehmedovic]

This thread demonstrates democracy's biggest flaw.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

http://news.scotsman.com/politics/SNP-is-accused-after-39doctoring39.4398167.jp

 

SNP is accused after 'doctoring' flag image

 

THE SNP has come under fire for digitally altering a photograph on a Scottish tourism website to show a Saltire rather than a Union Flag.

A photograph on the Scottish Government's Homecoming Scotland website of the British flag flying at Edinburgh Castle was reportedly changed to show a Saltire in its place.

 

Royal British Legion Scotland described the move as an "insult" to Scottish

war heroes.

 

Spokesman Neil Griffiths said: "We take the strongest exception to this. It is absolutely wrong.

 

"This is extremely offensive to the thousands of men and women who have served under the Union Flag."

 

Mr Griffiths also accused the SNP of using taxpayer's money to promote its own political agenda on the publicly-funded website.

 

A Scottish Government spokesman confirmed the image had been digitally altered.

 

He said: "The image is merely a VisitScotland montage used to promote Homecoming 2009, adding fireworks and a Saltire to the castle since the Saltire is the badge of Homecoming.

 

"These are just promotional images – not adverts for the castle – and they have no political or any other significance whatsoever."

 

A Labour spokesman described the act as "petty".

 

The offending image appears to have since been removed.

[Miller Jambo 60]

This thread demonstrates democracy's biggest flaw.

 

WHICH IS

[The Vulture]

If Alex Salmond lies, he is doing exactly what other politicians do.

 

The majority of politicians once in the job, are desperate to stay in power, even though it maybe in their own interest that they step down.

 

Thatcher may have encouraged 'free trade', but then look at the conequences of her regime. Many an area where there was traditional industry (e.g. coal mining, steel production, ship building etc) became unemployment blackspots. This was through out the UK (e.g. Yorkshire, Scotland, Black Country, Wales etc). Her supporters say that she modernised the British economy. Well that maybe true, but to close down all these industries and leave these communities with nothing as a replacement for people where they can work instead is sinful. In my opinion, all countries should have a good manufacturing economy. if not countries become reliant on other nations for their goods (e.g. India, China etc)

 

House prices, yes it is good if you own your home, have it all paid off etc. But then the negative side of this is that property prices go through the roof. But then you go to mainland Europe, the attitude to housing is totally different. People happily rent, they don't see it as a need that they must own a house. Seems to be a very British/Irish thing that. Also the other downside of that is because of the amount of money invested in that market, it is key for the economy that the housing market stays strong. Now in hard times, with the weak housing market, or so I am told by friends still living in the UK, times are hard in the UK, just as they are worldwide. Problem with politicians is that all their policies are short term, if they wanted to implement long term policies then they would get booted out.

 

I think we in the west have had it too easy. Ok, times maybe tough but at least we have clean food and water which many people through out the world don't. Lets just count our blessings............

[Miller Jambo 60]

http://news.scotsman.com/politics/SNP-is-accused-after-39doctoring39.4398167.jp

 

SNP is accused after 'doctoring' flag image

 

THE SNP has come under fire for digitally altering a photograph on a Scottish tourism website to show a Saltire rather than a Union Flag.

A photograph on the Scottish Government's Homecoming Scotland website of the British flag flying at Edinburgh Castle was reportedly changed to show a Saltire in its place.

 

Royal British Legion Scotland described the move as an "insult" to Scottish

war heroes.

 

Spokesman Neil Griffiths said: "We take the strongest exception to this. It is absolutely wrong.

 

"This is extremely offensive to the thousands of men and women who have served under the Union Flag."

 

Mr Griffiths also accused the SNP of using taxpayer's money to promote its own political agenda on the publicly-funded website.

 

A Scottish Government spokesman confirmed the image had been digitally altered.

 

He said: "The image is merely a VisitScotland montage used to promote Homecoming 2009, adding fireworks and a Saltire to the castle since the Saltire is the badge of Homecoming.

 

"These are just promotional images ? not adverts for the castle ? and they have no political or any other significance whatsoever."

 

A Labour spokesman described the act as "petty".

 

The offending image appears to have since been removed.

 

Tory paper SUSS you buy that ****. SUSS 1- 0 Dougstar

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

If Alex Salmond lies, he is doing exactly what other politicians do.

The majority of politicians once in the job, are desperate to stay in power, even though it maybe in their own interest that they step down.

 

Thatcher may have encouraged 'free trade', but then look at the conequences of her regime. Many an area where there was traditional industry (e.g. coal mining, steel production, ship building etc) became unemployment blackspots. This was through out the UK (e.g. Yorkshire, Scotland, Black Country, Wales etc). Her supporters say that she modernised the British economy. Well that maybe true, but to close down all these industries and leave these communities with nothing as a replacement for people where they can work instead is sinful. In my opinion, all countries should have a good manufacturing economy. if not countries become reliant on other nations for their goods (e.g. India, China etc)

 

House prices, yes it is good if you own your home, have it all paid off etc. But then the negative side of this is that property prices go through the roof. But then you go to mainland Europe, the attitude to housing is totally different. People happily rent, they don't see it as a need that they must own a house. Seems to be a very British/Irish thing that. Also the other downside of that is because of the amount of money invested in that market, it is key for the economy that the housing market stays strong. Now in hard times, with the weak housing market, or so I am told by friends still living in the UK, times are hard in the UK, just as they are worldwide. Problem with politicians is that all their policies are short term, if they wanted to implement long term policies then they would get booted out.

 

I think we in the west have had it too easy. Ok, times maybe tough but at least we have clean food and water which many people through out the world don't. Lets just count our blessings............

 

Oh thats ok then they all do it!

 

He is the First Minister and should be above that.

[The Vulture]

Oh thats ok then they all do it!

 

 

ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD BE ABOVE THAT, ALL CIVIL SERVANTS SHOULD BE ABOVE THAT. IF YOU WORK FOR THE GOVT YOU SHOULD NOT LIE AS YOU ARE ONLY LETTING THE PUBLIC AND YOURSELF DOWN

 

Just cause you don't like AS, you go on and on about him telling untruths. Yet I don't remember threads on here in the past about politicians from other parties telling untruths.

 

Nobody has come up with any conclusive proof that they have lied, they just seem to quote him and interpret it as a lie from the links I have seen on here.

[Randle P McMurphy]

I dont normally get involved in political debate but this is just so wrong on so many levels.

 

1) How many people bettered themselves under Thatchers Government? Many millions, and in so doing improved conditions in this country for us all.

 

As someone who left school in 1981 there was no future for a young schemie like myself, reasonable qualifications or not. My stark choice was signing on or take a Youth Opportunity Programme 'job' at ?20(ish) a week. Yes lots of people were eventually better off but the majority of these people were those in the upper tax bracket for the 3m on the dole it was the start of the breakdown in society/ family/ community we have today.

 

She killed off any skilled industries we had and threw loads of highly skilled men and women on the scrapheap with them.

 

2) No war should happen, but anyone invading us is going to get a war. I'm glad she stood up foreign aggression.

 

If anyone thinks this 'war' was for any other reason than winning the next election they are sadly deluded. George Bush has followed her great example twice.

 

3) The miners destroyed themselves. As they say Arthur Scargill started out with a small house and a big union, and ended up with a big house and a small union. That's one of the nicer things they say about him.

 

There was definitely fault on both sides but my abiding memory of this time is of the change in the police attitude. Thatcher rewarded them like never before and in return they did her bidding for her. There were policemen buying new houses from the overtime they were earning whilst miners and their families were destitute.

 

I never felt the same about the police after some of the behaviour I saw from them at that time.

 

4) I don't see were the con was in empowering & enabling people to buy their own homes? Only socialists & fascists want to keep the poor in poverty, & control were people live. Thatcher enabled people to move freely, without state interfering in their lives. This was not a con, it was a liberating change in peoples lives.

 

The con is where the houses are sold and then nothing built to take their place. This is why we have the situation where people struggle to get on the property ladder now and have no opportunity to have an independent start in life unless they manage to gather a large enough deposit to put down on a house.

 

5) I'm a Tory, very happy to be one. Many people are up & down the country. Our predicted majority at the moment is 172MPs ( http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk )so that's pretty clear that we are the most popular party at the moment.

 

Each to their own.

 

6) A Shop Steward these days is likely to be a Conservative, like Davena Rankin, our candidate in the Glasgow East by election, a working class single mum and shop steward. Labour are a disgrace at the moment and in no fit state to run their own affairs (Labour party is almost bankrupt) never mind the country.

 

7) Conservatives are not an English party, and political debates should not always come back to race. I'm a Leither, who votes Conservative.

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

Oh thats ok then they all do it!

 

 

ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD BE ABOVE THAT' date=' ALL CIVIL SERVANTS SHOULD BE ABOVE THAT. IF YOU WORK FOR THE GOVT YOU SHOULD NOT LIE AS YOU ARE ONLY LETTING THE PUBLIC AND YOURSELF DOWN

 

Just cause you don't like AS, you go on and on about him telling untruths. Yet I don't remember threads on here in the past about politicians from other parties telling untruths.

 

Nobody has come up with any conclusive proof that they have lied, they just seem to quote him and interpret it as a lie from the links I have seen on here.[/quote']

 

 

Calm down sweetie, go bake a cake or something.

 

I "go on" as he is the man of the moment the man to move us forward. I hope he can do it. Perhaps if he takes 5 minutes off from trying to point score with Westminster or doctoring images then he may find time to do the things he promised, you know like, class sizes, police officers, student loans etc.

[The Vulture]

 

 

Calm down sweetie' date=' go bake a cake or something.

 

I "go on" as he is the man of the moment the man to move us forward. I hope he can do it. Perhaps if he takes 5 minutes off from trying to point score with Westminster or doctoring images then he may find time to do the things he promised, you know like, class sizes, police officers, student loans etc.[/quote']

 

What kind of cake would you like ? Strawberry gateaux or black Forest ?

 

These things take time though, like with the police officers, is it the fault of the first minister that the candidates who were interviewed weren't upto scratch ? So should they be given the job to make up numbers and tick a box or is it better to put in the facilities and training so in the future the standard of applicants is higher ?

[Guest S.U.S.S.]

 

What kind of cake would you like ? Strawberry gateaux or black Forest ?

 

These things take time though' date=' like with the police officers, is it the fault of the first minister that the candidates who were interviewed weren't upto scratch ? So should they be given the job to make up numbers and tick a box or is it better to put in the facilities and training so in the future the standard of applicants is higher ?[/quote']

 

Dont promise what you cant deliver.

 

Oh and Strawberry gateaux please.

[RobM]

Not really terrorism though is it?

 

Bit tawdry to suggest it has any equivalence really.

[The Vulture]

 

Dont promise what you cant deliver.

 

Oh and Strawberry gateaux please.

 

When did the First Minister say he would achieve these by ?

[djf]

A political party using public funds to further their own political agendas?

 

Unheard of!

[blairdin]

People - opposition politicians and the electorate - need to think about this sensibly.

 

The SNP manifesto was never going to be achieved in the first 12 months, 24 months, 36 months. Their achievements towards their manifesto pledges should be judged at the end of their term in office.

 

Is it realistic to expect class sizes to be reduced in 12 months? There might be alot of teachers, but is their the classroom space to occupy them. I suspect not. This will take time. Unless we are proposing to teach kids in smaller classes under gazebos in school playgrounds?

 

My girlfriend has just started her teacher training and it will take 2 years to complete. By then the infrastructure will be coming together to allow class sizes to be reduced. She's confident about the opportunties ahead. That's good enough for me.

 

Politically, I have an open mind. I voted in the SNP and am happy with what they have done so far. Independence - jury is very much out. But one things for sure. Artcicles like the one posted at the start of this thread don't persuade me to to change my vote next time, Instead of constantly slating the SNP, let's hear how some of the unionist lot would tackle the problems the SNP have indicated they want to try solving.