mattyw_1874 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Sorry but he is just not good enough empty him now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jambomickey Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Sorry but he is just not good enough empty him now!! he's only a young lad! give him a chance, far too many being negative on the back of one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Have been saying it since Burley was here, he's better in midfield. Far better going forward than defensively and he's got the engine to play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-e-a-r-t-s Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Have been saying it since Burley was here, he's better in midfield. Far better going forward than defensively and he's got the engine to play there. squad player, nothing more at present. hope obua takes his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Have been saying it since Burley was here, he's better in midfield. Far better going forward than defensively and he's got the engine to play there. Correct. Never a left back. The boy's got something, of that i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJT Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 He's hopeless, definately the weak link in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groot Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Problem is, I don't think I want Obua to play left back, by all accounts he is really good going forward from midfield which is something we really need at the moment I think Lee is ok but i'd look to get another LB once we have another striker and a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyw_1874 Posted August 16, 2008 Author Share Posted August 16, 2008 he's only a young lad! give him a chance, far too many being negative on the back of one game I have gave him a chance for a full back you need: Positional sense - He has none. Pace - He has little Strength - Even less Bottle - Non existent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogaza Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 The problem is we have full backs, not wing backs. You just have to look at Takis Fyssas' link up play with the midfield in his first season to know what a good wing back is capable of. Csaba needs to make sure our attacking approach starts from the back also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Plissken Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 He's a good player who will get better - maybe better suited for midfield though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 The danger is Wallace has been on the scene a while but has yet to find a position that suits his strengths. His energy, running and drive may suit the middle of the park more than being out on the flanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neave Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 He got the utter pish taken out of him by a centre-half for their first goal today and is another accident waiting to happen at LB. I agree with others who have said he may be suited to another position (as his defensive limitations are all too apparent all too often), however he had better find and establish one soon or his days could be numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Lee Wallace aka Shooter,is the new Robbie. I agree though he hasnt been good enough for a long while and memories of Jose G only disguise how poor Lee has become. He may come on to become a better player but he isnt good enough for Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonjambo Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Have been saying it since Burley was here, he's better in midfield. Far better going forward than defensively and he's got the engine to play there. 100 percent correct ps to people who say empty him you are ether off your ****ing heads or you need to sober up empty one of the best talents we have in a squad full of makelas nades neilsons ect ect jesus.h.christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco1874 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I have to admit i quite like Lee Wallace, and if him and driver can gain a bit of composure as they mature i think we could have a good left flank there! The biggest concern for me, especially today was our right flank, i know Thomson hasn't been in there long but he doesn't get forward enough, and larry wasn't interested today. You need your wide players pushing down the wings, at least wallace tries to do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonjambo Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I have to admit i quite like Lee Wallace, and if him and driver can gain a bit of composure as they mature i think we could have a good left flank there! The biggest concern for me, especially today was our right flank, i know Thomson hasn't been in there long but he doesn't get forward enough, and larry wasn't interested today. You need your wide players pushing down the wings, at least wallace tries to do this! again 100 percent correct especially re larry who is becoming a worry he does not seem to be as energised as the rest of the squad (though of course when he puts his mind to it he has more talent than most of the squad but>>>>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Lee Wallace has a gun...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson_hmfc Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Elliot gets dogs abuse when he tries his best and puts a shift in most weeks. Every time Wallace plays he is beaten by the diagnol ball (Hibs match first game of last season EVERY time) he was ripped by a centre half today for thier goal, his posistional sense is awful. Maybe he will be better in a different posistion but to continually say he is one of our best prospects, please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco1874 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 again 100 percent correct especially re larry who is becoming a worry he does not seem to be as energised as the rest of the squad (though of course when he puts his mind to it he has more talent than most of the squad but>>>>) I like Larry, but would rather he played just behind the strikers. I don't think he's done enough at right midfield for us to keep playing him there. It's annoying because for Ghana during the African nations he looked quite good for them there. Maybe it would help if we had a better right back who overlapped more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 The biggest problem Lee Wallace has is concentration. Lots of ability (most of which is so far unfulfilled) but at the moment against the better sides he is always liable to make a mistake and he's got to cut it out of his game. He cost us the first goal today, which was clearly going to be key and was the pivotal moment in the game. Agree that his best position might be in midfield but can't see him get a game there given all the players we have available for those positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston churchill Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 bang,bang ,will be hooked ,when big davie O is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 bang,bang ,will be hooked ,when big davie O is fit. I hope not. I want to see Obua (as well as Kingston) in a far more influential position than left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Totally agree.he is big enough and old enough now,thought last season he was not good enough,now im convinced!we need two mayburys for left and right back!we are still lacking a lot of quality in our side,im convinced giving the backing our new manager will sort it out! keep away vlad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwull22 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Lee Wallace is a useless piece of hobo sh**e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 He plays better as a LM or CM tbh. Not a good left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA MAROON Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 He has to improve his concentration and get serious, he is too nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts of Vladland Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Lee's goal against Motherwell I think was a good. He run about 70 yards played a 1,2 with someone and place the ball in the back of the net. So he can get forward and do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only a Game Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Sorry but he is just not good enough empty him now!! Forget Dougal. Forget the SFA. Wallace cost us the game today. WE all knew before the season started we had poor full backs and no threat up front. No one should be surprised we've lost a game beacuse of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboMarc Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Give him a chance FFS, only 2 games into the season. Give him time with Csaba and you never know. Yeah, his performance today was poor but he has potential and is still very young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Sorry but he is just not good enough empty him now!! think that might be abit too severe as he is a talented player. Just don't think he's a left-back as he is too attacking-minded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 he's only a young lad! give him a chance, far too many being negative on the back of one game Sorry mate geting money he was the one that cost us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighusref Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Have been saying it since Burley was here, he's better in midfield. Far better going forward than defensively and he's got the engine to play there. I have also said that for a long time. He is a good prospect but is only put at left back as we have been looking for one and he is left footed. Central midfield is his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 By all accounts was at fault for the goal yesterday. Lee needs to start playing like he did when he first came into the team, otherwise it's time to go. Hopefully Obua will be fit soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therapist Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 By all accounts was at fault for the goal yesterday. He was the main culprit. Our defending didn't look too clever when the ball came in either. I'm sure someone took a fresh air swipe at the ball. How's the braille version of the Sunday Sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Jambo 60 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 He was the main culprit. Our defending didn't look too clever when the ball came in either. I'm sure someone took a fresh air swipe at the ball. How's the braille version of the Sunday Sport? Like i said last night he cost us end off gets plenty money no excuse:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 He was the main culprit. Our defending didn't look too clever when the ball came in either. I'm sure someone took a fresh air swipe at the ball. How's the braille version of the Sunday Sport? Not bad although I look like Ray Charles today. Sitting in the house with my Ray Bans on as eyes hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Lee Wallace was poor at the first goal yesterday. But anyone who can't see he's a good football player with a big future, doesn't know much about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Lee Wallace was poor at the first goal yesterday. But anyone who can't see he's a good football player with a big future, doesn't know much about football. He may well be a good footballer, but you're no use to the team if you can't tackle a fish supper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I think he's a terrible player who leaks goals at an alarming rate whenever he plays full back. We have far better players to play in midfeild which makes him redundant in my view. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 He may well be a good footballer, but you're no use to the team if you can't tackle a fish supper. Agree, the defensive side of his game is too weak for a left back. So he either works on it and gets a run, and reaches the level required. Or he is played in a different position. Or he drops out. I agree it's an issue, but anyone suggesting he's not got talent as a player needs their eyes looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Kidd Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Agree, the defensive side of his game is too weak for a left back. So he either works on it and gets a run, and reaches the level required. Or he is played in a different position. Or he drops out. I agree it's an issue, but anyone suggesting he's not got talent as a player needs their eyes looked at. Hopefully the manager will coach him to the required level JR. I'm not disputing the boy can play but he makes too many mistakes for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamboRobbo Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hopefully the manager will coach him to the required level JR. I'm not disputing the boy can play but he makes too many mistakes for my liking. I agree too he does make too many mistakes. Something that has to be worked on. But he has talent in there too was my point. I think we agree on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 We have 2 twenty year olds down our left hand side of the team -- both have a lot to learn but for some to judge them so early in their careers is harsh -- we are in a rebuilding phase at the moment and part of that is bringing in young players and playing them on a regular basis -- this means they will make mistakes in the glare of first team scrutiny -- give them a break --if the same things happened on a regular basis next season then perhaps a harsher judgement can be made but not at present. Some here seem to expect instant miracles and a title challenge this season -- not going to happen ------------- what we can expect is a more organised, disciplined team (despite yesterday) and a team that will grow together. We are not it seems getting much of a mention for being a young team but the average age is one of the youngest in living memory -- a young team will not get worse and with luck and preparation will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Don't know where to fit Wallace into the team, he's certainly no left-back, never has been and left midfield, he loses the ball too often and struggles to get decent crosses in, personally, i'd sign a left-back and then punt him, didn't Rangers show an interest in him a couple of months ago? Seems the perfect Walter Smith player then.....an average player who'll look better at Ibrox just because of who they are and the press of course will build up to get him into the Scotland squad (Tosh McKinlay anyone?), unless Csabba can get the best out of him. He's been in and around the first team 4 years and don't think he'll get any better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Is it my imagination or does Lee Wallace have the footballing grace of a coal miner? It looks like he has steel toe caps in his boots.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Another very disappointing performance for Wallace. The opening 3 games have been a great opportunity for him to grab the left back position for the season but to be honest he has been murder and in my opinion is now running out of chances. Think Csaba now needs to sign a left back as he will want Obua in a more influential position. Sadly Wallace is going the same way as Simmons and Elliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc-1874 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 The problem is we have full backs, not wing backs. You just have to look at Takis Fyssas' link up play with the midfield in his first season to know what a good wing back is capable of. Csaba needs to make sure our attacking approach starts from the back also.Csaba will figure it out:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc-1874 Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 We have 2 twenty year olds down our left hand side of the team -- both have a lot to learn but for some to judge them so early in their careers is harsh -- we are in a rebuilding phase at the moment and part of that is bringing in young players and playing them on a regular basis -- this means they will make mistakes in the glare of first team scrutiny -- give them a break --if the same things happened on a regular basis next season then perhaps a harsher judgement can be made but not at present. Some here seem to expect instant miracles and a title challenge this season -- not going to happen ------------- what we can expect is a more organised, disciplined team (despite yesterday) and a team that will grow together. We are not it seems getting much of a mention for being a young team but the average age is one of the youngest in living memory -- a young team will not get worse and with luck and preparation will get better. We are being asked to be more positive. I am:) Lets see what we have here;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe.gausden Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Another very disappointing performance for Wallace. The opening 3 games have been a great opportunity for him to grab the left back position for the season but to be honest he has been murder and in my opinion is now running out of chances. Think Csaba now needs to sign a left back as he will want Obua in a more influential position. Sadly Wallace is going the same way as Simmons and Elliot. Spot on magicTs. His concentration is virtually non-existant. I know he's young but he's been about hte first team now for a few years. This was his big chance to make the LB jersey his own but so far he hasn't taken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 If he'd scored with that great run in the first few mins the chat on here would be very different i'd imagine. I honestly believe he's got a lot of talent. However, in saying that i fear that JammyT's comments might not be too far off the mark- needs to concentrate more and show the ability he undoubtedly has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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