Kickback v Jamestown January window

[Der Kaiser]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

What’s the actual point of posts like that ? Never understood it. Humour possibly but I’m buggered if I ever laugh at them 

 

I think they're very similar to posts second guessing about what players we could bring in or let go in January or speculation about other clubs buying our players.

 

 

[Gordon_1874]

A striker in the mould of Gerald Taylor, preferably one who puts in performances like the one against Rangers and not Dundee.

[RustyRightPeg]

Just now, Gordon_1874 said:

A striker in the mould of Gerald Taylor, preferably one who puts in performances like the one against Rangers and not Dundee.

If they can finish like Taylor did at a Dundee though that would be a bonus 

[Dallas Green]

52 minutes ago, cazzyy said:

 

Did his team not get humped? I'm sure they were 3 or 4 down before half time.

Aye finished 3-1 and Patrick Kisnorbo is Melbourne Victory's Manager!

[Hømme]

Curtis Main scores high on the analytics and from good sources Jamestown says we were far too hasty in getting shot of Haliday so we are going back in for him

 

[Lone Striker]

55 minutes ago, Hømme said:

Curtis Main scores high on the analytics and from good sources Jamestown says we were far too hasty in getting shot of Haliday so we are going back in for him

 

Main was a regular one-in-six scorer for Motherwell, Aberdeen and St.Mirren - but has only scored once in 20+ outings for Dundee.    Age 32.  IIRC, he generally had a 2nd striker alongside him at these clubs.

 

Not sure Halliday warrants another spell at Hearts if we're trying to add speed and energy to the team. He's 33 now.

[Regular John]

I think we need to trust the system and go with Main.

 

It'll incorporate other aspects that we won't always consider, such as suitability to our tactics and league familiarity, and also no unconscious bias because it's Curtis Main so I hope we snap him up.

[Der Kaiser]

Curtis Main?

 

Sounds like the computer has a virus. Delete.

[Ron Burgundy]

I’d take anyone with a work ethic and a sense of pride after that shit show. 

[RobNox]

2 hours ago, tiger Rudi said:

Are all their contracts not up at the end of the season? Can't see us getting any bids in January tbh.

Not necessarily bids for them, but if we make it known that we won't be renewing their contracts we might be able to offload them on loan deals or even agree a deal to release them and let them sign for a new club.

[Arthur Morgan]

Does anyone think that Salazar and Taylor were actually Jamestown picks? I think they were tbh. I also think Brighton had some say in us getting Vargas too. I think Taylor would have improved massively under Critchley as well, which is a shame. I like Oyegoke but he isn't attacking enough for me. Taylor was more complete, imo. 

Edited October 28 by Arthur Morgan

[jambotony]

1 hour ago, Arthur Morgan said:

Does anyone think that Salazar and Taylor were actually Jamestown picks? I think they were tbh. I also think Brighton had some say in us getting Vargas too. I think Taylor would have improved massively under Critchley as well, which is a shame. I like Oyegoke but he isn't attacking enough for me. Taylor was more complete, imo. 

I agree, i also think we've been dealing with Bloom for a lot longer than people think. I give you Cochrane & Offiah

[gregzy2k7]

Danny Armstrong and Lyall Cameron on pre contracts would be good business imo.

[Pingu]

I'd love us to sign two players - one winger and one striker - who turn out to be the best players at the club.

 

Take "quality over quantity" to an extreme. 

 

We can make bigger changes in the summer.

[jamboinglasgow]

I would be surprised if we signed more than 3 players this January. And even then my gut feeling is 2 players this January.

[OTT]

10 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

I would be surprised if we signed more than 3 players this January. And even then my gut feeling is 2 players this January.

 

Wondering if the focus will be on getting several out to replace with a couple. 

[RustyRightPeg]

2 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said:

Danny Armstrong and Lyall Cameron on pre contracts would be good business imo.

Armstrong has been utter shit this season. 
 

On last seasons form fair enough, but he’s never provided any proof he can do it in consecutive seasons or over a prolonged period. 
 

Cameron, yes but he doesnt add the physicality we lack. 

[tiger Rudi]

5 hours ago, jambotony said:

I agree, i also think we've been dealing with Bloom for a lot longer than people think. I give you Cochrane & Offiah

I think the Cochrane one was maybe our connection with Weir initially. Bloom will have noticed that we developed him and made a profit. I think he will have done his due diligence, saw that we are a well run club and also one that has the potential to do more than we currently do. Breaking the monopoly of the OF would be viewed as an outstanding success of his analytical systems and bring him a fair whack of money, from future sales.

Hearts standing within Scotland would almost ensure him European football each year (bit of a hiccup this season I know) without doing too much in the transfer front initially. He will view us as a very safe gamble tbh.

 

[tiger Rudi]

1 hour ago, Pingu said:

I'd love us to sign two players - one winger and one striker - who turn out to be the best players at the club.

 

Take "quality over quantity" to an extreme. 

 

We can make bigger changes in the summer.

I would think Critchley has already come to that conclusion. Painfully short of genuine pace up front and wide. A couple of loan deals in January using his connections in England, with the Bloom analytics doing their stuff in the summer.

Squad will look a lot different next season with quite a few leaving I would think.

[spacerjoe]

Are these transfer threads going to become a bit pointless now if a computer is in charge?

[Forrest]

18 hours ago, tazhearts said:

I agree with this. 

 

Ideally the striker should be the long term Shankland replacement although that might prove tricky in the January window.  We definitely need another option up there.  Hopefully 6ft+, fast and can hold the ball up. 

 

At least one quality out and out winger with bags of pace.

I don't think we're going to have long-term players, whether they replace Shankland or play elsewhere. The whole point of the system is that they play well, we sell them on for a profit, and we already have the replacement in the ranks waiting to come in, hit the ground running, and make us more money further down the line. And repeat. 

[jbee647]

I don’t think we will spend any money in January, possibly bring in a couple of loans.

 

[jbee647]

7 hours ago, spacerjoe said:

Are these transfer threads going to become a bit pointless now if a computer is in charge?

Very likely long term 

[fabienleclerq]

I'm not expecting much in January tbh, I think we need attacking options certainly but it's not the best market for value.

[boag1874]

I really don't think we need to go daft in January & I think between now & then the players we have will continue to improve. The one player we're dying out for is a physical forward, someone good in the air & who can hold the ball up - a Kevin Kyle type if you will.

[Bazzas right boot]

20 hours ago, hearts00 said:

By the end if the season Taylor, Salazar, Boyce, Halkett, McKay and Grant will all be moved on. That’s a lot of wages freed up. 

 

Shankland as well.

I think the summer will see the big  changes.

I can also see Oda,  Zander  and maybe Devlin leaving.

 

Hopefully Boateng stays after his loan and Beni extends.

If not, we might sell Beni and we'd need to replace Boateng.

 

It will be a completely different Hearts team next season, the end of a mini era and the dawn of the new Bloom era.

 

Not convinced too much will happen in January unless we go on an amazing run and are close to 3rd or still ****ing about in the bottom 2.

 

 

[RustyRightPeg]

2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Shankland as well.

I think the summer will see the big  changes.

I can also see Oda,  Zander  and maybe Devlin leaving.

 

Hopefully Boateng stays after his loan and Beni extends.

If not, we might sell Beni and we'd need to replace Boateng.

 

It will be a completely different Hearts team next season, the end of a mini era and the dawn of the new Bloom era.

 

Not convinced too much will happen in January unless we go on an amazing run and are close to 3rd or still ****ing about in the bottom 2.

 

 

Part of what made the job so attractive for a manager. 

[soonbe110]

20 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

think we will try and keep Taylor myself. 

Current management haven’t seen him and don’t know him.  Unless he is back fully fit before end of season I doubt they will take a chance on a permanent move when the analytics will be coming up with less risky options. ATM it looks like we have two decent rb’s with potential. 

[Chuck Berry]

7 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

Hopefully Boateng stays

 

I hope so to, given he signed a three year deal.........

[Paris 84]

9 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Shankland as well.

I think the summer will see the big  changes.

I can also see Oda,  Zander  and maybe Devlin leaving.

 

Hopefully Boateng stays after his loan and Beni extends.

If not, we might sell Beni and we'd need to replace Boateng.

 

It will be a completely different Hearts team next season, the end of a mini era and the dawn of the new Bloom era.

 

Not convinced too much will happen in January unless we go on an amazing run and are close to 3rd or still ****ing about in the bottom 2.

 

 

Boateng’s not on loan. 

[kingantti1874]

5 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Current management haven’t seen him and don’t know him.  Unless he is back fully fit before end of season I doubt they will take a chance on a permanent move when the analytics will be coming up with less risky options. ATM it looks like we have two decent rb’s with potential. 

all true.  That said - I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the Jamestown actually identified GT.  i know there was a connection with Forrest or McEvoy also.  

 

Let’s see - possibly the emergence forrester will influence that decision and we undoubtedly have bigger priorities than RB now.  2 strikers and a pacy winger urgent imo.  If shanks isn’t signing would prefer to sign and bed in his replacement this season given third already gone in all likelihood 

Edited October 28 by kingantti1874

[RustyRightPeg]

12 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Shankland as well.

I think the summer will see the big  changes.

I can also see Oda,  Zander  and maybe Devlin leaving.

 

Hopefully Boateng stays after his loan and Beni extends.

If not, we might sell Beni and we'd need to replace Boateng.

 

It will be a completely different Hearts team next season, the end of a mini era and the dawn of the new Bloom era.

 

Not convinced too much will happen in January unless we go on an amazing run and are close to 3rd or still ****ing about in the bottom 2.

 

 

Boateng is on a 3 year deal and Beni extended in the summer. 
 

Mondays eh 😉 

[soonbe110]

4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

all true.  That said - I wouldn’t be surprised to learn the Jamestown actually identified GT.  i know there was a connection with Forrest, McEvoy also.  

 

Let’s see - possibly the emergence forrester will influence that decision and we will have bigger priorities than RB

I’d be really surprised if we have been using Jamestown much in the past.  Their services are far from cheap and they only work with a handful of chosen clubs.  Without a contract being in place I doubt if they would have given us much info before this summer.   If the speculation is true and Salazar, Taylor and Vargas are their recommendations then I’m a bit worried tbh. 

Edited October 28 by soonbe110

[Bazzas right boot]

8 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said:

 

I hope so to, given he signed a three year deal.........

 

Ahh, sweet.

 

****ing eejit.

I thought he was on loan.

[Bazzas right boot]

3 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Boateng is on a 3 year deal and Beni extended in the summer. 
 

Mondays eh 😉 

 

Yeah, but Beni will have 1 year from this summer,  that's the time to sell if he doesn't extend. 

 

Boateng,  I thought he was on loan- doh.

 

 

[RustyRightPeg]

Just now, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Yeah, but Beni will have 1 year from this summer,  that's the time to sell if he doesn't extend. 

 

Boateng,  I thought he was on loan- doh.

 

 

Beni extended so we could sell him though; that’s realistically what happened. 
 

He always said he’d make us money cause we took a chance on him when nobody else would. 
 

I’d be astounded if he signed another extension. 

[Chuck Berry]

2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Ahh, sweet.

 

****ing eejit.

I thought he was on loan.

 

We have him until 2027, and Beni until 2026.

[Forrest]

5 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

 If the speculation is true and Salazar, Taylor and Vargas are their recommendations then I’m a bit worried tbh. 

No need to be worried. It's difficult to tell with Salazar as we've barely seen him, but GT and Kenny definitely have the potential to improve if they receive his coaching. 

Edited October 28 by Forrest
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[Auld Reekin']

19 hours ago, Hømme said:

Curtis Main scores high on the analytics and from good sources Jamestown says we were far too hasty in getting shot of Haliday so we are going back in for him

 

 

[soonbe110]

16 minutes ago, Forrest said:

No need to be worried. It's difficult to tell with Salazar as we've barely seen him, but GT and Kenny definitely have the potential to improve if they receive his coaching. 

Hope you are right though I’m not yet convinced. 

[RustyRightPeg]

25 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

I’d be really surprised if we have been using Jamestown much in the past.  Their services are far from cheap and they only work with a handful of chosen clubs.  Without a contract being in place I doubt if they would have given us much info before this summer.   If the speculation is true and Salazar, Taylor and Vargas are their recommendations then I’m a bit worried tbh. 

Think people forget Vargas got into double figures last season in terms of goals. Shouldn’t be dismissed as bad as his decision making can be. 

[Bazzas right boot]

15 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Think people forget Vargas got into double figures last season in terms of goals. Shouldn’t be dismissed as bad as his decision making can be. 

 

Fair, he just needs rotated and maybe used from the bench more, but we can't as we need his pace as an option.

 

 

[gwd1957]

1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Shankland as well.

I think the summer will see the big  changes.

I can also see Oda,  Zander  and maybe Devlin leaving.

 

Hopefully Boateng stays after his loan and Beni extends.

If not, we might sell Beni and we'd need to replace Boateng.

 

It will be a completely different Hearts team next season, the end of a mini era and the dawn of the new Bloom era.

 

Not convinced too much will happen in January unless we go on an amazing run and are close to 3rd or still ****ing about in the bottom 2.

 

 

Boateng signed 3 year deal

[Fraggle]

20 hours ago, tiger Rudi said:

Are all their contracts not up at the end of the season? Can't see us getting any bids in January tbh.

I'd be trying to get them loaned out in January for the remainder of their contracts (admittedly easier said than done. Try and get some of their wages off our bill. I reckon Boyce could end up at Ross County in January, Salazars loan cancelled, Halket loaned off back to Livi.

[Bazzas right boot]

26 minutes ago, gwd1957 said:

Boateng signed 3 year deal

 

Aye, if only someone had said.

 

[RustyRightPeg]

9 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Aye, if only someone had said.

 

2027 mate, signed this summer for 36 months. 

[Bazzas right boot]

4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

2027 mate, signed this summer for 36 months. 

 

[RustyRightPeg]

I’m excited. 
 

Expecting this system to throw up a few curveballs and eyebrow raising players, perhaps even from within our league. 

[tcjambo]

6 hours ago, Forrest said:

I don't think we're going to have long-term players, whether they replace Shankland or play elsewhere. The whole point of the system is that they play well, we sell them on for a profit, and we already have the replacement in the ranks waiting to come in, hit the ground running, and make us more money further down the line. And repeat. 

We still need continuity like Kingsley or Gordon. We don't want to end up soulless like the Hobos.

[tcjambo]

2 hours ago, Fraggle said:

I'd be trying to get them loaned out in January for the remainder of their contracts (admittedly easier said than done. Try and get some of their wages off our bill. I reckon Boyce could end up at Ross County in January, Salazars loan cancelled, Halket loaned off back to Livi.

Halkett is too good for Livi. Just needs a run. Grant could do a turn for St J and Boyce at Raith but we would need to pick up the wage disparity. McKay would attract air of interest too IMO.