Let's call them what they are

[Pasquale for King]

6 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

I’m not saying all folk should associate the British flag with unionism tied to the 1700’s, I’m sure many associate it with general Britishness or Olympics or like your own experience. But there’s no reason to bring a flag to a football match, unless it’s a flag that has the club crest, or maybe to show support for certain players. Like we’ve seen Aussie flags or Czech or Lithuanian flags like in the past. If someone breaks a Costa Rican flag out now no one bats an eye, because it’s obvious why that’s there.

But at a Scottish football match supporting a Scottish football team (as there’s no such thing as a British football team outside the 2012 Olympics) then having the UK flag there doesn’t make any sense in the context of football. So as you say it’s political because of the unionist/independence climate we’re in and have been in the last decade or so. But that in itself is tied back to 1707, which was in itself about religion.  Bonnie Prince Charlie and Culloden and all that. Not saying the coke headed teenagers holding the flag their lonely alcoholic uncles spent so much time and money putting together are clued up on this. But they’re singing hatred along with it at any rate.

Good post, but then we never saw any Irish flags when we had Maybury, Whelan, Mulraney or many of the others. 
National flags should be banned, you can’t even discuss them on here. 

[Pans Jambo]

3 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Bigots.

This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us.

I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway 

In July 1963.

I attended the following schools in chronological order.

Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary.

As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school.

What did I learn at these schools.

I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God.

 

So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. 

You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them.

Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. 

I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at.

So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off.

You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed.

Well said John.

 

Back in the 80's, I was one of the singers of the 'fenion-blood' songs and a few others but I was in my teens and I thought I was part of something larger than just me in the great swell under the old shed. 

 

Then I grew up!

 

I'm not catholic, and I've not been inside a church since I was forced to go to one by Prestonpans Primary School at Christmas in the early 80's. Never baptised, and it would be an embarrassment to call myself a protestant. Much the same as the 'FTP' brigade with the maroon union jacks 🤮 that sing the songs of the brain dead. They are clueless!

 

We don't need that lot at Tynecastle or in our away support.

 

I married a Catholic and we have children together. She's not been in a Chapel for at least 3 decades and my kids are secular! Probably much the same as the Celtic idiots who sing the IRA songs at Tynecastle.

 

This shite needs stamped out at our stadium.

[No Idle Talk]

There is a section, I believe it to be a small section, of our fanbase who appear to want to support Edinburgh Rangers instead of Heart of Midlothian. I refuse to associate myself with these people and will never join in with their hideous songbook, even if we happen to be playing Hibernian or Celtic at the time. 

 

They do nothing but sully the name of the club and the reputation of our supporters by singing that stuff.

Edited November 29 by No Idle Talk

[Pans Jambo]

1 hour ago, BigAlim said:

I also want to add that in England most of the fans don’t seem to have any idea if their club is a “catholic team” or a “protestant team” and they seem to get on with things alright 

This. 

Is it just a coincidence that the UJ flags are always beside the numpties we are talking about here?

[Tokyo Drifter]

Totally agree with the OP. This stuff's always there but seems to become even more visible when we're not doing so well. Not that that's any excuse.

[Vic Vespa]

A good OP and good to see on the whole well supported.

 

I too am Catholic, from a Catholic family and one I would also describe as a big Hearts family, the maroon scarves passed down to the kids, season ticket holders etc, I've heard the songbook all before as I started going in the 80's when it was as bad so sadly have grown used to it over the years, what is annoying at the moment is that it almost disappeared and I was happy about that, really hate the mini-hun tag, however finding it very sad that t's nearly 2025 and it has really returned with a vengeance.

 

I really can't understand the mentality of somebody singing anti-Catholic bile knowing full well there are fellow Hearts fans and players within earshot who are Catholic, it's bonkers, just support the team FFS.

 

Reasons why it's back, no idea, maybe with the Ultras there's more singing these days and groups of youngsters getting together and singing non stop, taking drugs, with older bigots rubbing there hands and gleefully passing over the torch along with their "wisdom and encouragement" some who genuinely believe Hearts are a protestant club when in reality it is, and always has been a club for all. Would imagine and rightly so there will be more focus on the Ultras away now, heard some disappointing tales recently,  I also think a part of it is to wind up fellow fans who they see as not proper Hearts Men, it is edgy and frowned upon so do it anyway, they know there will be a reaction and will be reading all this and laughing caring not a jot about the club they are meant to love. Finally, could also be a reaction to Celtic and to a lesser extent Hibs fans, for as long as they keep coming out with their stuff we have fans who will go to the opposite extremes, Brugge came just after a Celtic game where same issues happened and argued about.

 

Not an easy fix, but as always disappointed with the club, just ignore and hope it goes away.

[Hmfc1965]

1 hour ago, BigAlim said:

I also want to add that in England most of the fans don’t seem to have any idea if their club is a “catholic team” or a “protestant team” and they seem to get on with things alright 

No because they don't have teams that were expressly formed as Catholic teams.

Even then there are some teams that have a perceived affiliation.

[brownkg]

Hearing reports from friends who went to Brugges I am glad I did not have enough loyalty points to get a ticket in the first tranche and annoyed and sad in equal measure that the good name of HMFC has been incredibly tarnished by the actions of bigots in our support. Friends said they went for a meal after the game and then straight back to the hotel and bed the atmosphere was so toxic in the town. 
Our support were rightly praised for the behaviour in Florence but we are now consigned to the toxic dumping ground of the gruesome twosome.
The club needs to take firm action and publish their actions to stamp out this cancer in our support . It has certainly put paid to any chance of me , and many others, ever following Hearts abroad again till thi matter is properly dealt with.
Well said  John and others.

[Taffin]

16 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

The school didn't teach me that.

I learned that for myself. I learned. Not that we were taught.

Note the difference.

 

Apologies, I have misread that. At your schools you learned those things. The schools should probably have been teaching you how untrue what you learned was then in that case and that Catholics and non-Catholics don't eat the same, dress the same, speak the same language and believe in the same God. Some do, but the overwhelming majority don't.

[TheGorgieMaroon]

3 hours ago, Westendheart said:

Absolutely agree that the bigotry on display in Brugges shames our club and we need to do something about it. I have written to Hearts on numerous occasions on this theme but the club has been hijacked and now looks and sounds more and more like Rangers when we are representing Scotland in Europe.

The anti catholic songs are a disgrace. Time for the club to use banning orders.

The Gorgie Ultras seem to think Union flags and sectarian songs are obligatory when away from Tynecastle but the wider support are guilty too.

 

Totally agree, and find the "ultras" a bit of an embarrassment in general. Grown men swaggering down from Shandon with their sparklers and Catherine wheels, dressing all in black and calling their leaders "capos". 

 

Part of the deal for getting their own section was they'd back the team to the end and steer clear of the bigotry. All we saw against Celtic was the Rangers songbook and a fire drill long before the final whistle.

[5-1 it should have been 10]

I think we should make an effort to drown these bigots out by booing loudly whenever these songs get sung at tynecastle. 

[upgotheheads]

From Hearts website.

 

Spot an issue during the game?

Please text our Fan Reporting Service. If you see an issue of any sort during a match, then text, in confidence, our Fan Reporting Service number

Text07467 918874

 

[Pans Jambo]

3 minutes ago, 5-1 it should have been 10 said:

I think we should make an effort to drown these bigots out by booing loudly whenever these songs get sung at tynecastle. 

Correct. And pull down the union Jacks that are just there for the reason of pretending that they're diet Huns. They don't even know the Church of Scotland exists or where it is. Plastic huns.

Edited November 29 by Pans Jambo

[5-1 it should have been 10]

Boo them at any ground to be honest not just tynecastle

[Cruyff]

1 hour ago, vegas-voss said:

And I bet they have friends and work colleagues ( who they will get along with no problem ) who are Catholics.Its ****ing mental 

I hate that shit. It's just football. 

[Pasquale for King]

11 minutes ago, TheGorgieMaroon said:

 

Totally agree, and find the "ultras" a bit of an embarrassment in general. Grown men swaggering down from Shandon with their sparklers and Catherine wheels, dressing all in black and calling their leaders "capos". 

 

Part of the deal for getting their own section was they'd back the team to the end and steer clear of the bigotry. All we saw against Celtic was the Rangers songbook and a fire drill long before the final whistle.

Exactly, a bit cringe really and hardly intimidating to away fans or reminiscent of Galatasaray etc. 

[upgotheheads]

I've just sent the following to Hearts.

 

It's being reported on Kickback that a number of fans have disgraced us again with sectarian songs. Within the ground it seems to happen much less often that it used to, maybe because there is a way of reporting it. Would it be possible for the club to have someone at away games identifying those involved using whatever legal means are available? 
Permanent bans for even a few of the perpetrators would solve this problem very quickly.

 

A few follow-up emails might help. 
 

[Negan]

Don't see an issue with a union flag tbh

[Horatio Caine]

1 hour ago, vegas-voss said:

When you were at high school did you notice a big divide with Catholics.I certainly didn't and what religion are you taught at primary school that makes you have a hatred for Catholic's.

I don't have a hatred for Catholics. Where have I said that?

At school there was no issue with religion whatsoever. 

[Pasquale for King]

11 minutes ago, upgotheheads said:

From Hearts website.

 

Spot an issue during the game?

Please text our Fan Reporting Service. If you see an issue of any sort during a match, then text, in confidence, our Fan Reporting Service number

Text07467 918874

 

Or get in touch with this guy, had a meeting with him, hes good. 

[TexasAndy]

It will always be a problem in life as people refuse to acknowledge differences but in terms of Scotland and Scottish Football it's an illness that refuses to disappear because clusters of the population insist on keeping this alive through generations.  

[vegas-voss]

3 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said:

I don't have a hatred for Catholics. Where have I said that?

At school there was no issue with religion whatsoever. 

I meant you as general not you personally.Probably better phrased as are we taught and makes us

Edited November 29 by vegas-voss

[Rogue Daddy]

4 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Bigots.

This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us.

I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway 

In July 1963.

I attended the following schools in chronological order.

Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary.

As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school.

What did I learn at these schools.

I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God.

 

So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. 

You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them.

Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. 

I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at.

So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off.

You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed.

👏👏👏👍 Spot on!

[BackOfTheNet]

I’d actually be interested to hear what each FoH board nominee’s opinions are on these things. Do they denounce, avoid or support the behaviour? Do any of them participate in it themselves? I imagine a few must have been over there last night.

[Gorgie_Rules]

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

Good post, but then we never saw any Irish flags when we had Maybury, Whelan, Mulraney or many of the others. 
National flags should be banned, you can’t even discuss them on here. 

I agree with this if it is indeed the easiest way to eradicate the club being embarrassed.

 

There is a direct correlation at games between the bigotted/racist songs etc heard at this trip to the number of Union flags on display, a fact that can not be denied.

 

Only way it will be eradicated is:

 

1. Other fans take a stance and call it out - the issue with this is the individuals/groups bringing the bigotry/racism are the kind of folk who seek out the confrontation and don’t want discussion.

 

2. The board take a hard stance, call it out for what it is and ban the individuals involved in line with it not being values of the club/within the law - the issue with this is that despite showing backbone, it opens them up to criticism from a wider group from issuing bans/statements so they’ll burry their heads.

 

It is pretty embarrassing taking folk along to games/watching it with them with this sort of nonsense attached to the club. It only takes a small % of them for the wider fanbase to then be branded ‘wee huns’ - a tag that couldn’t be any more embarrassing/belittling.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 29 by Gorgie_Rules

[Fake Persona]

4 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Bigots.

This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us.

I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway 

In July 1963.

I attended the following schools in chronological order.

Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary.

As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school.

What did I learn at these schools.

I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God.

 

So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. 

You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them.

Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. 

I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at.

So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off.

You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed.

Respect mate

[Neon]

3 hours ago, tazhearts said:

I think blaming the Ultras is a wee bit harsh.  From what I saw, the main protagonists for the sectarian chants / songs were pissed up male supporters in the 40 - 55 year old bracket.

I could be wrong but I believe since the Ultras reformed they have been on their best behavior and a credit to the club. Suspecting by the low post count of both the posters commenting on them are interlopers.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

You need context

THe mine owners in Scotland created seperate catholic protestant villages in an attempt to split the Union

THey encouraged sectarianism

THe Churches also encouraged conflict  THere was a motion discussed At The General Assemblycalling for compulsory repatration of Irish catholics.

THe Catholic church  did not want a well educated flock who would see through thier teachings and would not allow mixed faith marriages

THe political climate has lurched to the right,but i am proud to remember a prominent member of Penicuick Hearts SC chasing one of their sellers along Gorgie road

 

[Pasquale for King]

5 minutes ago, Gorgie_Rules said:

I agree with this if it is indeed the easiest way to eradicate the club being embarrassed.

 

There is a direct correlation at games between the bigotted/racist songs etc heard at this trip to the number of Union flags on display, a fact that can not be denied.

 

Only it will be eradicated is:

 

1. Other fans take a stance and call it out - the issue with this is the individuals/groups bringing the bigotry/racism are the kind of folk who seek out the confrontation and don’t want discussion.

 

2. The board take a hard stance, call it out for what it is and ban the individuals involved in line with it not being values of the club/within the law - the issue with this is that despite showing backbone, it opens them up to criticism from a wider group from issuing bans/statements so they’ll burry their heads.

 

It is pretty embarrassing taking folk along to games/watching it with them with this sort of nonsense attached to the club. It only takes a small % of them for the wider fanbase to then be branded ‘wee huns’ - a tag that couldn’t be any more embarrassing/belittling.

 

 

 

 

Agreed. 
I don’t think the UJ flag is unaligned with the values of the board though. 
Obviously the singing is illegal but they haven’t condemned it as far as im aware. 
I had organised three tickets for a work mate and her parents last Saturday, thankfully being Canadian they didn’t really understand the disgusting songs from both ends. 
As a fanbase we are rarely in agreement about most topics, but we seem extremely fractured at the moment.,

[Pasquale for King]

19 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

I’d actually be interested to hear what each FoH board nominee’s opinions are on these things. Do they denounce, avoid or support the behaviour? Do any of them participate in it themselves? I imagine a few must have been over there last night.

I know one who would’ve been right in the middle of it all, needless to say i didn’t vote for him.

[Neon]

Just to add any Hibernian interlopers looking in and trying to rile up the fanbase can you take a step back for a moment and consider the context of the thread.

 

 

You may wish to start a similar one on .net

[John Findlay]

44 minutes ago, Negan said:

Don't see an issue with a union flag tbh

I have no issue with the flag either, Christ I hoisted it enough times up a Jackstaff in my Eleven years in the Navy.

I do however have a problem when it is used to tarnish the name of the football club I have watched since 1965, and love with thousands of others.

[Pasquale for King]

4 minutes ago, Neon said:

I could be wrong but I believe since the Ultras reformed they have been on their best behavior and a credit to the club. Suspecting by the low post count of both the posters commenting on them are interlopers.

 

In Tynecastle yes, although there was altercations with Celtic fans in corporate last Saturday. The whole march from the Shandon, pissing off our neighbours(pets, OAPs and disabled folk) isn’t a great idea. 
Quite a few folk have mentioned that their numbers swell away from home and their behaviour degenerates also. 

[Neon]

3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

In Tynecastle yes, although there was altercations with Celtic fans in corporate last Saturday. The whole march from the Shandon, pissing off our neighbours(pets, OAPs and disabled folk) isn’t a great idea. 
Quite a few folk have mentioned that their numbers swell away from home and their behaviour degenerates also. 

Wondering if this is due to football banning orders at Tynecastle?

 

If so, is it only for home games? then Hearts should share their information with other clubs, I know that the courts can issue nationwide banning orders but I believe the club have issued bans on individuals not being brought before the courts.

Edited November 29 by Neon

[Scud]

Totally agree with the OP, a great post.

Like many have said before, everyone should absolutley be welcome at Hearts. This,with my fairness hat on, includes the folk who sing their songs of hate and wave their silly little flags. For those who like that sort of thing, maybe keep YOUR hateful emotions and views to yourselves for 90 mins, for the benefit of everyone involved with HMFC. Everyone else keeps their political / religious beliefs to themselves, so why do you have to spout your moronic bile and divide us all? You do not represent me, the club or the majority of well rounded Hearts fans.

For a bit of equilibrium and on a personal note, I play drums in a well respected anti fascist punk band - playing our songs of anti racism / anti homophobia / the class divide etc across the UK, Europe,

 and The States. We're passionate, loud and angry about it. But you know what? I'm not gonna stand up at Tynie and start belting out Bella Ciao and imposing MY beliefs on others around me, because it's got nothing to do with ******* football!! 

If you're a gay black Jehovas Witness, great! Staunch unionist? Good for you! Just watch the football, keep religion and politics out of the songbook and support the ******* team, they need it!

 

[BackOfTheNet]

6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I know one who would’ve been right in the middle of it all, needless to say i didn’t vote for him.

Let’s just say from what I’ve heard from some who know those nominated that I have reason to be suspicious of the same

[cheetah]

9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I know one who would’ve been right in the middle of it all, needless to say i didn’t vote for him.

 

2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

Let’s just say from what I’ve heard from some who know those nominated that I have reason to be suspicious of the same

 

Come on then, out with the name. 

[Pasquale for King]

4 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said:

Let’s just say from what I’ve heard from some who know those nominated that I have reason to be suspicious of the same

👍🏽

[Pasquale for King]

7 minutes ago, Scud said:

Totally agree with the OP, a great post.

Like many have said before, everyone should absolutley be welcome at Hearts. This,with my fairness hat on, includes the folk who sing their songs of hate and wave their silly little flags. For those who like that sort of thing, maybe keep YOUR hateful emotions and views to yourselves for 90 mins, for the benefit of everyone involved with HMFC. Everyone else keeps their political / religious beliefs to themselves, so why do you have to spout your moronic bile and divide us all? You do not represent me, the club or the majority of well rounded Hearts fans.

For a bit of equilibrium and on a personal note, I play drums in a well respected anti fascist punk band - playing our songs of anti racism / anti homophobia / the class divide etc across the UK, Europe,

 and The States. We're passionate, loud and angry about it. But you know what? I'm not gonna stand up at Tynie and start belting out Bella Ciao and imposing MY beliefs on others around me, because it's got nothing to do with ******* football!! 

If you're a gay black Jehovas Witness, great! Staunch unionist? Good for you! Just watch the football, keep religion and politics out of the songbook and support the ******* team, they need it!

 

Hear hear 

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, cheetah said:

 

 

Come on then, out with the name. 

Have a look at the nominations, look for their social media, it’s pretty obvious if you have any knowledge of our support.

[cheetah]

2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Have a look at the nominations, look for their social media, it’s pretty obvious if you have any knowledge of our support.

why can't you just tell me?

[Pasquale for King]

10 minutes ago, Neon said:

Wondering if this is due to football banning orders at Tynecastle?

 

If so, is it only for home games? then Hearts should share their information with other clubs, I know that the courts can issue nationwide banning orders but I believe the club have issued bans on individuals not being brought before the courts.

Possibly, there are folk banned in Section N all the time, other folk buy them tickets. 
I had my ST cancelled after the RC game, due to a misunderstanding, and had a few emails and a meeting with the LSO Iain Grommet. 
I would be lying to say I hadn’t thought of other ways of going to games , the club doesn’t have the resources to check folk going in. 

[Pasquale for King]

2 minutes ago, cheetah said:

why can't you just tell me?

I wouldn’t name names on here, could be you.

[stirlo]

I think some of the discussion about religion on here is missing the point a bit. One of the crazy things about these songs is that they have very little relevance to most people in Scotland or indeed the UK in 2024. That's why I would have found it hard to believe 20 years ago that this sort of idiocy would still be going on today. But the fact of these songs still being sung even if it's by a completely misguided (and possibly predominantly young) minority, as well as being a disgrace, is a total embarrassment to the majority of Hearts fans. 

 

I definitely think that the FOH has a role to play here. Foundation members are essentially the owners of the club and while I know the phrase 'real fan' is a bit of a loaded one, those of us who are members of the foundation can certainly claim to be true Hearts fans. So I'd like to see the foundation put out a statement that the foundation totally condemns these chants and that the foundation sees Hearts as a largely apolitical organisation. Anyone who doesn't like that is welcome to leave the foundation - and guess what, I suspect the vast majority of the idiots who sing these songs aren't members to start with. I know that such a statement would seem to most sensible people as a statement of the bleeding obvious, but at the very least it would send the message that the cretins who sing these songs do not represent the 8000+ of us who actually care about the club to the extent of funding it.  

 

[cheetah]

Just now, Pasquale for King said:

I wouldn’t name names on here, could be you.

 Then why mention it, if someone up for nomination for FOH is indulging in that kind of behaviour then I think we need to know.

 

It's not me, I stopped going to away games many moons ago, also not up for nomination either.

[Korky]

38 minutes ago, Neon said:

Just to add any Hibernian interlopers looking in and trying to rile up the fanbase can you take a step back for a moment and consider the context of the thread.

 

 

You may wish to start a similar one on .net

Yes, those indulging in sectarian singing at the Celtic game and behaving like thugs in Bruges last night were undoubtedly, ‘Hibernian interlopers’.

[BackOfTheNet]

36 minutes ago, cheetah said:

 

 

Come on then, out with the name. 

Now let’s not make a mountain out of a mole hill here. I clearly said I don’t have any personal knowledge and have only reason to be suspicious based on what I’ve been told by those who know or have known those nominated. As I can’t personally testify to anything it wouldn’t be fair of me to name anyone. But as Pasquale says, you can scrounge social media enough to get an inkling I’m sure…

[Morgan]

6 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Bigots.

This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us.

I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway 

In July 1963.

I attended the following schools in chronological order.

Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary.

As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school.

What did I learn at these schools.

I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God.

 

So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. 

You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them.

Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. 

I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at.

So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off.

You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed.

Brilliant post, John.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

Or get in touch with this guy, had a meeting with him, hes good. 

If he had stood in that end last night I would like to have seen his report. Maybe an interview with this guy would be helpful if not an eye opener.

[Der Kaiser]

Never sang the Billy Boys. Embarrassing to sing it in this day and age. 

 

Years back a guy beside us asked a lad with a Northern Ireland flag why he had it.

"Because it winds up Celtic fans"

"Do you know why it winds them up"

".......no..."