Current Events Not Worthy of Their Own Threads

[Ked]

1 hour ago, XB52 said:

None of us know yet what happened before the newly released video but it looks pretty clear that at least 2 guys will be spending some time in jail and 1 policeman will be, at the very least, be looking for a new job

Do you regret saying that anyone backing the police were fans of Tommy Robinson?

[Victorian]

I think anything that happened prior to the new video is completely irrelevent.  There is no excuse or justification for attacking the police.  In any way at all but especially to such a degree.  The thugs should face the full force of the law.  Entirely separate and not mitigated by the actions of the police.

 

Again,  entirely separately,  there is the actions of the police.  There is no excuse or justification for booting and stamping the head of a prisoner in such a controlled and vulnerable position.  That officer has to be sacked and may well end in prison himself.

 

The two matters are entirely self contained.  Any attempts to conflate the two are ridiculous.

[Mikey1874]

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Helping women get driving licenses in India so they can transport people to and from the airports, tours in the Galapagos must employ local people with only limited permits for tourism companies, getting people to visit in quieter seasons are some of the projects Planetterra Adentures does.

 

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[indianajones]

Guy was in fight or flight mode after getting sucker punched and seeing two of his female colleagues get smacked about. 

 

He'll regret it but adrenaline does funny things to the body. 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

24 minutes ago, indianajones said:

Guy was in fight or flight mode after getting sucker punched and seeing two of his female colleagues get smacked about. 

 

He'll regret it but adrenaline does funny things to the body. 

 

 

This 

[FWJ]

A police officer had their nose broken.  That the police officer was female is (or at least should be ) irrelevant. Assaulting a police officer is serious stuff.

 

Also - why were the blokes approached by the police in the first place?

[Victorian]

54 minutes ago, indianajones said:

Guy was in fight or flight mode after getting sucker punched and seeing two of his female colleagues get smacked about. 

 

He'll regret it but adrenaline does funny things to the body. 

 

 

 

Of course.  Most people would completely sympathise with him.  But the job and the public confidence in policing will inevitably demand he's for the high jump.  Terrible sequence of events for him of course.  Another inevitability will be another terrible consequence for him.  A police officer (ex) in nick.  

[Mikey1874]

7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Of course.  Most people would completely sympathise with him.  But the job and the public confidence in policing will inevitably demand he's for the high jump.  Terrible sequence of events for him of course.  Another inevitability will be another terrible consequence for him.  A police officer (ex) in nick.  

 

He won't go to jail. It will be a first offence and the situation is in his favour. Will need to find a new job though.

 

In (un)related news Tommy Robinson has been arrested on terrorism charges.

 

https://x.com/TruthHertz623/status/1817547018740347228?t=oEvfuWpkmVvxssNHQuyuOg&s=19

[Mikey1874]

7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Of course.  Most people would completely sympathise with him.  But the job and the public confidence in policing will inevitably demand he's for the high jump.  Terrible sequence of events for him of course.  Another inevitability will be another terrible consequence for him.  A police officer (ex) in nick.  

 

He won't go to jail. It will be a first offence and the situation is in his favour. Will need to find a new job though.

 

In (un)related news Tommy Robinson has been arrested on terrorism charges. 

 

https://x.com/TruthHertz623/status/1817547018740347228?t=oEvfuWpkmVvxssNHQuyuOg&s=19

[JudyJudyJudy]

32 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

He won't go to jail. It will be a first offence and the situation is in his favour. Will need to find a new job though.

 

In (un)related news Tommy Robinson has been arrested on terrorism charges. 

 

https://x.com/TruthHertz623/status/1817547018740347228?t=oEvfuWpkmVvxssNHQuyuOg&s=19

Yep he wont go to jail. . 

Edited July 28, 2024 by JudyJudyJudy

[spirt of 98]

2 hours ago, Victorian said:

I think anything that happened prior to the new video is completely irrelevent.  There is no excuse or justification for attacking the police.  In any way at all but especially to such a degree.  The thugs should face the full force of the law.  Entirely separate and not mitigated by the actions of the police.

 

Again,  entirely separately,  there is the actions of the police.  There is no excuse or justification for booting and stamping the head of a prisoner in such a controlled and vulnerable position.  That officer has to be sacked and may well end in prison himself.

 

The two matters are entirely self contained.  Any attempts to conflate the two are ridiculous.

I agree with your first point. The two males assaulting the police should be dealt with the full force of the law.

 

When I saw the first video out of context I thought that the police were over the top.

 

However looking at the full video. 
 

You have two males who have just assaulted officers who are carrying firearms. Two of these officers appear to be female and look like they are being over powered by the males. The male officer takes a pounding. I can imagine at one point he thought he and his colleagues were going to be over powered and he had went full tilt to protect his life. 
 

Did you see the wee ginger lassie she looked absolutely ghosted. The other girl at least got stuck in. 
 

Can I suggest (without being called woke) that this would never have started if it was three male officers. This strikes me as similar to Trumps Secret Service females not being up to the job. This has placed the one male officers in this situation. 
 

How would you react if you were fighting for your life. Let’s face it if those men over powered the officer how does he know they wouldn’t have take his gun.

 

Don’t judge a man till youve walked a mile in his shoes. 

[Dick Dastardly]

22 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

 

Don’t judge a man till youve walked a mile in his shoes. 

Then you're a mile away and you have his shoes

[Victorian]

18 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

I agree with your first point. The two males assaulting the police should be dealt with the full force of the law.

 

When I saw the first video out of context I thought that the police were over the top.

 

However looking at the full video. 
 

You have two males who have just assaulted officers who are carrying firearms. Two of these officers appear to be female and look like they are being over powered by the males. The male officer takes a pounding. I can imagine at one point he thought he and his colleagues were going to be over powered and he had went full tilt to protect his life. 
 

Did you see the wee ginger lassie she looked absolutely ghosted. The other girl at least got stuck in. 
 

Can I suggest (without being called woke) that this would never have started if it was three male officers. This strikes me as similar to Trumps Secret Service females not being up to the job. This has placed the one male officers in this situation. 
 

How would you react if you were fighting for your life. Let’s face it if those men over powered the officer how does he know they wouldn’t have take his gun.

 

Don’t judge a man till youve walked a mile in his shoes. 

 

Nothing mitigates the boot and stamp.  The boy was already flat out on the floor and under control.  

 

The stress of the situation has got to the guy but it wont aid his defence.  The counter-argument to that excuse would be that policing can never be put at risk by officers becoming so stressed by a situation that they do that.  It's not that inconceivable that he could have killed the boy.

[il Duce McTarkin]

10 hours ago, Generic Username said:

 

I'm not sure where in my post there was anything alluding to people being allowed/not allowed to sympathise with either party but you crack on. 

 

In the context of the 4 posts leading up to yours, I thought it pertinent to point the fact out.

 

2 hours ago, Victorian said:

I think anything that happened prior to the new video is completely irrelevent.  There is no excuse or justification for attacking the police.  In any way at all but especially to such a degree.  The thugs should face the full force of the law.  Entirely separate and not mitigated by the actions of the police.

 

Again,  entirely separately,  there is the actions of the police.  There is no excuse or justification for booting and stamping the head of a prisoner in such a controlled and vulnerable position.  That officer has to be sacked and may well end in prison himself.

 

 

Spot on.

 

2 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

The two matters are entirely self contained.  Any attempts to conflate the two are ridiculous.

 

In the eyes of the law they should be entirely self contained, and I'm certain that they will be, but in the real-world of cause and effect they are anything but. Any conflation of the two matters by people who may sympathise with the unprofessional and overly-emotional response of the police officer are not ridiculous. His actions were not entirely irrational in a human context, and were quite possibly involuntary and instinctive. He'll lose his job, and rightly so, as we need to expect better of officers in his position.

[spirt of 98]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

 

Nothing mitigates the boot and stamp.  The boy was already flat out on the floor and under control.  

 

The stress of the situation has got to the guy but it wont aid his defence.  The counter-argument to that excuse would be that policing can never be put at risk by officers becoming so stressed by a situation that they do that.  It's not that inconceivable that he could have killed the boy.

Sorry you’re wrong. Have you ever been in a situation like that? Thought not! 

[Victorian]

7 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

Sorry you’re wrong. Have you ever been in a situation like that? Thought not! 

 

 

Nah mate,  you're right.  I've never been in a situation where I've booted a guy in the face and stamped on his head while he was flat out on the ground.  I shouldn't have presumed to be capable of forming an opinion.

 

 

 

[Felix Lighter]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

 

Nothing mitigates the boot and stamp.  The boy was already flat out on the floor and under control.  

 

The stress of the situation has got to the guy but it wont aid his defence.  The counter-argument to that excuse would be that policing can never be put at risk by officers becoming so stressed by a situation that they do that.  It's not that inconceivable that he could have killed the boy.

 

At the moment of the head kick he is NOT under control, neither of the assailants were at that moment. If that was me I'd be making damn sure that the two thugs who, moments before were raining punches on myself and my female colleagues, aren't getting back on their feet until hand cuffed, ie under control. 

Oh and btw he's not a boy he's an adult male who conceivably could have killed those officers.

[Victorian]

The word "boy" is a colloquialism for a male person.  

 

And you're just not permitted to boot someone in the face or stamp on their head for the purpose of achieving control,  or more control,  of a person.  The overall incident wasn't under full control but that one guy was lying flat on his front.  That cannot be denied.

 

I've already recognised that the police officer was undoubtedly influenced by the extreme situation.  I hope he doesn't go to jail personally.  What I said is that he might.  

 

You would need to ask a police professional as to what that officer should have done at that moment.  But anyone suggesting that the answer is a boot to the face and a stamp on the head is deluded.

 

I wish the officer all the best because he was placed in a very challenging situation.

[Taffin]

I'm sticking to my guns on this.

 

Think it was always pretty obvious a fight had gone down given we knew there were injured police.

 

I still think kicking the guy in the head once incapacitated is bang out of order. Add to that the treatment of the old lady, the employer and I'd still still reckon there's a healthy dose of racism on show.

 

Still also absolutely laughable that a bunch of armed police lost control of that situation and took a licking off a couple of random guys.

[Felix Lighter]

9 minutes ago, Victorian said:

The word "boy" is a colloquialism for a male person.  

 

And you're just not permitted to boot someone in the face or stamp on their head for the purpose of achieving control,  or more control,  of a person.  The overall incident wasn't under full control but that one guy was lying flat on his front.  That cannot be denied.

 

I've already recognised that the police officer was undoubtedly influenced by the extreme situation.  I hope he doesn't go to jail personally.  What I said is that he might.  

 

You would need to ask a police professional as to what that officer should have done at that moment.  But anyone suggesting that the answer is a boot to the face and a stamp on the head is deluded.

 

I wish the officer all the best because he was placed in a very challenging situation.

 

They're armed police officers, they are permitted to kill if the threat warrants it. So yes they are indeed permitted to use the required force to bring a situation under control, and I'll say it again at the moment of the head kick neither of the assailants were under control.

 

[Taffin]

4 hours ago, Victorian said:

I think anything that happened prior to the new video is completely irrelevent.  There is no excuse or justification for attacking the police. 

 

 

 

Why, out of interest? I'd argue there's no justification to attack anyone personally; but if I was pushed to make an exception, those who work for a racist organisation who've also been part of some absolutely horrifying crimes in recent years probably wouldn't be high on my list to protect.

 

4 hours ago, Victorian said:

In any way at all but especially to such a degree.  The thugs should face the full force of the law.  Entirely separate and not mitigated by the actions of the police.

 

Again,  entirely separately,  there is the actions of the police.  There is no excuse or justification for booting and stamping the head of a prisoner in such a controlled and vulnerable position.  That officer has to be sacked and may well end in prison himself.

 

The two matters are entirely self contained.  Any attempts to conflate the two are ridiculous.

 

[Victorian]

Just now, Felix Lighter said:

 

They're armed police officers, they are permitted to kill if the threat warrants it. So yes they are indeed permitted to use the required force to bring a situation under control, and I'll say it again at the moment of the head kick neither of the assailants were under control.

 

 

The guy was lying flat on his front.  People can argue about the definition of under control but it's there for everyone to see.  Flat out,  face down,  on the floor.

 

My opinion,  and it's only an opinion because only the police professionals can confirm or deny,  is that the taser should have been used,  if they deemed it necessary to use force.

 

I very much doubt their protocols provide for face booting and head stamping.

[XB52]

4 hours ago, Ked said:

Do you regret saying that anyone backing the police were fans of Tommy Robinson?

Never said it so no. 

[Felix Lighter]

2 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

The guy was lying flat on his front.  People can argue about the definition of under control but it's there for everyone to see.  Flat out,  face down,  on the floor.

 

My opinion,  and it's only an opinion because only the police professionals can confirm or deny,  is that the taser should have been used,  if they deemed it necessary to use force.

 

I very much doubt their protocols provide for face booting and head stamping.

 

He still has the brother to deal with though. Dealing with the brother means his back is vulnerable to the tased guy who isn't cuffed. He'd already been set upon from behind and sucker punched by the tased guy. Again, if that was me, there is no way he's possibly getting back up to threaten myself or my dazed colleagues. You said they're not permitted to do that, if my superiors didn't have my back in a similar situation I'd be telling them to shove it, bugger doing such a dangerous job with one hand tied behind my back. 

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Felix Lighter said:

 

He still has the brother to deal with though. Dealing with the brother means his back is vulnerable to the tased guy who isn't cuffed. He'd already been set upon from behind and sucker punched by the tased guy. Again, if that was me, there is no way he's possibly getting back up to threaten myself or my dazed colleagues. You said they're not permitted to do that, if my superiors didn't have my back in a similar situation I'd be telling them to shove it, bugger doing such a dangerous job with one hand tied behind my back. 

 

Very challenging situation.  No doubt about it.

[Ked]

Rose Street is a good place this evening.

Some beautiful women about.

Awwww.

 

[Generic Username]

Didn't think this would take a turn into a "Ked is horny" thread but here we are. 

[Sooperstar]

8 hours ago, Armageddon said:

The police should be applauded for having to deal with that, feckin’ animals, in many other countries they’d have been shot.

Is that where we are setting the bar?

 

Interesting to see that the KB free thinkers are all in for police brutality.

[Sooperstar]

1 hour ago, Generic Username said:

Didn't think this would take a turn into a "Ked is horny" thread but here we are. 

Worthy of its own thread? Probably.

[il Duce McTarkin]

We need more police brutality imo

[Armageddon]

48 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

Is that where we are setting the bar?

 

Interesting to see that the KB free thinkers are all in for police brutality.

Absolutely where appropriate.

 

The family had already been fighting on the plane and then at the baggage collection, hence why the police were there, a number of people had been assaulted.

 

**** about and find out as they say.

[Ked]

24 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

We need more police brutality imo

For idiots like this lot certainly.

 

 

There seems to be a prevailing attitude of its all the polices fault why are they not protecting us.

Pakistani British are a nightmare .

Attitude wise integration wise.

Increasingly English cities are governed by sensitivity and not law.

 

Sorry but true imo

 

 

[Sooperstar]

33 minutes ago, Ked said:

For idiots like this lot certainly.

 

 

There seems to be a prevailing attitude of its all the polices fault why are they not protecting us.

Pakistani British are a nightmare .

Attitude wise integration wise.

Increasingly English cities are governed by sensitivity and not law.

 

Sorry but true imo

 

 

Ooft.

[il Duce McTarkin]

1 hour ago, Ked said:

 

There seems to be a prevailing attitude of its all the polices fault why are they not protecting us.

Pakistani British are a nightmare .

 

 

Young men who think that they are untouchable are a nightmare across the board.

This absolutely includes a section of British Pakistani men, and I assume that your beef lies in the 'why' they think that they're untouchable, and not in the fact that they're British Pakistani per-se. Correct?

The police, Government, society in general, all need to tread a fine and constantly shifting line. Sensitivities and senses of injustice around perceived special treatment either provided to, or meted out upon various ethnic or socio-economic groups will always be a potential flashpoint.

There is a vile, ugly, arrogance that swaggers alongside folk like these thugs, but we need to recognise it for what it is and be careful not to superimpose our own in-built prejudice onto them as a gut reaction to our natural revulsion. An othering or them-and-us mindset is human nature, part of our primitive survival instinct, and completely understandable, but arseholes are arseholes because they're arseholes, not because they are British Pakistani.

 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by il Duce McTarkin

[Ribble]

17 hours ago, indianajones said:

Guy was in fight or flight mode after getting sucker punched and seeing two of his female colleagues get smacked about. 

 

He'll regret it but adrenaline does funny things to the body. 

 

 

If our police force doesn’t train firearms officers to deal with adrenal stress then there is something very wrong.

We are not talking about your average Joe in the street reacting after being attacked, they are supposed to be highly trained firearms officers, trained to a much higher level than a regular beat cop and able to remain calm at all times.

[MR INCREDIBLE]

16 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

He won't go to jail. It will be a first offence and the situation is in his favour. Will need to find a new job though.

 

In (un)related news Tommy Robinson has been arrested on terrorism charges.

 

https://x.com/TruthHertz623/status/1817547018740347228?t=oEvfuWpkmVvxssNHQuyuOg&s=19

Unbelievable!!!!

TR gets arrested on Terrorism charge and an inbred thug who stabs one of our armed forces seemingly has “mental health issues “

 The lefties have totally screwed this once great country!!🇬🇧

[MR INCREDIBLE]

21 minutes ago, Ribble said:

If our police force doesn’t train firearms officers to deal with adrenal stress then there is something very wrong.

We are not talking about your average Joe in the street reacting after being attacked, they are supposed to be highly trained firearms officers, trained to a much higher level than a regular beat cop and able to remain calm at all times.

The question should be if they are trained firearms officers why did they not shoot the feral scum !

[spirt of 98]

14 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

 

Nah mate,  you're right.  I've never been in a situation where I've booted a guy in the face and stamped on his head while he was flat out on the ground.  I shouldn't have presumed to be capable of forming an opinion.

 

 

 

I meant a situation where you have been violently assaulted by two people who had also assaulted two women you were with. 
 

How would you react?

 

[XB52]

37 minutes ago, MR INCREDIBLE said:

Unbelievable!!!!

TR gets arrested on Terrorism charge and an inbred thug who stabs one of our armed forces seemingly has “mental health issues “

 The lefties have totally screwed this once great country!!🇬🇧

🤪🤪

[Victorian]

58 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

I meant a situation where you have been violently assaulted by two people who had also assaulted two women you were with. 
 

How would you react?

 

 

Irrelevant.  I'm not a firearms trained and authorised police officer.

 

I actually think that direct physical violence is something that would be required and permitted in an extreme circumstance.  I think that circumstance would be if the individual was about to gain possession of a firearm or the non-lethal items carried by officers.  Or if the officer,  or other people,  were at imminent risk of being killed in the physical fight.

 

But the fact remains.  The guy was lying flat out on his front on the floor.  

 

I think a few folk have been watching too many Dirty Harry films.

 

[BlueRiver]

Rush of blood to the head which has quite rightly seen the officer subject to criminal investigation. 

 

I'm not going to act like I'd have been a calm pool of serenity but regardless of what's gone before booting apprehended suspects in the head and stamping on them can't be brushed under the carpet. 

[JimmyCant]

16 hours ago, spirt of 98 said:

Sorry you’re wrong. Have you ever been in a situation like that? Thought not! 

Police officers can’t be kicking people in the head and stamping on them mate. They get training in multiple ways to control a suspect, avoid self jnjury, plus he’s just tazed the guy to the point where he’s prostate and no threat.

 

It’s a reaction they are trained not to have, both in their mindset (heat of the moment) and their training in alternatives. Backing off until more officers arrived would have been one of those options, putting distance between you and the suspect until you can confidently control them with numbers. It would have been less than a minute of stand off 

 

However he is strongly mitigated by what went before the head kick and I can understand it, but he’ll get charged and he’ll get sacked as he should be. He won’t be going to jail. The other two suspects will be youd have thought 

[BlueRiver]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3geyvpxpeyo

 

This is quite cool

[kila]

If you let the police off with reacting to that then it leaves us on a path to them being accepted as judge, jury and executioner. I can understand his reactions given what transpired, but that encourages escalation and further conflict.

 

Anyway if that had happened to football fans, I reckon there's little chance the police officer would be investigated! They'd just pose for photos next to confiscated booze and a KO'd guy from a karate chop.

 

 

[spirt of 98]

9 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Police officers can’t be kicking people in the head and stamping on them mate. They get training in multiple ways to control a suspect, avoid self jnjury, plus he’s just tazed the guy to the point where he’s prostate and no threat.

 

It’s a reaction they are trained not to have, both in their mindset (heat of the moment) and their training in alternatives. Backing off until more officers arrived would have been one of those options, putting distance between you and the suspect until you can confidently control them with numbers. It would have been less than a minute of stand off 

 

However he is strongly mitigated by what went before the head kick and I can understand it, but he’ll get charged and he’ll get sacked as he should be. He won’t be going to jail. The other two suspects will be youd have thought 

I think you will find that Police officers can use force in proportion to the threat. They can stamp on your head if it’s justified. I think if someone assaults you to the level he and his colleagues were assaulted you could argue that there was a threat to their lives. 
 

The officer was taking no risks that the suspect could get back up.

 

I am sure he could argue that he was at that point spent and had no fight left if the suspect had got back up he felt his gun could be taken from him placing him and the public at risk. He then opted kick the suspect and stamp on him to ensure he would not get back up. Sometimes preclusion is necessary. 
 

I am sorry but it’s not a nice world and some folk get booted. If it was USA he’d have been shot. 

[redjambo]

9 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Young men who think that they are untouchable are a nightmare across the board.

This absolutely includes a section of British Pakistani men, and I assume that your beef lies in the 'why' they think that they're untouchable, and not in the fact that they're British Pakistani per-se. Correct?

The police, Government, society in general, all need to tread a fine and constantly shifting line. Sensitivities and senses of injustice around perceived special treatment either provided to, or meted out upon various ethnic or socio-economic groups will always be a potential flashpoint.

There is a vile, ugly, arrogance that swaggers alongside folk like these thugs, but we need to recognise it for what it is and be careful not to superimpose our own in-built prejudice onto them as a gut reaction to our natural revulsion. An othering or them-and-us mindset is human nature, part of our primitive survival instinct, and completely understandable, but arseholes are arseholes because they're arseholes, not because they are British Pakistani.

 

 

Il Duce hits the target again.

[spirt of 98]

19 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Irrelevant.  I'm not a firearms trained and authorised police officer.

 

I actually think that direct physical violence is something that would be required and permitted in an extreme circumstance.  I think that circumstance would be if the individual was about to gain possession of a firearm or the non-lethal items carried by officers.  Or if the officer,  or other people,  were at imminent risk of being killed in the physical fight.

 

But the fact remains.  The guy was lying flat out on his front on the floor.  

 

I think a few folk have been watching too many Dirty Harry films.

 

What if the officer was physically spent and thought of this guy gets back up I am done. Justified then.

 

Remember some of these people are drugged up and can shrug off pain as they have super strength from the Charlie. 

[JimmyCant]

12 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

I think you will find that Police officers can use force in proportion to the threat. They can stamp on your head if it’s justified. I think if someone assaults you to the level he and his colleagues were assaulted you could argue that there was a threat to their lives. 
 

The officer was taking no risks that the suspect could get back up.

 

I am sure he could argue that he was at that point spent and had no fight left if the suspect had got back up he felt his gun could be taken from him placing him and the public at risk. He then opted kick the suspect and stamp on him to ensure he would not get back up. Sometimes preclusion is necessary. 
 

I am sorry but it’s not a nice world and some folk get booted. If it was USA he’d have been shot. 

Good point and it’s almost certainly what’s going through his head “ This guy has to be knocked out” but that method of incapacitating isn’t in any training manual and he’s highly trained (or he wouldn’t be carrying a firearm.)

 

You’re right though about the US. The two of them, and possibly the female would have been shot dead, no questions asked. In fact most countries in the world seeing police officers do this wouldn’t bat an eye

 

The next thing that will happen with this case is it will be racialised, and of course it’s got nothing to do with race. I hope the cops Twitter and Insta are squeaky clean and he’s got no ‘cop banter’ on his phone 😂 

Edited July 29, 2024 by JimmyCant

[hughesie27]

19 minutes ago, spirt of 98 said:

 

I am sorry but it’s not a nice world and some folk get booted. If it was USA he’d have been shot. 

If it happened in the USA and the police officer shot the guy instead of Stamping on his head he would be getting done for murder. 

 

I assume you mean he would have been shot well before it got to the stage of being tazed flat out on the ground though. Which probably wouldn't have resulted in any further action.

[Boab]

Neds are an absolute scourge. In a plane or an airport, even more so, especially as some people’s anxiety levels are heightened. 
Sorry, but a kick in the head was the very least he deserved. 
A fight on a plane, if you’ve ever witnessed one, is terrifying if you’re not a good flyer.

mon’ the old bill.