John Findlay Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Plenty of reasons why I like some folk and am ambivalent to others. The colour of your skin, your sex, the religion you choose (or have forced onto you) and your sexual preferences aren't amongst the reasons. Everyone should be welcome at Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 34 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Needs said. Some of the stuff here in Bruges was disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 36 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Here here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 37 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 I have nothing but contempt for bigots, of any persuasion, or racists for that matter. I certainly don't want to be associated with them. The bigots who infect the Hearts support bring shame on our football club and tarnish the reputation of the vast majority of good, decent Hearts fans. I wish they would clear off to their spiritual home in Govan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Flag shaggers and singers of such songs are weird. Honestly thought it was a thing of the past but certainly in the last 10-15 years it’s cropped up. Likely the usual divorced bald headed coke snorting uncles that are warping the minds of their impressionable nephews, but these young laddies with hovering wig like modern do’s need to think for themselves and realise that they support a football club, which has NOTHING to do with a conflict in another country from half a century ago and beyond. It’s one thing to sing along with a catchy tune not knowing its meaning, that can be forgiven. But once you know its meaning and continue to sing it - in the name of “atmosphere”, I’m sorry but that crosses the line into bigot. And you’re just acting like bellends, because you know what you’re doing when you do it, yet you still do it. And by the way this goes for any supporter of any club that brings non footballing matters into why they support the club. If your support for Hearts is contingent on anything other than it was your local club, you’re parent’s club, you came from a non football supporting family and just liked the club, then your support is weird. Supporting a club believing it has links to another country or religion or anything of that ilk in this day in age is preposterous and you should be called out for the idiots you are for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 39 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. So what's the difference between a Catholic school and a non Catholic school ? And why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 42 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: So what's the difference between a Catholic school and a non Catholic school ? And why? Fr Cassidy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Cercle Jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: So what's the difference between a Catholic school and a non Catholic school ? And why? What's the schooling system, which you can either agree or disagree with, got to do with supporting Hearts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 44 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Brilliant posting John . I hardly ever mentioned that some of my family are Catholic due to the intolerance of some on here . I freely admit some are Hibbes but that gets less hostile responses . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Brilliant posting John . I hardly ever mentioned that some of my family are Catholic due to the intolerance of some on here . I freely admit some are Hibbes but that gets less hostile responses . I've never hid fact I'm a Catholic although a don't practice religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westendheart Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 (edited) Absolutely agree that the bigotry on display in Brugges shames our club and we need to do something about it. I have written to Hearts on numerous occasions on this theme but the club has been hijacked and now looks and sounds more and more like Rangers when we are representing Scotland in Europe. The anti catholic songs are a disgrace. Time for the club to use banning orders. The Gorgie Ultras seem to think Union flags and sectarian songs are obligatory when away from Tynecastle but the wider support are guilty too. Edited November 29, 2024 by Westendheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: I've never hid fact I'm a Catholic although a don't practice religion 👍👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 11 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: So what's the difference between a Catholic school and a non Catholic school ? And why? 👏 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 The fact that catholic schools exist is one of the big problems. How do we expect to resolve these problems when kids are separated into tribes at an early age . And let’s not pretend that this is a one sided problem as it certainly is not. There is equal amount of stupidity in both sides. and I speak as someone who has a large side of the family who are catholic also. it has more to do with politics than religion tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: What's the schooling system, which you can either agree or disagree with, got to do with supporting Hearts? Exactly.as the op stated the teachings in the roman Catholic school was not to hate"were all the same" so why have a different school in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Shame on them all. The way the world is going, folk like that will be fearless with what they sing and how they act. No respect, just thugs on a power trip who really need to face some serious repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haj Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Honestly, the amount of times I’ve thought about chucking it because of the right wing/racist/homophobic etc patter at Hearts games. But I always remind myself of my Hearts daft Grandad, an old school labour guy from Musselburgh who worked his life down the mines and it’s just like nah, you pricks don’t get to dictate the image of the football club or who is welcome through the gates at Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: The fact that catholic schools exist is one of the big problems. How do we expect to resolve these problems when kids are separated into tribes at an early age . And let’s not pretend that this is a one sided problem as it certainly is not. There is equal amount of stupidity in both sides. and I speak as someone who has a large side of the family who are catholic also. it has more to do with politics than religion tbh. Politics and religion 2 divisive subjects within society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HmfcLions Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, Westendheart said: Absolutely agree that the bigotry on display in Brugges shames our club and we need to do something about it. I have written to Hearts on numerous occasions on this theme but the club has been hijacked and now looks and sounds more and more like Rangers when we are representing Scotland in Europe. The anti catholic songs are a disgrace. Time for the club to use banning orders. The Gorgie Ultras seem to think Union flags and sectarian songs are obligatory when away from Tynecastle but the wider support are guilty too. I’ve said all along the “ultras” act like perfectly behaved wee schoolboys when at home and can’t wait to brag about their charity toy drives etc, yet are coked up to their eyeballs and behave terribly at away games where they think they’ll have less spotlight on them. When they are self proclaimed “led” by well known bigots like Freddie Heron they’ll never go far as the club doesn’t trust them - as they are perfectly right to do. Bunch of immature arseholes who think they are more entitled than other fans especially on away trips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbofordGHC Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Not just bigots but racists also. Shouts of ****** b****** towards Dhanda from a group around me who spent the whole night trying to start up singing about the sash. A sad night on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Politics and religion 2 divisive subjects within society Absolute poison. Kids are being fed religious and political propaganda at school in catholic and non catholic schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Just now, kingantti1874 said: Absolute poison. Kids are being fed religious and political propaganda at school in catholic and non catholic schools. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, heartmussel said: 👏 👏 Why are you applauding? Why does it make a difference what school anyone attends? Hearts supporters can be whatever religion they want. Additionally, Hearts supporters can believe religion is made up nonsense. These songs have no place at Hearts games. No excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, RobbofordGHC said: Not just bigots but racists also. Shouts of ****** b****** towards Dhanda from a group around me who spent the whole night trying to start up singing about the sash. A sad night on and off the pitch. Absolutely brutal , dark dark night for the 99% of Hearts supporters who deplore this toxic behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, RobbofordGHC said: Not just bigots but racists also. Shouts of ****** b****** towards Dhanda from a group around me who spent the whole night trying to start up singing about the sash. A sad night on and off the pitch. According to some on here, fault of catholic schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 They can't handle their drink , drugs and whatever else these days A lot of arseholes just turn up for a big day out and some don't even know the players names, the bravado kick's in and they are all over the place There is shit like this in every support , a minority spoiling it for the majority Society in Scotland is in the bin and obviously a lack of respect and education is an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Why are you applauding? Why does it make a difference what school anyone attends? Hearts supporters can be whatever religion they want. Additionally, Hearts supporters can believe religion is made up nonsense. These songs have no place at Hearts games. No excuses. He's applauding my statement .is that not clear?it was the op that was on about Catholic schools and non Catholic ones and the percentage of hearts supporters in each.to what ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Absolute poison. Kids are being fed religious and political propaganda at school in catholic and non catholic schools. WTF has this got to do with football? I'm an atheist and would gladly vote to end all religious observance in Catholic or non-demonational schools but you and I both know that the bigots who tarnish our club aren't interested in that. Get them tae ***. Edited November 29, 2024 by Gundermann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 29, 2024 Author Share Posted November 29, 2024 8 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: Exactly.as the op stated the teachings in the roman Catholic school was not to hate"were all the same" so why have a different school in the first place. Let me make myself clear. I wasn't taught hate at any of the schools I attended. Why so many schools? Royston. I lived round the corner from the school. It was a Thirty seconds walk away. My father(from a Staunch, and I mean staunch protestant family), didn't see the sense of me walking half a mile and crossing a main road(Crewe Road North) to attend St David's when there was a school just around the corner. My mum and dad got married at Leith registrary office as his dad refused to enter the chapel and my mum's dad refused to enter the kirk. My father to his great credit in my eyes. Called both his father and father in law bigots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Called them out for what they are. bigots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westendheart Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Not sure that I would go on anymore European trips with Hearts as the occasion was ruined by bigots and sectarian songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithian Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Very good opening post. I am also Catholic, but I’m not personally bothered too terribly by chants. I take it lazy banter. I do think any sectarian or otherwise hateful song should be fought, but people taking part in those gross moments would just be doing other offensive activities even if we binned all the religious and political talk. I also am separated by an ocean. Not as noticeable on Hearts International. To those who are more face to face with the hateful elements of our support, don’t be quiet about it if you’re offended. All that accomplishes is ceding the space to them. Hearts did a very good thing giving space for the Ultras and other groups to thrive. The problem is now they have to push back on the bad while rewarding the good, and that isn’t easy. But it’s a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinbox98 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Well said that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerja Jambo Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Well said Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said: They can't handle their drink , drugs and whatever else these days A lot of arseholes just turn up for a big day out and some don't even know the players names, the bravado kick's in and they are all over the place There is shit like this in every support , a minority spoiling it for the majority Society in Scotland is in the bin and obviously a lack of respect and education is an issue This is true actually, guys that spend a fortune going to away games, sometimes spending £300-£400 for a day when you take into account the match ticket, travel, drink, food and “gear” (anyone using that term immediately tells the rest of the population they’re a pathetic arsehole) think they’re somehow better than fans that buy a season ticket go to all the home games but no away ones. A lot are not doing the away days to support the club, might be part of it, but it’s because they want the day out. Which is fine, but don’t pretend you’re better than fans who actually invest time and money into the club, supporting the club and caring about the club. For footballing reasons. Nothing more or less. Football. Because it’s a football club FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Let me make myself clear. I wasn't taught hate at any of the schools I attended. Why so many schools? Royston. I lived round the corner from the school. It was a Thirty seconds walk away. My father(from a Staunch, and I mean staunch protestant family), didn't see the sense of me walking half a mile and crossing a main road(Crewe Road North) to attend St David's when there was a school just around the corner. My mum and dad got married at Leith registrary office as his dad refused to enter the chapel and my mum's dad refused to enter the kirk. My father to his great credit in my eyes. Called both his father and father in law bigots. But you saw fit to make the camel ride at the end of your schooling to St Thomas's.things don't add up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 The biggest question never gets asked : What has it got to do with Football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted November 29, 2024 Author Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Kev1998 said: But you saw fit to make the camel ride at the end of your schooling to St Thomas's.things don't add up Do me a favour and read again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth to Paisley Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 (edited) Don't let this turn into a separate schools discussion. Bottom line; we are a football club and not a platform for racist, bigoted or sectarian idiots. They are 100% not welcome. It's time the club and FoH spoke up. The respective AGM's would be a good start. Edited November 29, 2024 by Perth to Paisley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, Gundermann said: WTF has this got to do with football? I'm an atheist and would gladly vote to end all religious observance in Catholic or non-demonational schools but you and I both know that the bigots who tarnish our club aren't interested in that. Get them tae ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 39 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: So what's the difference between a Catholic school and a non Catholic school ? And why? 6 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: But you saw fit to make the camel ride at the end of your schooling to St Thomas's.things don't add up What are you getting at? you’re a right weirdo of a poster, sniff sniff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. good stuff John 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rannoch Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, John Findlay said: Bigots. This shouldn't really matter in this day and age, but alas it does to the braindead amongst us. I am a Catholic, in that I was baptised a Catholic aged just Three months at Saint Margaret Mary's chapel Boswall Parkway In July 1963. I attended the following schools in chronological order. Royston Primary, Almond Bank primary Livingston, Dalmuir West primary, Dalmuir, Pirniehall primary, St Catherine's primary, St Peter's primary, and last but not least ST Thomas of Aquins Secondary. As you can see I attended Four non-Catholic schools before I attended a Catholic school. My secondary school was interesting as for the four years I was there. We only had Eighty boys, of those Eighty boys at least Twenty of us were Heart of Midlothian supporters. That's Twenty Five percent of us. A whole one quarter of us at a Catholic school. What did I learn at these schools. I learned that Catholic and non-Catholics are no different to each other. We wear the same clothes, speak the same language, and use the same swear words. Eat the same food, and allegedly believe in the same God. So to those of you in the Heart of Midlothian support who revel in singing being up to your knees in Fenian blood(which you mean Catholics) will you just do all us right thinking Heart of Midlothian supporters a favour and **** right off. You hate the IRA, guess what, so do I and unlike ninety nine percent of you, I went up against them. Ninety nine percent of you would shite your pants if you ever bumped into them. Here's the thing I also hate the UDA. They are no different to the IRA terrorists just the same. I think I can speak for all right minded Heart of Midlothian supporters when I say. You are not wanted at Tynecastle, and you are not wanted at any football ground that The Heart of Midlothian at playing at. So take yourselves and your pishy ditties/songs and **** right off. You are not wanted, more to the point you are not needed. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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